This is a truly modern apology, and may well set the precedent for The Twitter Defense.
Former American Idol contestant David Archuleta came under media fire recently when he Tweeted the following quote from Mormon Church leader Boyd K. Packer:
Now he’s claiming he never realized the Tweets could be interpreted as antigay, and the fact that he couldn’t fit the entire thing into one message, thus isolating the “expressed between a man and a woman” phrase, gave it unintended emphasis.
Here’s the message he sent out to his fans:
How about we take this to the next level?
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I apologize if I have offended anyone with the quote I sent out Saturday. I guess I didn’t think about the line “expressed between a man and a woman in marriage” being stressed when the whole quote didn’t fit in just 1 tweet. I am sorry my intentions were misunderstood, as my main focus was that too often romance is looked at as the end-all when there is so much more. The bonds that can be there within a family and raising kids, as that is the most valuable thing I have: my family. I do hope however, that whoever may have been offended may know I respect everyone’s freedom to believe and live as they choose. I hope others can respect what I value most in my life as well. Again, I’m sorry and please forgive me if I offended you. David
And the world keeps turning.
Travis Zepp
*SPANK*
Johnathan Sawicki
Brilliant! The next time I’m offensive, I’m also going to blame Twitter’s 140 character limit!
Brandon Nielsen
It’s a biblical quote. I believe if it offended anyone, this apology should definitely suffice. If he was out to prove a point, posting the quote and then defending it would have done so. The thing is, he didn’t. He defended the basis of what real live is, which is the foundation and family, and I find it refreshing to hear him say that he respects everyone’s right to love who they choose, and didn’t make it anti gay at all with his response.
Cam
So says the unmarried 24 year old Mormon who has never had a girlfriend.
As far as being misunderstood, I might believe that if he didn’t send out that tweet right after the large Mormon National meeting where they spent nearly 50% of their time attacking LGBT’s.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/04/mormon-leaders-same-sex-marriage
Xzamilio
Oh, who cares? He clearly meant “Marriage between a man and a woman” and nothing else, and he can have that opinion… as long as he knows that we’re not limited to his narrow mindset and that the 21st century is roaring ahead, bronze age/19th century nonsense be damned.
cflekken
I think the entire tweet could be construed as anti-gay in some ways. Is love not nourished between same-sex couples?
Xzamilio
@Brandon Nielsen: That’s not a biblical quote. What chapter and verse is that from? And while I don’t really care what he said, I’ve read that apology twice… it’s about as generic as it gets and frankly, he should have just stood by what he said, because he clearly meant every word of it.
John Carr
I like how he add, “live how they CHOOSE” — Yeah, he’s not sorry for what he said… just sorry for the backlash over what he said. This has been should have kept his mouth shut. He’s just trying to get another 15 minutes of fame, and now he’s getting what he wanted. He’s a joke, and he’s been seen frequenting gay bars. He’s a perfect example of a self-loathing closet case queer. He needs to come out and shut the hell up. Loser.
Mike Lundstrom
typical LDS smuck, blame someone or something else, grow a set you pantywaist and stop blaming others
Joshua Ames
I forgot that he existed.
Cam
@Brandon Nielsen:
It was a quote from the current Mormon Apostle at their National meeting which was being held and Archuletta happened to sent out one of the quotes he used, during an anti-gay meeting. There were a thousand other quotes he could have used, but that one was specifically used during the talk where LGBT’s were called counterfeit lifestyles.
Anthony James
He didn’t apologize for what he said. He apologized for those that were offended
Robert Corvo
jUST ANOTHER BRAINWASHING VICTIM.
Jonathon Popphan
I never heard of this guy until my hubby mentioned this issue to me. It seems to me that knowing that there is a 140-character limit on Twitter posts, perhaps he could have posted it as an image instead of text.
Regardless, despite his apology his tweets were indeed homophobic. Marriage in the US is a civil contract between two adults. There is no “magic” in being an opposite-sex couple, at least not any more than there is in being a same-sex couple.
Robert Corvo
Oops, sorry about the caps. lol
MiltonandRobert Appleby
He’s not relevant.
Jim McCoy
Didn’t that dude come in 15th on Star Search or something?
Mike Nash
He can still suck my dick.
Ai-Quoc N. Heller
Dumb
Anthony Tubbs
I thought he was gay?
Aron Marks
Who??
Luis Collazo
I forgive him he’s cute!
Nate Cox
I don’t even find the tweet antigay. He only stated his personal opinion.
David Briskie
Think this was a way to get his name back out there . Even bad publicity gets his name out , just very sad
Matthew Farris
That’s not an apology.
Steven Samuels
Unfortunately , many young gay men think that disparaging ” gays ” will take the attention OFF themselves . We have all done that , before we came OUT . David is 100% , bona fide QUEER and just cannot come out .
Steven Za
I def think he gets a pass… I think this has more to do with the 72 limit on his IQ
Ethan K. Ellis
His tweet is hardly anti gay. Stating that having children nurtures that love even more isn’t anti gay. Correct me if I’m wrong but 2 men can not conceive, nor can 2 women.
Jeff Eiselman
Media whore. Needed PR. Too many who?’s!
Michael Jarboe
“So if I offended any of the blue haired, southern, little old ladies who listen to my music, I’m sorry.”
Ricky Nichols
Nice “try” now float back off into obscurity!!
