The Log Cabin Republicans must have felt bad about Mitt Romney tanking at last’s night debate: This morning, after months of stalling, the gay GOP groups finally gave Romney a “qualified endorsement.”
GOProud, the other leading gay conservative cabal, rushed to endorse Mitt some months ago, but there was speculation LCR might stay silent during this campaign. Log Cabin has only withheld endorsing a Republican presidential candidate twice—once in 1992 when it snubbed George H.W. Bush, and again in 2004 when it passed on giving George W. Bush the thumbs up because of his support for a federal gay-marriage ban.
While the organization claims it understands the importance of gay rights, LCR leaders says their siding with Romney because it sees the economy as the most pressing issue in the election:
We believe that President Obama has broken his promises to our country. Rather than focusing on job creation, he pushed through an extremely partisan, expensive and intrusive healthcare bill, presided over a United States credit downgrade, and has made no credible attempt to cut spending as our national debt has topped $16 trillion. Our nation is in a financial crisis, and we are in desperate need of a change in course.
If LGBT issues are a voter’s highest or only priority, then Governor Romney may not be that voter’s choice. However, Log Cabin Republicans is an organization representing multifaceted individuals with diverse priorities. Having closely reviewed the candidate’s history and observed the campaign, we believe Governor Romney will make cutting spending and job creation his priorities, and, as his record as Governor of Massachusetts suggests, will not waste his precious time in office with legislative attacks on LGBT Americans.
Tellingly, the endorsement dismisses a pledge from the National Organization of Marriage that Romney signed as “merely symbolic.” But politicians who take that pledge endorse passing a federal marriage amendment, reaffirming the Defense of Marriage Act, nominating anti-equality judges and creating a presidential commission on religious liberty.
Sounds a little more than symbolic.
marc sfe
Why endorse a candidate who would deny you equal rights? Why endorse a candidate who cannot spell out his tax plan in clear concise points? Why endorse a candidate who would deny women contraception and abortion? Why endorse a candidate who had a foreign “policy” vacation that pissed off some of our strong allies? Why endorse a candidate who has flip flopped on issues more than a big mouth bass on a dock on a stringer? These are questions I’d like to ask these moe-rons. (imagine Reba when reading moe-rons)
SteveBmke
Gay Republicans are the same as Jewish Nazi’s. You may be blonde & blue eyed…but
eventually they will take your Rights and would rather see you dead. Harsh yes. True also yes. That is what you get when you vote for money instead of happiness and the
pursuit of it. You are Jewish by Choice..Gay by Genetics! Stop hating yourself and vote for your rights!
Dumdum
I am beginning to doubt as to whether or not these Gay Republicans are really Gay. Or they should just stuff their materialistic mommy daddy issues and join a convent or monastery or something and jump the queer ship. Or if you really want to fit in marry some fat ugly girl and live a sham marriage like all the other closet cases.
Eric Auerbach
Well, they got the “cabin” part of their name right. Fucking Uncle Toms.
2eo
@SteveBmke: It isn’t harsh at all, the comparison is completely and absolutely valid.
These self loathing, hateful monsters know better yet they support these imbeciles, and endorse them constantly.
Solely so they’ll be lynched last, and literally no other reason, because there isn’t any valid reasons.
trelin
…and to this endorsement, Romney probably went “egh…those fags. I’m still taking away your rights…”
Cam
Log Cabin’s intention wasn’t to give Romney “Faint Praise”.
What happened was, they’ve been scrambling the past few months because they are in shock at how much backlash they got and how many menbers stopped donating when they attacked Obama for coming out in favor of gay marriage, for signing the repeal of DADT, and for not going after the GOP for it’s gay baiting but rather for trying to cover for them.
A lot of their membership has pulled away. Their leader, Clark Cooper, always had every intention of endorsing Romney, remember, this is the guy who cheered the defeat of Iraq War Vet Congressman Patrick Murphy, the guy who introduced the DADT repeal. Clark and Log Cabin endorsed his non-gay friendly opponent.
They have just been delaying their endorsement of Romney as long as possible because they are trying to avoid attention and more backlash all the while trying to stay in good with the GOP.
They are not a gay group, they are a group who now sees it’s job as covering up the bigotry of the GOP.
