“Lying Fag Robinette, DCR = Righteous, get AIDS in hell,” read the graffiti left on a Duke University bridge, spray-painted a couple weeks ago, aimed at junior Justin Robinette, who was supposedly ousted as chairman of the College Republicans when his gayness become known. And that’s not all Robinette says he’s been targeted with since his unceremonious removal as head of the merry band of conservatives.
There’s also the “e-mail he received from a Duke College Republican that he interpreted as blackmail, and an incident in which a former member’s dorm room name tag was overwritten with the word ‘faggot.'” Duke University Police say they’re investigating. And if authorities can find Sarah Palin’s email hacker, surely they can find Robinette’s email harasser.
whatever
You lie with conservative dogs, you get fleas. Very little sympathy here.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@whatever: Exactly! This little fool is the equivalent of a Jew who joins the Nazi Party (and there were some) or a Black man who attempts to join the KKK. So what the fuck does he want and expect??? Go away and join the Libertarians, like all greedy/rich gay boys.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
And why does the Queerty filter censor p*nis but not fuck or asshole??
Hilarious
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: Or an apple that compares itself to an orange.
It stands to reason that if you’re a child brought up in a republican party you’re going to choose to be republican. Just like if you have homophobic parents you’re going to remain closeted.
You really want to hate a kid for choosing his family over some faceless guy on the internet?
I think it’s easy to forget that young gays feel trapped and have no one to turn to which really does more harm than good. People should be helping him, not throwing stones, and spitting.
Hating someone who hates himself seems like picking up the gun he had in his own mouth and shooting him with it. Who’s the bad guy again?
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
Republican or not, he doesn’t deserved to be harassed by classmates or nasty folks on a message board….
Darren Hellwege
Yeah, I have a hard time not having some sympathy for anyone facing this kind of hate at his age. Of course young gay people need to be made more aware of the history and CURRENT DAY policies of the GOP which are not only hateful and homophobic, but immoral in a lot of other ways. If he’s grown up in a family full of the BS of the Republicans, blaming poverty on the victim, attacking those who care about equality and justice, not hearing truthful scientific information, one has to give this guy a little more time to learn truth before thinking he deserves to be treated this way.
I’ve wondered for a long time how any person can in good conscience vote for Republicans, now I have a daughter who’s 17 and I’m having a very hard time convincing her not to. Her best friend’s very conservative, and even though she disagrees on equality and rights issues, she’s anti-choice now and has been fed so much crap about how the wealthy “earn” their hoarding of wealth and the Limbaugh blather about now wanting “government to take over our lives”. It’s complicated stuff and I’m very confident that eventually she’ll come around but it’s hard to get into stuff like reproductive choice with very young folks. I’d like to see people come around to more progressive views without having to suffer through what Justin has.
Tisha
I am personally not a Republican or Dem but gay issues are not the only issues in politics. Do you know his background? Maybe he believes in a ton of things that are considered Republican platforms. Maybe he’s pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, anti-big government, anti-immigration (which I’ve found out many gay people are), etc. He joined a group who shared a similar political ideology as his. Being gay does not make you liberal.
KWil
I cant believe it. We dont have every idea what this young guy believes, defends or feels and yet you guys just stick up your noses at his suffering of hate crimes you would previously deem inexcusable. some diverse and colourful bunch we are huh?
Hilarious
@KWil: Oh trust me, there’s a long list of things you need to fit in with the majority of gay men, if you don’t fit the bill noses will turn to the sky.
I’d list them, but they get upset when you turn the mirror towards them, which is ironic because the mirror is all they ever want to look at in the first place.
scott ny'er
@Hilarious: @Tisha: Good points all around. BUT, correct me if I’m wrong, the Republican party is basically anti-gay. AND, if you are out to yourself (doesn’t matter if you’re out to the world), how can you in good conscience join/support/be a party to those who are anti-gay ? Basically, you’re whipping yourself, abusing yourself, etc.
Yes, most people deserve sympathy and he’s young so he might not be as informed, or experienced and clear headed. Then again, he’s at DUKE, so there is some intelligence there.
I guess I can see it. In primary school, one might be bullied and yet when the bullies want to include you in their reindeer games, one, because they want to be included, joins said bullies. But at some point, One needs to wake up and be proud of themselves and not be abused.
whatever
@KWil: He’s is the object of riducule from his friends and own ideological allies. What’s the old adage about making one’s own bed?
Cam
@whatever: said…
No. 11 · whatever
@KWil: He’s is the object of riducule from his friends and own ideological allies. What’s the old adage about making one’s own bed?
______________________
Yeah, but we all have friends who were raised Mormon or evangelical. It takes some time to breakaway for some of them. This guy is learning the same hard lesson that any Ex Mormon friends of yours learned. The lesson is, you can follow all the rules, and be as good a person as you are supposed to occording to these people, but there are some people that are bigots and will hate you for being different because they are hypocrites. He is learning this in college rather than later in life.
Hilarious
@scott ny’er: Most book smart people lack common sense.
I know this first hand because I have a little sister who’s totally book smart and puts herself in really stupid situations where people can take advantage of her.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
@scott ny’er:
So basically you expect that because he’s gay, he needs to put his feelings on every issue besides gay ones on the backburner and support a Democratic party which lies to our faces just to support your idea of gay politics?
We need more young men and women like him willing to stand up and try to change things instead of just going with the naive flow that is gay folks who vote Democrat because they’re afraid of the Republican boogeyman.
B
No. 10 · scott ny’er said, “@Hilarious: @Tisha: Good points all around. BUT, correct me if I’m wrong, the Republican party is basically anti-gay.”
It’s more that it is pro ultra-rich and pushes policies that really benefit a small fraction of the population, so in order to get elected, they have to appeal to some really, really dumb voters who could be tricked into voting against their self-interests. The homophobic, fundamentalist religious nuts fit the bill.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
Y’all think Larry Craig didn’t get this kind of vile mail and harassment from his former friends when he was outed? Or Ted Haggard?? What the hell is the difference? He willingly joined a political party that is anti-gay while being gay. He’s just another self-loathing freak. What’s with all the compassion for this little political whore when you all bash the shit out of Larry Craig and all other Republican hypocrites when they’re outed? Could it be that this particular hypocrite is cuter than Craig?? No, of course not! Y’all would never, ever, be so shallow!
Fuck him…he’s getting what he deserves.
Zach
@Tisha:
No, but being gay and Republican makes you really fucking stupid.
“We need more young men and women like him willing to stand up and try to change things instead of just going with the naive flow that is gay folks who vote Democrat because they’re afraid of the Republican boogeyman.”
Gays should be frightened of a political party full of people who would lock them up and throw away the key. That’s a pretty understandable and real fear.
