“Citing some recent polls, the Clinton campaign is making this argument to Democratic superdelegates: that Clinton — not Obama — is the most electable Democrat in November.” [MSNBC]
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Alec
Yeah right. Sixty-percent of Americans believe she is a congenital liar.
And Senator Clinton, to the contrary of what her campaign would have us believe, has not been vetted on a variety of things. There’s Marc Rich, a fugitive multimillionaire who was preemptively pardoned by President Clinton after giving her campaign a large contribution. There’s her brother Hugh, who took money to broker pardons. There’s Frank Giustra, who used his ties to President Clinton to secure business deals in Kazakhstan.
Then there are the issues with her self-labeling as an Evita Perone-esque woman of the people: Her early fundraising lead was a result of very strong corporate ties, including ties to the health care industry she so vehemently attacks on the campaign trail. The fact that the Democrats were unable to push through health care reform (and indeed, lost Congress in a landslide in 1994) as a result of her own huge policy failure. There’s her vote for the bankruptcy “reform” bill.
How about all of the Democratic women she attacked as liars, even though her husband would later admit there was truth to at least some of the stories?
Charley
They are saying that because of the afrocentrism fueled by the Doctor Reverend Wright, making right brain excuses of why blacks can’t pass SAT tests. They don’t want Obama appointing any of these people to his cabinet. He won’t of course, calling them ridiculous, but that’s what they think.
Puddy Katz
I think she’s a mess and I hate her personally but I also think she is more electable.
I think Obama is a hot mess, but that’s another story.
Alec
Ha, Puddy. That’s two primaries now where I’ve voted for candidates that I liked and found attractive: Clark and Obama.
Actually I wish Clark had run again. I would have gladly voted for him a second time. I don’t think she is as electable as people think, or as vetted. There are new scandals, and there is a lot of deep resentment among many in the Democratic Party over how they have conducted themselves while in office.
M Shane
I don’t know how , at this point, you could do much of anything to come up with reliable statistics to assert that even if one or the other candidate was the most popular, that the opposition would not pull their votes in the closeout of their opponent.
How anyone would liken her to eva Peron, I can’t imagine, Peron was a genuine democratic socialist.. Clinton is closer to Bush. It is so puzzeling to me that Bill Clinton leid to The american workers re; Nafta and to the popular cause around “welfare reform”, with the support of the Republicans, not democrats. He approved of the butchery in Rwanda. Can someone tell me why Clintonb has the support of white workers? No one trusts her any more than her husband.
The question of whether she is more electable than Obama is mote she may not be much different than McCain.
As far as I can see, if there is a chance of turning the U.S. off the path of destruction, it is with Obama.
Marco Channing
Kerry got the nomination because he was deemed “electable.” That turned out well, didn’t it?
Charley
Whoever gets the nomination, I will vote for him/her against McCain. He would nuke Iran. Short little arrogant bastard. Just because he was captured by the enemy, doesn’t make him a hero, just a victim. He didn’t get a Medal of Honor for bravery.
todd
They knew if they could turn Barak into the ICKY angry black man, they would make him unelectable. Hillary won’t be robbed of her rightful place on the heirarchy! Nothing will stop her quest for power.
Tom
After thinking about the differences between Clinton and Obama and why Obama has such mass appeal, I think its because Clinton does NOT have a soul…she sold it long ago. Whereas, Obama has soul (and I don’t mean in a black power sense). Rather, he seems more genuine and his spirit has connected with people. I think that is because of his background and growing up in places like Hawaii and Indonesia.
Clinton, as Samantha Powers said, is a monster (and I don’t mean in a white devil sense).
Its going to be a tough sell for middle America regardless who the Democrats nominate. The question we should ask is which candidate best reflects our core values, the “monster” or the “soul man”? If you close your eyes and forget about race/color, I think the answer is easy.
Rob Moore
I’m with Charley. From the numerous posts on this and other sites, a lot of nonRepublicans are hellbent on Obama or Clinton being the saviour or the antichrist. I can just imagine Karl Rove rubbing his hands together and chortling with glee.
Charlie UU
My 2 cents
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