Mike Dozer, a controversial gay porn star who made headlines last year for opposing condom use and appearing in “socially irresponsible (NSFW)” porn, was arrested in December on charges of statutory rape, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse, and aggravated indecent assault for allegedly having sex with a 14-year-old boy he met on Jack’D.
This week, porn insiders have learned that the charges against 33-year-old Dozer (real name Christopher Steele) have been enhanced to include reckless endangerment, because Dozer allegedly may not have disclosed his HIV+ status before giving the boy poppers (NSFW) and having sex with him.
According to the Philadelphia Gay News, police in Delaware arrested Dozer after learning he drove to meet the boy at his house in Montgomery County, PA, for the purpose of having sex. It’s unclear whether Dozer and the boy had any prior contact, but Dozer’s lawyer, Kevin Wray, claims his client “attempted to end relations” with the boy after learning he was underage. But the boy, he says, “kept pursuing him and apparently had done so with others.”
Wray believes Dozer, who is currently being held in a Montgomery County prison on $1 million bail, did disclose his HIV status before having sex and believes the additional reckless endangerment charge is “homophobic”:
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It bothered me a great deal and seemed to be offensive. He takes medication and is constantly moderating it. Charging someone with [reckless endangerment] because they are HIV-positive is homophobic and ignorant. We don’t go to people who have herpes, colds, Strep throat and charge them. If that is the standard, they need to be indicting everybody. It’s amazing that, 35 years later, the public is still oblivious to the simple fact that HIV does not equal AIDS.
Dozer is scheduled to appear in court again on February 27.
Flash Pants
Did this guy tell all his co-stars about his HIV status? Makes you wonder.
ppp111
Speaking clearly for myself I remember as a young teen how I loved the older men (tom selleck, Harrison ford, Richard gere, and every other Chippendales stripper that appeared on Donahue). Again, I’m not saying that’s the case here but somehow I can believe a gay teen pursuing an older gay gentleman.
KittyLitter
“Lock him up and throw away the key.”
Hiv is still a death-sentence- and giving it to a minor? Irresponsible.
Don’t let those adverts fool you.
We are NOT “HIV=”
E.Ashleigh
@KittyLitter:
Seriously kittylitter u r so uneducated. HIV is not a death sentence it was years ago.people like u r an embarrassment. HIV+ men r living longer and longer and as long as meds are taken regularly,the virus will remain UNDETECTABLE and will almost never be transmitted to an HIV- person.
E.Ashleigh
Also I agree with ppp111. I know when I was 14 I was very into older men and even once persued one. We all know damn well that people r constantly lying about MANY things on these Apps and sex sites. Their age amd their status. I only hope it is proven that this 14 yo did continue to lie about his age,obviously he did once since every site asks u that u r 18yo or older,and I also hope its proven that mike revealed his status.
Bjk
ppp111 E.Ashleigh
So if they ask for it, give it to them? How young is too young? 10? 12? And we allow them to make a life changing decision about HIV at what age? Again, 10? 12? 9 as long as they look 14? Adults should not have sexual access to children no matter what. Saying “they were asking for it”, is an idiots claim for rape.
ttzach
@E.Ashleigh: I’m sorry, but regardless of the meds you are on, it can still be transferred. And new strains are being found that are more aggressive. The fact that some people want to act as though HIV isn’t a big deal is worrying. The solution to HIV isn’t just treatment, it’s prevention.
ttzach
@ttzach: Even when a fourteen year old can pass for 18, you still know they are very young and barely legal. You should ensure they are of age, and if you don’t have the balls to ask for ID then you shouldn’t be having sex with strangers. Having sex with somebody under 16 is wrong whether they lied or not. 14??? barely started puberty man, it’s disgusting.
dendenden
When i was fourteen I used to jack off on the phone with a bartender at the local gay bar, who I pursued. We set up a meeting, but I was too chicken to go through with it.
litper
that is disgusting!
Merv
To those minimizing HIV, how about you pay for the $22k/year in drugs and thousands more in other expenses? Even with insurance, it can be very expensive.
Leaving HIV aside, knowing the degree of moral panic in this country over underage sex, the guy should have asked for ID if the kid appeared anywhere close to the line. Personally, I wouldn’t have objected if the kid were over 16 and wasn’t being coerced, but 14 is kind of pushing things. Decision making skills rapidly fall off the younger you go.
joey
HIV can still be fatal. ifthis jerk lied about his status in jail he should go1 so its not a big deal? hiv IS a big deal getting it will change your life forever, expense of meds? do the meds agree with you? what are long term effects of the meds? going to the doc the rest of your life , the stress that every time you get your check up something is going wrong..the stress having to explain yourself to family, friends, co workers and sex partners and if you dont tell anyone the stress of keeping the secret ..hiv is a VERY BIG DEAL..its not a fucking cold or upset stomach, regardless if you ever progress to aids you have all the above to deal with ..
Bjk
jimbryant
Magic Johnson has millions of dollars to look after his health. How much money do you think a 14 year-old has? I’ve lost 7 friends to AIDS, and yes, they lived longer than people diagnosed just a few years earlier, but they still died before their time. Applying the “best case scenario” to everyone is disingenuous. People still die of AIDs every day.
Dixie Rect
Trash!
KittyLitter
@E.Ashleigh: Gay teens are already facing bullying that is so extreme that they’re killing themselves or at least contemplating it. …and now you’re throwing HIV into the mix? If that’s not a death-sentence- I don’t know what is.
We are not all HIV=
Don’t down play the severity.
Don’t be fooled.
pcolibri80
Something doesn’t seem right here because another porn star just said on his fb account that Mike Dozer doesn’t even like twinks
Bob LaBlah
@KittyLitter: If a fourteen year old born with HIV (yes, there are kids born with it) has sex with another fourteen year old would you feel the same way if he didn’t tell the other about his status?
The7thDoctor
@Bjk: Thank You! I keep seeing comments on here and on other Internet site saying ‘it’s not a death sentence anymore’ like you can just go pick up 3 or 4 dollar bottle of “Nyquil” and have done with it.
rextrek
@E.Ashleigh: I can Totally relate – I remember being 14-15 – having fantasies about Starsky Of Starsky & Hutch, Chad Everett…Kent McCord…James Brolin..you get the idea..its not far fetched – that this kid kept showing up at his house….
middleagespread
No matter what, he had sex with a 14 yr old. There is no justifiable excuse. Everything else is just adding to the shit storm.
CCTR
Hopefully this kid tests negative for HIV
Ogre Magi
Looks like a bear was caught in the chicken coop
KittyLitter
@Bob LaBlah: Obviously.
Jackhoffsky
@jimbryant: I think that is, almost literally, the stupidest thing I’ve read on the internet.
There is nothing about this article that is good, negotiable, or salvageable.
Scribe38
@jimbryant: that is the dumbest thing you have ever said, and you have said a lot of dumb sh*t. I pray to God no one takes your advice. People please take it from the 3rd year nursing student if you are HIV pos take the meds.
To those in the room saying being 14 and having sex with a adult is ok you’re f*cked up. Yeah some kids want to pretend they are adult-like and try to sleep with adults. It is the real adults that know better and don’t prey on kids. Real men do not have sex with children under any circumstance.
tardis
@E.Ashleigh: But the virus still diminishes quality of life. Treatment alone is about 29,000 a year. It’s not a “death sentence” but it’s far from the “living longer” mentality. It’s a nasty disease. I’m not trying to sound negative or condemning here. It’s a tough thing to undertake and not a walk in the park whatsoever.
KDub
Typical.
Jackhoffsky
@jimbryant: For HIV one takes antiretroviral drugs, not anti-viral drugs.
AND antiretroviral drugs are not what prevents the transmission of HIV, it is the various inhibitors… inhibitors actually come with very few (if any) side effects.
Just FYI… from a non-medical degree person.
Respect4all
@ppp111: @E.Ashleigh: @rextrek: Fantasy is not reality. Regardless of what the 14-year-old wanted or thought he wanted, he is not an adult, and by law he is not capable of making adult decisions. There is absolutely no excuse or justification for an HIV+ adult to have sex with a child, whether he disclosed his status or not. The adult is the one who is obligated to take responsibility for his actions. He didn’t, and now the law will make sure he is held responsibly. Yelling ‘Homophobia’ is absurd and offensive. Straight men have gone to prison for deliberately infecting women with HIV. Gay men do not deserve to be treated any differently.
Respect4all
@The7thDoctor: Nyquil does not cure anything. It merely relieves symptoms.
Kangol
@Jackhoffsky:
You do know he’s a severe anti-gay, misogynistic troll, right? And though he claims to have a “medical degree” he doesn’t know the difference between “antiretroviral” and “anti-viral”. He’s scary. Please, everyone, ignore his hateful, sexist, anti-gay trolling.
No matter how much an underage person may pursue an older person, it’s up to the adult to act like one and say No. If Dozer found out he was dealing with a 14-year-old, there should have been no sexual activity with this kid. None. Whether he, the teenager, or no one was or was not HIV+. There’d have been no risk of serotransmission had Dozer just stopped himself.
