“Intolerance. Hatred. Bigotry. Oppression. Violation of human rights. Religious extremism. Evil,” Matt Moore, the ex-gay blogger with a Grindr profile, writes in a new op-ed published by The Christian Post. “These are words that I see used by Americans, both gay and straight, to describe the Church’s stance on sexuality.”
“But I’d like you to step back for a second and consider what is happening across the pond in a land far, far away, to people like you,” Moore writes.
The “land far, far away” he’s referring to is Mosul, Iraq. And the incident he’s alluding to happened late last month when members from the Islamic State terrorist group, also known as ISIS, released disturbing images showing a man suspected of being gay being thrown from a seven floor building, surviving the fall, then being stoned to death as he lay helpless on the ground.
“This…..” Moore writes, “this is intolerance. This is hatred. This is bigotry. This is oppression. This is violation of human rights. This is religious extremism. This is evil.”
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Moore is right about one thing. It certainly is evil. Unfortunately, this is the one and only coherent point he makes in his entire blog post before descending into complete and utter madness:
“The message of the gospel, the message that saturates this blog and the words of so many people out there that you might think are being hateful toward you, is not a message of ‘adhere to our belief system or we are going to throw you off of a roof,'” Moore explains. “If that’s what we were saying, you would have every right to be disgusted with us. You would have every right to slam us. You would have every right to try to shut us down. But thankfully, that’s not what we’re saying. Not even close.”
Matt, if you’re reading, no one is afraid you’re going to throw them off a roof. And, honestly, we don’t care if you hate us or not either. Just don’t impede upon our civil rights or force your Christian fundamentalist beliefs down our throats. That’s all we’re asking.
“Disagree with us if you wish — that’s your prerogative,” Moore writes. “We’re not going to throw you off a roof for it. Step back and look at the world and re-evaluate your definitions of love and hate. What ISIS is doing is what real hatred looks like.”
Again, Matt, if you’re reading, if you want to see what real hatred looks like, take a glimpse in a mirror. And leave the innocent man who was murdered by ISIS terrorists out of this.
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sectbrawn
Pretty low bar for him to hop over. And trust me, these Christian freaks would be exactly like ISIS if there were a power vacuum in this country like there is in the middle east.
Ladbrook
Moore conveniently forgets that the very mag for which he writes has recently called for criminalizing homosexuality in the US on multiple occasions. He also conveniently forgets that several of his allies (Brian Brown, Tony Perkins, Pete LaBarbera, Bryan Fischer, etc) have openly praised Russia’s crackdown on the LGBT community, and has a long history of assisting several African nations with crafting policies/laws designed to strip basic freedoms from their LGBT community (including the death penalty and life sentences).
As another reader commented, Moore’s friends would love to treat gays and lesbians as criminals. They don’t because they can’t… not because choose not to.
dommyluc
Hey, Matt Moore! Guess what, you braindead motherfucker. Unlike your moronic, idiotic self, I can do TWO things at once, which means I can despise both you AND ISIS. Ain’t human intelligence grand?! Try it sometimes.
And I will say this to these reprehensible motherfuckers one more time: I do not BEG for my rights. I DEMAND my rights, and if you or any other stupid jagoffs like you get in my way, you WILL go down, and no GOD of any religion will save you.
GreatGatsby2011
“Disagree with us if you wish — that’s your prerogative,” Moore writes. “We’re not going to throw you off a roof for it.”
YET.
Religious fundamentalism has this nasty tendency to evolve (or rather devolve).
polarisfashion
These so called Christians hate it when we call them out on their past transgressions. They say things like the witch trials were over 300 years ago so that doesn’t really count. Okay, how about something a little note recent like trying to block civil rights movements back in the 50’s and 60’s. These so called Christians have always been on the wrong side of history every single time. After they lose this battle against gay rights, I wonder what they will try to discriminate against next? They hate women’s rights, worker’s rights, public education, minority rights, gay rights. If they finally got there way, I’ll bet they would find away to discriminate each other!
Cam
So his selling point is that so far they haven’t thrown gays off of buildings?
Well what about them pushing for laws that outlaw protecting gays from bullying? Or criminalizing homosexual sex? Or passing laws that gays can’t enter in to contracts, or write wills leaving property to a partner, much less a spouse?
