After NYC hoteliers Ian Reisner and Mati Weiderpass hosted a ‘fireside chat’ with vehemently anti-gay Senator and Republican Presidential candidate clown car occupant Ted Cruz at thier Central Park penthouse last month, the out business partners have been met with backlash and boycotts from the gay community.
Reisner was quick to respond, first calling the dinner party a “terrible mistake.” He wanted everyone to know he wasn’t entirely aware of Cruz’s politics before agreeing to co-host, because his multimillion dollar penthouse is apparently located underneath a rock. “I’ve spent the past 24 hours reviewing videos of Cruz’ statements on gay marriage and I am shocked and angry,” he said.
Well now Weiderpass is speaking out with a decidedly different take.
In an op-ed in the Observer, he calls out the “gay extremists” who don’t understand the virtues of breaking bread with someone like Cruz who has proudly boasted about his “proven record of standing and fighting to protect traditional marriage between one man and one woman.” In the same week as the dinner, Cruz filed two bills to halt same-sex marriage.
So which is it? A “terrible mistake” or an intentional engagement with the opposition? Because it can’t be both.
“I hosted a United States Senator Presidential candidate and asked him how he would feel if his daughter were to tell him she was lesbian,” Weiderpass writes. “How often do you think he has been asked that?”
We suppose we should be thanking you?
If anything, the meeting provided an opportunity for Cruz to get out and show how weighted his stance on gay issues is — presidential if you will. Some of his best friends are gay, he can’t possibly be a bigot.
After the story broke in the Times, Cruz said, “I know it’s been a long time since we’ve seen it, but this is what it means to truly be a ‘big tent Republican’ instead of a panderer.”
The duplicity and empty talk from Cruz, Reisner and Weiderpass make us think the three might actually be perfect for one another.
Alexander R. Rodriguez
Truth hurts huh bitches? You can dish it out but can’t take it..
LOL… I saw this and laughed. Constantly with the victimhood… although in some cases,I see the extremism, but the disingenuous way he tries to turn a fundraiser into “opening dialogue” is snake-like. This is why I said they never should have apologized: they never meant it and no one with a brain accepted such halfass-ity.
BOY CAUGHT! EYE Meant BOYCOTT!
There is nothing extremist about making a conscious decision regarding the company you keep.
Can you say HYPOCRITE !!!! Can you say MEDIA WHORE!!!! Just ANOTHER RICH OPPORTUNIST.
Decisive, isn’t he?
Chris L. Reynolds
What would there be to talk about with Ted Cruz,that you you could get from a coloring book?Oh,now your faulty judgment is “Gay Extremists “fault? You’re pathetic and pitiable!
These idiots are really just digging themselves further and further into a grave that they will never be resurrected from. I would say to quit while they are ahead, but it’s just as well if they keep their mouths shut and disappear for a while. Maybe this will all blow over in a year or two, but the longer they keep calling gays “extremists” and “cheap” “entitled” losers, the more likely the end of their careers comes as an inevitably.
Weiderpass apparently thinks that saying gay people are waging a “jihad” against America’s Christians is considered extreme only in New York.
Weiderpass apparently thinks that saying the courts striking down same-sex marriage ban is “a real danger to our liberty” is considered extreme only in New York.
Weiderpass apparently thinks that sponsoring a bill that would strip federal benefits from legally-married same-sex couples is considered extreme only in New York.
I totally agree. Cruz and these hoteliers aside, I believe it IS possible to change minds in a non-confrontational way. NPR had a great story on this… http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/555/transcript
I totally agree. Cruz and these hoteliers aside, I believe it IS possible to change minds in a personal and non-confrontational way. NPR had a great story on this… http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/555/the-incredible-rarity-of-changing-your-mind (act one)
what an ass.
Ladies, Ladies, Ladies. Now be nice, girls. These two queens have the right to ‘associate’ with whomever they wish. They have the right to be seen with anyone they so desire to be seen with, and we don’t have the right to ‘deny’ them that.
BUT…just as they can do as they wish…SO CAN WE. Before I’d start ‘hurling’ a term like ‘gay extremists, they need to be aware of the ‘terms’ and ‘solutions’ that Ted Cruz and his ‘mongrel attitude’ have fired off at LGBT People.
But then again, if the ‘girls’ aren’t happy about business being bad, then I’d suggest that they start ‘renting those rooms out to the herds of Tepublicans who will just be ‘chomping at the bit’ to give two ego-maniacal queens their money.
Truth Hurts, doesn’t it Ian Reisner and Mati Weiderpass?
yes, you can change hearts and minds that are OPEN AND WILLING TO CHANGE.
Cruz, is not one of them. and these boys are complete fucking LIARS.
Keep fucking that chicken, Mr. Weiderpass. Keep fucking that chicken.
It’s rather like the president of Ortega Foods coming out and calling all Hispanic-Americans “lazy wetbacks”, isn’t it? Clueless beyond comprehension.
Would be great if Queerty (or another source) will pass along any coordinated activity to hold these guys accountable (for example, let us know activities planned at their venues so we can stay away).
Perhaps he would be better off changing his businesses to Christians only business. He might get better results.
Cruz is a joke, he’s a one-note politician, he looks like a super-villain, and he isn’t even a viable candidate for 2016. He jumped on a right-wing Baptist bandwagon out of Texas in 2012 and mistakenly believes he can ride it all the way into the White House.
Having said that, I also believe Mr. Weiderpass is right: If you flat-out refuse to ever acknowledge or speak to anyone who’s ever held a political belief differing from your own, then you’ll never change any minds and only succeed in narrowing your perspective of the world even more than it already is.
“Closed minds lead to closed doors.”
– someone really fucking smart
First, I am gay and have been in a relationship with the same man for 20 years. So I can speak from experience. Nobody, I am certain will like this post but a least give it a thought. The concept that one candidate or party is more or less supportive of GLBTQ issues is false. All of you who believe that Hillary is your savior, go back and read her comments and things she has written that she is against gay marriage just as your savior Obama was. He is also against it. The only time any candidate is for something is when they are speaking to that group. Do your research.
