Better late than never, right? Germany is setting aside around $37 million to compensate queer people who were affected by the country’s ban on homosexuality, which lasted from 1871 to 1994. Over a hundred years of victims! Many of course have passed away, and there’s no way to compensate them or their families. And no amount of money can make up for the cultural stigma that generations have endured. But at least this is a strong gesture of reconciliation for those still with us.
Germany, which at times was quite welcoming to queer people, stopped enforcing the ban in the 1950s and 1960s, but tens of thousands were persecuted following World War II. Adolph Hitler was particularly strident in his persecution of queer people, sending 15,000 to concentration camps.
As part of the plan, victims of the law will have their records expunged.
Can you imagine if anyone proposed something like that here? Homosexuality was illegal in various states until 2002, and every now and then people are still arrested by backwards officials for flirting in public. Just imagine if someone in the government proposed that we were entitled to some form of recompense for all the discrimination we’ve endured. Oh, and still continue to endure, since in a lot of states it’s still legal to deny someone a loan, or housing, or an education because they’re gay.
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Hillary Clinton, incidentally, wants to make that kind of discrimination illegal. Donald Trump wants to expand exemptions to nondiscrimination law, making it easier to kick queer people out of their home or their job. Just in case you were still wondering who to vote for, or which historical figure you might want to compare Donald Trump to.
abnerbha
Adolf Hitler’s diet from 1931 onwards was vegetarian. Nazis did pass animal welfare laws which were advanced for it’s time such as Hitler signed law to protect the eagle (Eagle on Swastika is Nazi symbol) and Hitler signed laws which created rules on hunting and Hitler signed laws on fastest way to kill crustaceans. In the end Hitler, his mistress Eva Braun and their dog Blondi all committed suicide.
Adolf Hitler had fascination with these animals. Adolf Hitler fascinated by birds such as ravens, crows & eagles with eagle being national symbol of Germany. Adolf Hitler also had fascination with dogs, wolves, deer & if you look @ German tanks there were Panthers & Tiger tanks. Adolf Hitler & his wife Eva Braun both fascinated with animals & Wagner operas.
abnerbha
Adolf Hitler knew that risk was too high for his dog Blondi to become food for a Soviet soldier, so his mistress Eva Braun and Blondi committed suicide by taking Prussic pill while he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. So it was a mercy killing and 1 could say the dog committed suicide to avoid being food for Soviet soldiers.
Red Army in Germany was killing many people, committing rapes & Soviet soldiers esp. Soviet Mongolians were eating family pets including dogs. Many cases where Germans committed suicide including with their pets because they believed this was lesser evil to having a 10 year old girl raped & murdered by a Soviet soldier and their pets being eaten by Soviet soldiers.
abnerbha
http://www.dailystormer.com/hitlers-germany-a-genuine-sovereign-nation/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407954/Thanks-to-Hitler-hunting-with-hounds-is-still-verboten.html
abnerbha
I am not White & not German. My ancestry’s Indian. But were any of your relatives Commies? I don’t think Holocaust is much different from any other atrocity in history & biggest Holocaust called happened in former USSR committed by Commies some of who were Jewish such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda so 1 can say Holocaust was indirect retaliation for Holodomor. Holocaust should not have happened & I know what I say offends, but Jews were not always innocent. Not controversial to talk about Axis Japan, Nazi Germany & Fascist Italy, yet when 1 talks of Jewish complicity in Soviet Holocaust, then anti-Semitic complaints.
abnerbha
To repeat-I am not White-my ancestry’s Indian, so I’m not German. I have read alot about Holocaust & while I agree with most, I don’t believe all I read. It’s not controversial to talk about Nazi Germans & their allies Axis Japan & Fascist Italy. But when you talk of how many of Stalin’s henchmen & henchwomen such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda, Lev Mekhlis were Jewish who committed Soviet Holocaust called Holodomor, then anti-Semitic accusations & Holocaust denial.
I believe the Wilhelm Johann Gustav Keitel Commissar Order executed Commies. Soviet partisans & Comissars were Commie thugs comparable to Kim Il Sung & Kim Jong Il. Also I am against Iraq War. I am not a Christian but a non-religious person whose ancestry’s Indian, thus cousins with Gypsies (Nazi’s victims). But I believe the Nazis did some good things, though they were tyrants & I agree with Commissar Order.
abnerbha
Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Axis Japan were greedy but they were not cowards & Axis Japanese soldiers fought and died for what they believed & Fascist Italian soldiers fought & died for what they wanted. Nazi German soldiers fought and died for what they wanted. Nazis were greedy but they fought & died for what they wanted and you Nazi soldiers did have courage fighting in battles such as Kursk, Nazi soldiers were not cowards, in that in Stalingrad & Leningrad battles, you must have courage. German Nazi soldiers talk of how they destroyed 3 Soviet tanks in battle & on average, Russians are stronger than Germans & Russian men can be as strong as Black men. Nazi Germans greedy, but Nazi soldiers did have courage fighting against stronger Soviet soldiers in Stalingrad, Leningrad, etc.
