So everyone’s pissed at Ellen because she was spotted at a Dallas Cowboys game over the weekend sitting next to George W. Bush. Not only that, but she later admitted that, yes, she’s friends with the former president and, yes, they had a “fun” time together at the game.
Quick! Let’s all write to NBCUniversal and demand she be fired. Better yet, someone call the executioner. (That was hyperbole.)
Yes, that was me at the Cowboys game with George W. Bush over the weekend. Here’s the whole story. pic.twitter.com/AYiwY5gTIS
— Ellen DeGeneres (@TheEllenShow) October 8, 2019
Just to be clear: It wasn’t until very recently that George W. Bush was considered by many to be the worst president in American history. Thanks to Donald J. Trump, however, he’s now been relegated to second worst president in American history. So this is absolutely not a defense of him.
But all this outrage being lodged at Ellen seems a little misguided and, frankly, kinda fake. Because if you’re mad at Ellen for being friends with George W., then you should probably also be mad at former first lady Michelle Obama. After all, she and Georgie have formed a deep and well-documented friendship over the last decade.
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In fact, Town & Country recently did a story about the unlikely pair and all the “heart-warming moments” they’ve shared over the years, like that time he gave her a piece of candy at his father’s funeral, which she graciously accepted. Everyone thought that was really sweet.
A sweet moment on a sad day. ? George W. Bush slipped Michelle Obama a piece of candy during #GeorgeHWBushFuneral, and the Obamas’ reactions were everything. pic.twitter.com/rpCj3A3si1
— Entertainment Tonight (@etnow) December 5, 2018
Last year, Mrs. Obama, a noted LGBTQ ally, famously called George W. “a wonderful man” and said “I love him to death” on the TODAY show.
“President Bush and I, we are forever seatmates because of protocol, and that’s how we sit at all the official functions,” she said. “He’s my partner in crime at every major thing where all the ‘formers’ gather. So we’re together all the time. I love him to death. He’s a wonderful man, he’s a funny man.”
"I think that our relationship reminds us that we can get there," says @MichelleObama on the friendship she has with former President George Bush and why their relationship stands out in this political climate. pic.twitter.com/Use6jbXB8b
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) November 14, 2018
Now, I’m not saying this to make everyone mad at Michelle Obama. I repeat: I am NOT saying this to make everyone mad at Michelle Obama! She doesn’t deserve our ire. She is the Forever First Lady and a shining example of American excellence.
But if we’re able to understand that her friendship with George W. Bush doesn’t define who she is as a person, then why can’t we do the same for Ellen?
Sure, Ellen may be out of touch with the average LGBTQ person. (Having a net worth of $400 million can do that to an individual.) And, yes, she has disappointed us in the past. (Her refusal to comment on longtime BFF Drew Brees’ involvement with Focus on the Family last month year was frustrating.) But most people would agree that she’s not a terrible, awful person with a poisonous heart. In fact, she’s a pretty good role model and an inspiration to many. She’s just flawed, like everyone else.
And she certainly doesn’t deserve to be burned at the stake for sitting next to a dude who doesn’t know how to properly put on a poncho.
The Supreme Court is about to decide whether it should be legal for employers in America to fire people for being LGBTQ and there is a very good chance that they’re going to rule in favor of the homophobes. Surely, that deserves a little more outrage than this.
Let’s save our torches and pitchforks for the fights that actually matter.
Related: Ellen DeGeneres defends “fun” afternoon with “friend” George W. Bush
Kangol2
She’s golden in my book, platinum, really. She is being very polite and gracious towards her husband’s predecessor, and his wife. She may disagree with him on most political points, but she is a classy person who is not going to act out towards a former US president.
In fact, I bet you every former living first lady would behave the same way–even Melania, who spewed Birtherist crap, has been very polite to the Obamas, Bushes and Clintons–but there is only ONE president, soon to be former, who regularly acts like a treasonous, lawless jack@ss towards his predecessors, and will be horrible once he leaves office, and his last name begins with T, ends with a P, and rhymes with Dump!
evanxx
Ellen explained that everyday she closes her show by saying “Be kind to one another”. That doesn’t mean only people who share your views; THAT MEANS EVERYONE!
Maybe being around Ellen will rub off on George and make him a better person.
Cam
@evanxx
Translation: Bigots don’t have to be kind, but everybody else has to be kind to them.
garyrj
I don’t like George Jr., but what the hell is this attacking Ellen for.
So she talked to him, she’s just being friendly.
So people are so bitchy for no good reason
rustyiam
Yae everyone! Big eye roll here!
ChiChi Man
While attacking Ellen for this is too much, but comparing her to Michelle Obama doesn’t make sense. It’s literally Michelle Obama’s job to be nice to former Presidents and their family members. We all expect it and would attack her if she wasn’t nice. Besides, only 10 people on the planet know what it’s like to be POTUS and FLOTUS. It makes sense that they all talk – well 8 of them do.