The problem with the country is rather than electing officials based upon their overall policies most people are single issue voters which makes them very ignorant of the rest of the problems. In reality, like it or not, it is what is best for the overall country in terms of number one national security, second financial responsibility, thirdly, foreign policy, and finally principles and values that are not openly lying to the American Public and trashing the constitution.
I hate to trample on everyone’s beliefs but if you really look at the shape of our country as the world sees us, which is unreliable and leaves people behind. I don’t care if people elect a president that says in one crowd he/she supports gay marriage or gay rights, if they cannot protect our country and our borders and allows anyone and everyone to come to our country, all the rights and acceptance in the world will not help you when America no longer exists because people vote for their pet issue and don’t even bother reading a book where he says when the political winds change I will stand with the muslims (paraphrased). You can listen to the media tell you what you want to hear and ignore the rest but when your head is being severed from the rest of your body will all the pretend rights you have really matter?
Hate all you want but the overall picture matters but if you want to focus on a dot. Go ahead.
The fact is, this conversation wasn’t really about gays at all, but about Israel. Weiderpass is one of those Americans (both Jewish and fundamentalist Christian) who thinks doing anything that the conservative Jewish side doesn’t agree with is anti-Israel, you know, like trying to bring some sort of piece to the Middle East. Forget that American tax payers have been propping up Israel from day one, if you get dare to disagree with Israel you’re an anti Semite. Iron Dome? You’re welcome Israel.
It is important to sit down with those we do not agree with — i agree.
But, Cruz more than disagrees with the lgbtq community, he is hostile (eg.
proposed constitutional amendment — as silly as it is). But still, it was just
My own opinion is that the community is upset with Reisner & Weiderpass b/c
they are coming across as entitled, arrogant and a bit patronizing. So, the greater
reaction is not to the dinner with Cruz but the patronizing attitude — perhaps they can
be patronizing with their employees but not their customers. No doubt
Reisner/Weiderpass do not see it this way but — the eyes of the beholder do matter when
you have businesses that are directly customer facing.
So, the dinner with Cruz would/should be acceptable by most people in the community, but
the contempt Reisner/Weiderpass are displaying is doing real damage. At least, as i read their
comments, the contempt is clearly there — do some research and find contempt is a relationship
Hotelier? Holierthanthoulier more like it.
If you think back not ONE “main stream republican” made a statement of support during that foolish twenty-three hour filibuster bullshit he pulled a few years back. NOT ONE.
If you think back, it took guts for the Houston Chronicle, a newspaper that has well over two million daily readers, to retract its endorsement of Rafael Cruz. In other words, the paper simply said point blank “we made a BIG mistake with this closeted queen” (not literally but that is what I bet the editor was getting at.
If you think back this little fool, who shouted from the mountain tops about the danger of Obamacare but sure as hell signed up for it once his insurance ran out did the most hypocritical thing that could have ever been done with that act.
If you think back forcing the students of Liberty University to be at his announcement for his run for the presidency was a clear sign he has practically NO support amongst those who are NOT ignorant religious fanatics.
If you think for a moment how no people of color are EVER included in campaign photo ops for him nor Marco Rubio despite the fact that the island of Cuban (the place that only they are harboring visions of invading on white horses with an American born population of Cubans who have no idea what the hell all the fuss is about because they were born well after Castro took over) is seventy percent mulatto and they refuse to acknowledge it can only mean this little fool is so out of touch he is not worthy of mentioning even on this site.
Ted Cruz is a closeted queen of the worst kind who harbors nothing but contempt for people of color (Obama) who have clearly done better in life than he has. Just wait folks. If his campaign is actually taken serious the men he has cruised and had sex with are going to start coming out of the woodwork to tell about about his sexually boring ass.
@BJ McFrisky: “Having said that, I also believe Mr. Weiderpass is right: If you flat-out refuse to ever acknowledge or speak to anyone who’s ever held a political belief differing from your own, then you’ll never change any minds and only succeed in narrowing your perspective of the world even more than it already is.”
Except that in this case, he is being purposely obtuse and misapplying that rhetoric to a man who’s mind is as closed as an abortion clinic in Utah. I am sorry, but the hope for change in the conservative movement lies with the youth, not with these fogeys in Congress right now. And the sad part is, I know that many of these older conservatives don’t mean a word of what they say, but they kowtow to their demographic.
Dr. Arthur Frederick Ide
In 1943-1945 there were a small number of Jews who wanted to “accommodate” Adolf Hitler. When their sentiments were made public a smaller group of Jewish fence sitters rallied around the motley crowd. Within a week they were rounded and herded into a train cattle car. They disappeared.
Ted Cruz, like his father Rafael, harbors so much hatred that neither can be trusted. They are the clay gods and Reisner & Weiderpass are groveling before them. To give either gaggle of goons anything is to betray the suffering and deaths of the LGBTQ community for they would be the first to douse acid the their own people. Far better it is to boycott these nefarious Neanderthal and led the wad back into the ooze of of dark history. Reisner & Weiderpass and the two Cruzes will never speak for the majority the the LGBTQ any more than the pseudo-gays of the Log Cabin Republicans.
He will not do well in his future as a gay entrepreneur. he should have stayed with the apology. it made him look like a dunce. Now he looks like a mean spirited right wing hateful Republican. Evidently the meeting was exactly what it looked like. An opening of the check book to one of the anti-LBGT candidates. Shame.
Love that episode, which features a great program in Richmond ca, too.
The notion that Cruz went there for a nice fireside chat is ludicrous. He’s a presidential candidate in the early stages of an election and he’s looking for two things: money and support, in that order. The hoteliers provided or facilitated the provision of one or both, or he wouldn’t have been there.
“The concept that one candidate or party is more or less supportive of GLBTQ issues is false.”
The Democrats are clearly more supportive than Republicans. Since that much is obvious, I guess your point is that support or opposition is often insincere and based mostly on political calculation. It’s not much of a point. Any fool knows that sometimes they’re sincere and sometimes they aren’t. As long as they act the part, including voting the right way, it doesn’t make much difference. They aren’t our personal friends. They’re being hired and paid for doing a job.