Bob LaBlah
@abnerbha: All of THAT notwithstanding how much do you feel ol’ Ernst Rhome’s family should be compensated?
ChrisK
@Bob LaBlah: Don’t expect the abnerbha thing to respond in a logical way. The things quite simply insane.
Bob LaBlah
@abnerbha: “Fascist Italian soldiers fought & died for what they wanted.”
Italy had (for that period in the 20th century) a modern navy, army and air force that rivaled Germany’s but had to resort to using poison gas when they fought the Ethiopians because they weren’t able to use that modern equipment to defeat a bunch of native tribesmen who had so little ammunition and weapons that they resorted to throwing spears. YES, THAT IS A FACT IN HISTORY PEOPLE. A modern army Italy was but THAT’S what they did and even after that they never secured the country of Ethiopia. You can’t find an Italian still living who fought in that war who will say they “proudly” served in it. Italy was a joke and it still is. After Greece, Italy ranks as the second weakest in the European Union.
Kieran
Reality Check: We wouldn’t have legal gay marriage in the US today if it weren’t for the deciding Yes vote cast by Reagan Supreme Court nominee Anthony Kennedy. If Justice Kennedy, a Republican, had voted against legal gay marriage, we wouldn’t have that fundamental civil right today. Everything is not always black and white.
Baba Booey Fafa Fooey
This is good.
I also want to keave this here for Queerty.
http://www.newnownext.com/muslim-school-girls/10/2016/
Kangol
@Kieran: Wait, what? Huh? Who said anything about Anthony Kennedy? When you see a post about Nazis and Hitler’s oppression of LGBTQ people you automatically think of Republicans? Hmmm….
Kangol
@ChrisK: Insane is putting it kindly. Batsh!t bonkers is more like it!
level75RDM
@Kieran: Pretty much, and that’s why I wish all the luck in the world to groups like GOProud or Log Cabin Republicans. I really do hope they one day have enough political clout to influence policy makers in the Republican party. Because when we talk about equal rights, those rights will forever be precarious, with social conservatives banking on the next change in parties to reverse it, until it becomes an issue of which there is bipartisan agreement.
Speaking just in terms of New Jersey for example, we have one very pro-LGBT Republican, Rodney Frelinghuysen, and one very much anti-LGBT Republican, Scott Garrett. If a district MUST vote Republican, we want them to vote in the ones like Frelinghuysen and vote out he ones like Garrett. But those who act in favor always do so at risk of losing support in the party right now.
Brian
A lot of the Nazis had homosexual tendencies but chose to marry women and create children. Happens everywhere.
Bob LaBlah
@level75RDM: @ChrisK: It sounds like he has been hanging around the website Stormfront.org They refer to David Duke and Dr. David Duke.
adamnfool
@BENJI DOUGLAS
Awesome post.
Mikah92
Well,that’s very thoughtful of their government.
It always bothers me whenever someone speaks of the persecution of Jews,while completely disregarding the persecution of homosexuals under Hitler.
Jack Meoff
@Mikah92: Me too, people like to try and forget about that part. Especially the Jews.
Tobi
They also forget gy psies, po les and other sl avs, people with physical or me ntal dis abilities and pol itical enemies such as com munists and soc ialists, to name but a few.
I’m sorry for the spaces but I can’t be bothered to work out which word Queerty doesn’t like.
Mkiel
Why has it taken so long?, many victims & their families would have perished by now
ChrisK
@Bob LaBlah: Yeah, those Nazi’s weren’t all that bad after all. Just regular folks like everyone else. Lol
Abnerbha must be back in right wing wacko mode.
Juanjo
@abnerbha: all you are doing is posting far right, Neo-Nazi rewrites of history about Hitler and the Nazis. The logical fallacies, such as the false equivalency argument that the alleged participation of some Jews in the actions of the Soviet government justifies the extermination of Polish peasants in some tiny village simply bacause they are also Jews is a total logical abortion. I was particularly amused by your claim that Blondie, Hitler’s dog chose to commit suicide. Hitler;s valet and others who were present stated quite clearly after the fall of Berlin and continued to do so up until their deaths, that Hitler killed the dog to test the cyanide capsules as he was concerned they would not work properly.