Also, have you just checked into American politics? The Democratic Party is full of conservatives. That’s part of the problem. Meanwhile, the Republican party is filled with neo-cons, arch-libertarians, and Christian lunatics.
Hilarious
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: They’re adults in a position of power.
This is a kid you have no reason to be afraid of.
Huge difference.
You really get off on picking on a kid?
tjr101
I usually don’t have sympathy for gay republicans but no one deserves this type of treatment. However, being in the company of coservatives you will hear a lot of anti-gay, prejudice comments so this sort of treatment shouldn’t be a shock to him.
On another note I’m sure the GOP establishment is quite proud their bigot ideology has a future and isn’t going to die anytime soon.
whatever
@Hilarious: He’s an adult. Stop infantilizing him.
Baxter
@scott ny’er: Maybe he just considers the gay rights issues to be less important than say…not having European levels of unemployment. Or not having Big Brother running your life. Or not appeasing nutcases like Ahmadinejad. Or not having European levels of taxation. Or maybe he thinks life begins at conception and considers not killing babies to be more important than gay marriage.
Not everyone’s priorities are the same as yours and there are more issues out there than just the gay ones.
Hilarious
@whatever: Bullshit.
Whatever floats your boat though. If you wanna get off on picking on someone with no power over your whatsoever by all means keep being just as bad as the people you complain about.
If he commits suicide will you feel better?
whatever
@Baxter:
“Or maybe he thinks life begins at conception and considers not killing babies to be more important than gay marriage.”
LOL! Pro-life gay men have to be most useless things ever. Like a f*g should have any say in telling a woman what to do with her own body.
I like to meet one and just laugh in his face.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@Hilarious: Whatever is absolutely right. He looks like he’s in his 20’s…old enough to know what his party stands for. You can’t be gay and join an anti-gay organization and expect everything to work out well. I’m 26 and while I’m a different person than I was when I was 20, even at 20 while closeted, I never went around bashing gays or joining a political party that did and that was a time when I was an economics major and flirting with Republican ideology and libertarian economics (til I figured out it was all complete bullshit.) I have no sympathy for him. The analogy to an adult Jew who joins the Nazis still applies here.
Zach
@Baxter:
“Maybe he just considers the gay rights issues to be less important than say…not having European levels of unemployment.”
He’s a Republican. Under his worldview, governments aren’t responsible for helping people to find jobs.
“Or not having Big Brother running your life.”
He shouldn’t be a Republican then. No American government in history tried as much the Bush Administration to monitor and dictate every aspect of American life. And the Republican Party is replete with neo-cons who will gladly strip away all Constitutional rights whenever the word ‘terrorist’ is uttered, as well as religious theocrats who want everyone to live according to their interpretation of the Cosmic Jewish Zombie.
“Or not appeasing nutcases like Ahmadinejad.”
No, he’d rather appease dictatorships in Saudi Arabia and China. Where were most of those hijackers from again?
“Or not having European levels of taxation.”
If he’s not making more than 95% of the population, he shouldn’t worry.
“Or maybe he thinks life begins at conception and considers not killing babies to be more important than gay marriage.”
Then he’s an idiot for considering a collection of cells and tissue a human being.
Zach
@Zach:
Also, I’d regard a government enslaving a woman for ninth months just because she has a uterus to be pretty damn Orwellian.
Hilarious
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: That’s you.
Read the comment I made about so many gay men loving to look into the mirror while never wanting it held up to their face.
You just proved my point. He’s not you.
“Looks to be.” doesn’t mean is, nor does age mean a damned thing to be honest. Everyone grows and matures in their own time.
As I’ve said 2 or 3 times now he’s in no position of power and your animosity towards him at this point is just childish.
Unless he lands some seat in office and starts adding to anti-gay legislation you’re just being a bratty child crying for attention.
At 26 you should know better than to pick on a closeted gay man, but that hasn’t stopped you yet. And this KID is a KID to me, but perhaps that’s because I know people who are damn near 100 years old, and have the maturity to know that 20 years of life is absolutely nothing. Maybe you’ll figure that out one day if you stop ignoring your elders.
Zach
And again,
You can give the personal credit to Clinton if you prefer, but the Obama Administration has done far more to successfully confront Iran in sixteen months than Bush did in eight years. It’s a very mixed record thus far overall, but it’s better than the unmitigated disaster of the Bush Administration, or the obvious trainwreck of the Palin one. Get a non-lunatic as a Presidential contender and then talk.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
@Zach:
We need more people like this young man or Meghan McCain who are GLB-friendly to try and make changes. Not everyone is going to vote just based on their sexual orientation. It may not make sense to some of you, but to tell him he deserves it speaks volumes about the character of the folks calling him names and saying he deserves to be harassed.
whatever
@Zach: yup. imagine that command coming for a gay man or any man at that.
really, a pro life position is more important than say enacting ENDA?
whatever
Also, didn’t Reagan and Bush II lay waste to the statement, “I am a conservative/Republican because I believe in smaller government?”
Zach
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12):
“We need more people like this young man or Meghan McCain who are GLB-friendly to try and make changes.”
Was dropping the T in the alphabet soup on purpose?
Also, why the low standards? LGBT Republicans and their allies are permitted to ‘try’ and fail – because they haven’t succeeded yet in moving Republicans on any, *any* national gay rights legislation – while Democrats are supposed to instantly pass every piece of gay-rights legislation that comes to their plate?
“Not everyone is going to vote just based on their sexual orientation.”
Yes, and it’s sad how much respect gay Republicans accord to a party that really doesn’t want them at all, beside for occasional fundraiser and photo-op.
“It may not make sense to some of you, but to tell him he deserves it speaks volumes about the character of the folks calling him names and saying he deserves to be harassed.”
He doesn’t deserve to be harassed. But no one here is harassing him. They’re simply stating that they have no sympathy for someone who allies himself with people who despise gays.
I do have sympathy for him. But that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a fucking moron who needs to smarten up right now. And hopefully this will be his wakeup call for what the Republican Party entails.
GayGOP
@whatever: Here’s one into whose face you can laugh. I am staunchly against the murder of infants from the moment that they are concieved, which is exactly what abortion is. It is the murder of children, and every doctor, and every woman, who has had or performed an abortion should be facing the electric chair. Don’t give them something nice, like lethal injection. Fry the behinds of the murderous women and doctors. They take lives, usually for the mere convenience of an adult woman who made a choice to have unprotected sexual intercourse. If the woman didn’t want kids, she shouldn’t have spread her legs in the first place, and even if she did, she should have made sure that wrapped it, had a diaphragm in, and been on NorPlant or the Pill.
That being said, I am going to side, obviously, with the people defending this kid. Agree or disagree with his politics, no person should be getting this sort of treatment. I know, from personal experience, how cruel people at that age can be. I spent half of the 2004 and 2008 Presidential campaigns shouting down people on my own side, Kerry, and McCain respectively, especially ones my age, who attacked the other side unjustly.