Bjk
@jimbryant:
Like I said, I’ve known 7 who did as you said. They still died before 50.
Stache1
@The7thDoctor: It’s not a death sentence and no one’s minimizing it.
ppp111
To those who thought my original post meant that what this guy did was okay, that was not my intent! My apologies if it came out that way. My post was just stating what I went through as a young teen coming out of junior high. I already knew I was gay when I was very young but really didn’t figure it out until my freshmen year in high school. I’m sure I’m not the only one who has ever felt attracted to a handsome older guy. By older guy I guess anyone above 18 but when you’re a kid everyone is ancient! As to this guy, if he lied about his status, he should be charged accordingly. On a side note, I’ve always found it interesting that when an older woman has sex with a young man under 18, the guy is practically congratulated by everyone. Sure, what she did was wrong but how many people really believe the young man was a victim since he was getting his rocks off as well? It seems to me that people really have it in against male sexuality, gay or straight. Just food for thought.
ppp111
@Bjk:
You don’t have to tell me, I agree with you. But if Mike was an attractive woman and the 14-year old boy was straight, do you honestly believe people would feel the same way? Think about it before you answer. You and I know how most mainstream Americans feel about that kind of relationship. To them, there is no victim only memories that will make a great movie or some American Pie bullshit.
Stache1
@joey: I haven’t heard anyone here say it’s no big deal and I know that doesn’t exactly fit with what you want to say. Lets just try to keep it on subject a bit before we all unravel once again into hysterics and the drama fest.
btjr10
@pcolibri80: cannot agree more! He doesn’t like twinks period! Something is not right here. Goes to show what lengths people go to stab others in the back!
Captain proton
Either by his stage name or by his real name, there’s no mention of this story anywhere except here and at the one source.
One would expect a headline like “HIV+ porn star rapes 14 year old” to blaze across the internet, with Xtian organizations blowing their tops condemning the guy (and gays in general).
Where’s all the fire and brimstone?
Bob LaBlah
@Captain proton: As the saying goes “you get what you PAY for”.
shuapriz
What all of you fail to realize is what apps like “Jackd” and “Grindr” are used for AND that they specifically state you must be 18 years to use this. The 14 year old “victim” willfully downloaded the application, disregarded the age requirement, and sought out the gay male in question. There are block user buttons and report user buttons that can be used if felt threatened or uncomfortable but the “victim” failed to use these. Dozer unknowingly participated in sexual acts with another male he may have believed to be 18 or older because that is the requirement for all users of these apps previously stated.
shuapriz
@shuapriz: actually he did know prior to sexual intercourse.. BUT regardless, the kid shouldn’t have been on the adult application. This would not have happened otherwise.
diklikkr
I was 13 when I gave my first BJ and the guy was 18. If this is true then it would definitely be a black eye for the gay male community…I love these hook up apps that also foster the idea that we are all a bunch of sex addled predators just looking for the next hot scene…If I were single these days I’d just go to the garage turn on the car and take my last nap…At 55 I became irrelevant for gay sex and dating over 15 years ago…Unless I were quite wealthy then it wouldn’t matter.
tricky ricky
@E.Ashleigh: you are a bloody fool.
sobedoug
@E.Ashleigh: As stated by the CDC: “People with an undetectable viral load still have HIV in their body, which means there is a chance that they can transmit HIV through sex or sharing needles or injection equipment. An HIV-positive person can infect a partner even if they have an undetectable viral load, because
HIV may be found in genital fluids (e.g., semen, vaginal fluids). The viral load test only measures virus in blood. Although antiretroviral therapy also lowers viral load in genital fluids, HIV can sometimes be present in genital fluids even when it is undetectable in the blood. Your viral load may go up between tests. When these “blips” happen, you may be more likely to pass HIV to sexual partners. Sexually transmitted infections (STIs) increase viral load in genital fluids. This means that an HIV-positive person with an STI may be able to transmit HIV to sexual partners even if the blood viral load is undetectable.”
ChiChi Man
I love the defense that Dozer “attempted” to end relations after finding out the boy was underage but the boy pursued him. Um, the reason we have laws regulating behavior for kids is because they’re too young to know better. Dozer is an adult. He knew he was breaking the law and should suffer the consequences. If Dozer were 18, I’d cut him some slack for being young and stupid like the other boy. But 33?
The b.s. that the reckless endangerment law is homophobic is offensive. Straight men have been charged with reckless endangerment for not disclosing their status. Also, nondisclosure of ANY STDs is a crime in many jurisdictions. Finally, treatment for HIV is far more expensive because (to use the lawyer’s bizarre comparisons) unlike a cold or strep throat (or even gonorrhea or syphilis), treatment lasts the rest of one’s life. While I do believe we need to give up the idea that HIV is a death sentence, we need to be honest that being on meds forever is not a day in the park.
jbeau
http://www.phoenixvillenews.com/general-news/20131229/del-man-charged-in-limerick-sexual-assault-case
From the link above, it appears Dozer did indeed know the kid was 14 and DID NOT CARE. It is disgusting that people are “blaming the victim” here and saying if the 14 year old weren’t on Jack’d this wouldn’t have happened. Uhm no, if Dozer wasn’t a freaking perverted pedophile this wouldn’t have happened. How can someone take the side of a disease-addled prostitute over a child?
diklikkr
@jbeau: 14 is not a child 12 year olds in Somalia carry AK 47s and you should look up the definition of what is considered pedophilia. Dozer is by definition a sleazy pederast. This typical puritanical response to calling someone a pedophile who has sex with anyone under 18 is so predictable. Age does not define maturity. Dozer at 33 is stupid and immature and a 14 year old using a sleazy hook up app is what it is. Darwin awards to all. If it makes you feel any better Dozer will more than likely get shanked in jail or killed. To be clear I am not defending him he broke the law and put someone at risk for HIV. It’s gays like this that make us all look bad.
Mikey
I don’t think we can trust what a 14 year old on Jack’d has to say about anything. We shouldn’t jump to any conclusions about Mike Dozer’s intentions because the news release is very one-sided. Plus, the 14 year old is already a proven liar (using an app that explicitly says you have to be 18 and up).
I think something important is left out of this story. How did it come to light? Did the 14 year old (who was cruising for guys on Jack’d and having sex with at least one of them) – suddenly feel like a rape victim and tell on Mike Dozer? That doesn’t sound logical. If a 14 year old is hooking up with guys online, there’s something wrong with them. Either mentally, emotionally, or in the home. So he either got caught, and the parents are treating Mike Dozer as a predator, or he’s disturbed and has some kind of agenda.
This isn’t To Catch A Predator. This is a horny 14 year old who possibly could have passed as an adult, cruising for guys online, and then fucking at least one. If someone LOOKS like an adult, and tells you’re they’re an adult, why would you think to probe any further? To the people that are saying you’d know that a 14 year old is 14, I call bullshit on that. I’ve seen 14 year olds on American Idol that look like they’re in their 20s. I’ve also seen people who are in their 20s who look like they’re 14. I think this case is going to come down to physical evidence (the texts, emails, etc) because you can’t believe the testimony of a liar. If there’s evidence of him telling Mike his real age before they hooked up, then lock him up and throw away the key. If there isn’t, then there’s no case IMO unless Mike admits to knowing.
“At some point, he came to the realization that this person wasn’t 18 and took off,” Wray (Mike Dozer’s attorney) said. “This kid kept pursuing him and apparently had done so with others.”
THAT has a ring of truth to it. Sounds like the kid was obsessed and bitter.
Aries3dc
Personal responsibility. Why is a 14 yr old on Jack’d? You have to be 18 to join the site. The child obviously lied to even get an account. And now a man is going to jail for giving him what he wanted. Ridiculous.
At 14, you’re a freshman in high school — old enough to know right from wrong. We’ve all been young and gay at that point in life. As for me, I wanted every coach at my high school…and I assure you it would not have been rape had I gotten them!
DarkZephyr
This man will probably be going away for a very long time.
Cam
To the people on here saying this isn’t a big deal because HIV isn’t a death sentence anymore I have one question.
If it was possible, and he purposely gave somebody diabetes would you think that was something harmless? That is also a manageable disease. But it still is a major life changer with horrible effects and difficult medication. Of course that is a horrible thing to do. And come on…how do you not know a 14 year old is under 18?!?!
Mikey
@Cam: Have you seen a picture of the kid? If you haven’t, you can’t judge. There are plenty of 14 year olds who look 18 or older. Here’s Tom Daley at 15. http://www.bbc.co.uk/devon/content/image_galleries/tom_gallery_world_champion_gallery.shtml He could easily pass as 18.
According to Mike’s attorney once Mike found out that he wasn’t 18 he split immediately, and the kid wouldn’t stop trying to contact him.