Douglas Jovanny Chavez
I always thought he was gay
Masc Pride
Only thing he did wrong was apologizing. He’s entitled to what he believes, and he’s even entitled to express it on Twitter. Like Brandon already said, if he was intending to be offensive, he would be vehemently defending this quote that he simply retweeted. Much ado about nothing…again.
martinbakman
At least we know where he stands.
Steve Grand is a lot more interesting than D. Archuleta.
AtticusBennett
Archuleta is in for a rough life. This is the boy who, as a young kid, belted out Dreamgirls’ “And I am Telling You”. a cappella. the boy who when he sang “IMAGINE” on American Idol couldn’t sing the actual first verse, and began instead with “imagine no possessions…”
Brainwashed Mormon boy with a bigoted and overbearing stage father. his apology is bullshit, and his (il)Logic would be accepted only by similarly unintelligent minds – there is no “you’re entitled to your opinion and i’m entitled to mine” when the SPECIFICS of his opinion are inherently steeped in, and based around, an exclusionary and deeply prejudicial ideology.
Archuleta is, make no mistake, a closeted homosexual. And like Many many many gay mormons, he’s going to waste a great many years of his life lying, deceiving and regurgitating the LDS’s trademarked nonsense, doublespeak, and bigotry.
he has my pity – for all the joys in life he will never know.
his apology was not an apology. it’s not a mere “opinion” – it is, inherently, a bigoted and prejudicial thought he espoused.
typical of the mormons. and typical of the closeted homosexuals who are brainwashed members of that cult.
but anyone who thinks that was an “apology” ought to have their head examined.
Cam
@Masc Pride: said…
“Only thing he did wrong was apologizing. He’s entitled to what he believes, and he’s even entitled to express it on Twitter.”
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Look, could people please stop with the B.S. of “He’s not bigoted, it’s just his opinion”. or other things along that line.
Bigotry IS an opinion. This is a kid who sent out a quote, the day of the National Mormon Meeting where this exact quote was used to attack gays as having a “Counterfeit Lifestyle”.
As an unmarried, 24 year old Mormon man who has never had a girlfriend, of course little Mr. Closet Case was desperate to tweet out his agreement with it.
Defend him all you want, but please, when the leader of his church used those words, that day, to attack gays, don’t try to tell me that he just HAPPENED to blast the same quote out on Twitter with no connection.
AtticusBennett
@Cam: “masc pride” is either one of two things: a homely boring heterosexual with no life, or a homely boring homosexual closet case with no life, no balls, and a family that wishes they’d sprung for an abortion all those years ago.
he’ll never show himself, he’ll never prove his “masc”-ness, he’s a stereotypical internet troll for whom anonymity is the only thing he has to distract him from the empty worthlessness of his life. he’d love us all to think that he’s an attractive,
“masculine”, athletic openly gay man whose family and friends love and support him.
he’s literally none of those things. no internet troll ever has been, nor ever will be.
Howard Steiman
This is not how you get attention.
Masc Pride
@Cam: If he was meaning to be as malicious as you describe, why didn’t he retweet that part about the “counterfeit lifestyle”? The parts he retweeted are about building family. Latinos are usually very family-oriented.
AtticusBennett
@Masc Pride: your intellectual-dishohesty is a big part of the reason you’ll neb erbe anything more than a coward and a doormat for the rest of your life.
Greg James Estle-Scarle
duh he is a closeted Mormon
Scott Schmidt
Don’t blame Twitter for ur asinine and inflammatory comments
Sweet Boy
He looks very bottomish…I want a piece of that!
Creo que es un pasivito……yo quiero de eso!!
Saint Law
@Masc Pride: You seem to have insight in to him. Maybe you’re confusing him with you? He’s an equivocating closet-case too.
Jordan Todd
Only one way to say your sorry. Better suck a dick.
john
When playing “Hide and Seek” as a kid i thought that if I closed my eyes really tight when hiding then no one else could see me. But unbeknownst to me I was very visible and I was just simply hiding from myself!!! To David and all the others “hiding” who believe they can hide by closing there eyes or not recognizing themselves, I must tell you…We can all see you!
James Belmont
Does anyone care about David?
jjose712
Oh come on, get a little compassion on the kid. His father is a controlling jerk who needed to be stopped on American Idol to disrupting other contestants (who curiously love David), and he practically destroyed his career.
Archie is talented but he is not marketable, and no, i don’t think he wanted to offend anyone or wanted publicity, in all his time in the spotlight he never acted that way.
And i feel sorry for him, because i think he is really gay (he is mormon, he has 24 even if he looks younger and he never had a girlfriend). I only hope he won’t end marrying a random mormom girl and on another reality show like my husband is not gay.
He seems a nice guy, but with the people surrounding him i doubt he will be happy
Masc Pride
@AtticusBennett: Gays like you are worse than homophobes. You want to be so right all the time that you just end up being wrong. You think you’re a better gay than everyone else. You have the same monotonous response for anyone you disagree with. Your combative demeanor turns discussion to arguing, which is NOT how you get people to see your PoV. You’re ALWAYS chewing someone out on here. Must suck to be you!
@Saint Law: Why is it EVERY TIME Atticus starts up, you’re right behind him? And usually mimicking the same exact thing he’s yammering on about. Hmmmm…..