Finally, I want to point out that not all of us believe the same thing, and though I should know better by now, I am saddened and reminded, yet again, that the words “diversity” and “freedom” only apply to people who think like liberals in the minds of liberals.
Wetterdew
I’m going to Duke starting this autumn. From what I’ve seen, it’s overall a pretty pro-gay college. The guy who hosted me was a big gay-rights advocate (he was gay) and there was a campaign going on called “NO HOMO(PHOBIA).” There were gay flags every here and there, and they have an LGBT center where you can hang out.
The only problem I saw was when somebody wrote “lame!” underneath my host’s door, where he had hung a sign that said “no homo(phobia).”
I know most colleges are fairly liberal, but I think Duke’s pretty pro-gay compared to others even though there’s still some homophobia.
Zach
@GayGOP:
“Here’s one into whose face you can laugh. I am staunchly against the murder of infants from the moment that they are concieved, which is exactly what abortion is.”
A zygote isn’t an infant. Hell, a fetus isn’t even an infant.
And what about all those millions of potential children you kill when you jerk off?
“It is the murder of children, and every doctor, and every woman, who has had or performed an abortion should be facing the electric chair.”
You must be fun at dinner parties. Zygotes aren’t children. Fetuses aren’t children. And these aren’t just semantics. And if you truly honestly believe that abortion is murder, than there’s an ongoing holocaust. So go do whatever you can to stop it.
Zach
“If the woman didn’t want kids, she shouldn’t have spread her legs in the first place, and even if she did, she should have made sure that wrapped it, had a diaphragm in, and been on NorPlant or the Pill.”
Ah, Republicans. Stripping a woman of her fundamental rights while also putting all responsibilities on her.
whatever
@GayGOP:
“It is the murder of children, and every doctor, and every woman, who has had or performed an abortion should be facing the electric chair. Don’t give them something nice, like lethal injection. Fry the behinds of the murderous women and doctors.”
I am not going to laugh. You are obvious f*cking insane and I never make fun of the mentally ill. Too dangerous.
GayGOP
@Zach: Trust me, I’ve been involved in the pro-life movement for years now. I’ve been out helping to fight the battles, signing on to court briefs, encouraging people out to go change their mind, praying at clinics where such murders are occurring, talking to women and encouraging them to preserve the life that is growing within them.
Furthermore, you assume a great deal when you make comments regarding my sex life.
Regarding the alleged fundamental right, I side with Justices Scalia and Thomas in saying that sexual activity is not a fundamental right protected by the Constitution; indeed, nothing exists that is validly protected in a “privacy interest” because there is no such thing.
whatever
@Zach: GayGOP is a mysogynist genocidist. He wants every woman who has ever had an abortion to be excecuted.
His own mother or sister could be sent to death chambers along with millions of other women.
Cam
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge:
Larry Craig was a Senator, people still kissed his ass.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
@Zach:
I’ll go in reverse order:
1. Yes, people on here are most certainly harassing him, they’re just hiding it behind a faux-intellectualism which I find repugnant. Saying that you have sympathy for him and then calling him a “fucking moron” tells me you don’t have sympathy for him, it just sounds nice to say…
2. There are gay Republicans. And let’s face it, there are gay Democrats who do the same. Vote anti-GLB rights and just pull us out for a photo-op every now and then. Either way, we shouldn’t expect this young man to throw away his thoughts on the economy, abortion, immigration and other issues just to jump in lock step with the folks demanding he abandon the Republican party. You either understand that or you don’t (or in this case, accept it, which clearly most of the posters here do not).
3. We have to have Republicans willing to try and fail in order to get anywhere with them. Evolution is all about trying, failing, then trying and getting some success, then trying again and getting more success. I’m not quite ready to give up on younger Republicans like him or Ms. McCain just yet. I can only hope that as they get older, they will take the Republican party, or a good part of it, in a new direction. But that won’t happen over night.
4. My views on sexual orientation versus gender identity are well-know enough that I will not derail this thread and turn it into an argument over identity politics.
Baxter
@whatever: That’s kind of a sad way to look at morality: “if it doesn’t affect me personally, I’m not allowed to have an opinion on it”. If you honestly believe that life begins at conception, then you shouldn’t be OK with abortion, whether you’re a gay man or a straight woman. At that point it’s not a question of whether a woman should have control over her own body, but of whether a woman has the right to murder a child. And just because gay men aren’t carrying children doesn’t mean that they can’t weigh in on that issue, just like we can weigh in on any other murder that doesn’t affect us personally.
I don’t personally believe that life begins at conception, but I do believe that there’s not really any solid scientific evidence either way and that both sides have a legitimate point of view on this issue.
Brian Miller
Both the Republican and Democratic parties are anti-gay. Sadly, partisans of each are myopic. Screeching Democrat queens celebrating the abuse of this poor guy will quickly rush to the defense of outspoken homophobes like the president and vice president, while Republican apologists will try and present Dick Cheney as God’s Gift to Queerkind and ignore the fact that he’s the “exception” in his party vis-a-vis marriage equality.
whatever
@Baxter: You can have an opinion on anything. I am just saying the opinion is absolutely worthless and meaningless.
whatever
@Baxter: So I take it that you don’t agree with GayGOP that women who have abortions should be executed?
That’s a relief.
It can’t we stated enough. A gay Republican (GayGOP) thinks that women who have abortions should be EXECUTED. He has not walked back this statement as hyperbole or flame but I am giving him the opportunity to do so.
David Ehrenstein
He can walk back into a chainsaw.
Devon
He’s cute.
Baxter
@whatever: Eh, look at it from his perspective: in his eyes, these women are just as guilty of murder as someone who walks into a kindergarten and starts killing kids. If GayGOP thinks that second person should be executed, it stands to reason that he’d think the woman who gets abortions should be executed as well.
I mean, is there really a huge difference between killing a baby five minutes before it’s born and killing one five minutes after it’s born?
whatever
@Baxter: Are you dense? I understand his fucked-up, illogical reasoning. The bag lady I pass by the corner spouts nonsensical jibberish as well, but I don’t pretend she is expressing meaningful, valid opinions.
I invite you to look at the logical consequences of his position. By some estimates, 33 million abortions have been performed since Roe v. Wade was handed down. That means tens of million of women have had this procedure. That means those tens of millions of women deserve to be executed in his twisted little mind.
The odds are great that we all know some women who had the procedure done including our friends, sisters or mothers–these people all deserving of death according to GayGOP.
Michael
There’ a bunch missing from this story. Not once does Justin address the charges of his job malfeasance, rather, he just uses the “gay card.” If he’s correct, then I assume what the group wants in a leader is a straight derelict.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): I expect because he’s gay it should give him pause about his party openly being hostile toward gays, and what that means about his party’s position on other issues.