John Doe
I can’t imagine myself EVER voting for a candidate that would favor discrimination. Oh, except for all of the Democrats I’ve voted for over the past 20 years including Obama. He still favors sending the “marriage issue” to the states for them to decide. Well, that is better than Romney for sure. But, I’m also not a single-issue voter and the USA is far more complex than just LGBT issues. In the end Romney won’t be getting my vote. But, I also see the larger picture and I support the Log Cabin Republicans in being aware of this fact. Now, if they’re just going to vote the party line every time then this is just getting stupid. But, at the same time they’re also trying to get Republicans to be LGBT friendly. If it weren’t for some Republican LGBT groups we wouldn’t be where we are today when it comes to DADT and my state quite possibly wouldn’t have marriage equality. We had several Republicans vote for marriage equality and yet my state still has many anti-equality Democrats. So, everything isn’t 100% black and white if we look at the big picture.
hf2hvit
“the gay GOP groups finally gave Romney a “qualified endorsement.” ”
They aren’t qualified for anything but the gas showers awaiting them
LaTeesha
I don’t judge LogCabin Republicans or GOProud. Some adults are simply desperate to win the love and approval of parents who will never love and approve of them. Sad and pathetic. I feel sorry for these gay people. It must be hard to be them.
Dumdum
@Cam: Thank you Cam. Your comments are always informative and I can always look to you as the intelligent voice of reason. Thanks Buddy. You are the cat’s pajamas. aka Really Cool.
Cam
@John Doe:
The problem is, the Log Cabin Republicans aren’t aware of that fact. They lied and said that John McCain was not opposed to gay adoptions because he did NOT vote for a bill in the AZ legislature. They left out the part that since he isn’t in the state house of AZ he couldn’t have voted for it, and they also left out the part where he appeared in several ads AGAINST gays adopting.
They attacked Obama when he came out in favor of gay marriage. They attacked the Dems for passing the DADT repeal, and they cheered the defeat of Rep Patrick Murphy, the Iraq War vet who introduced the DADT repeal.
So yes, there are a few GOP state reps in places like NY who have voted to support gay rights, but Log Cabin isn’t interested in being an advocate for gays. They currently, under the present leadership see it as their duty to hide the GOP’s bigotry.
It wasn’t always the case, under previous leadership they were a group with integrity.
jack512
It is sad to see the members of GoProud and Log Cabin willing to accept the crumbs that fall from the rich man’s table.
Little-Kiwi
You have to understand that for these poor (i mean moneyed) white boys being a homosexual makes them the shame of their families. Voting GOP is the only thing that they can do in order to be offered the tiniest pithy level of Tolerance.
not love, not acceptance. tolerance.
pity them.
you’ll note the cowards pretend that “marriage” is the only anti-gay aspect to the Romney/Ryan platform. That is willfully ignorant. It’s so much more than that. They have to lie to themselves because the truth hurts too much.
the larger issue, of course, is that the GOP’s fiscal and healthcare related plans will screw over the vast majority of Americans. that’s why they run on anti-gay policies – to get stupid bigots to vote against their own best interests.
fun fact – Democrats are not “single issue voters” – Republicans are. and that single issue is Bigotry.
sorry to burst the bubbles of the apologists.
BJ McFrisky
Wait a minute, wait a minute . . . I always thought liberals were compassionate toward everyone, and conservatives were evil by nature, but judging by the comments made here, it looks like the libs are full of a whole lot of misdirected anger and hatred. (and yet again, you guys force me to be the voice of reason around here)
Little-Kiwi
put a face to your comments, BJ. Ten bucks says you can’t.
Right. How dare these Liberals direct their anger toward …..a group of cowardly gays who are supporting the promotion of anti-gay discrimination across America.
Yeah. All that hatred. Toward those condoning and supporting…. institutionalized prejudice and bigotry.
i get it, wimp. you need to pretend liberals are the problem because you can’t point to a single Republican family member who supports you as a gay man. it’s ok. we liberals and our families will continue to do all the work your own family never ever will.
you’re welcome. 😉
Little-Kiwi
http://youtu.be/hrv31BCGeqY
Little-Kiwi
oh, i understand your confusion BJ – you think being a liberal means being a pacifist. Nope.
We don’t tolerate intolerance, bigotry, prejudice and discrimination. Nor the ongoing persecution of historically-persecuted minority groups.