“The problem with the country is rather than electing officials based upon their overall policies most people are single issue voters which makes them very ignorant of the rest of the problems.”
Some political stances are beyond the pale. It doesn’t matter if they make the trains run on time.
“what is best for the overall country in terms of number one national security, second financial responsibility, thirdly, foreign policy, and finally principles and values that are not openly lying to the American Public and trashing the constitution.”
The supposed party of national security, fiscal responsibility, and personal integrity made us markedly less secure and less fiscally responsible by abandoning personal integrity and ginning up phony reasons to invade Iraq. It’s resulted in a failed state in a crucial region, the emergence of ISIS, and $2 trillion added to the debt. In the process, they set up a constitutionally suspect domestic intelligence infrastructure in the process. Republican policies have failed by all the criteria you claim to be most important.
“if they cannot protect our country and our borders and allows anyone and everyone to come to our country”
Who do you think is hiring all those illegal immigrants? It’s mostly Republican farmers and businessmen. Republicans want illegal immigration even more than Democrats. Both parties make political hay out of it, but Republicans make money off of it by creating a pliable class of non-citizen workers. Open your eyes.
“he says when the political winds change I will stand with the muslims”
Good for him. I’m an anti-Islam atheist, but if ordinary, law-abiding American Muslims started being persecuted, I hope I would have the courage to stand up for them.
“Hate all you want but the overall picture matters but if you want to focus on a dot.”
Civil rights and human rights are not a “dot.” Barely a decade ago, it was legal across wide swaths of the US to throw gay people in jail for having relations in the privacy of their own homes. That’s outrageous. The Republican party in Cruz’s home state of Texas had in their platform until 2010 that they wanted to bring back these laws. For you to minimize that is unconscionable.
As a bonus, Democrats are better on national security and fiscal responsibility. Interventionism not only doesn’t work, it’s expensive and counterproductive. Fiscal responsibility is about living within your means. It’s NOT about taxes or spending, but how you balance taxes AND spending. Republicans are horrible at that. Remember when Bill Clinton included tax increases as part of deficit reduction? Republicans howled, but it worked. We were on track to pay off the debt within ten years. Greenspan stupidly said we were paying off the debt too fast, which contributed support to Bush’s reckless tax cuts, which, combined with increased military spending, ballooned the deficit. History over the past 50 years or so is consistent. Deficits increase during Republican administrations and decrease during Democratic administrations.
“…[Weiderpass] calls out the ‘gay extremists’ who don’t understand the virtues of breaking bread with someone like Cruz…”
I call bullshit. If this indeed was simply having a dialog about political differences, I would accept that. And that would be more believable if, for example, they happened to be at the same event, maybe even happened to be seated at the same table. But there’s no way in Hell that Ted Cruz would bother with this if his campaign wasn’t getting something out of this. Either it a full-blown fundraiser or either Reisner and/or Weiderpass made a personal donation. No way this makes any sense otherwise.
@thecoloradohiker: Apples and oranges. This is not about a political party. Yes, there are individuals in the Democratic Party who are dicks. Yes, there are Republicans who are less dickish than some Democrats. And if Weiderpass and Reisner were meeting with a Republican who had even a mixed record on LGBT rights, like Rob Portman who came out for same sex marriage or Susan Collins who was instrumental in repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, no one would have a problem, even if their record wasn’t 100% flawless. But do not dare compare Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama’s record with Ted Cruz’ record. Maybe neither have had a completely flawless for every second of their lives, but they’ve nevertheless still done a fuck of a lot for LGBT rights. Obama has done more for LGBTs than every other President in history COMBINED. You cannot name a single positive thing that Ted Cruz has done for LGBT rights, but I can name a ton of bad things he’s done — not the least of which were the two anti-marriage equality bills he introduced the same week as this “meeting.”
“In reality, like it or not, it is what is best for the overall country in terms of number one national security, second financial responsibility, thirdly, foreign policy, and finally principles and values that are not openly lying to the American Public and trashing the constitution.”
While I agree that LGBT issues should not be the sole issue for any of us, nor is it my own primary issue, there is not a single issue on which Ted Cruz is both correct and capable. He’s a fucking joke even among people who support most of his issues. In terms of national security, financial security, foreign policy, and “trashing the constitution [sic]” (give me a fucking break. Can you actually cite one real evidence of that?), Ted Cruz would be a UNMITIGATED FUCKING DISASTER. Of the estimated 20 Republicans who might actually run for the nomination, Ted Cruz is dead last in who I would consider voting for, and #1 in who I think would be an even worse president that George W. Bush.
Defend Republicans in general if you want, but there absolutely no defense for Ted Cruz on this or any other issue.
@Xzamilio: You’re right: In this case, Cruz is a waste of time, as is just about anyone stemming from the religious right—you won’t get an argument from me on that. But surely you agree that ignoring the opinions of those with whom you disagree is akin to burying one’s head in the proverbial sand, yes? My experience has been that most gay men have such a cemented point of view from the left that any opposing opinion is perceived purely as an attack, therefore making debate a moot point.
@Alexander R. Rodriguez: Oh look… it’s the little liar again.
@thecoloradohiker: You start your moronic rant with “I’m gay and I been in a relationship for 20 years therefore I know more than you”. I didn’t realize a relationship defines knowledge or political intellect. You then go on this brainless right wing rant.
” if they cannot protect our country and our borders and allows anyone and everyone to come to our country,”
Blah blah blah. REpublicans sure did do a great job at that. 9/11 happened under whose watch exactly?
“You can listen to the media tell you what you want to hear and ignore the rest but when your head is being severed from the rest of your body will all the pretend rights you have really matter?”
Do you even listen to yourself? If you really believed that why are you voting republican?
This is the biggest gem of the brainless colorado troll’s post:
““In reality, like it or not, it is what is best for the overall country in terms of number one national security, second financial responsibility, thirdly, foreign policy, and finally principles and values that are not openly lying to the American Public and trashing the constitution.””