That would require that he realize there is some cognitive dissonance in saying “not my issue” but on all others I agree. At its core, there is a guiding philosophy in being conservative. The question is why am I suppose to be sympathetic toward this guy? There are others who are more deserving of my emotional time.
TomEM
But… uhm,
he is not un-cute(?)
Have we stopped defending attractive people?
🙁
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Wetterdew: My guess is Duke is very similar to UVa or other schools of the type. Its liberal for the South, but that doesn’t mean its some great liberal bastion.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): Your comment is silly, and here’s why
1) Sympathy doesn’t equal a lack of judgment. Your definition of sympathy seems to be the same as those who say one can only be open minded if one lacks judgment or to be tolerance one must accept the intolerant. Such definitions simply collapse in on themselves like the black holes they are. They are nice chess moves in that you back someone into a corner that does not logically follow from the definition of either sympathy or being judgmental by calling someone dumb. By your definition, when I see the guy who bets it all in Vegas on red, I am not suppose to have sympathy although I thought he was a complete idiot for betting all on red. People can hole complex emotions despite your attempt to limit what they can feel. So, they can in fact feel both despite your attempt to require that one choose between false choices.
2) Once again, your response bout throwing away his views on the other issues derives from some sort of disjointed notion of what those views arise from. In other words, that conservatism about gay rights is somehow unrelated to views about a woman’s right to chose or economic issues. Worse yet, it promotes what I call the “I got mine” notion that black Republicans like Ward Connelly push. So long as they got theirs, why shouldn’t they be Republicans? The truth is that the underlying harm to others is the point. If one is saying that equality arises out of just what one personally can get- ie this kid can be pro gay rights because gay rights favors him- and anti abortion and anti economic equality etc- then what you are saying is not about rights at all. Its about selfish need. You are right that one need not see that, and one can live their lives that way. Just don’t expect others to ignore the vice just because you want to turn it into a virtue.
3) We don’t need the GOP to do shit. When you say that, one can see your desperation. It also doesn’t matter what you are willing to do. You aren’t the point. Neither am I. The relevant issue is the big picture of what this all means when people are discussing how they have a problem with a gay REpublican. Its not about what you would like the party to be, but what the party is, and addressing it accordingly. What is the underlying belief system that so openly is hostile to change? That’s the question that your comment ignores in its zeal to be faux open minded.
4) If you didn’t want to discuss sexual orientation versus gender, then don’t bring it up in passive aggressive ploys that you know people will notice since we all all operating off the same culture here. Its just in bad taste to both claim I am open minded, and then at hte drop of dime, flip the switch to close your mind off.
4)
Ogre Magi
No stranger or worse than gay christians IMHO
Jon
I was a gay-GOPer but yeah too much hate there. Now I’m a dem rather I like it or not. Lol! It sucks, too bad you got that hate too cute Duke boy.
Jon
@Ogre Magi: Depends on what Church.
alan brickman
become a demo already!!
Toby
I think this is a lesson for us all–Even if you’re cute, the GOP STILL wont except you.
That and…what do you except from latent homosexuals? (BTW I call the GOP-Gay, Only Pretending)
D'oh, The Magnificent
There are other choices than either the Democratic or Republican Parties.
Reading the comments here, one would think that one had to either choose the anti-gay party or the party that gives us lip service. How about not being a cheap date?
hf2hvit
When you lay down with assholes you will smell shit.
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@D’oh, The Magnificent: Not really. I don’t know of any political change that didn’t occur within the two-party system, going back to the party that preceded the Republicans, the Whigs. We have a two party system and a spectrum of Conservatism and Liberalism within the two party system so if you are actually actively trying to change things for your side, you should work within the system. The most effective way to do it is to push the party that’s more accepting of you as part of it’s base; that would be the Democrats. You don’t see the religious right trying to take over the Dems because they know it’s futile. So why are there so many Gay Republicans when they know it’s futile to try and change the Republicans? Every minority group that has won equal rights in this country won it by working through the Dems; the Republicans stopped being progressive on human rights after the suffrage movement and embraced cultural and political Conservatism. So those who say we can change the Republican party are either fools or outright lying to you or themselves (either because they are indeed fools or they just don’t have the balls to come out and say “I love money and hate poor people and Mexicans”.) The core of that party is made up of religios homophobes: they can’t do without them, their organizing or their money without becoming completely politically irrelevant, just the way the Dems can’t do without Blacks as their base. Anyone who thinks Republicans will ever welcome Gays knows nothing about the Republicans.
GayGOP
@whatever: And I will not be retracting my statement. It is my opinion, and, God willing, when I am a legislator, it will be the law of the land, that abortion shall be a crime equivalent to first degree murder, punishable by the death penalty. Furthermore, doctors performing such procedures should be guilty under a murder for hire theory.
That being said, I will not be defending the commentary of those flinging hateful speech at this poor young man.
Nicole
I’m a conservative lesbian that still considers herself Christian. I am MORE than just my sexuality!
Erik
I doubt that he is a “self-loathing freak” as one of you guys said. First of all, he kinda looks adorable to me. He certainly does not deserve any of the harrassment that he has received. I don’t even understand why someone would go out of their way to cause pain to someone by writing blackmailish emails or grafitti.
He is not asking for any of this by being a Republican. As other people have said there are many other issues in which you could have Republican views about.
Certainly I think there need to be more Republicans like him. Guys who are gay who at least are honest to themselves about their sexuality and don’t go around marrying a girl as a cover-up.
Good luck to this young guy from a fellow young guy!
Erik
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
Welcome back Jason (Mojojo/Jesse Helms), as GayGop & Nicole. You are a persistent little twat. But your brand of crazy is very easy to spot. Stick to the Jesse Helms moniker; at least that was entertaining.
jeffree
This is a pretty basic decision.
Do we learn from & suppoprt the person who realized he had swung to the wrong side on social issues OR do we vote for the people who spread hatered about a man who happened to be gay?
This is not astrophysics, it’s reality,
Black Pegasus
Fuck Him!
The only thing I hate more than a Republican is
a Hypocrite! So Fuck Him! Did I say Fuck him already?
oh well, Fuck Him again!
**SASHAY CHANTE**
whatever
@GayGOP: Shame your mother didn’t abort you, you misogynist little freak.
GayGOP
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: I do believe you have me confused with someone else. I have always gone by this name on Queerty. I merely am gay, and support the religious right on about 80% of their issues because I think they have gotten things largely correct.
Rob
@Black Pegasus: How do you know he is a hypocrite?
Bill Perdue
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: tells us that ‘I don’t know of any political change that didn’t occur within the two-party system, going back to the party that preceded the Republicans, the Whigs. That kind of thinking dominates sophomore poli-sci classes and sophomoric thinking but has little relation to reality.