Cam
@john: said…
“When playing “Hide and Seek” as a kid i thought that if I closed my eyes really tight when hiding then no one else could see me. But unbeknownst to me I was very visible and I was just simply hiding from myself!!! To David and all the others “hiding” who believe they can hide by closing there eyes or not recognizing themselves, I must tell you…We can all see you!”
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What a great post!
Curty
@Masc Pride: What’s with the name “Masc pride” ??
AtticusBennett
@Masc Pride: i don’t think i’m abetter gay than everyone else. i do know that i’m a better, smarter and more proactive human being than *you*
You’re a stereotypical closeted anonymous internet troll.
“Your combative demeanor turns discussion to arguing, which is NOT how you get people to see your PoV”
check out my blogs, by clicking my name. you’ll see how many non-LGBT people i have on my side. note how you can’t say the same. nobody in your life is an outspoken pro-LGBT person. and it’s because you, as the homo in their lives, aren’t worth respecting.
doesn’t suck to be me. i’ve been openly gay since i was a teenager. so far, so awesome 😀
@Curty: he wants people to think he’s “masc”. but he’s not. there’s nothing masculine about being a cowardly wimpy anonymous internet troll.
AtticusBennett
@Masc Pride: and be real you’re not closeted and anonymous because of “mean liberal gays like me” , you’re closeted and anonymous because of anti-gay bigots like your father.
Cam
@AtticusBennett: said….
“@Masc Pride: and be real you’re not closeted and anonymous because of “mean liberal gays like me” , you’re closeted and anonymous because of anti-gay bigots like your father.”
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Done! Drops Mic, leaves stage. lol
Robert Kinzey
Then continue response in second third or more tweets.
Captain Obvious
I’m confused isn’t he an out gay male? I was pretty sure he came out and before that anyone who’s ever read his Twitter knows that boy is gay and really isn’t hiding it. His tweets are about a queenie twink and a queenie twink could get. The only thing he could do to make it more obvious that he’s gay is plaster penis shaped lollipops all over the wallpaper and make O-faces behind them.
At the same time I swear people are like little middle school girls nowadays always mad about something and getting super sensitive about the tiniest little things. It’s outrageous and annoying.
Just the other day I had people fly off the handle because I said I hoped a mental rapist(revenge porn) who raped thousands of women enjoyed getting raped in prison. In came the internet to defend the poor little rapist who someone said would be facing physical rape in prison. No sane person would care if a rapist is getting raped, but “rape is not funny!11 don’t ever post about it!11”.
Feigning outrage over everything no matter how small has become the newest most vapid trend on the internet. It’s almost up there with the idiots policing the internet trying to get people fired from their real life jobs and estranged from their real life relationships over things said on social media. How pathetic a person’s real life must be to actually want to hurt an anonymous person who hasn’t actually done anything wrong.
Even that damned pizza place didn’t hurt anyone despite their stupid message, they have a right to hold their own opinion. People are becoming more and more immature by the day, throwing their bottles, and pooping their pants over personal beliefs of random people they’ll never meet(and have no platform to make a difference).
Dan Rucks
Pluck your eyebrows runner-up queen!
Masc Pride
@Curty: I’m an openly bisexual guy that openly enjoys his masculinity and the masculinity of other like-minded individuals. What’s with the name Curty?
@AtticusBennett: aka @Saint Law: You want to believe that, but the truth is you’re more toxic to this community than every homophobe and “closet case” combined! I never called you a “mean liberal gay” so IDK why you’ve put that in quotes. You’re combative shaming/”I’m right and better than everyone else” style is actually far more radical right than lib. I don’t find you liberal at all.
Rick Caffey
To little to late
Cam
@Captain Obvious:
1. He is not out of the closet, he was just on a Mormon Mission and is a full member in good standing with the LDS church. Donating songs to the recent Mormon propaganda movie.
2. Feigning outrage? This is the church and organization that funded NOM, including their push for Prop 8 in CA. Archuletta tweeted out the exact quote that the Mormon leaders used in one of their main meetings specifically attacking gays.
So he just happens to tweet out the very quote that the Mormon apostle used in their huge National meeting during a meeting specifically attacking gays. Yeah, no coincidence there.
Jim McDonnell
Someone tell me again why we care?
Masc Pride
@Captain Obvious: “At the same time I swear people are like little middle school girls nowadays always mad about something and getting super sensitive about the tiniest little things. It’s outrageous and annoying.”
You’ve just described like 90 percent of this site! I think it’s not totally their fault though. The writers bait them into thinking any and every thing is homophobia. We want everyone to accept and like us, but we also want to believe everyone is secretly against us at the same time. I don’t get it sometimes.
@jjose712: Totally agree. He never seemed like a sh!t starter. His explanation even seems like something he actually wrote (versus the usual “I’m sorry…” written by a publicist).
Timothy Herbert
best way to get publicity, offend someone.
Luis Diaz
I thought he was a closeted gay. Guess he hasn’t realize how gay he acts. Brain washed????
Hillers
I fail to see how having a ball and chain tied to you and a coupla money-sucking rugrats around for eighteen years make one any more complete than someone who chooses to be single and has family, friends, pets, and paramours who provide love in spades.
#thanksnothanks
Nostromov
For everyone, in the world, save some unfortunate (?!) souls (hi, everyone!..:)), marriage is the sacred bond between woman and man.