Again, if you believed in any of that you would not ever vote for the republican party.
First off, the last four Republican presidencies have been disastrous for the economy… all of which ended up in recession. Second, 9/11 happened under a republican’s watch… so much for national security. In fact there were huge lapses in intelligence. Thirdly, republicans were EFFing horrible when they did have control of foreign policy… under Reagan and both Bushs. And Bush and the republicans did not give a crap about constitution.
You have a lot of learning to do.
Republicans are a disaster for the ECONOMY.
This is undisputed fact. The last 50 years of republican leadership spanning back to Richard Nixon has been a fucking disaster for the economy. Most of the job growth has occurred under Democrats in a three to one margin. GDP growth is almost triple under democrats.
Nixon started this ugly legacy of selling the country out to corporations… but even Nixon had the sense to have some regard for environmental policy. The republicans that followed him… one fucking disaster after another.
“gay marriage just as your savior Obama was. He is also against it. The only time any candidate is for something is when they are speaking to that group. Do your research.”
Blah blah blah blah… he isn’t against it. Your republican party is for shitty economic policies, weak foreign policy, and regressive social policy.
Maybe you’re the one that needs to do your research!
A pair of rich opportunistic kunts (out for the main chance and purely obsessed with MAMMON) whore themselves out to a so-called celebrity, and people attempt to defend their behavior? Not to mention the infinitely tired, weary, exhausted garbage, one more time, of ‘gays are too obsessed with single issues’ etc. The SINGLE ISSUE obsessions are all on the part of Cruz and similar reactionary guttersnipes; their issues are bigotry, hatred, xenophobia, homophobia, and unadulterated greed. the ugly and brutal fagbashing in Chelsea last week is COMPLETELY symptomatic of what a hate-filled, violent country amurriKKKa has become.
Bad Ass Biker
@Bob LaBlah: I agree completely and think it is only a matter of time before little Teddy gets caught with a boyfriend or a rent boy.
You can support whatever you want but don’t bitch when you get critized for it.
There is not debate to be had with Cruz.
He’s not opposing gay rights because he misunderstands them.
He’s opposing them because it it politically advantageous to him. He’s not going to give that up because that’s pretty much all he has to offer his ravenous, politically uneducated base.
So can people can it with the, “You have to talk to people with opposing views from your otherwise your’re the intolerant ones…”
Yeah, we do. But when it’s in GOOD FAITH. This meeting was not. It was 3 rich predators plotting, and scheming, and conspiring to throw the GLBT community under the bus for $$$.
As for “extremist gays”, talk about projecting.
Reisner and Weiderpass are two disgusting, decrepit, Frankenstein-monster looking predators that drugged a young 23 year old man up so they could take advantage of him, and he ended up overdosing.
@Phil Li: It is, just not Cruz’s. He’s in it for the money, and power, not because the doesn’t understand civil rights.
@Alexander R. Rodriguez: What truth? That Reisner and weiderpass are suffering a PR meltdown and cant’ go a day without incriminating themselves further?
@thecoloradohiker: You’re derailing this conversation, but as others have entertained your point above, are you actually suggesting that the republicans are the party of “national security, fiscal responsibility, and foreign policy?
You’re going to need to provide proof of that…
Right gays throwing other gays under the bus because what happens to the “common folk” doesnt happen to the wealthy. conservative scum bag, its just like a Jew snitching on a Jew for Hitler, or a Black selling slaves….. no difference.
Rich gays throwing other gays under the bus because what happens to the “common folk” doesnt happen to the wealthy. conservative scum bag, its just like a Jew snitching on a Jew for Hitler, or a Black selling slaves….. no difference.
1. Weiderpuss is lying, this was not a simple dinner. Ted Cruz was missing votes in the Senate for a fundraising trip, he wasn’t there to have dinner, he was there because he was meeting with people ONLY 8f they gave him a massive donation.
2. For a gay couple who claim they don’t support Cruz’s anti-gay agenda, isn’t it simply AMAZING how the second they get angry they use the EXACT SAME ANTI-GAY ATTACK LANGUAGE THAT THE RIGHT WING BIGOTS USE?
Sorry guys, you two self hating, collaborating, bigot supporters better hope that NOM or the Family Research Council, or the cast of Duck Dynasty wants to book your hotel. I have a feeling gays will be booking anywhere else, especially considering how gay friendly pretty much all the other New York hotels are. I don’t see the CEO of Starwood or even Marriott cutting huge checks to people like Cruz.
@thecoloradohiker: So blatantly stupid. Totally wrong on every point. What planet are you living on?
@thecoloradohiker: exactly who do you mean by ” but if you really look at the shape of our country as the world sees us, which is unreliable and leaves people behind.” And which countries would those be?
Would Weiderpass approve of a Jewish person hosting a function for a Nazi-sympathizer? I’m sure he would not.
You apologized an didnt like being held to your bullshit and chngedd your mind ? Ok, yea sure . I can TOTALLY take someone like that seriously . Jackass
This Reisner guy is such a moneyed mess. Doesn’t he have multiple drug arrests or charges against him? A young man overdosed in his apartment.
Wouldn’t be surprised if this dinner fundraiser open dialogue thingy was simply a luxurious high society drug party.
@thecoloradohiker: hey! another pathetic old white gay! LOL!
20 year relationship, eh? i know why – you’re both so ugly nobody else will ever get with either of you.
your post was an hilarious piece of bullshit from the type of coward who no doubt spent every day of his life begin a crushing disappointment to his father. congrats!
I hope you and your husband are happy together!!! If you were single I would be asking you out on a date. You are so smart and posted a very respectful comment unlike most people on here.
Thank you for your posting.
9/11 happened under Bush that is true, but it was planned for years under Clinton. Bush hadn’t even been in office 1 year when it happened. The 1st World Trade Center bombing, Waco massacre, Oklahoma City Bombing and USS Cole attack all happened under Clinton.
So it is probably more accurate to say that both parties were asleep at the wheel in protecting the US, but the Dems a bit drowsier.