The two party system collapsed in 1860 and the resulting social crisis was solved on the battlefield by farmers and workers from the North and West and by African American freedmen and escapees from all over the country.
Women won the battles for suffrage and reproductive rights in the streets. The courts and Congress caved to their persistent demands.
Trade unions won the huge victories of the 30’s and 40’s through industrial unions, strikes and general strikes fighting Democrat and Republican union busters alike.
Voting rights and other civil rights were won in the streets and ratified by Congress and the Courts. Not the other way around. Civil rights laws have not ended huge inequalities in income, access to good education and medical services or the mistreatment by racist police and prosecutors for working class Latinos, Blacks or native Americans.
The failed US invasion and occupation of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos was stopped by the intransigence of Vietnamese patriots and the work of the GI and civilian antiwar movements fighting against rightwing Democrats and Republicans like JFK, LBJ and Nixon and the prowar majority of both parties in Congress.
The Democrats contributions to LGBT equality to date consists of overwhelming passage of DOMA, DADT (with no repeal), a refusal to consider ENDA, several dozen very pretty Easter eggs and a tepid, meaningless hate crimes bill.
Those who say we can change the Democrat party are either fools or outright lying to you or themselves. In addition they openly support Obama’s rancid ‘gawd’s in the mix’ homohating, the doomed invasions and occupations of Iraq and Palestine, union busting, abstinence vs., condoms, attacks on civil liberties and trillions for the looting classes combined with austerity for the working classes by supporting Democrats. Anyone who thinks Democrats will ever do anything for the LGBT communities but lie to us and stab us in the back knows nothing about the Democrats or their Republican cousins.
KatyGirl
This is very interesting but pales in comparison to the Bieber Kardashian Hotel Tape!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R431QNDR
reason
I must say, I have very little sympathy for Mr. Robinette. Sure, I have some conservative views: pro-life, gun rights supporter, believe in God, and can find some agreement on other issues. I am an open minded person that is more dynamic in my views; I am a rationalist who perceives things in different shades of gray and doesn’t believe you can apply a rigid overarching political philosophy on every issue. Both parties have a diverse set of beliefs some which I view as directly hypocritical. I share some liberal views: against the death penalty, limited health care as a basic right, comprehensive anti-discrimination laws, and the belief that government has an important role in society among other things. I value thorough discussions about issues, and I am willing to change my mind if there is a strong argument for doing so.
I do fear the rigid extremism of both poles of the political spectrum, which is where I run into some trouble with Robinette. Robinette was the chairman, not some casual attender, of his schools republican party in North Carolina. A state not known for a penchant for intellectual based conservatism. This character ascended to the apex of this organization, and as a scholar it is safe to assume that he new this organization inside and out. With a short hop skip and a jump over to their website I ran across their beloved platform; skimming through to, Article V, the section on education it became abundantly clear though the message was equivocated their stance on homosexuality. They have the code phrases there including liberal social engineering, moral western values, and parents choose sexual information relayed to their kids, over promotion of homeschooling. Anyone who has been paying attention is aware that those are the same arguments that the right uses to attack any form of positive education about homosexuals branded the “homosexual agenda” that supposedly geared toward the indoctrination of little boys and girls.
Beyond that stuff what really struck me was the quote on the front page by, none other than, Ronald Regan which starts of with “surround yourself with the best people you can find” which is the sticking point. Mr. Robinette knew who he was surrounded with, lets be honest this sort of hateful, bigoted, violent behavior that he is experiencing is not created in a vacuum. Robinette knew what type of individuals these people were, and chose to immerse himself with them working as their leader to empower them. How many individuals on that campus were subject to the harassment of these juvenile acting adults? How many walls were defaced with appalling messages? How many people were directly harassed or the tail end of these individuals jokes? Robin can’t shift blame to some obscure part of the GOP because these are his people. They are all thugs, and I hope after Robinette suffer some of the trauma that he has perpetrated that he wakes up and changes his ways. Individuals like him are destroying conservatism and anything loosely associated with it by their childish behavior. Mr. Robinette, you will find little sympathy here but on the brights side I do believe in redemption. Until then with all this media exposure your going to have people crawling out of the gutters of North Caroline to get to you, so good luck.
Sexy Rexy
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: Sometimes I think Queerty is the Logo Channel for gay websites. They can be both catty and pussified at the same time.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
@GayGOP: I for one would like you rabid anti-abortion activists begin to plan for the future. If you get your wish and abortion is outlawed, there will be hundreds of thousands of births to parents who clearly have no desire to support of provide for the newborns. When will you be willing to sign a sworn statement, and put approximately $100,000.00 in an escrow account to begin providing basic neccesities for these individuals. And how many will you be willing to provide for??????? Its time for you big mouths to begin to put your money where your mouths are………….
Memo to Justin Robinette: There never were any tickets printed for the Gays to be admitted into the Repugnaticans “big tent”……………..
scott ny'er
@B: Ahhh. Thanks for the clarification. I’ve yet to hear something as concise as that on the republican party.
@Baxter: @DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): All fine retorts, but yes, I feel that one being gay is more important that the other issues. Anti-gay is basically being anti-you, that is if you’re out to yourself.
It’s like a black person joining an anti-black club, just because they support all those other issues you guys listed. Do you really think that is a good idea for a black person to join a party of KKK’ers who like pro-choice, less gov’t, etc? Seriously?
I’ve seen others here say it and didn’t truly get it but there is a sense of self-hating that I see here in that thought process.
Another example, it’s like being physically challenged (read: handicap for the less PC) and joining a group who is against the rights of free access to buildings because it costs too much, and having braille books, etc. Why would you join a group that works against your innate being?
scott ny'er
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: Here! Here!
@GayGOP: Scary! Scary! And I hope you’re a woman, because I do agree that a man really should have a limited say on the abortion issue. It’s not my body, how can I have a say in that. I don’t have a vagina, so I have less perspective.
(Former) Duke Republican Officer
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=124279657612089&v=wall&ref=ts
The “email harasser” is already known actually; evidence has been uploaded as photos to this webpage to ask that the university take action. The message and messages come from Carter Boyle, current Chairman of DCR, and Rachel Provost, his girlfriend and Chief of Staff of DCR.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge: You don’t need to be a part of either party to produce the political change. You confuse who you must influence with what you must join. By your logic, there can never be separate entities. Your lack of thought on this does not mean there aren’t other ways. The NRA is not a part of either party, and yet, they fight for gun rights. That’s my logic. Yours seems to be to put on a straight jacket and then tell me why its necessary.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Nicole: Everyone who posts here is more than their sexuality.
BUT, they are also more interested in realizing how things connect than you seem to be.