MattY86
I posted about this on another site and decided to copy and paste here. First a few additional things. Please keep in mind that I am in no way defending what Dozer did, I’m simply pointing out that I don’t believe these issues are ever so black and white. There is are lot of gray areas. I obviously agree with statutory rape laws, but I also believe that there comes a point where we need to look closer at the “victims” involved. I believe there comes a certain age when kids today know what they’re doing. I think 14 is too young yes, but this kid downloaded an app used for gay cruising, lied about his age, exchanged nude photos and willing gave the man his location with the intention of engaging in sexual acts. I also don’t know how anyone is “forced to take poppers” but that’s another story. When teens that are older, 15, 16, even 17 in some states, are willing participants in these situations and seeking out of their own free will, why are they victims? They are certainly old enough to be aware of what they’re doing. I don’t agree with any type of sexual activity involving children, but I think the punishments and laws should be changed based on certain circumstances. If someone rapes or molests a child of any age, throw the book at them and lock them away. But if the vicitm in question was an older teen, who is/was a willing participant, I don’t believe the punishment should be as severe. Even the name “statutory rape” should be changed. Rape by definition implies forcing someone against their will. If the victim is willing and it is consentual, it is not rape. Here was the rest of my post:
There are a few separate things I’d like to comment on here. First, It is possible that the kid was a mature looking 14 year old and it’s also possible that’s bs. Let’s be real, how many of us who use hook up sites or apps ever ask to see ID when we meet up? 90% of the time you’re not even getting the guys real name. It’s possible he got duped by the kid. Let’s try and remember that are some pretty dumb people out there who can easily be tricked. The kid could have looked older and also lied and said he was young looking for an 18 year old. In this day and age it can very tricky because teens have access to all these apps. They create fake birthdays and download the free versions of the apps or join websites as free members. My bf got duped a few years back and he only just found out recently the kid had lied. Over 3 years later. Granted the kid wasn’t 14, but he said he was 18 and about graduate high school. The kid even had a car a drove 40 minutes to my friends place. The kid was also very sexually experienced and apparently it showed. Flash forward to a few months ago and he found the kid was actually 16 (6 weeks away from turning 17) and high school junior. He was well built because he was very involved in football and baseball. He drove his car illegally with just a learners permit. I’m not saying Dozer did nothing wrong, I’m just saying it can possible to get tricked.
My next point is that I actually agree with the lawyer on his stance of the HIV and being charged with reckless endangerment. I am not saying it’s not wrong, but I agree that people who knowingly have a contagious illness and hook up with some should all be held accountable, or none at all. HIV is not AIDS and it doesn’t mean an early death. It is very highly treatable and now considered by many doctors to be a chronic condition like diabetes (in treatment terms). With the right treatment and regular monitoring, people with HIV lead perfectly normal, long and healthy lives. But if you want to use the argument that it could lead to death, then the same should be said for the flu, strep throat, and many other illnesses. People can and do die from those diseases and other times can suffer permanent, severe effects. People who knowingly spread herpes and other STD’s that have no cure are never prosecuted. My point is if we are going to prosecute people who know they have HIV, we should follow the same protocol for anyone who has a contagious disease or illness. We should also consider the fact that many, many people engage in random sexual acts with strangers they meet online, through apps,or at bars. They have unprotected sex, or engage in sex acts without the use of protection with people they don’t know and are only meeting for the sole purpose of sex. Why shouldn’t that be taken into consideration? I am an attractive, fit, sexually active man in my early 30?s. I like to have my fun, but I play safe. I will say this, I have had my fair share of sex partners since I became sexually active (with men) at around 19. I have noticed a that over the course of that time, half of them would have not used protection if I hadn’t initiated it. This has become more common the last 5 or 6 years. Almost every guy I have ever hooked up with either tried to penetrate me bare, or tried to have me penetrate them bare. I was the one who always had to stop the action and insist on condoms. Only about 3 guys had actually done it without me having to prompt them. and 2 of those 3 tried to go bare after having hooked up just a few times. And almost none have ever done any type of oral with condoms. Let’s try and remember that getting tested for and type of STD’s or STI’s is not mandatory and even people who get regular checkups, it’s not part of routine check ups. You need to specifically ask your doctor test you. I guarantee that if everyone was made to be tested for all of these things, you’d see the number of cases in the world skyrocket.
Jules1949
In France the age of sexual consent is 15. In Spain it is 13. In England it is sixteen. I believe the age of consent should be the age of puberty. Everyone reaches puberty at a different age and should be allowed to get a medical certificate proving that he/she can have intercourse with consent. In Muslims countries girls, if married young, are respected until their first period. My favorite book ‘the hellespont’ was not published by an American company because a sixteen or seventeen year old consents to a 19 year old. The law is an ass as if often quoted from Johnson.
joey
@Stache1: i was loosely reffering to the this guy’s lawyers comments that we dont hold people with sore throats colds or heperes responsible. the phrase “big deal” is mine. i understand your point. that lawyer seems to think this isnt a big deal and i disagree. i have never bb in my entire life yet about 1.5 yrs ago contracted hep b, i had the vaccines but they dont last forever ( i thought they did) my doc said for some they dont. i was/am so upset about this that i just stopped fucking it sucks, i miss it but i’m just too terrified of fuckin up again. hiv tests would drive me crazy i get so paranoid that someting went wrong. when i find myself missing fucking i just try to reinforce how i felt going for testing and how i felt when i learned i got hep b then i dont seem to miss fuckin so much. ironically i am on a hiv drug for the hep b my doc says i should “clear” what ever that means
DShucking
@Mikey: Are you kidding? Tom Daley looks 12 in that picture and no matter what age he is now he certainly doesn’t look 18 yet.
DShucking
@Aries3dc: Yes, it would have been rape.
MattY86
Are there any lawyers who read this page? I was just wondering if the fact that the kid downloaded an app and “agreed to the terms..” stating that he was 18 is something that can be used by his lawyer as a defense? I’d think it would be. Obviously this is a separate issue from the HIV aspect, but I’m just wondering. Since the company that runs the app is protected by that disclaimer, why wouldn’t it’s members be?
Jackhoffsky
@MattY86: When a person goes to write a will, there is a clause stated that the person is not doing so under duress or under extreme circumstances:
“I ________, being of sound mind and body declare…”
Sex isn’t a legal binding anything unless it results in a disease or pregnancy. But a horny teenager with a fantasy is not of ‘sound mind’ because, honestly, who of us were in our right minds as a horny 14-year-olds? But neither is he (technically) of ‘sound body’ as he will not fully develop who he is as a man until 20-22.
As I mentioned, no matter how you look at this, there is nothing salvageable about the story… nothing. And yes, horny teenagers are going to be horny teenagers, they are not blameless any more than if they went into school and shot up the place, or gang stalked a kid to beat him up.
But as adults, we have to seriously think about what we’re doing when jumping into bed with a horny teenagers, or even if they look like horny teenagers (especially as we age). No matter what, the situation never ends up well… never. As adults, you’d think we’d learn that lesson by age 33, and if we don’t, then yes we deserve what Dozer is getting.
BJ McFrisky
@MattY86: Unfortunately, even if the minor in question lies about his age, the courts see it as the adult’s responsibility to make sure of that fact.
DarSco
well 33 year old people, male or female, should NOT be having sex with minors. It’s against the law, these kids can become sorta obsessed with the older one, too many problems & it’s NOT LEGAL!
If you are HIV+ you should ALWAYS have protected sex. It’s not morally right to do it w/o protection. It’s not morally correct to pass on any std.
The guy is guilty of statutory rape anything added on is kinda biased(sorry) but it is. I mean then we have to charge any1 with an std with the same thing and that will clog the courts. $1million bail is ODing.
Stache1
@joey: Well, first off it’s unlikely that you contracted Hep B from fucking. However, you can easily pick it up from contaminated food, needles, or rimming. Also, not sure why your doctor is putting you on HIV meds. Once you you get it you’ll always have it but it’s not really a “big deal” unless you have chronic symptoms.
DShucking
I think some of the views here are leftover from the old days when the gay community welcomed NAMBLA as a part of its community. They’re no longer a part of our community for good reason. In part, because gay people aren’t child molesters. Wake up!
Caleb in SC
So did Queerty finally pull the plug on that awful troll jimbryant?
KittyLitter
@DarSco: All STDs are not =. Some are far more detrimental than others . you’re basically saying that Crabs is equal to HIV. which it obviously is NOT. Genital warts are just gross- but again- not deadly- they’re not life-altering.
@pcolibri80:
pcolibri80
Something doesn’t seem right here because another porn star just said on his fb account that Mike Dozer doesn’t even like twinks
Notice how you said he said “doesn’t even like twinks” and not “Didn’t commit this crime” “that article is totally false.”
MattY86
@jackhoffsky I appreciate your point, but a horny teenager can’t be compared to someone who’s not of sound kind and body. If being horny could fall under that category then rapists would use the same defense. And I’m not trying to defend Dozer or “salvage” anything from this story. Simply stating my observations. The kid lied and said he was 18 to sign up for the app, he exchanged explicit messages and pictures and willingly met up to engage in sexual acts. My point is that at some point we need to differentiate between molesting or raping and the victim being a consensual party. Not saying Dozer wasn’t wrong, just saying the circumstances in my opinion shouldn’t are not so cut and dry. A few years ago in my town we had an issue with a child who was molested by a priest. The kid was 13. I thought the priest deserved his long sentence, but during the trial it also came out that the boy consented to the acts, and willingly, on his own, went back to the priest on multiple occasions to seek out more. I’m not saying it’s right by any means, it disgusts me. But the kid wasn’t physically forced or raped,and he admitted that the priest didn’t push him to do anything he didn’t want, nor did the priest pressure him to return. He did it all on his own. Wrong yes, priest an animal? Yes. But I think there’s a difference in a situation like that and and actual rape or something involving a much younger victim. And this was before the apps and websites they have now which makes it even easier for teens to seek out sex.