Atticus, I usually enjoy your posts. They are concise, well thought and respectful. Don’t turn into Giancarlo85. You are better than that. No need to attack posters.
Their money is more important their all of our rights. Disgusting.
@BJ McFrisky: To an extent I agree… if there is someone whose “opinion” is based on points that have been debunked to the point where if you look them up on the internet, their rebuttals and debunking are the first hits you get, then it stands to reason that person is not looking to debate, but to dilly dally, and refuse to accept reality. Evolution… climate change… gay marriage… these are not issue that are debatable anymore. I’m sorry, but they are not. Homosexuality isn’t debatable.
There are other things to debate. Foreign policy, government spending, tax cuts for the rich and middle class, but is there really a point in pretending that people like Ted Cruz or Michele Bachmann or Ben Carson are looking to “evolve” on LGBT people? Come now…
Whites are so annoying.
@AtticusBennett: I’ve seen your YouTube videos and you arent one to talk about looks. Just sayin’…
Ian Reisner and Mati Weiderpass are Aunty Toms. Fuck ’em both.
@lauraspencer: Aren’t we being “respectful” enough to the people trying to destroy our rights? Are your sensitivities ruffled? Poor thing.
They’re gay republicans, its all about the $$$$ and nothing to do with gay rights or having some sort of dignity. But they will gladly ride the coattails of progress made for the gay community by the very “gay extremist” they so like to bash.
I’m not sure exactly how large the stick up this guy’s ass is, but I’ve no doubt that it could be used in the construction of a Log Cabin . . .
That man is a nothing more than a shit stain on the panties of life.
@thecoloradohiker: cruz is a pandering Cuban born in Canada asshole with an insane preacher father who hasn’t been correct about any issue since he’s been elected. he’s a disingenuous lying bigot just like every other republican teatard but even more so. those who champion and associate with this sort of person shouldn’t be taken seriously nor given the time of day by good decent people. they should be ridiculed and scorned. — I’ve been with the same partner for 20 years too so I can speak from experience. you are a right wing toady with the brains of an imbecile. you blew it with the Hillary bashing and calling Obama savior. you’re nothing but a disingenuous *sshole.
@lauraspencer: well, if that just didn’t make me want to puke.
@Desert Boy: I love how these trolls and their supporters always manage to go to all the sites with the stories about their follies and try to do damage control. one shovels a huge steaming pile of bullsh*t and then there are a couple of others defending his pile of sh*t by going after the people who call it exactly what it is. I see it all the time. they’re nothing but of fakes.
@AtticusBennett: I don’t think he’s gay at all. he’s a damage control troll. he used too many talking point code words. parts were lifted from scripts I’ve seen before. they’re scrambling to come up with a new message and a way to try to sell it.
Well THAT should make things better?
WHY doesn’t Queerty prominently publish all the hotel, resort, and other properties and businesses owned by “NYC hoteliers Ian Reisner and Mati Weiderpass”? Surely Queerty could do that research and publish it prominently, correct? Wonder if Queerty is c-cksucking Reisner and Weiderpass for investment money, freebies, and bling? Queerty needs to disclose – with absolutely transparency – its entire financier picture (where funds come from, and where funds go). But if Queerty is a c-cksucker off anti-gay ‘gay’ oligarchs they won’t. Let’s see if they do. Safe bet is that Queerty is a oligarch c-cksucker?
They named off multiple businesses the two owned in more than one of the postings about these two, including their hotel in NYC, and their Fire Island businesses
@lauraspencer: You are on drugs apparently and you are coming up with a lot of nonsense. Clinton was one of the finest Presidents of modern times, and what happened under Bush was because of breakdowns within HIS ADMINISTRATION. You are a nasty selective thinker and you attack me whenever it is most convenient.
Republicans are absolute shit when it comes to foreign policy and economic policy. This is proven time and time again by numerous failed administrations. You have to be high if you think otherwise.
@lauraspencer: Oh but you feel free to personally attack me whenever you have a chance, with your stupid bullshit. You’re comparing small scale incidents with 9/11 (which happened because of breakdowns under the Bush administration). Thousands of Americans died because of Bush, and another four thousand came back in body bags because of a lie.
So don’t sit here and try to talk about Clinton you selective thinker.
@lauraspencer: How the heck is he intelligent? Just because I disagree with him? When was the last time you ever used your mind to think?
“9/11 happened under Bush that is true, but it was planned for years under Clinton. Bush hadn’t even been in office 1 year when it happened. ”
But let’s not forget, Bush was warned, and ignored about direct threats to attack major U.S. targets.
You’re not relevant. You just have new money and as all new money, you’re tacky, Mary.
@lauraspencer: “So it is probably more accurate to say that both parties were asleep at the wheel in protecting the US, but the Dems a bit drowsier.”
This is the biggest pile of fucking bullshit I’ve read in a long time. Drowsier? Are you nuts? Far more Americans died under republicans. And I could just point all the way back to the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut. What happened under Clinton was small scale compared to what happened under Bush.
Dems are far more effective at combating terrorism. WHat the fuck did Bush do? Did he get Bin Laden? I didn’t think so. Bush only succeeded in making more enemies and creating a great deal of blowback. Bush tarnished the reputation of this country.
Drowsier my ass. Stop trying to be an au contrarian. You fail miserably at it.
@Cam: Bush was warned multiple times. Bush had many officials replaced when he took over. There were few to no Clinton hold-overs. Bush had many dumbasses put in power.
Lauraspencer is just another example of a non-thinker and a historical revisionist.
@tricky ricky: Colorado troll is pooping out the bullshit and lauraspencer shovels it and eats some of it up too.
Then lauraspencer has the audacity to say I personally attack people. What a hypocrite.
2,996 – Americans killed because of massive intelligence lapses in the Bush administration (republiturds don’t try to blame Clinton)
4,000 – Americans killed because of a lie (Iraq)
500,000 – Iraqi Civilians killed because of a lie
Bush = Mass Murderer
Idi Amin = Killed anywhere between 300,000 – 500,000.
Bush ranks in the same category as Idi Amin.
And how is Iraq today? Mission accomplished?