Liberals are marked by compassion – it’s a mindset of listening to others and their concerns and caring about them and their rights. Conservatives are marked by not caring about ______, until one day they find out it directly affects them.
So, i see why you’re confused. The LCR support the prejudice and bigotry of the Romney/Ryan team, and compassionate liberals are justifiably disgusted by it.
you will know us liberals by the strength of our spines and the heft of our balls 😀
tdgaustin
crumbs…accepting crumbs from people that hate you…wow…
AxelDC
President Obama is the first US President to endorse gay marriage; Romney has made it clear that he wants gay marriage banned in the Constitution forever. Since Log Cabin is opposing a President who wants to advance gay rights in favor of one who opposes them, Log Cabin is now officially an antigay organization.
As for their economic arguments, I’ve yet to hear Log Cabin make a cogent case for why the party of George W. Bush should ever be considered economically responsible.
gsingjane
I was at a political forum a while ago, attended by the heads of the State Democratic and Republican parties. And the Republican representative had a good point: he said, you know, the Democrats are going to promise you the moon and the stars, but at the end of the day, if they don’t deliver, you’ll never punish them. You’ll always vote Democratic no matter what they do – it’s easy for them to make you promises because they know there’s no downside if they don’t do what they say they will.
But although that’s a valid point, to me it still doesn’t seem worth it to vote for the party (Republican) that says right up front it’s going to hurt you. Now if the Republicans also made promises to help the GLBT community, then it might be a question of who you thought would be better positioned to follow through. And, you could punish someone who broke his promises the next time, by not voting for him and switching parties.
The big problem as I see it is that the Republican party still openly and proudly proclaims that it will do everything possible to hurt GLBT people and their families. Perhaps the day will come in our lifetime when both parties promise to help our group (as politicians always promise to help the elderly, children, the military) and then we’ll have a real choice. But we don’t have one now.
Cam
@BJ McFrisky:
The sad lament of the gay republican.
Notice that he can’t defend ANY of the stances of the party….he just cries and plays the victim.
Boo Hoo, the evil democrats are being mean to me.
BJ, lets hear your take on Romney going before Congress to advocate for an anti-gay amendment. Lets hear your take on Romney saying he would NOT have signed the DADT repeal. Lets hear your take on Ryan standing before an anti-gay group and saying he would fight against gay rights.
Oh, thats right, you Log Cabiners will never defend those…you just try to distract from the conversation with inane comments. ANYTHING to avoid the actual topic.
Dumdum
I am so sorry to say this. But I feel that I must. I am not playing the pity card. My Nana Survived the death camps. She said. “I love my little nellie boy.” There has never been so much sweetness in this world since this boy. Oy. He is so cute! Why would anyone say these things? Others said OH NO this is not a good thing? But God said, Yes, this is a good thing. He is sweet and good and kind, how can god not love this boy? Well he must. Did he do a bad thing? Did he hurt someone? Did he lie or steal? NO! Then he is just in the eyes of god. How can we not love this child? And they did. Because there was nothing in his heart but love. Love for all, Thank you. Nana, Even after Hitler. You gave me love. Zuriel Epstein.
Pix
I have a handful of moderate Republican friends, all straight, and even they’re rebelling against the theocratic swing they’ve witnessed in their party since 2010 with antipathy toward gays & women turned into an outright metaphorical war and thus aren’t voting Republican this year. One even said he was voting Obama as a vote against Romney (and to send a message the Republicans need to stop with the religious agenda, plus he sees Obama as a moderate conservative anyway). They also were displeased as things like cheering the idea of someone without insurance being allowed to die (to support the principle is one thing, but to CHEER was, to them, sick & wrong).
So if my straight Republican friends can see Romney is no good and find his strong opposition to gays offensive (or at least stupid when, to them, there are real problems to worry about), then why can’t the gay Republicans?
BJ McFrisky
@Cam: Cammy, Cammy, Cammy, what to do with you? You make all kinds of assumptions about me just to appease your radical ideology, when you’re so off base. I’m not a Log Cabin Republican—I’m not even a Republican. And I also challenge you to the claim that Romney wants an “anti-gay amendment” to the constitution, since he’s never made such a statement, only that he’ll defend marriage as a hetero union. Same with Ryan: Show me where he’s stated that gays are evil and need to be eradicated from the planet. Do you honestly believe that being against gay marriage is the same as being anti-gay? If so, it’s no wonder you believe conservatives want you dead, because that’s just flat-out extreme paranoia.