Unfortunately (?), as Xzamilio mentioned, we’re in the 21st century where medical advancement allows people to sentence their children to being artificially born (while sharing the DNA) & much like prophylactic has allowed women to spread their wings and shamelessly pursue their vain goals – flipping the world on its head, almost – we must also learn how to deal with the (modern) threat of homosexuality…
However, this shouldn’t have to include apologizing for one’s opinion(s); & like Jeff ^^ said, taking every opportunity to become a “Media whore”. We have a long road ahead of us, still, for example – removing the made-up term “homophobe”, from our dictionaries; which will, in turn, allow for some sort of acceptance to become more common-place (as, currently, the separation is real and defined); heh. =)
Pablito Belanger
I’ll blame my short attention span for not paying attention to his irrelevance.
Curty
@Masc Pride: Do you have a problem with more flamboyant males or think you’re better because you think you are “masc”? My name is Curtis but many call me curt or curty.
Curty
I feel like David is gay but his religious upbringing will not allow him to accept himself. I could be wrong maybe he is void of sexuality period. I think he knew his tweet would gain him attention and that’s why he typed it. I thought he was a good singer on American idol, but his fanbase was annoying.
nature boy
Sorry David, the apology doesn’t cut it. You need to think some more about the implications of what you tweeted.
By the way, I am 99% sure you are a gay man yourself. But, I think you have not yet accepted to yourself that you are gay. You are still thinking “it is a phase” and “I can change if I try hard enough” and “I just haven’t met the right girl yet.”
I did all that also, until I fell in love with a man at age 22 and realized I had to deal with that and accept being gay. I told myself I’d just accept being gay for a day…. guess what? 27 years later I’m still gay !
Yes, kids and families can be a beautiful thing, but there are all kinds of families. Heterosexuality doesn’t make a family beautiful. There are some very ugly heterosexual families and there are some very beautiful LGBT families too. Love, honesty, tolerance, and support make a family beautiful.
You could have a beautiful family yourself. “Coming out” to yourself is the first step ….which I think you haven’t really done yet. Your church has made it a lot harder for you but you can do it. There are other churches that will welcome and celebrate you as you your honest self, as God made you.
Find one and find your true self and start making music again.
Merv
No offense to Mr. Archuleta, but his celebrity status doesn’t seem to rise to the level that would merit spilling any digital ink. I care about what he thinks about marriage just enough to say that I don’t care what he thinks about marriage.
Dan Steele
He can’t have an opinion of his own?
Julian Rogers
Horses**t!! He said what he meant! Just another reason that twitter is crap anyway. Nothing of substance or value can be adequately said in 140 characters…..it just allows people to pop-off and take no responsibility!
Tommy Parlon
Who?
Tony Stokes
Eh, it’s still a problematic quote. Not all children “spring” from marital unions, let alone loving unions. Not all people need marriage and/or children to be complete in love. I don’t believe Archuleta meant to sound as divisive as he did, but the original quote certainly intended a specific pie in the sky conclusion.
Xzamilio
@AtticusBennett: Oh, goddammit, I agree with you so hard. I am so glad that somebody else can spit on and point out that stupid fallacious retort of “opinion entitlement”. As if saying “I’m entitled to my opinion and you yours” is an actual comeback, when truthfully it’s a red herring. It’s not the entitlement to the opinion that matters, but rather the opinion itself. That’s why didn’t care what he had to say in his initial tweet but the non-apology he put out was just pathetic.
Xzamilio
@Masc Pride: Non sequitur. Who said he wasn’t entitled to express his views? No one… so why bring that up. What people — not me — are taking issue with is what he said, and while I don’t think he intended for it to be anti-gay, it’s easy to come to that conclusion. And I actually agree with you that he shouldn’t have apologized, but only because it was a condescending non-apology and it was apparent he meant every word he said… at least stand by it without sidestepping.
Eloweez Rainbowz
I don’t know who this is. And don’t care
Bauhaus
@Masc Pride:
Irrespective of what the little twat said, it must be awfully painful to get tag-teamed by @Cam: and @AtticusBennett:. A little pummel by @Saint Law:, is the icing… Geez, you don’t know when to run away with your tail between your legs.
Arcamenel
We all know what he meant and of course his apology was a crappy one but I can’t help but feel bad for him. He’s obviously gay but his mormon upbringing and maybe an overbearing father are to blame for him not being able to come to terms with it. I was hoping that after american idol he would have been able to get signed and maybe shed the stage father which would have allowed him a chance to really find himself but it seems that hasn’t happened.
I’m hurt by what he said but I’m going to give him a pass because it’s not THAT bad when you think about all the stuff said about us. I hope he eventually comes to terms with who he is and leaves that dreaded cult.
Ricky Cavazos
He needs to stick to something else because he’s not a good backpeddler and he’s definitely not a good writer.
dhmonarch89
well- I’m offended yet another person has told me the be all/end all is having kids- I CAN’T STAND KIDS AND I SURE AS SHIT DON’T WANT ANY!!!!!!!
onthemark
@dhmonarch89: @Hillers:
Rugrats spring up and splash around in the Fountain of LOVE!
(Of course, they piss in there too when you’re not looking.)
MiltonandRobert Appleby
Why do we need an apology?
onthemark
@Arcamenel:
“David Archuleta Apologizes For Seeming Antigay”
“David Archuleta Apologizes For Seeming Gay”
Now taking bets on when we’ll see the second headline!
Dave Martinez
Who?