Look, if they could get away with it, they would toss gays off the roof, since they can’t, they want to outlaw the very existence of LGBT’s.
TomOH
That’s like saying “at least we’ll throw you off a building instead of burning you alive” – he needs to go fuck off.
NoCagada
He needs to be killed
enlightenone
@dommyluc: “I do not BEG for my rights. I DEMAND my rights, and if you or any other stupid jagoffs like you get in my way, you WILL go down, and no GOD of any religion will save you.”
Constructive use of testosterone!
enlightenone
@Cam: “…they want to outlaw the very existence of LGBT’s.”
But they can’t because they would be included!
KM201
Some of these ex-gay nut jobs are ISIS sympathizers, so don’t take this is as anything more than a threat to our livelihoods and lives.
BJ McFrisky
Yes, Muslims are more violent than Christians when it comes to killing gays, and anyone who doesn’t recognize this is only deluding themselves by viewing the world through race-colored glasses. Queerty’s attempts to deflect this atrocity by claiming Christians are the biggest threat to us is laughable, considering their outrage at Russia’s human rights violations last year, but not Islam’s this year.
@NoCagada: Since you support killing this man for having an opinion, I must conclude that “NoCagada” is your ISIS name. Hope that serves you well when they chop off your dick and throw you off a rooftop.
(Note – The left doesn’t take kindly to threats of death or violence — they’re the party of pacifism, after all — so don’t be surprised if they revoke your Card)
@KM201: Reality check: The only ISIS sympathizers are lefties, not ex-gays. Deal with facts instead of feelings, son, and you’ll go far.
Kathukid
So he’s basically saying that Christian homophobes are just like ISIS.
AlliterationAddict
That’s like saying that people shouldn’t have been opposing segregation and Jim Crow because across the Atlantic the Nazis were committing genocide.
onthemark
@BJ McFrisky: Okay, BJ, got your point, and here’s a challenge. You are always bringing up climate change here (for no other reason than to deny that it’s man-made) and you insist that any liberals concerned about it must stop using electricity and gasoline ENTIRELY (!!!) or else they are hypocrites.
In the same spirit, I insist that you must go to Syria and/or Iraq to fight ISIS personally.
Yeah, I realize you’re no kid anymore, but don’t be a hypocrite! Don’t demand that younger gay people than you do the dirty work. Just go over there and fight them, or you’re a hypocrite!
jwtraveler
@NoCagada: NO!
BJ McFrisky
@onthemark: Wow, that’s the most fucked-up rationalization I’ve ever heard. If you can explain the relevance of global warming hypocrisy with me objecting to ISIS killing innocent gay men, then I’ll entertain a response.
And yes, people who use gasoline but insist others stop driving are indeed hypocrites.
jwtraveler
@AlliterationAddict: I was thinking of the Japanese-Americans forced into internment camps, but your analogy works as well.
onthemark
@BJ McFrisky: “If you can explain the relevance of global warming”…
Exactly – there IS no relevance (on a gay site anyway) and yet you keep bringing it up over & over & over.
Stop being a weenie, BJ, grow some nuts. By your own “logic,” you’re a hypocrite!
Avery Alvarez
But isn’t it true, even when just looking at America alone, that Christians have murdered GLBT people in cruel and unusual ways?
Maybe not throwing them off a roof, but beating gays to death, stomping their faces in, setting them on fire, tying them to a fence then leaving them for dead, murder by blunt force to the head, murder by strangling, drowning, murder by gunfire, and a variety of other heavily violent ways?
As a gay man, would I rather be thrown off a roof, or beaten till my insides are liquefied? That’s really the only difference between fundamental muslim and fundamental christian.
Also, as someone above pointed out, it’s not that radical christians wouldn’t love the chance to form a group like Isis, it’s that the super american surveillance system prevents them from ever getting organzied to that point. In other words, they would if they could. They can’t but they’ll still try.
Cam
@BJ McFrisky:
And once again, BJ will use ANY tactic to defend anti-gay bigots. His tactic here is to divert the discussion onto Muslims.
Funny thing is though, it isn’t Islamic Clerics attacking us in the U.S. it is right wing Christians passing laws against us.