I wish folks like you would stop pretending you have a leg up on the rest of us when you are actually just a walking bit of cognitive disonnance.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Erik: And as others have said, if he doesn’t see the links between how they treat gays, and those others things, that is not a basis for us to feel sorry for him. You and the rest keep trying to pass a vice off as a virtue. It doesn’t change what it is no matter how you try to hide it. Essentially you are arguing – well on his rights- he is willing to say they should act differently, but on other things that affect other people then he’s not. That’s not a basis for sympathy or anything but contempt.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@jeffree: Actually you are right. Its not astrophysics.
it is an example of your shit being projected into the conversation. Where does he say he’s learned from this?
You should be able to point out out or leave your baggage the door and stop smelling up the place.
uncgal
actually, he says he did learn from it. It says:
http://www.dailytarheel.com/content/duke-crs-former-chair-cuts-republican-party-ties
D'oh, The Magnificent
@uncgal: @uncgal: Thanks. I hadn’t realized that. I have more sympathy now for him because he is showing an awareness on some level that there is a problem inthe organization to which he belongs. Now, the real question for me, and they don’t answer is whether he realizes how this fits into the ideological perspective.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@uncgal:Point of clarification: whether he realizes that it is not just enough to realize how they harmed him, but how the ideological perspective harms others.
I have a friend who until she met me didn’t really have someone she could talk to about these things. Things she would take for granted. I had to tell her over and oer again -that’s not the way it works in the south. Indeed, right now, she doesn’t undrestand why anyone wouldn’t want regulate BP, for example, because although she’s conservative, she’s not dogmatically conservative. My point to her is that her ideological perspective when rigidly applies is what leads to BP. When she’s railing against the government, that’s what she enabling. She still doesn’t get how her own needs are connected, and I wonder if this kid gets that point either.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
@scott ny’er:
Some of us emotionally healthy people are able to look at the world as full people, not as GLB people. I don’t need to look at every thing which happens and give the “GLB response” to it, or look at it from a “GLB perspective”. While common among those first coming out, I’ve learned over many years that there comes a point where you are either a complete and whole person, or you’re forever stuck identifying yourself based on one facet of your personality.
The self-hatred comes when you assail a young man like this because some find his political views to be unacceptable and think he “deserves” what he gets.
@D’oh, The Magnificent:
1) Sympathy does not equate to calling someone a “fucking moron” and saying he deserves to be harassed and bullied because of his political beliefs. People who say he deserves this are, quite frankly, PC idiots. If people want to disagree with his views, that’s fine, but I will not sit back and agree that this kid “deserves” whatever harassment he gets. There are intelligent ways to state your case, and ignorant ways to do so. Ignorant is the name calling and attacks being lobbed at this kid.
2) If I’m understanding this response, your position here is twofold: first, that you don’t agree with those of us who do not let our sexual orientation guide every political decision we make. That’s identity politics, and we don’t all believe that because we aren’t hetero that we ought to be pro-life for example. Some of us vote and think as whole people, not just with one part of our being. Second, you’re making the same comment leveled at black and latino and female GOPers, which is “but you’re being oppressed and supporting your oppressors because you think you’re better than the rest of us!”. Check, Big Brother has spoken, too bad some of us don’t buy into that, either.
3) Young people who support the GOP DO want to try and change things. They’re not going to jump ship because things are hard. The younger generation of GOPers aren’t the same as the old guard. They don’t want it to be a “tea party” party. This is the same crap I hear from anti-religion folks who say that GLB folks need to jump ship and be atheists or attend a more progressive church. Just because some folks are too lazy or angry to do so, doesn’t mean this young man ought to be vilified.
4) Again, my views are well-known on the topic. Just because I see the T community as a separate entity from GLB doesn’t make me or anyone else a bad person who can’t comment on the hate and groupthink being espoused by far too many people here.
Zach
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12):
1) How about you not tell other people what their sympathy entails?
I feel sorry for this kid. I feel sorry for a lot of people – people who waste their time believing in magical beings, or thinking that atrocities are justified by their own depredations. Understanding and sympathizing with people doesn’t mean agreeing with their perspective. And it sure a hell doesn’t mean being soft on something they’re fundamentally wrong about.
2) Your sexual orientation doesn’t have to dictate every decision you make. What you’re not grasping is that identity politics only exist because there are those who restrict our rights and attack who we are. The Republican Party doesn’t see anything else than your sexuality and your money. It’s why they think it’s alright to fire someone because they’re gay, or deny marriage equality. And yes, they’ll gladly welcome the upper-class ‘I got mine’ set, but everyone else is fit for the gutter, as this case demonstrates.
3) Someone always brings up adhering to a principle whilst hoping to change some of the details, be it the Republican Party or religion. But as Cormac McCarthy brilliantly put it, if the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?
If the end result of Republicanism is always the same – bigger government, tax cuts for the wealthy to the exclusion of everyone else, slavery to corporate interests, a callous disregard for constitutional rights, and an expansionist foreign policy – then of what use is Republicanism? You can whine about the principle being abused and misinterpreted all you like – at the end of the day, you’ve never demonstrated it can be anything but.
And I would encourage religious gays to give serious thought and study to their faith. A year’s worth of good study and an open mind is generally enough to see the fundamental fiction that it entails.
Zach
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12):
By the way, the politically correct response in this case would be to welcome him and not judge him, not attack him. You and the other apologists are the ones being PC; everyone else is having fun being judgmental.
John (CA)
What this amounts to is a rich, privileged, conservative white man’s friends don’t like him anymore because of his sexual orientation.
Armageddon, it is not.
It is far more disturbing to me that people are treating this internal party squabble with the sort of urgency they rarely show for murder victims from the “wrong” neighborhood. I think that alone says everything one needs to know about who controls American society, whose experiences are deemed valuable, and conversely, who is considered expendable.
The intersection of money and power is a busy one indeed.
great_conquest
@John (CA): What makes you think this guy has money? Do you know him personally?
D'oh, The Magnificent
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): Ditto what Zach says.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Zach: agree. The caricature liberal or open minded person as I wrote is the one who believes to be tolerant means accepting the intolerant. In our times, this is the political correct response because so many people believe this non-thought out position.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@John (CA): I agree with your post. It is like those who are rushing to defend the state Senator from CA for being forced out of the closet. One has to eventually ask what motivates this, and yet, at the same time, these same people will respond with such vitriol to the “others” in our society. Meanwhile, when mentioning the harm that this Senator did, they want to wash over that in favor of a pretty speech. The same holds true here. This kid -I have to ask myself- does he really understand or does it only understand how it harmed him? Therein lies the problem.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@great_conquest: Its implied from the circumstances.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@great_conquest: I went to UVa. A school of similar calibre as Duke. trust me, this kid is at least middle middle class just by looking at him.