Rommel Salas
Hey Roger Morrison, looks like your boy is a homophobe. 🙁
AtticusBennett
@Xzamilio: he meant exactly what he wrote. that only heterosexual “relationships” are to be approved. and he said it because he needs to convince his daddy and his cult that he’s not one of us.
and he is one of us. and he always will be. whether he likes it or not, or admits it or not.
Jimmy Lee
Fuck this little bitch.
Masc Pride
@Curty: Did I ever say that? No. Jumping to such conclusions says way more about your own insecurities. Do you have a problem with the name Curtis?
@Xzamilio: You’re using “non sequitur” wrong, and it’s your opinion that his explanation was a “condescending non-apology”. I don’t think he’s sidestepping at all.
@Bauhaus: Those three (arguably two) hypersensitive losers aren’t hurting anything but their blood pressure. What’s painful is seeing a bunch of adult men so worked up over what some 24 y/o retweeted!
Robert Becker
Just remember… although David may not personally have anti-gay feelings, he has been subjected to a lifetime of anti-gay preaching in his church. The Mormon church was The major source of finances for Prop 8 in California which took marriage away from gay couples. Hopefully, David will understand that he is free to live his own truth… and not the
“Truth” pushed on him by the LDS church.
Curty
@Masc Pride: I was just wondering why the need for masc pride name. Would you have done the same for fem pride? Why is there need to be proud to be so called masc, especially since you said you’re openly gay? Just trying to see where you’re coming from… and no I’m very secure that I don’t have to try to label or prove myself to be so “masc” unlike yourself.
AJ Sarabia
Who?
Rocco Scutaro
Shut the fuck up you closet case
AlliterationAddict
I thought that he WAS gay. And I’m not trying to be snarky, I honestly thought that he was gay and out.
Masc Pride
@Curty: Actually, I said openly bi. Sure, I don’t see an issue with Fem Pride if that’s what you want to go by. Should bi and gay men who aren’t fem be ashamed of their masculinity? You don’t seem as offended by the term fem as you do by masc; why is that? Seems like a rather hypocritical and homophobic logic. You see masc as an automatic slight against fems, and that doesn’t sound very secure at all. In fact, it’s rather paranoid!
Manny Yoko
…. is he str8 ??
Jack Peacock
Closet case much?
AtticusBennett
@Masc Pride: does this trolling impress your dad? i mean, it’s obvious his rejection of you has messed you up royally.
@Curty: he’s trolling. he wants people to think he’s “masc” – but….how would we know? he’s an anonymous wimp, with insecurity issues stemming from having a shi**y homophobic father.
i mean, he could always show himself and show us all how “masc” he is, but then his cover would be blown – he’s not “masc” , he’s just homely, closeted, very likely out of shape, and probably a total townie with bad teeth.
trolls like him count on their fake-anonymous internet lives as an escape from their realities.
Luis Enrique Perez
Oh who cares? His opinion couldn’t matter any less in the big scheme of things. He is nobody.
JR Dios Martinez
Another gay bashing gays ??? Must be a republican in the closet
Charles Jenkins
It’s his opinion. Don’t buy his music if you disagree. Simple.
Xzamilio
@AtticusBennett: Yup. And that’s why that “apology” was pointless, as he wasn’t apologizing for anything he said. Just “Sorry you were offended”… and yeah, I wasn’t going to say anything about his sexuality. It was just one of those “I’m not saying he’s gay, but if someone else did, I’d have to agree” 🙂
@Masc Pride: You’re right. What I meant was red herring as you’re talking about his opinion entitlement as if it matters and as if that is even relevant. It’s not. It’s the opinion that matters. And it’s not my opinion that he put out a condescending non-apology. It’s the fact that he doesn’t actually apologize for anything he said in his tweets and rather just if they offended anyone… why bother even apologizing then? That’s why I agree with you that he shouldn’t have apologized because it doesn’t change anything. Plus this conversation is more interesting than him, so… yeah.
Richard Mailman
Whatever.
Jeff Bowlin
If you have a 140 text limit and cant get your point across…..then dont post it!!!!!!! Hello?!!???!
AtticusBennett
@Xzamilio: it’s the same non-logic when conservatives say “this law isn’t anti-gay, because straight people can’t marry members of the same-sex, either!”
the conservative right are the masters of evasion and spin: “defense of marriage act” = bans people from marrying. “citizen united” = rich white-owned corporations taking money from citizens. “pro-life” = ant-choice. “pro-traditional marriage” = anti-LGBT equality.
only people as stupid as “masc pride”, who we all know will die in the closet he’s currently wasting his life in, fall for it.
Hunter Sutherby
I told him he should just come out of the closet and i was blocked. Who knew someone actually reads those comments.
socaliscorpio
“live as they choose”, David? It’s not a choice.
Xzamilio
@AtticusBennett: I know, right? Isn’t it “funny” — not really — how whenever they’re “taking a stand” for something, it usually involves denying rights or taking rights away from one group or another?
David J. Carroll
just so disappointed.
NoCagada
He and Nicky Jonas would make a cute couple…oooooops…two bottoms…
Bauhaus
@Xzamilio:
“whenever they’re “taking a stand” for something, it usually involves denying rights or taking rights away from one group or another?”
Yep. They try to take away money, too (power). They also: humiliate, penalize, pit one group against another, ostracize, and criticize. By doing so, they create dissension and fear. Fear mongering is their bread and butter. It’s the perfect distraction mechanism and allows them to run roughshod economically over the masses.