Stache1
@Cam: No here has said it’s “not a big deal”. The lawyer has said that’s just what lawyers do. Not even worth talking about.
MattY86
@bj McFrisky if that’s true, then aren’t the administrators of jack’d also responsible for not “checking” to validate his actual age? And can’t Dozer now turn around and sue them since he could say he was under the assumption the app monitored that? I’d think so.
Dev.C
Wait where does it say that they had unprotected sex? and why is a 14 year old on a Adult hook-up App?
When I was in high school if given the opportunity I would have definitely had sex with an older guy, i think at 13 I probably would have. The fact that a teenage gay boy is pursuing a adult male is not the uncommon thing here, I’m more curious to know If the boy does appear to look older then he actually is.
DShucking
@Caleb in SC: I doubt it. He was just here last night. He might have been hit by a car and rushed to a hospital where there is no wi-fi because he certainly doesn’t sleep or have a job.
Respect4all
@DShucking: Some gay people are child molesters, but no more so than straight people.
Stache1
@KittyLitter: You’ve completely missed DarSco’s point and stop with your idiotic baiting.. “Crabs is equal to HIV”. I can see what you’re trying to do. Eff off Hysterical Drama Queen.
diklikkr
Dozer screwed up big time. But if I had a chance to get with that ? Who could say NO..???
KDub
So basically we have HIV, rape (statutory) and pedophilia all in the same gay story. Way to break stereotypes, Dozer! All you guys defending this slime and blaming the 14 y.o. look ridiculous. This will be a great “I told ya so” moment for the Russians, republicans and evangelicals.
DShucking
@Respect4all: Well of course. Straight people make up the majority of child molesters from what I’ve always understood, which is in contrast to the way we’ve been portrayed as the child molesters. I just think we banished NAMBLA in part to clean up our image to straight society and basically, I don’t even know how NAMBLA got thrown in the with gays. Must have been a time when we were so in the dark that we were desperate to increase our numbers only learning later, as we became more accepted, what the hell NAMBLA was actually all about. It’s such a shame that Harry Hay was a member until he died. It puts a real damper on his legacy.
Stache1
@MattY86: I hear what you’re saying but 14 is way too young to even give consent. Makes no difference whether they wanted it or not. Whether they followed him or lied on an app.
Now if the kid looks to be say 20 then I guess they’ll have a point. However, if he looks to be around his age like most do then his defense team better be good.
Then there’s the allegations that have been made by the kid and the police saying he knew already and said he didn’t care. If they recorded that then I guess he’s fucked.
Stache1
@KDub: Hadn’t really thought of that till now. Yeah, the guys doing us NO favors. Who needs NAMBLA anymore when we have idiots like this.
darkorient
What? The kid is 14 and he couldn’t tell that he’s too young? Bullshit. This guy’s a crook, I hope he’ll get what he deserves.
MattY86
@stache1 I agree 14 is young, my point wad that should having consensual sex with a 14 year old be considered the same as actually physically raping them? Or raping an even younger child? I don’t condone the act, I question why the laws don’t differentiate between the different sex crimes involving children. The adult is guilty of a crime regardless, I just believe the word rape doesn’t apply when the other party is consenting. And I don’t believe the punishment should be of the same severity.
@KDub I don’t think anyone is defending Dozer. I’m certainly not. Calling into question the credibility, intentions, and responsibility of the victim and the administrators of the app, as well as the the laws, isn’t condoning the actions of Dozer. Take a look at our legal system and look at all stupidity that goes on. People can torture and kill a puppy, and get no time to maybe a year. But crimes that involve no acts of violence or cruelty can get you years.
And @DevC I totally agree with you. I became sexually active myself at 13. It wasn’t with anyone illegally at that point,but everything I did and whoever I did it with was all consensual and wanted. When I was 16 I was having sex with a 20 year old. Totally and completely consensual and I wanted it every time. There comes a point where we have to question how innocent a victim is. I have a 14 year old in my family and she could never pass for 18. But she had friends (both male and female) that could certainly pass for a young 18 or even 17 ( legal age of consent here). I don’t think Dozer deserves to get off the hook on sex with a minor aspect, but I certainly don’t think what he did is as bad as bad as other crimes against kids and teens (again, not talking about his HIV status and that whole other issue, but i made my opinion known on that
earlier)
KittyLitter
@Stache1: nope. I did not. Adding HIV to his charges is not biased. Failing to disclose your HIV to a sexual partner is a crime in its own. 25 years. So instead of charging him on two separate accounts they merged them together.
We are all not “HIV=”
Stache1
@MattY86: All I know is that I wouldn’t want to be in this guys shoes right now. He’s looking at a very long prison sentence. Not to mention your reputation completely destroyed.
I remember another Pornstar a couple years ago going to prison for going to a meet up with a 15 year old boy for sex. It was a sting operation. He brought meth with him too which caused him to get a huge prison sentence.
Stache1
@KittyLitter: We all get it. That’s why it’s already been posted in the story. I just get tired of Asshole Queens such as yourself using this as a soapbox moment to peddle your smug self righteous BS. Again, eff off.
diklikkr
@KittyLitter: I love you folks. So pure. So chaste. Such upstanding citizens of the world. Rejoice for this man may be killed in prison. Forget about the fat disgusting pedophile who raped a child not yet two years of age who’s protection in prison is so severe that the place is on lockdown until he gets to have yard. You people think you know shit and have opinions on stuff ??? I still have nightmares because I fought back to some skinheads who tried to kill me and I went to prison for ONE YEAR. So please. STFU and get a real life.
DShucking
@diklikkr: Why did you go to prison?
MattY86
I don’t think anyone would want to be in his shoes. And I think he deserves to do away for the crimes he committed, I just call into question certain aspects of story. I’m 32 and my “type” has always been the college frat boy type. Not thinks, and not illegal, but that college jock look has always been my thing. I don’t like twinks. I can say that at my gym there are a lot of very hot, well built young men. I check them out all the time. There have been multiple occasions where I over heard conversations and was totally stunned to here them say they were only 16, 17 years old. They certainly didn’t look it at all. But I see the possibility of how some of them get away with passing for older. And as far as no dissing his HIV status, I don’t disagree with that being a crime obviously, I just don’t understand why that’s a crime punishable by 25 years, but the same isn’t true for engaging in sexual acts knowing you have other contagious illnesses. There are tons of people with herpes that know and don’t tell. The flu and strep throat can also be fatal. Yet there is no one going to jail. If the law was equal then it wouldn’t be discrimination, but only people who have HIV and do this get persecuted for the crime. I don’t think it shouldn’t be a crime mind you, I just don’t believe these people should be singled out over others who knowingly spread any type of disease or illness. Fatal or otherwise.
DShucking
@MattY86: I’m out of the loop. Are twinks actual underage guys or does it refer to young-looking, skinny but of-age guys?
MattY86
@DDhucking I can’t be 100% sure lol. In my own personal definition it implies of age, but young looking and slim built. Also smooth. My interpretation has always been a twink is the legal version for those who are into those that are into the younger types. I never really looked into it because it was never really my thing. Not that I stuck to my type all the time, but i prefer a bit more of a masculine, beefier type. Whether it’s muscle or even a few extra pounds. I guess I never thought too deeply about it lol. Sorry guy. Google can answer that question I’m sure.
diklikkr
@DShucking: Cause I beat the crap out of that F**K, him and his four friends didn’t think some queer would fight back. So they and their family testified against me. I had no one to back me up. But they had so many. Small town homophobia at it’s best. They kinda thought I was gay ? So they sent a cute guy to bait me, right ? Did not even make the papers. So F**ked up.
Stache1
@MattY86: I can see a mistake being made around 17 years of age. 14 though? No way. At the very least I’d want to see their ID first.
I’ve never understood that myself. I love MEN and everything that goes with it. These dudes chasing after young twinks I’ll just never understand…ever. I mean do they feel like playing daddy or something.
My problem with HIV laws is that it’s usually used by some queen as revenge. Have I had sex with someone that’s HIV pos and they didn’t tell me. Most definitely yes and probably plenty of times. Did I want to then go to the police and report them. Hell no. I take responsibility for myself meaning I play safe. I’m not some silly ass Queen that needs the state to protect my ass.
diklikkr
@DShucking: Convicted of battery and terrorist threat cause they said that I SAID I will kill you, you Mother F**KER. One year and 4 years on parole.
DShucking
@diklikkr: Sorry to hear that. Fucked up.
Stache1
@DShucking: Underage is usually referred to as young twinks. I’ve never been referred to as a twink even when I was young. So I think it’s mostly just a certain type of build but it’s not past the age of say 25.