Ellen, on the other hand, has no “reason” to be friends with GW so she must want to be. They’re both charming, super rich and live in a little bubble. I mean Ellen buys homes for fun. Who does that?
Cazin
It was not, and is not, Michelle Obama’s job to be friends with and publicly snuggle and fawn over any former President. One does not see her smooching all over Clinton or Carter and talking about her deep friendship with either of them. Yes, it was expected as First Lady that she would be civil to a former President, and that is it.
As for Ellen, does anyone with even half a brain cell believe that an extremely busy Hollywood celebrity who spends most of her time hosting a day time talk show, keeping up with the latest trends, and running a media empire in LA is truly “friends” with an old, retired conservative former President who lives in Texas? No. Right or wrong, she simply believes in being polite and kind to others and she uses the term “friends” to describe pretty much anyone who is not openly hostile to her. She has shown that her kindness does have its limits, and she will not tolerate someone openly opposed to her or the LGBTQ community–Kim Burrell learned that lesson.
Brian
She said “I love him to death”. That is not just being polite, that is a genuine relationship.
And Ellen doesn’t need a reason to be friends with him, or anyone else. Isn’t freedom wonderful?
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Agree with Graham (for once). Currently there is a case before the SCOTUS which would grant employers the right to terminate an employee for the sole reason of being Gay. Under the vile guise of “religious freedom” (those abhorrent smcubags will have some ‘splainin to do when they stand before Jesus and explain how they prefaced religious into discrimination bigotry and hatred) we need to save the pitchforks and torches for actual persons now seeking to deny us equality….
Aires the Ram
@PlaysWell: Nobody is NOW “deciding” whether or not it’s legal to discriminate against homosexuals in the workplace & public accommodation. It’s been legal to do so, STILL, in over 30 states. So don’t turn this around and falsely accuse Trump of legalizing discrimination against homosexuals. It’s been going on for decades upon decades. These things need to change at the STATE level. Because they have not, is the reason this is before the Supreme Court, just as equal marriage was. Get your facts straight.
Cam
@Aires the Ram
In other words, you are desperately trying to cover for bigots by claiming the Federal government doesn’t have the right to enforce anti-Bigotry laws.
Funny, because that’s exactly what the federal government can do. But it isn’t a surprise that a right wing troll would be trumpeting “States Rights” which was the rallying cry of the confederacy.
arj
I’m not.
dhmonarch89
maybe because Michelle’s not gay and Bush’s anti gay proposals, laws and campaigning should keep ANY LGBTQ person away from him. Ellen’s more a famous rich person than a lesbian these days.
Hussain-TheCanadian
George W Bush is a war criminal, and if Barak Obama had any principles, he would of put the entire Bush administration on trial for war crimes.
The real reason Americans should be disgusted with Ellen, Michelle or anyone else being “polite” to George Bush is because he committed war crimes in their name.
jrex100
Well said. While it no longer surprises me, I still find it very disheartening that most Americans have forgotten that George Bush is a war criminal; that he endorsed the interrogation method known as waterboarding–which is widely regarded in most parts of the world as a form of torture–that he was never an LGBTQ+ ally; quite the contrary, his vocal support and behind the scenes campaigning helped secure Kavanaugh’s elevation to the Supreme Court. Ellen’s baseball outing with Bush reminds me of Jimmy Kimmel’s playful ruffling of Trumps hair last year: Ill-considered attempts at humanizing monsters. I think
@dhmonarch89’s observation that “Ellen’s more a famous rich person than a lesbian these days” quite nicely sums up this particular stage of Ellen’s “journey.”
lord.krath
Precisely. Just a few days ago people had forgotten about GWB with the mess of a nightmare a Trump has been. Now Ellen makes a mistake shouldn’t even have to explain and then explains it…. what about Michelle? What about the Clintons?
JessPH
Michelle Obama is NOT gay. She can marry whoever man she wants. GWB wanted to ban gay people like Ellen from marrying their partners. That’s why it’s infuriating that one of the most influential gay personalities wanted to be friends with him.
Aires the Ram
So, GW is a “war criminal”, ok, what about that shrink-wrapped pallet of 400 Billion dollars that Obama gave to our and Israels sworn enemy, Iran, just before leaving office. And if you want to talk about “war criminals”, we mustn’t leave out the “missing” treasonous emails, and let’s not forget Bengazi. A little memory refreshment is often needed on here.
Cam
It’s adorable when a right wing troll account tries “Whataboutism” and actually uses the words “What About” lol
Oh, and precious, Obama didn’t give Iran U.S. money, he simply unfroze money that was already Iran’s in return for their agreement to not produce large amounts of fissionable. You know, exactly what they are doing now since Trump backed us out. But it’s cute when you have to lie to deflect attention off the fact that Bush tried to pass a Constitutional amendment outlawing LGBT marriage. Because, that’s what you do….you defend people who attack LGBT people.