Dumdum
@BJ McFrisky: More like the voice of no reason. Or the whiny voice of a little baby. The liberals are so mean, the liberals want equal rights. I pay too much taxes. I work so hard for my money and the big bad government wants to take it all away from me and give it to poor people, Boo hoo hoo . It’s all fun and games til somebody loses an eye. Yet you vote republican by your own admission. If it walks like a duck ect…. At least Cam reads and obviously does research before he makes a comment. I may be stupid but I am not BLIND.
BJ McFrisky
@Dumdum: Okay, if Cam is so astute in his beliefs, show me this speech Romney gave where he wants an anti-gay amendment to the constitution. Because if you paranoid types can’t put up, you need to shut up. So, put your money where your mouth is. Show me that Romney wants to legislate aginst our right to exist (and no, being anti-gay marriage is not legislating against something). Show me where he hates us so bad that he’s one of the conservative monsters you guys are always screaming about who wants all gay people dead. (and don’t let facts like his former national security spokesman Richard Grenell being openly gay get in your way).
Mjl-428
@BJ McFrisky:
for someone claims not to be a republican, you sure do come on here and bash democrats and liberals a lot while defending the LRC, GOProud, and the entire GOP itself.
how one would need proof that the people he’s defending and endorsing are against him (if he is gay) is astounding and says that he doesn’t pay attention to the issues.
here’s one example on where he votes in terms of the rights of gay Americans
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm/
actually there you can review just about where he’s stood on everything and what that means for the rest of us
Little-Kiwi
BJ, it’s on the GOP official platform for the presidency. If you’d read it instead of burying your head in the sand you’d know.
btw, are you gonna provide the URL where you show us the amazing pro-Equality work you and your conservative family are doing? 😉
Little-Kiwi
Romney has 5 sons. 18 grandkids. countless nieces and nephews.
none openly gay. so much for him being a wonderful family man who lets his family know he’d love them unconditionally, eh?
poor republican mormons. lying for the lord, lying for their lives.
Little-Kiwi
BJ – being against gay couples marrying is the same as being anti-gay. i know you don’t want to believe this, because your own family is against gay marriage but pretend that they’re not “anti-gay”- sorry, they are.
your family is anti-gay. stop being angry that not only do we liberals have parents that support us, but other gay men born to bigoted families like yours grew the spines necessary to live apart and free from their bigotry.
man up already.
Dumdum
@BJ McFrisky: I never made any statements that republicans want us dead. They certainly wouldn’t come out publicly and say that. I have often said that I do not trust ANY POLITICIAN BECAUSE THEY ALL LIE. And here is my proof. From the horses mouth. Classic flip flop.
Mitt Romney is against gay marriage being called, “gay marriage”, but if you pay attention to what Mitt Romney is now saying, he actually supports the “rights” of gay marriage. Carefully consider what Mitt Romney said about gay marriage on May 10, 2012:
“My preference would be to have a national standard that defines marriage as a relationship between a man and a woman. That would then allow states to determine what rights would be provided for people of the same gender that wanted to have a relationship. There could be domestic partnership benefits, for instance, where one state might decide to provide hospital visitation rights, another state might decide to provide that as well as benefits of other kinds.” (Mitt Romney on Fox News, May 10, 2012)
Are there “rights” and “benefits of other kinds” of marriage that Mitt Romney would withhold from homosexual couples? For example, what about the right to adopt children? Mitt Romney specified during the same interview:
“I know many gay couples that are able to adopt children. That’s fine. … If two people of the same gender want to live together, want to have a loving relationship, or even want to adopt a child – in my state individuals of the same sex were able to adopt children. In my view, that’s something which people have a right to do.” (Mitt Romney on Fox News, May 10, 2012)
When Mitt Romney ran in 1994 for the U.S. Senate seat held by Massachusetts’ Ted Kennedy, he was more pro-gay marriage than the liberal Kennedy. Romney’s campaign even distributed pink flyers at gay pride parade and Mitt Romney promised:
“As we seek to establish full equality [for gays], I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent, [Edward Kennedy].”