So go ahead, laura… kiss more ass of a party of incompetent butchers.
@lauraspencer: Waco and Oklahoma City were the result of domestic terrorists, one crazy Christian the other crazy right wing. And if I remember the right in this country criticized Clinton from the first and ran like hell from the second.
And Bushie ignored the warnings about 9/11 and couldn’t even finish the job in the Afgan War before running out to start the Iraq War.
Don’t you just love how the gay right-wing trolls are trying to pin 9/11 on Bill Clinton, while over 3000 American lives were lost that day under Bush’s presidency and over 4000 soldiers lives lost as a result of the Iraq/Afghan war. And now they’re beating a dead horse trying to pin the deaths of 4 Americans in Benghazi on Obama and Hillary. Priceless…
I’m not high. I have never done drugs in my life. I listened to Nancy Reagan growing up.
I didn’t make anything up. The facts are there. You can do the research and see that Bin Laden was able to get his foothold and plan the 9/11 attacks under the Clinton administration.
As for the war in the Middle East we entered under the Bush Administration….it was also supported by Clinton. Hillary.
@lauraspencer: You listened to Nancy Reagan? Typical. Another loser republican on here. The Reagan administration was one full of criminals and record indictments and convictions.
The facts are what I posted after extensive research. Bin Laden “did not get his foothold and plan the 9/11 attacks under the Clinton administration”. That is a falsehood.
“:As for the war in the Middle East we entered under the Bush Administration….it was also supported by Clinton. Hillary.”
Yet another deflection from the weak thinker. The adminstration lied to Congress multiple times. Many democrats backtracked after hearing the facts.
Jay A. Scaramazzo
You are an incompetent liar. You have no evidence that Bin Laden got a foothold under the Clinton administration. The Bush administration was full of incompetence and the lapses happened under HIS administration. If Clinton was still in charge, 9/11 probably would have been prevented.
I don’t know who did what and what the fuck’s going on, but I’m on the side of the “bad” guys. There aren’t enough disapproving adjectives in the English language to fully explain what vicious bitches gay men are.
War is sad.
If you want to keep score in lives and parties that were in power when wars/conflicts started let’s not leave out ….
WWI – Wilson (Democrat)
WWII – Roosevelt (Democrat)
Korean War – Truman (Democrat)
Vietnam – Eisenhower (Republican)
Gulf War – Bush (Republican)
If you want to talk loss of life you can research the numbers for each war above. Neither party is innocent when it comes to crazy wars. You always seem to be keeping score and you are somewhat bright so I’m sure you can do the math and see that more innocent solders have died under Dems than under Republicans.
@thecoloradohiker: I agree. Unfortunately, your common sense will offend some Queerty readers. Some people would like to ignore that the USA is becoming a police state, government is more and more intrusive in our lives and the Constitution is being ignored. Government now exists to punish, not help.
@Giancarlo85: You’ve consistently displayed your inability to grasp reality. I know we have our differences, but if there’s anything I can do to help you, please let me know. I care about you as a human and I hate to see you suffer like this. 😉
@lauraspencer: WWII was caused by Roosevelt? Do you realize the US was attacked by an actual country? Was the US attacked by Iraq? Nope.
You’re a fucking tool. WWII was a completely different time. You had the Axis Powers that threatened the allies significantly, and overran former allied nations like France.
You’re a dumbass at the largest extent. The only thing Roosevelt really was guilty about was the internment camps and that was the biggest mistake of his administration.
Keep scoring of what? I’m stating the facts. Bush launched an unlawful and unjust war on Iraq. A nation that had almost no military capacity and no capacity to make WMDs.
This has nothing to do with keeping score of wars/conflicts. It has to do with criminal actions. Bush is nothing better than a liar. Roosevelt was tasked with stopping the Japanese and Germans.
If you think WWII was based on a lie… you need to get your little brain examined. You really don’t have much mental capacity. Stupid republican.
@aliengod: And you’re the typical parrot that I absolutely expected to come around with your same incoherent garbage. I have read your posts too many times… and unfortunately they don’t make any sense. You’re a right winger though. You apparently have an issue with thinking… probably has to do with an early onset of dementia.
Alienfart, government instrusion? Are you shitting me? Repubilcans are guilty of that. But then again, if you cared so much about the Constitution, republicans are the last people you want to talk about.
These right wing trolls… nothing but a bunch of ashamed, demented freaks who can’t accept themselves in their own skin. So they have to kiss right wing ass, talk about the Constitution (which they know nothing about), and make up all sorts of accusations/threats/bullshit to try to prop up their non-existent arguments.
And lauraspencer seems to be stuck in some other reality. I don’t know what the fuck lauraspencer is anyways… probably some stupid troll from 4chan.
When Cruz hangs him for more Tea Party votes.. He will wish he hadnt sucked Cruz off before being caught
@thecoloradohiker: @colorado hiker I’ve been gay for over 60 years and have had my fill of Trolls like you. Go back to the Blaze and hang with your white supremacist buddies.
@aliengod: You serious? He didn’t give not one fact, stat, or link to a damn thing he said. Now if you want to agree on he’s opinion then say that shit but don’t treat it as the truth without any proof. Something tells me your a bit of a blind follower of someone says the things you like.
In his first statement, this fool says that he wasn’t entirely aware of Ted Cruz’ views on Homosexuality and marriage equality prior to this dinner. But then in his op-ed letter, his statement contradicts his entire “whaaaat? We didn’t know” excuse.
I hope they get they deserve. I’ve met way too many of these entitled guys (they’re the entitled ones not the entire community), and they are WORTHLESS. Guys like these could not be eliminated fast enough.
This guy is the Dumbest Queer ever. Revoke his card, and stop talking to him. According to him, it’s everybody else fault that he’s stupid.
“I don’t know who did what and what the fuck’s going on, but I’m on the side of the “bad” guys. There aren’t enough disapproving adjectives in the English language to fully explain what vicious bitches gay men are.”