Bauhaus
@Charles Jenkins:
Or, take him to task. If the little twit can’t take the backlash, he’ll stop spouting that garbage.
Damon Robbins
Who really cares about the media seeking has been!
Ricco Mashatt
Well said. He meant what he said. Why take it back. Maybe he agent or mom told him too just like other comments celebrity makes.
Victor Barry
Not an issue.
Xzamilio
@Bauhaus: It never ceases to amaze me how the majority of the public sees eye to eye on many issues, i.e. gay marriage, affordable healthcare, raising of the minimum wage, reproductive health services for women, and yet these buffoons continue voting in these GOP lunatics that are only for the 1%, pissing on everyone else.
DavidIntl
I have always been quite certain that Archuleta is gay. But the social/religious environment he lives in has to make his life very difficult indeed.
Giancarlo85
And who is this guy? He’s fallen off the map quite some time ago. I didn’t even realize he was relevant anymore.
Curty
@Masc Pride: You have real insecurity issues if you have some “masc” adjective in your screen name. I’ve met a lot of people like you, thinking they Somehow better or will be more accepted by heterosexuals and people at large. Your defensiveness shows how insecure you are. Btw, what is masc to you?
Curty
@AtticusBennett: I’m starting to believe that. His name certainly is telling the World he is masc and you better know it. Because masc is what a real man is and he wants everyone to know that.
Giancarlo85
@Masc Pride: Actually gay feminine men are not constantly trying to impress heterosexuals like you are. Gay feminine men are just being themselves and not putting on a fake front like you.
Giancarlo85
@Masc Pride: Funny how when someone claims they “enjoy their masculinity”, they typically have very little masculinity to begin with. And very little confidence. You sit here and question others… what gives you the right to do that? Do you consider yourself superior to other gay men who question your obvious lack of integrity?
Mike Nash
David please suck my dick. Again.
Masc Pride
@Giancarlo85: Which heteros am I trying to impress and how? I’ve never met you and you know nothing about me. Again, very interesting how you defend identifying as fem but trash and question anyone that identifies masc. Says so much about what the real issue is with your ilk.
@Curty: Okay, so you admit you’re judging me by your past experiences with other guys and without knowing anything about me. I believe that’s what they call stereotyping. You seem very jaded.
Scott Deer
Who?
Masc Pride
@Xzamilio: It is your opinion because that’s how you interpreted his statement. You don’t know what the intention was because you didn’t write it. If someone has misunderstood your intentions, wouldn’t you would explain to make things clearer? An outright apology would admit wrong doing. Feeling misunderstood and feeling like you intentionally did something wrong are different. This is why apologizing if anyone’s feelings were hurt makes more sense than apologizing for the actual tweet.
Sean Roy
Homo-homophobia is the worst, but sadly, all too common.
Xzamilio
@Masc Pride:
“Feeling misunderstood and feeling like you intentionally did something wrong are different. This is why apologizing if anyone’s feelings were hurt makes more sense than apologizing for the actual tweet.”
I’d agree with you if it weren’t for the fact that his subsequent statement left little doubt about where he stood on the matter, so there was no misunderstanding. Apologizing for hurting someone’s feelings while not taking into account WHY their feelings were hurt is an empty apology, as far as I’m concerned.
TemptyK
“He’s one of us”
“He’s a closeted homosexual”
STOP CLAIMING HIM. What the fuck?!
Bauhaus
@Masc Pride:
“Which heteros am I trying to impress and how?”
I’m gonna take a guess, by your carefully crafted moniker, and say all heterosexuals. Moreover, you’re tying to impress and convince yourself.
You’re just a scared, insecure little boy. You’re not a man, sugar pie.
Masc Pride
@Xzamilio: Again, “as far as I’m concerned.” denotes an opinion. I didn’t even feel like the tweet was anti-gay. It’s not like D&G’s “the only family is the traditional one”, which was a blatant denouncement. His tweet simply says physical love is nothing in comparison to a husband and wife building a family together. We’re all here by way of that very concept.
@TemptyK: It’s weird. It’s almost like they’re suggesting he’s gay as some sort of insult. I’ve noticed it’s actually a quite common comment in stories about guys who are being accused of homophobia.
@Bauhaus: “I’m gonna take a guess…” means you don’t know and can’t prove your accusations. If you have such an issue with me, why do you follow me into every story to start conversations with me? That’s just plain crazy. I NEVER initiate conversation with you.
Ely D. Trovela
Just like the one I know !!!!!
Bauhaus
@Masc Pride:
Here’s my issue with you and your drivel:
You’re a turd.
I’m not interested in conversation with you. I, and others, point out your nonsense, which makes perfect sense. That’s how it works on here, Mary. Feel free to ignore me.
Go ahead and prove my accusations wrong, sugar pie.
Masc Pride
@Bauhaus: “I’m not interested in conversation with you. I, and others, point out your nonsense, which makes perfect sense. That’s how it works on here, Mary. Feel free to ignore me.” This is a very contradictory statement. Also, you’re the one making the accusations, so the onus is on you to show and prove. How about we both ignore each other; can you do it?
Bauhaus
@Masc Pride:
Wrong. You’re the one claiming “masc pride”. Show us. The onus is on you, and you know it.
There’s nothing contradictory in what I said. I don’t want conversation, but I’ll continue to call you out, as will others with decency and sense.
Aw, you’d like to continue your silly charade unchallenged. Not a chance.