Jackhoffsky
@MattY86: Rape is a crime of anger, not a crime of passion. Being horny isn’t either anger or passion – it’s a chemical alteration in the body. To link rape and being horny is not only faulty psychology, but also a failure of understanding human sexuality.
Whether a horny teenager is consenting or not is NOT the issue. Remember that cults like Scientology essentially started by deceiving underage teenagers into having sex. Tricking kids to do what you want is easy… especially if the kid is looking to be tricked. THAT is not the issue.
The issue is about the OTHER SIDE of the equation… the ADULT SIDE.
I once heard from a pedophile (more pederasty, actually) that all children become dirty at some point… might as well be the one to dirty them. I responded by stating all people die at some point, why shouldn’t I just shoot him in the face and be “the one” for him? Eventuality is not a reason for catalyst – especially when male vitality, ego, and coping with getting old come into play.
So justify sex with teenagers all you want. In this case the BEST case scenario where the boy was consenting, willing, open, and wanting it repeatedly, he STILL has to now endure publicity, scrutiny, and a trial… all of which he is not emotionally equipped to handle (who would be??). Every sex scandal in history proves people twice, three times his age cannot even handle this sort of tornado.
Going in, this kid was going to get SOMETHING broken… his heart, his health, his mind, something. My issue is that we all know this. WE ALL KNOW THIS. And it begs to question the mental state of someone who would go in and do it anyway.
MattY86
@jackhoffsky please read more carefully before you respond. The first part of of your response just reiterates a point I already made in response to someone else
And you’re also essentially agreeing with i
What I said, I don’t understand why you directed that at me. And the second part is clear that you either didn’t read thoroughly or didn’t comprehend what you read, but at no point did I ever justify or condone sex with teenagers. As a matter of fact, while I haven’t read every post in this thread, of the many I did read I saw no one actually condoning it. Simply pointing out the gray area of the law, and the victims actions, doesn’t mean myself or anyone else condones what went down. I’m pretty sure I mentioned multiple times that’s I want defending Dozer.
Jackhoffsky
@MattY86: I did. You’re talking in circles. I enjoy that.
You said there are a lot of grey areas legally. There are not. Legally it’s black and white, but what is “black” and “white” is something we cannot determine as we are not privy to the details of the case. Going with the “he was trying to stop the relationship” defense and having the teenager agree it was consensual presents one picture of legal “black” and “white” while if the kid’s parents get the kid to say ‘rape’ or (worse yet) if it WERE actual rape that is a different scenario of “black” and “white.” From that standpoint, the lawyers go at it. But we don’t have this information.
And legal or not, this is clearly an issue where someone created their own problem.
Thus, the conversation shouldn’t be around how the legalities work (as we have no clue to the specifics of such) but how we, as adults, should avoid being anywhere in the ‘grey’ area. There is too much collateral damage to make any hook up worth it.
Plus “If being horny could fall under that category then rapists would use the same defense” was pretty much the second stupidest thing I read on this thread. Sorry.
Franco C.
He deserves all the time in jail that he gets. Unbelievable. There is absolutely no defence for what he has done. Is this the life he had in mind when he was young? So heart breaking, on many levels.
DShucking
@Jackhoffsky: What do you mean by ‘actual rape’?
MattY86
@jackhosky if I’m talking in cores then why is you’re having such a hard time keeping up? Clearly you’re getting lost somewhere along the way. My reference to gray area was not about the actual laws. Any law, once a law, is black and white, that doesn’t mean. They’re necessarily fair. I’d give you a list of stupid laws that are unrelated to this but I’d be afraid to lose you again. Anyway My point was that according to law certain offenses are treated equally and I don’t believe they should be. I believe there should be different levels for offenses. Hence the gray area I was referring to. As far as my comment being the stupidest, well that’s sad considering some of the garbage that I’ve seen and heard. But considering how difficult it seems to be for you follow and comprehend certain things I don’t take any offense to your inability to grasp the point I was trying to make. So let me clear it up for you. I wad responding to another post where someone stated that someone simply being horny makes them not of sound mind. So my comment was intended to point out the lack of validity in that comparison.
cajunincorpus
@MattY86: @MattY86: It is against the law for any persons under the age of 18 to enter into a legal binding contract with another person, business, corporations, entity, etc. The law does not recognize any contracts in which persons under the age of 18 entered into them.
MattY86
Thank you cajunincorpus. So if that’s the case, how do all these apps and websites protect themselves by simply having someone click an agreement saying they’re 18? There’s no actual confirmation of the age and as you just pointed out anyone under 18 can’t enter into any type of legal contract. I would think that these businesses would want to protect themselves in situations like this.
mcflyer54
@E.Ashleigh: 16,000 people died last year from AIDS. Yes, for most HIV is manageable but even then there are some side effects, often very unpleasant and difficult to deal with.. Failure to protect yourself, while is certainly the right of each individual, but failure to protect someone else, especially a minor is justification for serious legal action and is not being homophobic.
Stache1
@mcflyer54: Is there anything else or are you done with your little soap box moment. Yes we all know HIV is bad and all the rest. No one is saying this guy is a saint darling. Everyone here pretty much agrees that he needs to be punished. You have anything else to add that hasn’t been said a zillion times already?
pscheck2
I think it is a stretch for him to mistake a 14 y/o for a 18 y/o! Some sites send me pics of twinks that are obviously not 18, yet they claim they only show 18 or older twinks. (I delete them immediately). this guy is a well seasoned adult and probably is a male Lothario who goes after young studs, so he should know when he is dealing with someone under age, regardless of their claims that they are older. Perhaps what he should do is set his ‘sights’ a little higher and go after the college crowd and leave the younger stuff alone with their skate boards.
Bjk
MattY86… aren’t you just sayiing “he was asking for it”. Like when a woman wears a miniskirt and low-cut top. “She’s asking for it”. The law says a minor is incapapble of making a reasoned argurment for sex. To say there is a gray area only really works if you mean the age of consent should be raised. Saying it should be lowered goes against everything we know about child psychology. At 10, 12, 15, 16, kids want to stay up all night, drink, smoke, take drugs, and have sex. Society has decided we will not allow children to act this way because empirical research has shown how detrimental underage sex and drug use is. Adults must be held to the highest level of responsibility when dealing with sex partners. “No” means “no” even if it’s just the law saying so. A case in Iceland recently found a 16 year old contacted a man, arranged to meet, and had sex at his initiation . The court found the adult guilty, and made him pay damages to the 16 year old because HE IS STILL A CHILD. Children are not a gray area.
Bjk
@ppp111
sorry to have missed your post. Until Mary Kay Leterno (?) I would have agreed, but now, more and more women are being charged with rape.
Merv
@Bjk: A sixteen year old is not a child. It’s an adolescent. Big difference.
Still, adolescents often have very bad decision making skills, and sexual activity between adults and young adolescents should be discouraged. However, the lengths we go to discourage the activity is often way over the top. If there is no evidence of harm in a particular instance, then the intrusion of the legal system should be minimal or non-existent. Consensual sex without harm really isn’t that big of deal. Save the big guns for cases where there is evidence of coercion or abuse of authority.
MattY86
@Bjk no I am not saying that at all. Please don’t put words in my mouth. Perhaps I should clarify why I hate the term statutory “rape” since people seem to he unclear. Rape us defined as “the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.” the key words here are “physical” and “force” I never said it was ok for anyone to have sex with a minor, I simply said that I believe the laws and punishment should be different based on the age if if there was consent. I never said the act should go unpunished, but in the case of an adolescent who was a consensual party, I don’t believe the law should refer to it with use of the work rape. I also don’t believe the punishment should be as severe as someone who actually rapes a minor. And you can pull out all the psychology terms you want, you cannot compare someone who is actually not of sound mind (usually as a result of illness, disability or some type of impairment) to simply being horny. I have some training in child psychology for my job and work along side numerous child psychologists and social workers. So I do have some background and insight. And I can tell you there is a very big difference in the mind set and maturity of a child and adolescent.
joey
@Stache1: it can be passed sexually, i never used needles. the drug is called “Viread” if you look it up you will see its also an hiv drug, because both hiv and hepatitis are viruses. he said i that i might clear and as i mentioned i’m not exactly sure what that means. he said this is a good drug for it and that most people become “undetectable” (i hate that word its such a scarlet letter word) anyway undetectable means i still have it, and no doubt i will have to constantly watch this so it does not bounce back for the rest of my life. oh and i can never drink again either alcohol is very bad for it
joey
@Stache1: oh and of course about your statement its not a big deal unless it becomes chronic….well no shit? THIS is what i now need to worry about if this will go semi dormant or will it rage back for some reason, maybe the meds wont work for me…this IS A BIG DEAL
Stache1
@joey: Joey. You’re right. Anytime I hear of someone having Liver failure Hep is usually part of the equation along with drug or alcohol abuse. Each one is hard on your liver but combined with a virus it’s almost a guarantee of fucking it up. I’ve just never heard of using meds for it. I thought it eventually goes dormant and that’s it and hopefully all is good for the rest of your life ..knock on wood. Maybe that’s just something they’ve recently been doing. Very interesting. Btw. I have it myself so I’m in the same boat.