But enough of this. You quote from Storm Front which is a disgusting rag which rants and raves about gays, transsexuals, Jews and pretty much everyone else who is not a pure Blond haired, blue eyed “Aryan”. That by the by would include you as an untermensch under their definition.
But enough of this. I am blocking you so I do not have to read anymore of your dribble.
Aranos
As a German, every time I read something about that part of our history, I think “thank God we lost the War”!
As Queerty says, it was about time and compensation is long overdue. The problem was that after the War, many former Nazi judges stayed in office. Combined with the conservatism of the western post-war society, this did not exactly promote the LBGT cause. Even today (in 2016!!!), many conservative politicians are against this compensation.
@abnerbha: WTF ?!?!??? Go and get your pills, for Christ’s sake!!!
Liam
@Aranos: What’s the compensatin when everyone they totured is now dead? Thie will cost them exactly DM 0.
Bob LaBlah
@abnerbha: “Again, for all you who call me a Nazi from Stormfront site, I am not White & not German. ”
I had a feeling you would get smart and go back to school and stay off of Queerty. Yoo-hoo, girls, think about what babbling idiot we haven’t heard from nearly all summer and then think about the sheer nbr of posts he has posted. Any ideas as to his identity? I no longer wonder. Who the hell is could it be?
Tobi
If anyone actually read the screed that @abnerbha: posted above, feel free to summarise in a word or two. Ta!
abnerbha
@Aranos: @Juanjo:
abnerbha
@Juanjo:
Julius & Ethel Rosenberg gave atomic or nuclear weapons secrets to Commie USSR & thus we had cold war with former USSR. My guess is that both of you are apologists for Communists Julius & Ethel Rosenberg.
Other things, it’s not controversial to say that the last time PM Ariel Sharon made love was in 1971 or that Golda Meir was womenopausal (menopausal) when she was PM. It’s also not controversial to say that Menachem Begin was impotent. Yet the Holocaust is a topic where if you say Holocaust isn’t much different from other war atrocities, then controversy.
I don’t want any ethnic group exterminated. There are many talented Jewish people such as Stephen A. Spielberg, those who created Marvel & DC Comics, 3 stooges, Twilight Zone & as posters know I have watched all episodes of Bewitched, I dream of Jeannie, Honeymooners, Twilight Zone & Incredible Hulk-those shows often had Jewish producers & sometimes Jewish actors such as actor who played Abner & Gladys Kravitz on Bewitched, JE Gleason of Honeymooners & Rodman Edward Serling of Twilight Zone. When I was a boy in 1970s & early 1980s, I liked watching Laverne & Shirley along with Happy Days, Jewish & Jewess actors.
I also as posters know listen to music by Ariana Grande, Meghan Elizabeth Trainor, Lady Gaga, Justin Drew Bieber etc. who often have Jewish music executives. I don’t want Jews exterminated, because then we lose so many talented people. But I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I don’t think Holocaust is much different from other war atrocities & I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I support the Commissar Order. Most people who were killed by the Nazis were not Jewish. I also didn’t say that most Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were Jewish as most of the Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were non-Jewish Slavs & most people who the Nazis killed were Slavs.
I don’t think Holocaust is much different from any other atrocity in history & biggest Holocaust called happened in former USSR committed by Commies some of who were Jewish such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda so 1 can say Holocaust was indirect retaliation for Holodomor. Holocaust should not have happened & I know what I say offends, but Jews were not always innocent. Not controversial to talk about Axis Japan, Nazi Germany & Fascist Italy, yet when 1 talks of Jewish complicity in Soviet Holocaust, then anti-Semitic complaints.
abnerbha
@Aranos:
So Aranos, since you’re German, do you think it was acceptable for Poles & Czechs to treat their German neighbors poorly for years-long before Hitler was born? In worst cases, ethnic violence was committed by Poles & Czechs (more so by Poles)against their German neighbors for years. Polish writings from 1848 talked about how Germans are lower than dogs, among other things.
Hitler exploited fact that Poles & Czechs mistreated German neighbors to justify his greed. Of course most Germans living in Czechoslovakia & Poland supported Nazis because among other reasons, they no longer wanted to be mistreated by their neighbors. If Poles & Czechs better treated their German neighbors, then instead of 95% of Germans living in Poland & Czechoslovakia supporting Nazis, the # would have been less. Hitler would have still invaded, but @least there would’ve been more Germans opposing the Nazis than supporting their invasion.