Does Mitt Romney at least admit this today? In his May 10, 2012 interview, Mitt Romney claimed with a straight face:
“And as you know, for a long time, I think from the beginning of my political career, I made it very clear that I believe marriage should be a relationship between a man and a woman.” (Mitt Romney on Fox News, May 10, 2012) AND HERE’S PAULA.
Paul-Ryan-on-LGBT-equality.jpgOPPOSES EQUALITY GOAL: HATE CRIMES
Paul Ryan voted against the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act which was passed by Republican and Democratic members of Congress and signed into law by President Obama on October 28, 2009.
PARTIAL SUPPORT OF EQUALITY GOAL: NON DISCRIMINATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL
Paul Ryan voted for the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) when it was last put for a vote in the House in 2007, a time when ENDA did not include coverage for gender identity. He was one of 35 Republicans to vote in favor of it. Note that Mitt Romney opposes ENDA at the federal level.
Ryan’s vote for ENDA was only for employment non-discrimination based on sexual orientation. He has not indicated his support for full non-discrimination in employment, housing, financing, and public accommodations including sexual orientation and gender identity.
OPPOSES EQUALITY GOAL: MILITARY — REPEAL DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL*
Paul Ryan voted against the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell which was passed by Republican and Democratic members of the House and Senate and signed into law by President Obama on December 22, 2010.
OPPOSES EQUALITY GOAL: MARRIAGE EQUALITY
Like Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan has been a strong opponent of marriage equality and even civil unions. He was very outspoken in his support of the Wisconsin constitutional amendment that defined marriage between a man and a woman and even forbade civil unions.
On Meet The Press (Feb. 19, 2011), he reconfirmed that he supports the Wisconsin Constitutional Amendment that defined marriage between one man and one woman.
Paul Ryan twice voted in favor of the Federal Marriage Amendment in the House, in 2004 and 2006. He also voted in favor of the Marriage Protection Act of 2004. All of these votes were in opposition to moderate Republicans and Democrats.
UNKNOWN SUPPORT FOR EQUALITY GOAL: FREEDOM OF GENDER
There is no public mention of his support or opposition for other transgender-related goals such as birth certificates, driver’s license, etc. As such, he is a member of and supports the Republican Party which has consistently opposed transgender rights.
UNKNOWN SUPPORT FOR EQUALITY GOAL: PROTECTING YOUTH
Paul Ryan’s positions on Protecting Youth are unknown. It is known, however, that like Mitt Romney he did not create a video for the It Gets Better project. President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, members of his administration and thousands of others have create videos in support of LGBT youth.
Dumdum
@BJ McFrisky: Looks Anti-Gay to me. I do know for a fact that there are people here in the good old U.S. of A. That want us dead. Whether or not there are any politicians that feel that way would be pure speculation. I have read all of Cam’s posts and as I have a near photographic memory. I do not recall his EVER claiming that ANY republicans what us dead. I think you are upset because your boy Romney got totally schooled. As for Cams statements about Romney they may not be totally accurate. But I really don’t think it is paranoia. That is a very serious mental disorder.
mike1n11
people who believe obama will ever legalize gay marriage are retarded, im sorry but its true. theres also more important things to worry about in America not just LGBT issues.
im a canadian and i still cant believe that you guys are such a backwards country that you cant even get married to people who you love. arent you the land of the free?
thank god i was born in a country where we respect everyone, literally everyone.
God Bless America, lmfao
Niall
So according to BJ Mcwhatever’s thinking, anti-gay only means when someone is against the existence of gays, but when someone prevents me from having equal rights, he’s not anti-gay, I see. I guess the Jim Crow laws weren’t racist either, since while they didn’t seek to extinguish the existence of blacks, they just didn’t think they should have as much rights as white people.
Little-Kiwi
you’re expecting reason and honesty from BJ – a typical ball-less conservative gay troll.
BJ McFrisky
@Dumdum: Funny how it’s “flip-flopping” when Romney changes his mind on something, but when Obama does the same, it’s called “evolving.” And weren’t the readers here at Queerty cheering Obama’s “evolution” into repealing DADT and approving of gay marriage? Don’t you believe that it’s a GOOD thing to sway the opinion of someone you disagree with? (or does that only apply to Democrats?)
Little-Kiwi
because evolution moves forward, BJ, and Romney moves backward. DE-volving.
you’re welcome, for once again explaining things to you. were your parents siblings?