Stache1
@joey: Btw. I’ve had mine for the last 20 years. Got it in my early twenties and I believe just through food as I wasn’t sexually active during that period. At any rate, I haven’t had any symptoms. I drink but moderately. Hopefully, it stays the way it is.
chookiemunster
What was doing a 14 year old in Jack’D?
Yeah, he was looking for sex.
darkanser
@ppp111: I was way too repressed and nearly suicidal at fourteen to have given into such temptations — though there had been lots of offers. In retrospect, I sometimes regret I didn’t. Perhaps, it was just as well. I was to learn later that I had a major daddy complex all along.
cnublvt
Of course he is hot and hairy, love the look, but why should anyone be put in a situation the could someday cause them to die from contact with him all because he chose not to wear a condom? He knows he is HIV+ and chooses to bareback, if the paritcipant is knowledable and willing to engage in sex without a condom, they run the risk of getting what they get. What ever happened to people hooking up using a condom and feeling safe? Oh yeah, they decided that “It doesn’t feel the same as without a condom.”
ellenhow sonded
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LeNair Xavier
Gay media has always incited this behavior of older gay males lusting for young guys. Look at how much the “daddy porn” genre is shoved in our faces. And the creation of websites like DaddyHunt.com. All things telling old guys be the object of lust for and enable these young guys to sexualize their daddy issues.
Some are going to be quick to say “young adults”, but note this FACT: TOO MANY of these twinks look like they’re not even out of high school. Not too long ago, I saw a Vine video of the Maverick Men with such a twink who could have easily been underage like Dozer “victim”. So even if Maverick Men say he’s of legal age, that young guy could have had a fake ID, or being the lust-filled creatures they are the Maverick Men might not have even asked. Especially if that video was a private one. And the same goes for Mike Dozer. With that said, while Mike Dozer is without a doubt wrong for pursuing this young guy, gay media should NOT at all criminalize Dozer. After all, people like Dozer, Maverick Men (and the list goes on) are monsters of their own creation.
This hypocrisy of gay media and the gay community in general is forever disappointing. It’s what makes gay males consider conversion therapy to not be such a bad idea. So as wrong as Mike Dozer may be, this hypocrisy of the media and our community needs to stop.
DShucking
I think it’s awful that we’re in such a lengthy discussion over whether or not it’s okay for a grown man to fuck a 14 year old boy.
WOWfactor
I hear there is a lot of raw sex in prison. Dozer will be in heaven!
regbra
@KittyLitter: nope. we are all hiv, since you can not see it written on a forehead, you are also hiv+. sorry to tell you.
ppp111
Not to get off track but I want to comment on one post who said that these young people should only be with others their own age. [applause]. That’s the way it should be. I also remember an incident years ago when I was interning at a local newspaper. A mother came in and wanted us to promote student abstinence until marriage. My editor said we didn’t take sides in such issues and she went away in a huff. I was close to saying when same sex marriage is fully recognized and accepted in the fifty states then I’ll jump on that agenda.
viveutvivas
These cases have to be judged on an individual basis. Setting an arbitrary age of consent does not serve the cause of justice.
In various European countries the age of consent is in fact 14.
At 14 I would have loved to have sex with Tom Selleck, who must have been 35 at the time. I doubt it would have caused me any harm. Quite the contrary.
viveutvivas
Actually, in MANY European countries the age of consent is 14. In Spain it is even lower at 13.
In Japan it is also 13.
ppp111
@viveutvivas:
Wow. You and I must have really looked forward to those nights MagnumP.I. was on! For me it was even earlier in the late 70s with Lee Majors, Jim Palmer and the jockey ads. I always thought they were so beautiful. Never crossed my mind about that vast age difference. It was only later in my teens that I truly understood. I guess at that age we rarely think about the greater overall picture. Ah we’ll.
Cruzpup
FYI there are teens also targeting HIV+ men, as well as Teens faking there age on sites. What about them shouldn’t they be held responsable as well as there parents. This is not a intend crime, and just because Dozer is Positive, and an Adult Entertainer everyone throws judgement so fast on him. Put yourself in his shoes, and I know for a fact young boys are discovering they are gay and have no outlet but those sites, mobile apps for acceptance, sex, and friends. Is it not a crime to lie on those sites, and why is the boy not being charged with a damn thing.
Stache1
@LeNair Xavier: Chris Hanson needs to bring back the show “To catch a predator”. He could do some porn sting operations too.
I have to admit I had some guilty pleasures watching these guys walk into the trap. The only time I felt bad is when that prosecutor dude shot himself in the head. They went way over board by going to his house.
Liam
I smell trumped up charges by an homophobic society.
jar
@MattY86: Statutory rape is a strict liability crime, meaning that all the prosecutor has to prove is that sex occurred and the party was below the age of consent. There are no defenses. So, the fact that the kid downloaded an app is not a defense at all. Even if he presented fake id, that would not be a defense. The law is strict liability because the law recognizes that children cannot make these decisions, even if they may want to. It’s the right approach- if you have doubts about someone being above the age of consent, do not engage in sexual activity with them.
jar
@MattY86: No, Dozer has no claim against the app. The app did not warrant to him that the kid was of legal age (which would not be a criminal defense). I would bet that one agrees to an extensive waiver when one signs up for this (or any other app).
jar
@MattY86: The key word in rape is “consent,” not “physical” or “force.” The law holds that a child of a certain age (usually under 16) cannot form the requisite consent.
8incheswilldo
Could HIV positive men please stop saying that they are “healthy” and “undetectable”? Both are lies that lead to the situation where uneducated guys may think that taking a load from an “undetectable” guy is safe. The definition of the word “healthy” is easily accessible in any dictionary. Pure semantics. Your infection might be manageable but when you have HIV, you are definitely not healthy. Regarding “undetectable”: that term applies solely to the viral load in blood. The main route of HIV transmission among gay men is bottoming bareback for a positive top and taking his spunk – your body then absorbs infected semen, not blood. Therefore that top’s blood viral load (which might be “undetectable”) plays no part in the aforementioned act. Scientists working on the virus have said many times that there isn’t a semen viral load test available. In fact semen – for whatever reason – might have a high viral load, i.e. be very infectious, when the person actually has an “undetectable” blood viral load. Therefore your viral load is irrelevant when it comes to fucking – it’s the semen viral load that matters. So please stop saying you’re “undetectable” – it’s a pure insinuation. Men with HIV test their blood for viral load as often as once a month and as rarely as twice a year when it might spike up or go down in between the testing on a daily basis due to stress, fatigue, infections, medication taken, drugs, alcohol, etc… Nobody can tell you they are undetectable at the time of intercourse and if they do they are fooling themselves and yourself as well. And what’s up with the “are you clean? DDF?” line? Am I clean? Yes, I just showered. Be bold and responsible guys, ask for his HIV status, not whether he’s clean. Better to have your hot sex bubble burst than get infected. Stay informed and safe y’all!
Stache1
@8incheswilldo: That’s great but where was someone advocating having unprotected sex with someone who’s HIV pos but undetectable?
tdx3fan
I would have to say the reckless endangerment charge fits. Even if he did disclose his status, a 14 year old boy is hardly in the position to understand what that means. Sure, it might not be a death sentence anymore, but if this kid tests positive, his life will be changed in a negative way for the rest of it.
Also, I really think that the lawyer blaming the introduction of the charge to homophobia is HOMOPHOBIC. If this was a HIV+ straight male and a fourteen year old girl, the same charges or worse would have been applied. Thinking that all gay people have HIV or that HIV is a gay disease is the very concept of homophobia imho.
8incheswilldo
Hey Stache1, the answer to your question is: nowhere. But if his attorney’s statements are true then this lawyer is a dangerous, arrogant and misinformed person who should never take cases where HIV is involved. He belittled and patronized the criminal charges and made non-factual statements. He made is sound like just because his client is on medication he is “less” negative, he portrayed his client as a victim, which is a well known last-ditch tactic to defend somebody when all the rest fails. This guy is held on $1m bond and that speaks volumes. There was also an “undetectable” reference in one of the first comments softening the severity of having unprotected sex with “undetectable” guys. It happens to be an extremely common statement (poz, healthy, undetectable) on oll those craigslists, grindrs and adamforadams. It’s just wrong and misleading. The above article touches this subject gently and I decided to explore it in depth. Being “undetectable” is as relevant in butt sex as being balding, left-handed or atheist: non-relevant.
Bob LaBlah
@KDub: How is everything over there in Log Cabin Republicanville? That’s exactly where is sounds like you are commenting from.
Just a little tidbit: As we all know, the evangelicals and the republicans have their flaming hypocrites but few knew about a situation in Russia not too long ago where young army recruits who wanted out of the military where being offered an out providing they did gay video with a company that the military officers involved in the scandal referred them to. My conclusion is to hell with what Russia thinks.
itsmylife
To every single person on here saying anything at all negative about anyone in the article or mentioned by the article:
SHUT THE HELL UP!