Except for the fact that the two guys this article is about are also gay. Oh wait! We weren’t supposed to point that out and make it obvious that you were just looking for an excuse to come in as a right wing troll and attack gays and support others doing the same.
Sorry, you got caught.
Once there was a boy born without a body. Every day his mother would place his head on the window sill to watch the other children play. Tears would stream down his face and puddle up on the sill. One day an angel came down and said, “It’s not fair. You have to stay on this sill and watch others play. I’m giving you a body, now go out there and have fun. He ran out and immediately was hit by a car, killed. Moral of the story: Quit while you’re a head.
@Xzamilio: Again, you’re correct: Cruz, Bachmann, Carson—they’ll never evolve on the issue of gay marriage (that’s a card the Democrats play, and it cracks me up every time the lemmings fall for it).
And not that it’s relevant to the conversation, but “climate change” (which is so-called because the “global warming” narrative has proven to be false) in fact is VERY debatable—especially as long as the loudest voices on the topic continue to spew carbon into the atmosphere with impunity while demanding the rest of us do without.
@BJ McFrisky: How exactly is climate change — which encompasses global warming and isn’t a new narrative — debatable? Unless you are willingly ignoring the science behind it, there is nothing to debate at all. And the last part of your statement was nothing but an ad hominem tu quoque… even if you are right, you just demonstrate the “loudest voices on the topic” are hypocrites, not that they are wrong. It’s like saying a spokesperson for the harm of cigarettes is wrong because he/she smokes.
@Xzamilio: The earth’s climate changes naturally, as all scientists attest to. The Ice Age thawed without benefit of man-made carbon emissions, no? So I’m not convinced it’s man (especially white, first-world civilizations) who’s responsible for the weather. After all, none of Al Gore’s “Inconvenient Truth” threats came to pass—all it managed to do was make him exceptionally wealthy. That’s not science, that’s a get-rich-quick scheme perpetrated by an opportunist.
@BJ McFrisky: And they also attest to the accelerated rate at which climate has changed over the centuries… don’t speak half-truths, please. So you’re not convinced of the science behind climate change because of the Ice Age? And because Al Gore is richer? You’re side-stepping… what does any of that have to do with the real science behind climate change? Do you need statistics? It’s not some even split here where half of the world’s leading scientists agree and the other half does not. Again, it’s the tu quoque fallacy with Gore.
Just because I listened to Nancy Reagan as a child when she said “Don’t do Drugs” doesn’t mean I’m Republican.
I’m a registered Democrat and my voting record over the course of 22 years of voting has been 70% Democrat, 20% Republican and 10% Independent. I’m not a one issue voter.
You make a lot of good observations about Cruz. If you think he didn’t have a ton of man on man action while at Princeton…
@Alexander R. Rodriguez:
If you yank that crucifix out of your ass, you won’t be so cranky and constipated. Go ahead, give it a good yank.
@Xzamilio: If you continuously dismiss all opposing statements as tu quoque fallacies, then there’s no discussion to be had. But, I’ll leave you with this: Make no mistake, the “global-warming-no-wait-it-must-be-climate-change-because-the-globe-stopped-warming” hysterics all have the same agendas: money for the scientists, or warm fuzzies for the hippies. Because if they truly wanted to save the world from carbon emissions, they’d walk the walk, and not just talk the talk.
Happy Tuesday, X.
Gay extremists? Hmmmmm……. I have been out for 54 years and I have never met any in America.
@BJ McFrisky: You have an extremist position on this subject that I haven’t seen even the craziest right-wing kook take to such an extreme. You’ve said in the past that if we use ANY gas or electricity we’re hypocrites! No one else (on either side) talks about an Amish-style return to pre-1870s technology.
“Walk the walk” – I don’t even own a car anymore and sure, I walk a lot, and take public transportation a lot. Am I a hypocrite because the buses use gas and the Boston subway uses electricity? Do you think I should get a horse?
“Money for the scientists,” that’s the most paranoid theory! Very little of the relative pittance goes to the scientists *personally*. And scientists don’t go into it for the money anyway (but of course, a “conservative” wouldn’t understand that). And you guys are always willing to waste trillions of $ on bombing this, that and the other place. As I’ve pointed out before, you’re a hypocrite because you want us all to support your anti-ISIS schemes but you’re not willing to go to Syria yourself.
@Bauhaus: “You make a lot of good observations about Cruz. If you think he didn’t have a ton of man on man action while at Princeton…”
Oh, I wouldn’t bet on that. When he announced for prez the papers had some photos of him from his college days. He was a damn goofy-looking kid, and NOT in that “cute nerd” way.
Goofy or not, Firestone Library was the place where homosexual men…
@Bauhaus: Okay, Ted probably got some action but not as much as he wanted so now he’s jealous… hee hee.
@BJ McFrisky: I dismissed specific statements as tu quoque fallacies because they are… there is science behind climate change but you point to Al Gore making money as some kind of proof it isn’t… what does that have to do with anything? Furthermore, there are certain things that do not deserve to be discussed as if they have merit… CNN is the master of trying to provide this false balance of having confirmed science going up against quackery as if it even. Over 97% of all leading scientists in the world agree on climate change and see the evidence, but you think that the 3% should have the same playing field? No… it doesn’t work like that. It’s like trying to pit creationism against evolution… it’s a false dichotomy and not even worthy of discussion.
You don’t get to try to paint this false narrative that both sides need to be heard, especially when one side has evidence and the other side is throwing fucking snowballs in Congress
@BJ McFrisky: said… “If you continuously dismiss all opposing statements as tu quoque fallacies, then there’s no discussion to be had. But, I’ll leave you with this: Make no mistake, the “global-warming-no-wait-it-must-be-climate-change-because-the-globe-stopped-warming” hysterics all have the same agendas: money for the scientists, or warm fuzzies for the hippies. Because if they truly wanted to save the world from carbon emissions, they’d walk the walk, and not just talk the talk.
Happy Tuesday, X.”
And here goes BJ doing whatever they can to redirect the conversation onto a different topic, than the fact that Ted Cruz has proposed stripping the civil rights away from gay people and these two large property developers in New York have donated to him.