So keep trying to defend every anti-gay bigot as per usual, but it’s just sad at this point. Your own self hatred is more inflamed than Paris Hilton’s crotch after a particularly bad Herpes outbreak.
AtticusBennett
@Cam: BJ exists to troll. Why? Let’s remember what trolls are – unloved, unimpressive, boring, lacking charisma, and they’re almost always as homely as hell.
Matt Moore thinks he’s loving, compared to ISIS? Well, his family are pond-scum compared to my family, so yay for comparisons!
Terry
“At least we’re not ISIS” well, that’s because while you CAN’T be ISIS, you sure want to be. Have you listened to the rhetoric of Pat Robertson and Bryan Fischer, Tony Perkins & Linda Harvey?
You want to be ISIS, you just don’t have the stomach for it
DarkZephyr
@BJ McFrisky: ISIS is certainly more violent than most Christians, even the homophobic ones, I firmly agree. But that doesn’t mean that we should be OK with the bigotry of homophobic Christians, don’t you agree?
Also “@KM201: Reality check: The only ISIS sympathizers are lefties, not ex-gays. Deal with facts instead of feelings, son, and you’ll go far.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD4Ps9t4zb4&feature=youtu.be
Is this guy a “leftie”? Look BJ McFrisky, in MY opinion the biggest difference between ISIS and Christan groups like Manning’s is place of authoritative power, location, numbers and legality. If Manning and his people could get away with it, they WOULD kill LGBT people in the name of Christianity because that is what they firmly *believe* is the right thing to do. He freely admits this and has put posts to this effect on his Church sign. ISIS is a fringe group. So is Manning’s Church. But Manning is *not* the only Christian leader out there like this. So like I said. Place of power, location, legality and numbers. ONLY difference.
Ogre Magi
Saying that you are better behaved than muslims isn’t exactly setting the bar very high
enlightenone
@Terry: “You want to be ISIS, you just don’t have the stomach for it.”
And Lindsay Ham would be eaten alive within 5 mins in the desert unless it was Las Vegas!
fredhotman
“We” Christians have the ideas as ISIS regarding gays. Take the word “faggot”a green branch. These branches were used by the Catholic Churches to burn gays alive in the Middle Ages. Hence the use of faggots for gays burning. Christian churches were not squimish in inflicting untold torture and pain to get their way. Read about the Churches rules & punishment until the 18 Century ,it may enlighten you about religious wanton cruelty .Religion has nothing to do with God the creator & compassionate & if you view & read about religion it is exclusively about extreme power & untrammelled manifestation of that power in a negative to sustain the power of the religious power holder. Even in modern times churches show very little kindness or compassion . The pulpits in Churches & Mosques preach only hatred for those who do not submit to their dogma.
martinbakman
What really gets me about X-tians is how, when some gay dude is tossed off of a 7 story building in Irag, they always begin with ‘while I can’t condone his homosexual lifestyle…’.
F*ck that you vile hypocrites.
aequalitasTN
@DarkZephyr: You are EXACTLY right!
BJ McFrisky
@DarkZephyr: I never defended the actions of fundamental Christians who hate us, Zeph, I was simply pointing out that Islam is a bigger worldwide threat to us than is Christianity. My personal experience has always been that Jesus-freaks are more accepting of my homosexuality than liberals are of my Libertarian views. Perhaps this helps explain why I don’t find Christianity a threat but do worry about our brethren in the rest of the world who face death by barbarianism for simply existing.
enfilmigult
@BJ McFrisky: “Queerty’s attempts to deflect this atrocity by claiming Christians are the biggest threat to us is laughable…” …and written in invisible ink apparently because I’m not seeing that part. Where did they do that?
AtticusBennett
@BJ McFrisky: ” My personal experience has always been that Jesus-freaks are more accepting of my homosexuality than liberals are of my Libertarian views.”
prove it. i call your bluff. blog. make a video. let’s see you and your awesome family and your awesome gay self and how amazing you have been at getting Jesus Freaks to accept you.
haha.. you won’t be able to, of course. lying wimps who can’t back up their claims – Troll 101.
BJ McFrisky
@AtticusBennett:
Sorry but, unlike some narcissists, I’m not in the habit of making videos of myself and posting them online. (ahem)
And your proposal of videoing people telling me how amazing I am is just . . . bizarre beyond words.