Yooper
Everyone’s not pissed at Ellen, only those making something out of nothing.
PolishBear
I was not a big fan of George W. Bush during his Presidency. I called him “President Cowboy.” But I have to admit, after three years of the current buffoon occupying the White House, I have come to view Bush rather fondly. At least he know how to ACT like a President.
jjose712
Sorry, but not the same thing at all.
Michelle Obama is a first lady so i assume he knew George W Bush in that context, and it’s good to have a good relationship with former presidents.
Ellen made a career about being gay, but she is friends with a lot of homophobes (as long as they are rich the homophobia is not a problem), she even promoted Kevin Hart and lie for him (he never apologized or acknolegded what was wrong with what he said). Then there’s the football player promoting focus on the family.
This is just the nail on the coffin.
Bush maybe it’s not an homophobe himself, but he did real damage, and his campaign was heavily pushed on antigay sentiments
Roan
Not even close to the same thing. MO is being gracious to a person she has to encounter at funerals and occasional official functions. She’s not socializing with him or going to football games together. If Ellen ran into GW in the VIP suite, exchanged a few pleasantries but then spent the rest of game away from him, we might have a comparison with MO.
Brian
And how do you compare Ellen saying she believes in being kind to everyone vs Michelle saying that he’s a wonderful man that she loves to death?
Roan
@Brian- It’s hyperbole. She’s just making an exaggerated statement based on her graciousness and class. As the former First Lady, she certainly can’t come out and attack him. However, this Obama deflection has nothing to do with Ellen. They’re different people with different expectations.
Brian
If it was just hyperbole, we’d have heard her say similar things about Trump, which she most definitely hasn’t. It’s obvious that she has affection toward the guy, sorry your closed mind can’t handle that.
Roan
@Brian Bless your heart.
Cam
“”But all this outrage being lodged at Ellen seems a little misguided and, frankly, kinda fake. Because if you’re mad at Ellen for being friends with George W., then you should probably also be mad at former first lady Michelle Obama.””
Except that this is a completely false equivalence.
Did George Bush try to pass a constitutional amendment making Michelle Obama’s marriage illegal? Did Bush run for office on a platform of specifically taking away black people’s civil rights?
No. Ellen is part of the group that Bush and his campaign targeted over and over, additionally Ellen KNOWS she is seen as a representative of that group.
This is a desperate right wing smoke screen to try to keep pushing the lie that hate, bigotry, racism, and abuse are simple “Differences of opinion”.
truthseeker
@Cam
So Michelle Obama should only care if it effects her. Got it
Cam
@truthseeker Someboy’s scared.
You can tell which topic really terrify the right wing, anti-LGBT troll accounts.
The situation where bigots are actually called out and made to face consequences for their bigotry, like Bush enrages and terrifies them. The reason the republican Party has gotten away with it is because they’ve been able to hide racism and bigotry behind words like “different opinions”. That is crumbling.
truthseeker
@Cam
Scared of what?
I’m wondering why you give Michelle Obama a pass when she said about her friendship with George Bush that she “loves him to death”
You went on a tirade about Ellen a few days ago but why not on Michelle? Even after the Iraq war, Bush’s treatment of gays, and Katrina, Michelle loves him. You’re only justification is because she’s not gay HAHA.
You should get a gold medal in mental gymnastics
Brian
I’m actually shocked that Queerty ran this article. Usually their POV is right along with many of the commenters here, which is “here’s why it’s perfectly ok for the person who shares my beliefs to do the exact same thing as the person I’m crucifying”. At least Graham is pointing out the extra absurdity of doing it to 2 people from the same side.
Of course there’s also the Michelle Obama factor. She could admit to being the Zodiac Killer and raises puppies that she sells for meat and there would still be a huge group of people defending her.
Roan
You seem triggered and focused on your Michelle Obama agenda more than the actual issue at hand. Perhaps you should step back and have a few seats until you can control yourself.
Brian
The article is literally about Michelle Obama, genius. It’s not a stretch for my comments to be about her.
Roan
Calm down. You’re hysterical.
Polaro
Ellen is a class act, just like Michelle Obama.
jkb
We’re pissed at her too. He’s still a war criminal
James
WHAT A STUPID NOTHING ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A USELESS QUEEN.
Ronbo
Birds of a feather….
Her husband signed over 600 executive orders; but, not a single one to help GLBT people. When he denigrated us as ungodly saying we don’t deserve equality in HIS military or even the right to marry, with “God is in the mix,” what did Michelle say? Crickets…. Obama and Bush are more alike than different.