Jimmi
@Cam: . . . IN AIRPORT MEN’S ROOMS!
Yet Another
This is sad, and I don’t just mean the story.
Its sad that on Queerty dissenting opinions can be modded down to hell because the majority feels one way. It’s also sad that the comments are so one sided, as if there is very little diversity of thought here.
If you’re in the Queerty majority I”m sure you’ll mod this down but its not a judgement of the opinions expressed, just the forum in which we all express them.
scott ny'er
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): I never said he deserved what he got.
I wanted to understand how any LGBT can be part of the Republican movement. And I might have said that it’s no surprise that this happened to him, and if I didn’t, I’m saying it now.
When you run with wolves, you will get bitten. It’s just a matter of time. Not a great metaphor but it suites it’s purposes.
Answer me this, if you were black would you join a KKK org that other than being against Black people matches up with all/or many of your politics. I think not but I’ll let you answer me that.
scott ny'er
@Zach: I think I’m in love with you. LOL. Seriously, you bring some (as do others) some nice clarity to this discussion. And don’t take it a negative level as I’m finding DR has.
“emotionally healthy people”, lol, nice backstabbing comment by him.
scott ny'er
@Yet Another: Stop assuming. I think I’m part of the majority here and I hate those thumbs up/down comments. I welcome discussion. I don’t like insults tho.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
@Zach: @D’oh, The Magnificent:
And here are exhibits (A) and (B) as to why identity politics suck.
DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12)
@scott ny’er:
Call it backstabbing if you want, but the fact of the matter is that the constant cries of victimhood from the left which demand that women, racial minorities and sexual minorities think, act and accept what is considered right and good or “suffer the consequences” is hardly a healthy mindset to me. The idea that any one facet of my personality has to guide every decision I make and dictate what issues I agree and don’t agree with doesn’t make me a whole person.
This whole situation is pathetic. Sad to know that the only way this kids gets support is if he decides to give up everything he knows and believes and joins the Gay Borg.
whatever
@Yet Another: ugh, cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
whatever
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): wtf? modern conservatism is based wholly on white male grievance and victimhood–the idea that whites can’t succeed because women, minorities and the poor get all the breaks in society. Your projection is utterly laughable.
Just look at the Sotomayor confirmation hearing from last year, the teatard protests, the right’s collective loss of its mind since Obama became president to see this victimhood in action.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): Except I am not engaged in identity politics. I discussing how identity, this guy’s identity, defines the situation.
scott ny'er
@DR (the real one, not the guy who made post #12): There is nothing about being healthy or not being healthy. It’s about being mindful of the dangers that lurk when you play with those that hate you or part of you. He played with fire and got burnt. And he seems to be re-thinking some things now.
You’re confusing the issues. Joining with those that hate you and support.
Honestly, I have many things going on in my life right now, and I can’t spare the time to support people (namely this dude) who willingly joins up with people who rail against LGBT rights. My energy can be better spent on my brothers who are fighting FOR our rights.
Again, I find it sad this happened to him but it’s not like he got AIDS or cancer. Big picture.
Chitown Kev
What kind holds me back from feeling pity for him is the idea that he may have joined in the scorn that Rethugs heap on gay people.
Now that may or may not be true of YOUNG Republicans. So I guess that I am saying that I don’t know enough here to know what to feel.
Paul S.
I’m going to Duke this Fall, this makes me sick. As someone hose parents are Republicans and even though I voted for Obama I would consider myself a libertarian–fiscally conservative—I know I’m gay and this happenign at my school or my to-be school is just terrible. I was there for a pre-freshmen thing not too long ago and read something about this.
Yet Another
@scott ny’er:
Meanwhile, your post was modded down. Either for not rebutting me with Lame Cliche’s from the 1980’s like @whatever did, or because you dared to express displeasure with the modding tools. lol, either way it’s ridiculous.
And sad.
whatever
@Yet Another: more conservative victimhood. sigh, do you people ever let up on your persecution complexes?
whatever
Aaaaaaand I have the greatest number of thumbs down on my comments out of anyone here, but do you see me belly aching?
james_from_the_great_city_of_cambridge
@whatever: Look again buddy!
ROn J
I completely agree. It is stupid of people on this site to point fingers at him. The Republicans have a lot of good ideas seperate from equality and rights. Lets not be blinded like the people who vote ANC every election in South Africa. There are pyscotic people in the democratic party too, like exrtremely conservative minorities who like benefits and welfare (exagerration), but not rights for others. Whoever is condemning him on this site, SHUT THE FUCK UP, you arn’t perfect. One can argue that fiscal conservative policies are better than keynsian ones, and vice versa. I would have a problem with him if he was like ted haggard or some other pyscho uttering hate speech against gays. From what I heard he was just republican.
hkjjkj
certainly not at the undergraduate level.
Yet Another
@whatever:
Conservative victimhood? WTF are you even talking about? Who’s a conservative and who do you mean “you people”?
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Yet Another: If you are going to pretend not be going for victimhood, may I suggest you don’t put words like “you people” in quotes and ask what does one mean by “you people.” My other suggestion is that if you aren’t conservative, you (as in “you” and not someone else since “you”seem confused by the pronoun “you”) may want to figure out what the conversation here is about rather than participating first. But hey, it is much easier to speak than to listen
whatever
@Yet Another: Even if you’re not a conservative (lol, who would be want be labelled with such a discredited ideology?), you have the persecution complex down pat.
“No one likes my silly opinions. Big ol’ meanines are voting me down. I am being OPPRESSED! (TM)”
Wah! Wah! Wah!
whatever
@(Former) Duke Republican Officer: cannot read the messages. too small. how can you make it bigger?
ossurworld
Living in a log cabin isn’t what it used to be for a Republican.
worldpeacepeople
I WANT TO LEAD A CLUB WHERE EVERYBODY HATES ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!
Nicole
@No. 81 · D’oh, The Magnificent
Why such a negative response to my original statement?
trickstertara
I resent and resist anyone who calls gay conservatives “Jewish Nazis” or “black Klans members.” It’s inflammatory and devoid of any real understanding of how people view themselves, their sexuality and their politics. For some of us, all of it’s connected. For others, they don’t see their sexuality (and how their sexuality is viewed, used for political purposes) as having any impact on how they view other political issues. Nobody deserves the level of harassment they get from all sides.
That said, I would feel a lot more sympathy for Justin Robinette if he had *stayed in his position* as the head of his organization. He should have stuck to his guns and said “yes I am… and you’re not driving me out.” It was too late to go back and be out from the beginning, but he didn’t have to take a dive and back out in disgrace. He could have made much more of an impact if he’d stayed. Maybe he could have even changed a few people’s minds.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@trickstertara: Yes, we know some of you are too stupid to realize that supporting a group that hates you isn’t a good idea.