Nazi Germany had no right to invade Poland, no right to take Czechoslovakia by war declaration threat (violating 1938 Munich Agreement with Sudeten) as their motive was lebensraum , Germans living in Poland & Czechoslovakia were poorly treated by their Polish & Czech neighbors (Germans sometimes took Polish & Czech names to try to avoid persecution) & in some cases there was violence committed by Poles & Czechs against their German neighbors in Poland & Czechoslovakia.
Hitler would have invaded Poland regardless but if Polish treatment of their German neighbors had been good, then fewer Germans living in Poland would have supported Nazi invasion. Again, while Nazi Germany had no right to invade Poland, etc. as they were doing that mainly for Nazi Germany’s interest against others, Germans were poorly treated in Poland for many years, long before Hitler was born.
abnerbha
I am not White-my ancestry’s Indian, so I’m not German. I have read alot about Holocaust & while I agree with most, I don’t believe all I read. It’s not controversial to talk about Nazi Germans & their allies Axis Japan & Fascist Italy. But when you talk of how many of Stalin’s henchmen & henchwomen such as LM Kaganovitch, GG Yagoda, Lev Mekhlis were Jewish who committed Soviet Holocaust called Holodomor, then anti-Semitic accusations & Holocaust denial.
I believe the Wilhelm Johann Gustav Keitel Commissar Order executed Commies. Soviet partisans & Comissars were Commie thugs comparable to Kim Il Sung & Kim Jong Il. Also I am against Iraq War. I am not a Christian but a non-religious person whose ancestry’s Indian, thus cousins with Gypsies (Nazi’s victims). But I believe the Nazis did some good things, though they were tyrants & I agree with Commissar Order.
abnerbha
@Aranos: @Juanjo:
Julius & Ethel Rosenberg gave atomic or nuclear weapons secrets to Commie USSR & thus we had cold war with former USSR. My guess is that both of you are apologists for Communists Julius & Ethel Rosenberg.
Other things, it’s not controversial to say that the last time PM Ariel Sharon made love was in 1971 or that Golda Meir was womenopausal (menopausal) when she was PM. It’s also not controversial to say that Menachem Begin was impotent. Yet the Holocaust is a topic where if you say Holocaust isn’t much different from other war atrocities, then controversy.
I don’t want any ethnic group exterminated. There are many talented Jewish people such as Stephen A. Spielberg, those who created Marvel & DC Comics, 3 stooges, Twilight Zone & as posters know I have watched all episodes of Bewitched, I dream of Jeannie, Honeymooners, Twilight Zone & Incredible Hulk-those shows often had Jewish producers & sometimes Jewish actors such as actor who played Abner & Gladys Kravitz on Bewitched, JE Gleason of Honeymooners & Rodman Edward Serling of Twilight Zone. When I was a boy in 1970s & early 1980s, I liked watching Laverne & Shirley along with Happy Days, Jewish & Jewess actors.
I also as posters know listen to music by Ariana Grande, Meghan Elizabeth Trainor, Lady Gaga, Justin Drew Bieber etc. who often have Jewish music executives. I don’t want Jews exterminated, because then we lose so many talented people. But I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I don’t think Holocaust is much different from other war atrocities & I don’t think I’m a Nazi because I support the Commissar Order. Most people who were killed by the Nazis were not Jewish. I also didn’t say that most Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were Jewish as most of the Soviet henchmen & henchwomen were non-Jewish Slavs & most people who the Nazis killed were Slavs.
abnerbha
Germans were poorly treated in Poland for many years, long before Hitler was born. Germans living in Poland & Czechoslovakia were poorly treated by their Polish & Czech neighbors (Germans sometimes took Polish & Czech names to try to avoid persecution) & in some cases there was violence committed by Poles & Czechs against their German neighbors in Poland & Czechoslovakia. Hitler would have invaded Poland regardless but if Polish treatment of their German neighbors had been good, then fewer Germans living in Poland would have supported Nazi invasion.
abnerbha
@Juanjo: I don’t believe Hitler tested Prussic pills on dog Blondi to see if they worked, because he killed himself by gun. History can be sensational & I think it was a mercy killing, because if Blondi would’ve ended up as food for Soviet soldier & Hitler knew this. Red Army in Germany was killing many people, committing rapes & Soviet soldiers esp. Soviet Mongolians were eating family pets including dogs. Many cases where Germans committed suicide including with their pets because they believed this was lesser evil to having a 10 year old girl raped & murdered by a Soviet soldier and their pets being eaten by Soviet soldiers.
Adolf Hitler knew that risk was too high for his dog Blondi to become food for a Soviet soldier, so his mistress Eva Braun and Blondi committed suicide by taking Prussic pill while he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. So it was a mercy killing and 1 could say the dog committed suicide to avoid being food for Soviet soldiers.