âIâm incredibly proud of [retired Patriots and Chiefs lineman Ryan OâCallaghan]. I know he had a lot of fear about it, and how he would be accepted, and how people would change around him. I think society is finally moving in the right direction, as far as treating all people with respect and love and acceptance and appreciation. And the locker room, I think the sport is getting closer.
Thereâs [still] a fear of job security. If you have a differing opinion, differing sexual orientation, they can get rid of you. So is it better just to be quiet and not ever say anything? And not risk getting cut, with people saying: âWell, itâs because you canât playâ?”â Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, in an interview with ESPN in which he discusses gay players’ significant fears about coming out.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
There’s something about this guy that brings out the tinfoiler gays on message boards, with their byzantinely convoluted bearding theories and of him Kevin Lanflisisending coded messages to each other over social media etc. Sad sacks.
Brody
Yeah, him and Tim Tebow and Aaron Hernandez and Kordell Stewart and anyone else who dares to be good-looking enough to attract the obsession of overreaching gay men ‘cross the globe.
Donston
Kordell Stewart is good-looking?
There are some athletes you listed that I suspect are indeed gay or gay-leaning (and not because they’re attractive) as well as others that you didn’t. But I don’t see the point in spending time mulling over any of these dudes. It gets pathetic. And it doesn’t lead to anyone actually coming out.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
I don’t rule out the possibility they could be lying but neither do I jump to conclusions based on mere unsubstantiated gossip and wish-fulfilment and then in my febrile mind proceed to transform it uncontested FACT that needs to be agressivly defended (often on said celebs social media accusing them of cowardice and potential teen suicides!) like my whole existence depended on it . I wait UNTIL I have authoritative evidence.
Brody
Donston –
Being that Stewart was the subject of unwarranted speculation, I believe my point was clear, be he good-looking in your eyes or not. And certainly you concede that the others I mentioned are the subject of undue disparagement simply for their appeal, yes?
Donston
People are always more interested in attractive individuals as well as more famous individuals. But there are plenty of famous and good-looking athletes that aren’t constantly surrounded by gay speculation.
The Hernandez stuff was just sensationalism. And I couldn’t care less what that crazy man’s orientation or sexual behaviors were. Plus, that narrative was pushed by tabloids not gay people. However, Tebow has stereotypical homo/homo-leaning voice and mannerisms. He’s never had a relationship with a woman despite being around 30, being a hardcore Christian and claiming to be looking for marriage material and to start a family. He’s never shut down the gay rumors. And his recent obsession with talking about adopting kids is somewhat telling. Rodgers had the drama with ex-roommate. Many of the other rumors connected to the gay rumors later lined up with reality. And his behavior and public persona in general has always seemed… off/extremely manipulated. So, the speculation around both isn’t completely undue or disparaging (I don’t think believe thinking someone is gay is necessarily disparaging, though it can be).
But none of it are stone-cold facts or hardcore evidence. And none of it is worth obsessing over.
CaliKyle
“tinfoiler gays,” Snark? You’ve really gone off the rails. One needn’t an aluminium hat nor half a functioning brain to realize Rodgers is a painfully closeted homosexual. But as long as you have your lil buddy brody spewing the same sort of nonsense you do, then hey, keep telling yourself Rodgers is going to be Mr Olivia Munn any…..day….now – just don’t hold your breath.
Theweatherman
Having been an athlete and gay, I can understand any professional athlete hesitating to step out of the closet. Things have changed for the better, but as Hoke said in ‘Driving Miss Daisy’, “Not all that much…”.
Your teammates may be supportive, but there is a lot of vocal criticism from the fans.
As far as gay men speculating about whether an athlete is gay or not, that’s all it is. Speculation. Those who are gay are usually the ones you least suspect.
Donston
In all likelihood Prince=Mo Bro=Brody=probably some others. Their opinions are all always very similar and self-contradicting. And they’re always supportive of each other. But I try not to care about users using multiple handles. It’s pathetic but whatever.
Logic, evidence, the timing of certain things and the way his public persona has unfolded lead to me thinking Rodgers is likely closeted. But I wouldn’t say that it’s painfully obvious. However, his comments will come back to bite him if he ever comes out post career. Since he claims to be most concerned with lesser known players being cut, if there are already out players with established and sealed careers being out would be less of a problem for the ones lower on the totem pole. So, that probably isn’t the biggest reason he remains closeted (if indeed he is).
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Donston, my logorrheic love. Verbose is still feeling the sting of my
querulous neurotic
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
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Oops.
Oh Donston, really really? It’s come to THIS level of petty?!? Infra dig, even for you my logorrheic lovely purveyor of prolixity.. (Clearly I hurt you more than I imagined or even intended) *concern face*
Donston
You could never hurt me. I think you’re a smart guy in your own way, which is why I continue to engage with you, but you’re also very lame and likely has a ton of issues. Your whole routine: multiple handle names, constant hypocrisy and back-peddling, contradictory statements and some blatant lying, getting snarky when you feel you’re not winning a back and forth or you feel like you’ve been exposed (like just now)- It’s all very humorous to me and harmless.
Brody
Donston –
The constant “multiple handles” accusation speaks volumes about those of you who can’t conceive of more than one individual having an opinion that differs from your own. I can only assume that you comment under numerous screen names yourself, since you believe others do it so regularly.
I suppose this is why those like yourself can’t imagine that anyone actually voted for Trump, hence the Russians must’ve been behind the whole crooked election . . . or, more likely, it’s just another example of liberal fascists trying to silence any opinions that don’t align with their own.
Donston
I don’t begrudge Rodgers, and I understand the pressure. However, it’s easy to say what the problems are. It takes balls to actually do something about it.
Brody
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Brody
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Daniel-Reader
Surprising there hasn’t been a huge lawsuit over ongoing violations of anti-discrimination laws in places with them with respect to this entire situation. Can you imagine any other for-profit organization skirting such laws?
Jaxton
Coming out as gay is identity politics. It’s not necessary to being a good sportsman. In fact, it can be counter-productive because it turns you into an object. Everything about you becomes sexual.
There are tons of NFL players with homosexual impulses but they don’t turn the impulse into an identity. They want to be known for their prowess on the field, not their prowess on Grindr.
Franklin
Coming as gay helps all of us in the long run, because the more people know that gay people exist all around them, in all professions, the more it normalizes us. The young people of today are much more accepting of gay people because of this.
Herman75
Kudos for admitting they’d fire your ass if you came out. Fvck yeah they would. Pro football is like Hollywood if not more so.
Jaxton
I agree that being honest and upfront about your sexuality can be good for you on a personal level.
I also agree that sexual honesty in men – especially in the form of same sex attraction – makes homosexuality less of a novelty or threat to others.
However, the gay community will politicize any NFL player that comes out. Politics hurts the individual.
Kangol
You’re defending homophobia yet again. Why do you hang around a self-described gay site if you are so anti-gay?
Xzamilloh
I still believe that players should establish themselves as formidable players on the field before they come out as gay. Or just casually do it so as not to make it a spectacle, like Michael Sam and the media both did.