It is really sad when a gay web site has to hold comments for “moderation” because the commenters have more depth than the editors.
I give you that the Clinton’s brought us NAFTA, DADT, DOMA and deregulation of Wall Street, yet those are things that the Republicans loved about him. I’m not going to turn around and vote Republican because of how slimy Bill and Hillary are.
We need another 8 years of Dem in the White House to save the Supreme Court and to stop the Repub. cronies from bankrupting the country.
@martinbakman: Oops. That was directly at Colorado Hiker
@Xzamilio: What I was pointing out regarding Al ManBearPig Gore is that he had scientists backing him up in 2005, but his doomsday predictions turned out to be no more than hype—none have come to fruition. All that happened was he got reeeeal rich off of people’s fears.
A simple Google search will show you the 97% figure refers to scientists who agree the temperature is fluctuating, not the percentage of scientists who believe man is responsible. On that the science is split about 60-40, the sixty being the ones who need grants in order to keep up their research. And keep in mind, science is famously inaccurate when predicting long-term weather based on current data—in the ’70s the same scientific majority was insistent we would be entering an ice age by 1999. So yeah, I’m skeptical.
@BJ McFrisky: You do realize that my simple Google search yielded this result as the top result:
Read the first paragraph… I don’t need to say anything else.
@BJ McFrisky: And you’re not presenting a skeptical approach.. it sounds conspiratorial. Science is “famously” wrong when predicting long term weather based on current data? First of all, as the models for predicting weather based on current patterns improves, the science is damn near perfect… but that doesn’t matter, because they’re looking for money. What money do these scientists get? You do realize that it would be to their benefit to create sound science and line their pockets with billionaire/millionaire money from leeches looking to manipulate the public? Congratulations… you can go back in time and find instances where the science was wrong… and do you know how they were able to discover their models were wrong??? MORE SCIENCE!! It is a self-correcting field that looks to falsify its own findings all the time.
I’m sorry, but I take issue with people who will piss on science in one instant and then use it to their benefit the next, or not question it when it gives them an answer they can use.
Guys like BJ prefer leaving important things, like global warming and such, to the experts: Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
@queerty why are my posts on just this article still awaiting moderation? I have not violated any comment policy terms as far as I can tell? I’m very engaged by this story and the above convo and want to continue to join the discussion speaking as a media relations professional.
@TO: You noticed it too huh? It is how some people can make well over fifty derogatory comments about other commenters, including personal comments with profanity and all while adding nearly nothing about the article itself.
And when presented with facts BJFrisky goes silent…………………………..
@lauraspencer: We all know that’s a lie. You’re not a democrat. Your posts on here say otherwise. You just repeat what republican dingbats say and you fail completely to make a point. You should know better. Republicans are horrible for national security, they are horrible for the economy and they have no good ideas.
@BJ McFrisky: You have present zero facts and zero evidence to back up your claims.
“science is famously inaccurate when predicting long-term weather based on current data—in the ’70s the same scientific majority was insistent we would be entering an ice age by 1999. So yeah, I’m skeptical.”
This has nothing to do with predicting “weather”. Climate change is fact and it shown by a sharp increase in global temperatures. I’m sure you are too busy reading Washington Times or some other garbage like that.
@TO: Moderation is triggered automatically if a word in your post is on the blacklist. Some of the words there are quite innocuous. Just try to figure out what the word is, modify it, and repost. If you wait for a moderator to unblock your post, you might be waiting a long time.
I think I know what I’m registered. When I first started voting at 18 I was registered Republican. When I moved to NYC 4 years later I became Independent. Then I realized as an Independent I couldn’t vote in primaries so I switched to Democrat.
Just because I don’t believe everything every single Democrat says doesn’t mean I’m not a registered Democrat. As I said above, my voting record has primarily been Democrat. I even voted for Bill Clinton…twice and when none of my other Dem friends supported Obama I was the one saying over and over he would get the nomination and become President.
@lauraspencer: I am not registered to any political party, but I know you’re full of shit. Your statements on democrats are laughable at best, as is your sense of history.
@Bauhaus: BJ has said before that he is not a conservative, and I actually like talking with him because we’re able to be polite and not get too personal with insults. I’ll even go a step further and say he’s probably a lot more cordial than some of the people on this site that I actually agree with most of the time. But, he’s definitely intellectually dishonest or obtuse when it comes to science.
I’m sorry but BJ is obtuse and intellectually dishonest when it comes to most issues, especially regarding international issues and on the economy.
@Xzamilio: I commend you on your efforts but given the last few post you’ve got from him prepare yourself for alot of Sarah Palin grade pivots and misdirection.
He’s slippery, evasive, offensive, and contrary. He’s an awful bore, like most regressive people.
@Xzamilio: Thanks for the compliment.
I’m not being obtuse, however. I see the science, and I’m not some bible-thumper who think science is sorcery, I just question the veracity of any claim that a) requires gazillions in government grants and b) tends to ignore the natural laws of warming and cooling while placing the blame squarely on mankind—western mankind, more specifically.
But yes, to your earlier point, I admit what largely drives my disdain for the movement is the blatant hypocrisy of people jumping up and down and screaming the world is ending because I drive a car, but then hop on a plane with impunity simply because they think THEIR travel is essential. A great recent example of this was Leo DiCaprio making the spectacularly clueless statement, “Marty Scorcese and I were discussing climate change yesterday while flying here on my private jet . . .” You can’t make this shit up.
Happy Wednesday, X.
@Bauhaus: For the record, I believe Limbaugh and Hannity to be modern-day snake-oil salesmen. In fact, there isn’t a single conservative talking head I respect. Not that I expect you to believe me . . .
Of course I don’t believe you, you’re a right-wing bob head.
@Bauhaus: “Bob head” . . . meaning I have a short and sassy haircut?
@BJ McFrisky: Our knowledge of science is about as a scientific as a creationist museum. You rely on histrionics and mischaracterizations. You are nothing more than a silly pseudointellectual who doesn’t know the slightest bit about science.
Stick to what you know best… Incoherent idiotic ramblings.
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