Exactly none of this situation is your business. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by feeling outrage over something that you shouldn’t even know about. There are details to the situation which neither you nor I know anything about. You have NO IDEA of what the entire story is. The 1 mil bond? That is because he is HIV+, not because of moral outrage over his fucking a minor, who obviously DID ask for it. It is not like Mike Dozer went to this kid’s place and actually raped him. Before you try and mention that a 14 year old can’t make these kinds of decisions? Yea how about you realize that 14 year olds make these kinds of decisions daily. And they think nothing of the fact that they can put people in jail. Yes, Mr. Dozer should probably have asked for ID. I agree with that. But if he were not a porn star, if he were not HIV+, very little of this would be a big deal to anyone. And you all freaking know it. I do not participate in rape culture, rape is never the victim’s fault – but that is rape, which, in case you were too stupid to notice, is different from statutory rape. The laws having to do with statutory rape don’t really talk about the younger participant engaging in a sex act unwillingly (rape). If there is an element of ACTUAL coercion, the charges brought are molestation, not statutory. Learn to actually stop and use your heads people, instead of reacting. At 14, I had already been being actually molested for several years. If I had had a choice, I would have been happy to give myself to someone willingly. Very few, if any of you know what this is actually like, as demonstrated by your vitriol and reactionary comments. Why not shut the comments section down, take the article down, since frankly, no one has the right to post a speculative article such as this.
Stache1
@8incheswilldo: Do you really care what the lawyer says. Their job is to spin it in their clients favor.
As far as undetectable goes no one is saying it’s 100% safe and go ahead and bareback. They are something like 99% less likely to transmit the virus to someone who has a high viral load is all it means.
jasentylar
@MattY86: Who cares if you got duped…it’s still your fault. You don’t fuck around with kids. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS! Why you would take the chance of getting caught with a kid or someone that young is beyond me. Even if they appeared older, like 18, he should have gotten proof. I don’t give a shit that your bf got duped as you irresponsibly put it. When you’re the adult, its on you. WHatever happens is on you.
Stache1
@tdx3fan: His point that it was ignorant was spot on though.
“We don’t go to people who have herpes, colds, Strep throat and charge them” …I’d also add Hepatitis and Syphilis since their both sexually communicable diseases and could be a disaster on your health. Hep especially. Thanks Joey for educating me on that.
8incheswilldo
Hey Stache1, you represent the majority of gay men’s thinking in this subject but unfortunately you are wrong – there’s no such thing as “undetectable” in gay sex. You’re normally not getting a blood transfusion from your partner during sex, but you might be taking his load up your butt instead. There’s no widely available testing for viral load in semen, men test their blood load as explained in sobedoug’s earlier post and mine as well. You may have a highly infectious cum in a guy with undetectable blood viral load and it has been proven during sophisticated in vitro lab tests but those tests are not available to the general public. This info is available online and from trained professionals. Your statement about men with undetectable viral load in blood being 99% less likely to transmit is absolutely without merit. Unfortunately that’s what gay men believe or want to believe. It’s not a conspiracy theory but a fact and there’s research to back it up.
jsweet1087
I’m not usually a drama queen but I need to say something.
Really? That’s just nasty……end drama
DarSco
@Stache1: thanks for correcting kittylitter at least he has the purrfect handle. It describes his silly views
toshafree
14 Is 14 he is pedophile Anyone sleeping with a child who not of legal age is a pedophile its sad. Its so funny his excuse Is This young man was pursuing him so Hard he couldn’t help not sleeping with him so he admitting nationally that he’s thirsty. Its so sad how parched he must have been
diklikkr
@toshafree: Your terminology IS WRONG he is a pederast LOOK it up.
diklikkr
I checked Dozer out on Raging Stallion. He was totally gross, I take back my comment that I would do it with him ewww!
diklikkr
I had to take several showers just to feel clean again.
E.Ashleigh
@mcflyer54
No where did I say u or any statement I was speaking of homophobic. All I was implying was that HIV is not a death sentence it used to be with medical attention.
Stache1
@diklikkr: Well, you got me curious so I too went over to RS. Funny that I so didn’t get turned on by anything there. Well, except for the one scene of the guy sticking a wrench up Dozers a**;-) Too much over acting and cliche scenes which is a complete turn off for me.
E.Ashleigh
@mcflyer54
Nor did I state that it was ok to have sex with a minor. I simply said that I totally believe that the minor in question,since he already clearly lied about his age on the site or app,whatever the hell it was(every site and app requires u to be 18 yrs or older), that he probably continued to lie even after and may have been the one perusing Dozer. Not that it justifies in any way what happened. We can only speculate what happened and the only ones that know EXACTLY how it went down r those involved and possibly the authorities.
viveutvivas
@itsmylife, “The 1 mil bond? That is because he is HIV+, not because of moral outrage over his fucking a minor, who obviously DID ask for it. It is not like Mike Dozer went to this kid’s place and actually raped him.”
Exactly. There is something about mobs and witch hunts that is irresistible to a lot of people who should know better.
Stache1
@diklikkr: Technically, you’re right. It’s Pederasty. However, when the inmates find out what’s he’s in for it’s most definitely going to just be Pedophile. Apparently, they actually do have their own set of morals in Prison and it’s the lowest you can get.
MattY86
@jasentylar: Thanks for the laugh guy, nothing “irresponsible” about the way I put it. Here is a quick lesson for ya Dupe: to make a dupe of; deceive; delude; trick. My friend met a guy on a website where everyone is supposed to be 18, agree to a waiver verifying they’re 18, he then also claimed to be 18. He also got behind the wheel of a car alone and drove 40 minutes to my friends house, something in our state you are not legally allowed to do unless you are 17 with a driver’s education course (and the legal age of consent here) otherwise you must be 18. My friend didn’t feel the need to check ID. He was duped, perfectly acceptable use of the word given the circumstances. He likes younger (legal aged) guys. That’s who he thought he was meeting as a result of the kids lies.
DaturazChild
@pscheck2: LOL with their skateboards. I don’t know why but that made my night!
DaturazChild
The gay community sure does like to eat its own, but I guess that is true of the population at large. I find it interesting that the sticking point for most people commenting isn’t that Mike Dozer allegedly fucked a minor, but that he is HIV +. Someone even went so far as to say an HIV + man has no business having sex with a minor. So, it’s okay for an HIV – guy? There was not nearly this much outrage over Rob Lopicola, which was the same situation minus the HIV issue.
The judgement and the vitriol with which the gay community treats HIV + people is disgusting. It is born out of ignorance and fear. The gay community wants to be treated with respect by the general population but doesn’t treat its own with respect or even a modicum of compassion. We divide ourselves by age, race, HIV status, Top, Bottom, Bear, Twink etc.
HIV – are always whining about the responsibility of the HIV+ person to disclose. How about some personal responsibility? You’re on your back, legs in the air begging for it and never asking a question other than “How big is it?” Then after you’ve got what you wanted it’s “He should have told me. He had a moral obligation”. I am not saying that HIV + don’t need to disclose but I’m sick of this notion that it’s a one way conversation. Each of us has a personal responsibility to our own physical, emotional and spiritual health and well being. It’s absurd to expect that from others if we are not giving it to ourselves.
Perhaps if HIV – people were not so judgmental then HIV+ people would be more willing to disclose even in the face of rejection if the rejection came with out all of this judgement. It’s time the gay community wake the **** up and start taking care of each other. No one else is going to do it.
Stache1
@DaturazChild: Great points. Also, the reason for the “Were all Equal” campaign.
I now realize why they’ve been getting so much vitriol towards them. I wasn’t as supportive but realize now after reading the comments here what their trying to do.
We have to move beyond “ignorance and fear” which I’m not so sure this community can even do.
gayjim1969
@pscheck2: Not all 14 year olds are twinks. I certainly wasn’t. When I was 13, I was at my current height – 6 feet. I was hairy, broad-shouldered, and had a deepened voice. When I was in 8th grade, people thought I was out of high school, between 18 and 21 years old. I had started puberty at the age of 8.
I have seen many who I would have believed to be over the age of 18 who I later found out were underage. Yes, there are many who fall into the “twink” category (which in general I do not find at all attractive), but there are many who do not, and who can easily pass for 18 or older.
When I was a teen, I was always attracted mainly to hairy, older men. Thankfully, I still am. Don’t be too quick to judge that it’s impossible or unlikely that someone so young could pass for somone older. I lived it.
Kkilee
The boy lied about his age http://www.jackd.mobi/#terms
boomer
The only way this could possibly be a crime is if mike did not disclose his status to the boy and that depends if there is even a law in the state where the encounter took place. Jack’d clearly states that you must be 18 years old to register. This was a horny teenager trying to get laid. This boy is not a victim in the least bit so long as mike disclosed his status
boomer
@KittyLitter: if he disclosed his status then whether the kid contracted HIV is on him. Kids these days have such apathy towards the disease because they never saw the devastation it caused in the past
boomer
@shuapriz: thank you. This is a classic case of a horny teenager trying to get laid
roman65
Irregardless of how the kid was on this sex app matters not legally ,Statutory rape is a liability crime ,all that needs to be established is if sex occured and both parties have said so ,with an electronic trail possibly the HIV disclosure may or may not come to light.His Attorney is not helping him though neither was his own choices.
roman65
@Mikey: I understand your comments in the makes sense logical argument ,however all that needs to be established for Statutory rape is that sex happened ,Wray his attorney even stated he disclosed his HIV before sex, physical evidence text and email will legally just establish intent.