Masc Pride
@Bauhaus: You’re just too dumb to realize where the contradiction is. You don’t want conversation with me….but you follow me all over this site quoting my every comment. I think you’re likely a fat fem that’s frustrated with years of seeing “no fats, no fems” in the online profiles of the guys you desire, so you take said frustrations out on me because my name triggers all the insecurity of past rejection. Now prove me wrong!
Andrew Evans Fajardo Uy
Your idol is clearly antigay. Tsk tsk Jodolf Ryan Catong
Ty Halen
I have to say, that’s a very nice apology
Cesar Fortun
Like I give a hoot!
He’s a Mormon, why should I believe him?
John DeGregory
I believe you and forgive you.
Charlie Cannon
i thought he was gay?
Jeff Charles
David who?
Louis Nesiama
Nice one
David Conan
Who is this lmao
Raf Caruso
Rather than blame twitter ….keep the f&*k off twitter in the first place.
Giancarlo85
@Masc Pride: First you say you never met me… And yet you assume to know stuff about me? Lol. You are the one that is contradictory. And yes I know your type. You are insecure and have very little confidence. And the way you attack others on here says it all.
Terry McCarthy
Asshole .., already deleted his music
Bauhaus
@Masc Pride:
Think what you want, sugar plum. The difference between us? I don’t shrink (down there) if an internet troll calls me fem and fat. I also don’t pretend to be something I’m not.
Curty
@Masc Pride: What pride is there being so called masc? Like most people would consider me “masc” I just shrug it off saying, “I’m just being myself.” I could have used the name “masc curt” but I didn’t, why because there is no need on a site like to try to prove how “masc” I am! Do you see what I’m saying? And I find it not a coincidence that others are calling you out. Masc doesn’t mean shit to the heterosexuals you try to impress. In indiana, and other anti gay places around the world, your “masc pride” don’t mean shit. You still are a insert gay slur. Just something to think about. I bet you’re in your late 20’s to late 30’s.
Cam
If any of you have friends that were raised Mormon, you ask them just how common it is for a “Good Mormon Man” to go out on his mission, then return home, and 3 years later still not be married or have a serious girlfriend where they are engaged to be married. Those guys are so desperate to get laid that they come back and marry the first girl they meet.
So Archuletta, 24 years old, devote Mormon 3 years back from his mission, not married, no girlfriend and tweeting out quotes from an anti-gay speech given by his church’s leader?
Yeah…..not fooling anybody but your dad David.
DuMaurier
Maybe there’s something to his explanation. When I read this story on other sites, they gave the whole quote with breaking it up as they did here (and as it showed up on Twitter), and I couldn’t see what the fuss was about. But seeing the tagline isolated like it is here gives it the feel of making an aggressive, in-your-face point just about that.
Jackie Gomez-Arias Boo
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o.codone
I always had the impression that Archie was somewhat developmentally disabled. Someone above, way up there in the comments ^ said he had an IQ of 70, and while I know the person was really just being snarky, I think it may be true. Archie’s affect is slightly slow, and slightly bewildered. He speaks slowly and appears to have occasional word finding difficulties.
Xzamilio
@Masc Pride: No, we’re all here by way of sex… some of us IVF or turkey baster, but marriage plays NO role in reproduction… none. My last reply was opinion, and I intended it to be… so no need to point that out as if I didn’t know that. I don’t think his tweet was “inherently” anti-gay, just like I don’t think most people who espouse anti-gay things from their religion are themselves anti-gay. A lot of the time, they are just being loyal to their faith… their archaic, slave-condoning, genocide-commanding, tribe division demanding, backwards, inconsistent faith.
Cam
@Xzamilio:
Again, to those of you saying that the tweet wasn’t anti-gay need to put it in context.
The Mormon National Meeting was just held. The Head apostle gave a virulently anti-gay speech and that exact quote was the main quote he used to launch into calling gay lives counterfeit and talking about how gays shouldn’t have rights.
It isn’t a coincidence that Archletta, a devote Mormon happens to tweet out the very words that were the opening salvo in an anti-gay speech given at the LDS National Meeting.
Todd Hamilton
David Who ?
James Belmont
He’s only sorry that he was caught.
Masc Pride
@Xzamilio: That’s also a matter of opinion. Most people believe in being married BEFORE starting a family. Marriage aside, we’re still all here by way of a male-female relationship of some sort, and that won’t change. I agree with you on the religion part, except that last part was a little unnecessary.
@Curty: “And I find it not a coincidence that others are calling you out.” Don’t mean to kill your boner, but it’s the same guys whining about the same things EVERY TIME! You’ll find the same few collectively menstruating over someone’s comment in every story. You’re issues are shooting out like diarrhea. You’re already admitted you’re basing your criticisms on other guys that aren’t me. You need therapy. You’re clearly hurting.
Masc Pride
@Bauhaus: That doesn’t even make sense. Though I love how consistently use effeminacy as a slight against me. Nothing like defending people by using their existence as an insult! You’ve got to be one of the dumbest queerdos here, and that’s saying A LOT.
@Giancarlo85: What am I assuming to know about you? And quote it directly, NOT your convoluted interpretation of what I actually said. As far “attacking” others, I’ve responded to everyone in the same manner they used to address me. So by your own logic, you guys are the insecure ones, and it totally shows because both you and Curty have used the word superiority in reference to “masc”. It’s all coming out now! 🙂
nature boy
From David Archuleta’s personal blog http://davidarchuleta.com/home/?p=6239 .