Tip: Think of butterflies, waterfalls, unicorns, rainbows — anything that might help with those anger flare-ups. Read a book. Ride a bike. You’ll feel better.
BJ out.
onthemark
@BJ McFrisky: LOL – aw come on BJ, I bet you could do it a cut above the North Korea propaganda ministry style where Atticus, crusader against self-hating homophobia, stares grimly into the camera for 7 minutes snarling about how much he hates this or that group of gay men… ah the irony, ha ha ha ha ha. (These millennial douchebags are hilarious.)
Seriously – I’m taking up a collection to equip & send you to Syria to fight ISIS. The BJ Expeditionary Force! What kind of uniform would you like? I was imagining a fab desert-camo version of late ’80s Michael Jackson, but it’s up to you!
AtticusBennett
@BJ McFrisky: i know. then everyone would know what a homely, unloved, unimpressive and uncharismatic dullard you are. plus, it would make your dad even more ashamed of you than usual.
i’m just here. to remind you. that you are a failure.
UlfRaynor
Where do I begin Matt…
If you only involved yourself in your self loathing and lived your life of self denial and chastity in your quest to find acceptance in the arms of a God that we are told endlessly will never accept us because of who we are, then I would have no problem with you and those like you *choosing* to do so.
But you don’t Matt, you and unconscionable people like you, constantly try to draw others into your hateful, self loathing world, bombarding them with Christian intolerance…you and people like you prey upon innocent gay children, convincing them they are vile and disgusting, inferior subhumans and if they don’t reject their homosexuality, they will burn in eternal hell fire.
“Intolerance. Hatred. Bigotry. Oppression. Violation of human rights. Religious extremism. Evil.” is exactly what befits you and your ilk.
Just turn on your TV news and watch as so called Christian after Christian try desperately to deny us even the most basic human rights.
Perhaps your not as open in your ability to murder gay people, but that’s only because our secular laws prevent your religious cult from doing so.
History is rife with the murderous intent of Christians toward homosexuals..it is only recently and I do mean recently, that the smallest glimmer of social justice and equality is evolving people who are fed up with your hateful views of their gay friends and relatives.
But we are still fighting people like you, we are still being beaten, oppressed and murdered by Christians…and your closing statement of: “at the end of the day, we don’t hate you” is a lie, a hideous deception…forced, damaging reparative therapy, the inhumane psychological and physical torture of gay youth, odious Christian parents, who kick scared, frightened helpless gay children out of their homes into a world they are not equipped to handle…leading them to fend for themselves in horrific ways and in many of these cases, to their death, by either their own hand or by a Christian society unwilling to help them, for no other reason than because they are gay …and why Matt, WHY?
To appease your hateful version of Jesus?
My real question to you Matt and all other Christians who believe as you do….how much gay blood will it take to appease you and your hateful God…how deep will it have to flow for you and your kind to realize that what you believe destroys lives or caused them to be destroyed?
You and your murderous cults hands are red with the blood of gay men, women and children.
No, your not like ISIS, you are ISIS.
enlightenone
“My real question to you Matt and all other Christians who believe as you do….how much gay blood will it take to appease you and your hateful God…how deep will it have to flow for you and your kind to realize that what you believe destroys lives or caused them to be destroyed?”
And you thoughts on all things “I am Michael?”
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
Anyone wanna take bets on how many times this “straight Ex-Gay” has a d*ck up his arse each month???
enlightenone
@PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS: “Anyone wanna take bets on how many times this “straight Ex-Gay” has a d*ck up his arse each month???
And/or a sex toy!
Vartan X.
Unfortunately, many members of the gay community are brainwashed into believing that the murder of gays by Muslim radicals is not as bad as opposition to gay marriage by Christian radicals. Given the history of persecution of gays by Christians, I wouldn’t doubt that there are radical elements among Christians who would like to re-institute a policy of persecution, but claiming that an average Christian is an equivalent of ISIS terrorists or maybe worse than ISIS is just ridiculous. American LGBT folks don’t even realize how good they have it here in America. I am originally from Russia, which is in fact not very different from Muslims in their treatment of gays, so I know what the hell I am talking about.