That’s not something you should be proud of- being stupid I mean.
tjr101
@trickstertara:
Robinette was impeached by his bigot peers and had no choice but to resign. You reap what you sow.
Queer Supremacist
@GayGOP: If the comment that 33 million women who have had legalized abortions should be guilty of murder, as are the doctors who performed them, then you are calling for mass murder on a scale greater than Hitler, Mao, and Stalin. Life begins at birth; why do you think we celebrate birthdays and not conception days?
Abortion is not only a human right, but it should be an obligation for certain people. Any woman on welfare who gets knocked up should be forced to get an abortion or lose their benefits.
I do not call myself “pro-choice.” I am pro-abortion and proud of it. I am also for the mandatory execution of anyone who kills an abortion doctor or a woman who had an abortion. I also call for anyone who advocates putting women who have abortions to death or putting abortion doctors to death to be killed, just like I call for any cultist who calls for the execution of gays to be killed.
GayGOP, you should be killed for your beliefs on the brave women and even braver doctors who defy would-be genocidal maniacs like you. I will spend every day and every night working toward a future where people like you end up on the receiving end of a firing squad.
DCR should be banned, as should any group that practices anti-gay discrimination, and the students responsible for that graffiti should be expelled and put in jail. Maybe the same people who stood behind that skanky ghetto trash breeder who slandered the lacrosse team will lead the call.
trickstertara
@D’Oh the Magnificent: I’m not conservative. I just don’t denigrate or repudiate gay people who are.
Hilarious
Are you people so blinded by arguing back and forth about politics that you don’t care a gay kid is the target of homophobia?
It really doesn’t matter how or why. Get over yourselves and leave your politics at the door.
Would it take violence for you to care? This isn’t something you should be ok with no matter what the reason.
If the people targeting him get away with it what’s to stop them from going after your college students or people you know after they’re done with him?
Maybe I’m going over some heads so let me relate it to an unrealistic motion picture.
Remember when Spiderman let the bookie get robbed after he got stiffed and that same robber turned around and killed his uncle?
Awake yet?
This is bigger than some kid’s extra-curricular activities, we currently have other gay men saying it’s ok if a gay male is the subject of homophobic activity because he took part in a young republicans group on his campus.
Really? I couldn’t be more disgusted right now.
You’d rather push your political agenda which has no power at all I might add than care about finding any sort of way to help a college kid find support and maybe even guidance that he probably wasn’t receiving before. Sick.
I’m more afraid of most of you than him. He’s not a closeted gay politician who’s fighting against our rights(and if he was hoping to get there he’s still young and there’s time to get through to him…well if some of you stop being assholes) and he’s not some bastard who thinks it’s ok to bully a guy for being gay just because he was/is a republican.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@trickstertara: I don’t give a shit whether you are conservative or not. You seem to think supporting stupid behavior that harms all of us, but you not being a member of the group that does it, makes you somehow less stupid. It doesn’t. You are still are an idiot. Actually, you are the worse kind of fake open mindedness in which you think open mind means lacking in judgment.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Hilarious: No we aren’t blind to that, but you seem to be blind to the fact that this was known of the GOP before he joined the group, which is the subject we are discussing.
Hilarious
@D’oh, The Magnificent: The subject you’re discussing is a shallow and unfounded one. Did you stop to research what you’re ranting about? He has supporters within the group he was in. So *gasp* not everyone who’s republican is homophobic! (now stop making me defend republicans with your idiotic and very blind hatred)
There are plenty of democratic homophobes too. There are also a large amount of democrats who say they’ll do things for us and then drop us after the votes are in.
None of that has nothing to do with a gay kid being the target of homophobia though and again shame on you for thinking it’s ok just because he’s republican.
whatever
Also re:abortion. Black women have higher rates of abortion than women of other races, so the “let’s execute women who had a legal medical procedure” would have a disproportionate effect on them.
Call me shocked that a Republican would call for the slaughter of black women.
Hilarious
I guess I’m a horrible person then for being a black male and saying lets put politics aside to care about someone who’s currently the target of homophobia.
And I guess since I’m a black male I shouldn’t care about a white republican because they’re all “evil” and “hate” me.
k.
whatever
@Hilarious: You’re not horrible, you are myopic. These instances of homophobia aren’t random nor exist in a vaccuum.
They are part and parcel of the conservative ideology to which this guys subscribes. What you are outraged about, I see as a natural consequence of aligning oneself with such an ideology in the first place.
Hilarious
@whatever: So based on your knowledge of absolutely nothing about him you’ve assessed that he deserves to be the target of homophobia.
Okay.
notlikely
This guy goes to a school in the South populated by a bunch of athletic rapist pigs who rape for sport, what does he expect? To get a fanfare when a roomful of Republicans force his ass out for being gay? Duke is letting this happen to teach him a lesson, hopefully, which should be–don’t ally yourself with people who despise you and then expect Rape U. to come to your defense. Another reason to hate Duke University as much as I already hate Republicans.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Hilarious: Your comment is nonsensical. The very nature of political parties tells us a lot about his ideological beliefs.
I suspect what you mean is that we don’t know all the fluffy stuff that will makes us go “awwww isn’t he so sweet.”
What we need to know is exactly what we have for judging him here. You are the one engaging in delusional thinking where political affiliation tells us nothing crucial. That’s like saying someone being a member of the KKK tells us nothing about them. Its just idiot on such a deep level as to render you brain dead.
Hilarious
@D’oh, The Magnificent: Your screws are pretty loose.
scott ny'er
@Hilarious: So, then would it be safe to say you would be ok with a Black man or woman joining a KKK org? You just would try to support him and protect him and let him be president of the KKK org? Isn’t that a similar situation like this one?
D'oh is a Stupid Bitch
nuff said
Michael
Since when do gay people have more tolerance than straights when it comes to people who don’t pull their weight? He sounds like a loser.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Hilarious: Yeah, I take my advice on sanity from the guy talking to himself on the train. You being that guy talking to himself on the train.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@Michael: Its the whole “to be tolerant you must accept the intolerant” faux open minded liberalism that plays off the right wings caricature of liberals. Don’t take it personally. Its just lazy thinking.
D'oh, The Magnificent
@D’oh is a Stupid Bitch: If you got to do something like this, it means you can’t bring it. Let me know when you are up to the challenge of having to really defend your bullshit.
Tipauski
I am a gay republican. It is not a fairy tale.
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The Swallower
What does he expect, he associates with hatemongers, the republicans are known for it. I think the whole thing about being a gay republican is a form of self loathing. It reminds me of the character “Uncle Ruckus” on “the Boondocks” to those unfamiliar he is a black man who despises blacks. An extreme parody but this guy seems in that line though. He is a hottie, I’d love to go all over THOSE party lines, lol lol
hf2hvit
I do like his love handles–on the side of his head…