“I was always having to put myself out there because everyone was hounding me to do it. It was very unnatural for me to do it, because I have come to realize that I’m a very introverted person. Constantly forcing myself to be talkative, animated, on the camera, etc. for the sake of all of you getting to know me only pushed me into a corner of letting all of you get to know someone who wasn’t even myself. It has really bothered me over the years.”
“Nevermind what I think of myself and what is going on in my life! I am too busy worrying about what everyone else thinks of me!” I feel my brain was telling myself. These same thoughts have gone through my mind throughout all of my life. Lately I have gotten so sick of them that I decided to try and shut the voices of others off, including the ones that got stuck inside my mind. The best solution I had for this was to stop looking at everything on social media. I cannot focus on very many things at once. When I am worried about what everyone else is telling me to do, or comparing myself to what other people are showing on twitter, Instagram, and other sites I cannot focus on what my own feelings are, or what that still, small voice within is trying to tell you.”
“It has been refreshing to get more of my own stories out through lyrics, or even with melodies. I am discovering that the only way to get this music out is to get rid of all of the other voices from my head. When I have all of the other voices going through my mind, whatever is coming out feels superficial, dead, and empty.”
“I am still trying to unravel all of the knots that have been in my brain. I was so overwhelmed last time I was in the spotlight in front of all of you. I felt like I lost myself as I got caught up in trying to please everyone, because I disregarded what I cared about–what I thought. It’s nice not having to keep trying to figure out how be something that I am not so that everyone will like whatever that is. I have come to realize that no matter what you will never make everybody happy, but you can make the most lasting impact on being yourself, and most of all out of all the people it will impact you are the one who is most impacted for the better. For the longest time, I tried to keep it on the down-low of who and how I really was because “I must not be likeable”, but it feels nice to just be who I am and live according to what has always been most important to me.”
lyrics from his new song from his “most personal album yet”… “when something’s wrong and too much too handle, try to find some peace of mind, let it go, wait a minute you know this road, it’s going to leave you on overload, cause somebody cares, I can see you hurting too, I will be right there, don’t run away… open up, let it all out tonight, everything will be alright, don’t run away, don’t run away, don’t run away ”
I actually feel really bad for him. Feels like a classic “best little boy in the world” syndrome. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/opinion/the-best-little-boy-in-the-world-thats-me.html?_r=0
David, IT GETS BETTER !
Curty
@Masc Pride: Hurting from what? That you are so insecure about yourself that you have a fake name, a fake persona, a fake image that you have tried to present to potentially millions of people. I think you’re the one that is hurting. You always take the pro heterosexual stances and knock “fem” culture of some gay men. You’re a poser.
Masc Pride
@Curty: What the hell are you talking about?? We’ve never even spoken before this story. Please quote me on all these supposed hetero stances and fem insults. Time for you bitter biddies to put up or shut up!
Giancarlo85
@Masc Pride: We aren’t the ones proclaiming “masc pride” or “fem pride”. I am just me. I am feminine androgynous, but I don’t wear that on my shoulder like you wear your phony “masc pride”. You’re a fake.
Masc Pride
@Giancarlo85: You don’t have fem pride because you’re insecure in your effeminacy. You automatically jumped to the conclusion that I think I’m superior; that’s your subconscious and your fem inferiority complex showing through. I’m not the one who’s obsessed with how you guys identify. What kind of person does that? A person who is obviously unhappy. You just want to drag other guys down to struggle with you.
Curty
@Masc Pride: No your obsession is trying to prove to yourself and everyone here on how “masc”you are. And yes you have attack fems on this thread and other threads I’ve read. We are calling your ass out.
Soulforce1
@Nate Cox: Duh…a personal opinion can be anti-gay.
Masc Pride
@Curty: You’re not calling me out. You’re simply using me as a scapegoat to vent your frustrations with society. You can’t prove anything you say. I said QUOTE all these supposed attacks on fems with links, or just STFU. Should’ve been very simple on this site where I’ve put everything in writing, but you’ve predictably chosen to decline. 🙂
Giancarlo85
@Masc Pride: You’re an idiot! An absolute raving idiot. I don’t need pride in my effeminacy (nice how you assumed I’m effeminate). You’re just a raving lunatic who likes to jump up and down about his fake masculinity. Those who usually constantly talk about their masculinity have very little of it. I am fully secure in myself. And I don’t need a stupid jackass like you telling me what I am or am not.
You are the one with a serious inferiority complex. You’re an extremely insecure and nasty person too.
Giancarlo85
@Masc Pride: Oh wake up you fucking moron… you just attacked me for something you assumed.
Fem “inferiority complex”. Yeah, that’s a good one. Coming from an insecure idiot who needs to defend his masculinity in every fucking post.
Masc Pride
@Giancarlo85: Show and prove. POST SOME QUOTES. This is like the third time I’ve asked for some actual examples of all this constant fem vitriol I supposedly do in “every f*cking post”, and none of you can produce ANYTHING. What a shocker!
You said: “I am feminine androgynous.” So I didn’t assume anything. You also said: “And I don’t need a stupid jackass like you telling me what I am or am not.” Look who’s talking! Funny how upset you get when you get a little dose of your own. You’ve been going on and on about what you think I am/am not all along. You’re hypersensitivity just makes your hypocrisy even more laughable.