Martin
Jail bait is jail bait no matter what. No amount of pursuing by someone underage should get you to a point where you give in.
I was that kid thirty years ago, when we didn’t know anything about HIV or AIDS. I knew what I wanted and went after it, but times were different then. I started having sex before I had ever heard of a gay cancer.
Today, there should be no reason an individual should have to declare their status. no one can plead ignorance with the amount of awareness that is all around us. If you choose to Bareback then it’s a roll of the dice and you’re putting a lot of faith in someone you don’t know and who’s sole purpose is to get off. Anyway, one’s status should be a moot point if you’re playing safe. If your profile states HIV Negative as of… we’re not a match. I’m negative, have been since 1970, by the grace of God! The 80’s were fun and a blur, but thirty years later and we’re still questioning if someone is ok to bed? I appreciate the guys who feel the need to tell me before we bang one out, thank you for giving me the option to back out or enter knowingly, but your status matters to me not, aside from you’re a gay man and I hope you’re well and taking care of yourself. BUT I’m using a condom regardless and not just in defense against HIV, but I don’t want herpes, the clap, or syphilis. All of which you can catch from an HIV Negative person. I will now get off my soapbox, and tap my finger in the knothole and see if anyone responds. LOL!
Martin
@DaturazChild: Well stated. We all need to think before we type, switch roles, walk a mile and all those, proven cliché’s. Next time instead of pointing a finger, extend a hand.
There’s no alliance to each other anymore, correction, there’s no Gay Alliance anymore, there’s subset alliance – mostly amongst the younger set, but A-List Gays, still only run with A-List Gays, Bears with Bears, Leather with Leather, and so on… although, I find that Bears are the most welcoming of all subsets.
When I was growing up we backed each other up, even if we didn’t know the guy, no one stood alone. Where the hell do you think we got Pride from? Catty bitches laughing and filming as a few drag queens were left on their own? Hell no, all types of gays fought together so gays today could have what we have. Like all veterans of every war, they fought for our liberties, our marriages and right to live unharmed and unhidden, but unlike others that have dealt with a similar plight, we rarely band together, no instead we’re ready to laugh and point and talk shite ostracizing our very own. I’m not talking about people who bed kids; I’m referring to those among us that are HIV+.
Yahoo Thom
Whether you are a STRIGHT MAN, STRAIGHT WOMAN, GAY MAN or LESBIAN…children are children. Throw the book at this guy. Our community should be as strident about pedophilia as the straight community is. This is a beautiful man, he could have any “MAN” he wanted, leave the children alone, it’s pathetic.
darmas
http://www.panewz.com/content/berks-montco-pa-men-charged-sex-exploited-minor
Facts about this case
1) Victim #1 has had sex with at least 5 adult men and over a dozen times
2) “The Summer of 42” was a movie based upon a heterosexual 14 year old boy having sex with a married 30 year old woman. Was this rape? Should this movie have ever been broadcast? Should anyone who watches it be arrested for possessing child porn?
3) Victim #1 carried on a lengthy sexual correspondence via the internet with a man in Oklahoma who has also been arrested. He produced a video of naked teens in his high school locker room for the guy in OK and sent it to him. Is this an innocent prepubertal boy? Hasn’t Victim #1 also committed crimes? Shouldn’t some “children” be prosecuted as pedophiles themselves?
4) There has not been any complaint with law enforcement filed against any of the six men from “Victim #1”; the complaint was filed by his parents. Should law enforcement enforce statutory rape charges if there is no complaintant? Can a minor assert his right not to press charges in cases of consensual sex activity?
5) Mike Dozer is being held on $1 million cash bale; no bond, cash. Is this really fair? He lives in a $100,000 condo in a downscale neighborhood of Newark, Delaware and could never come up with this much money. Is the sexual nature of this case depriving and individual of essential legal right?
6) The prosecution of this case was done by ICE and the Department of Homeland Security. Wasn’t the DHS formed to protect citizens against foreign terrorists? How did they get involved in domestic criminal matters? Are we slipping into a totalitarian state?
7) Victim #1 actively pursued sex with Mike Dozer even appearing unannounced on his doorstep at one occasion. Can teenagers engage in sex without a crime being committed? Shouldn’t anyone have the liberty to have sex if it is of their own choosing without a crime being committed?
8) Mike Dozer is almost always the receptive partner (orally and anally) in sexual matters. The transmissibility of HIV to the dominant partner rarely if ever occurs. Should 14 year old who offer themselves to older men for fellatio worry about contracting HIV?
i43neile
@darmas:
What an ass. He filmed his schoolmates???
johnozed
I had a lot of sex with older men when I was 14, before the age of consent.
It was the 1970’s.
Black Swan
I believe in innocent until proven guilty, and until there is proof that this young boy didn’t in fact lie in the first place then I have no reason but to believe that he did inappropriately seek out sex from his own home computer to have with any older gentlemen who responded. Be lucky it wasn’t you, because this kid was surely lying to ensnare anyone that he could.
I mean, how much are you gonna ignorantly find Mike Dozer guilty for anyway? Actually forcing the young kid online from his own home to seek out sex in the first place? Clearly this young kid was online seeking sex way before Mike Dozer came along, and would have simply found someone else to ensnare in his web of lies, and subsequent accusations of wrongdoing even though the evidence so far points to the young kid perpetrating this crime against, and ruining the life of a perfectly fine gay adult human being.
It’s just coincidence the guy happen to be a rather famous porn star. But I guess you all think he should only be grounded for his end in this sordid story. This is entrapment. It could have happened to any one of you. Mike Dozer is not a pedophile.
Maude
Neither the 14yr old, or Mike Dozer are guilty of any crime.
It’s the parents of the boy that have ensnared and are now
looking for a big payday from Mike.
This case should go national for the public to learn that
it’s they themselves that cause the so called crime.
bearfuzzlover
KittyLitter, I believe you may be out of touch with the facts about HIV, and attacking Mike Dozer’s HIV status. The alleged fact is that a 14 year old boy kept harassing Mike surely has something to do with the trumped up charges, I would suggest … especially as it is also alleged the boy lied about his real age, and mislead Mike (or anyone else) into have consensual sex with him.
Maybe you are not interested in a fair trial and justice, but I believe Mike should be listened to by those who were aware of his comments and not to have judged and charged him at turbo speed on the alleged lies and deceit of a 14 year old sexually precocious brat, and especially as he is said to have asked the boy to leave him alone once learning of the boy’s true age when told to do so. He did not. He kept pestering and harassing Mike, and yet the police saw fit to do nothing about this when reported to them.
I would suggest that you, Kitty Litter, learn to speak fairly before you utter such actions against Mike or anyone else with an HIV status. I wonder … if Mike or someone with an HIV status was a member of your family, would you have been so quick to pull them down? I doubt it!
I want to give Mike my support to fight the vicious trial by media attacks on him. There is little in the way of real substantive evidence that stands up to close scrutiny, according to what I have read and, as is always the way, he has been found guilty based on the alleged lies of a 14 year old boy who wanted to have consensual sex with him … maybe because he thought he liked men or was a gay porn star … AND especially when the boy told Mike he was of a legal age to have consensual sex with him.
With respect, please act with a sense of fairness before becoming Judge and Jury by Medial Trial over Mike Dozer. It could be your turn for adverse comments made about you should you have been found guilty of an offence you claim you are innocent of having perpetrated.
Just, please, give a thought to anyone with a HIV status before you engage the hot air between your ears and make offensive remarks about someone you consider being a social outcast. Mike is not a social outcast just because he was a porn star or was having what he thought was consensual sex with someone over the age of consent. Mike and anyone with an HIV status in a similar situational I consider to be innocent for as many reasons you find him (or them) guilty by your own tainted opinions!
You may be having a Bad Hair Day but it is no reason to display it publicly and with ignorance of HIV. Have a Good day for a change!
Maude
Sex between two or more ‘fourteens’ was common when I was in Jr.High.on the Lower East Side in New York.
Trouble was we couldn’t always find a safe place, so we took chances that we wouldn’t get caught in the bushes, park men’s room, etc.
I can remember getting caught at least 3 times, and all of them were kids our own age….and I think two of them ran away, and one joined in.
One of the guys cousin, a man about middle twenties ‘made it’ with him, and asked him to bring a friend next time.He asked me, and though the man was ‘hot’, I was too scared to go.
norodeocowboy
@E.Ashleigh: Which is just fine for the middle-class, sober-minded folks who went into it with an unaltered and mature mind. Not so much for the poor, the intoxicated, or the mentally disorganized. If things are as described, then this is rape, aggravated assault and attempted murder.