Footage of two male lions in a zoo appearing to engage in gay sex has gone viral.
It’s unclear when the video was shot, but what’s going on is clear. A male lion hops on top of another male lion and starts pounding him.
The clip was originally posted by Twitter user @Diegothunder_90. However, what sent it viral was when it was retweeted by another user, Claymala Harris (@djordxc), who commented on the fact that a female lion in the enclosure wanders over to the pair, mid-act, to check what’s going on.
“Now this is some tea here. ??Sis pulled up to the scene w/ questions.”
Now this is some tea here. ??
Sis pulled up to the scene w/ questions. pic.twitter.com/ILXLf5QsbL— Blanche Deveheaux (@djordxc) August 31, 2019
The top lion, seemingly angry at being disturbed, leaps off his buddy to scare the female away.
Related: “These ‘gay lions’ aren’t just having sex, they’re giving each other cat kisses”
The tweet has prompted a huge amount of debate.
One argument repeatedly voiced by homophobes against same-sex attraction is that it’s “not natural.” In fact, same-sex sexual behavior has been noted in at least 450 different animal species – something many commentators discuss.
Others question whether the lions were truly having sex, although others need little convincing.
“Ok but did anyone notice how he went deeper after a few strokes?” said @thatdivad. “He was in his GUTS ??”
Others have remarked on the clip’s similarity to a recent, infamous gay porn scene.
“Isn’t this genuinely the plot of the Right In Front Of My Salad porn movie?” asks @Hasserbine
Related: Two male lions photographed in… a particularly intimate circumstance
Others quipped that the female lion was coming to check up on her partner but was untroubled by the situation.
“She walked right up to buddy and kissed him right in the mouth; she knew who she married,” (@octarell)
Whatever was truly going on, it’s yet more evidence that animals of the same sex engage in same-sex sexual behavior. Oh, and perhaps don’t disturb a horny lion when he’s giving it his best!
The female lion was like… pic.twitter.com/zBQkJmPWF1
— Darnell (@DaBlauw) September 1, 2019
Donston
I get using animals to argue against “homosexuality is unnatural”. But I think it’s always a mistake. We don’t know what drives any of these animals’ homo behaviors. Furthermore, people will argue that being in captivity has had some effect on these lions’ behaviors. And while there are many homophobes, there’s also a lot of people who aren’t homophobes but are anti-gay. They don’t have an issue with homo behaviors, but they do have an issue with coming out, gay identities and people (or just men) unabashedly having passions and relationship ambitions towards their gender and wanting to love someone of their sex. Showing male animals getting it on doesn’t counteract any of that.
Aranos
Except homosexuality in lions has been documented it the wild. And what drives them is that they are horny, just like humans. And if you want to know why they are horny i.e. the roles and reasons behind sexuality: google is your friend.
Some last advice: Stop negating the obvious.
Donston
I’m aware that homo behaviors between lions have been displayed in the wild. However, we don’t know how much homo behaviors between animals is driven by “horniness” or by things like convenience or displays of dominance or not finding receptive female partners. Is it driven by attractions, passions, affections, romantic fulfillment, relationship preferences? If not then it really doesn’t assist the “gay agenda”. It’s just two male animals sticking their penis inside each other. Ultimately, using animal behaviors to justify human behaviors and senses of self is always gonna miss the mark. This can be used to show that it’s not “unnatural” or unusual but not for much else.
Chrisk
How about monkeys Donston. Everyone knows about their sexual appetites. Does giving each other blow jobs count as horniness or is it just showing domination? Many other animal species have been observed performing oral sex on one another as well.
Donston
I don’t know. I’ve never been able to get a monkey’s attention for a long enough time to have that conversation. But as we know with humans, sexually engaging with someone doesn’t even mean that you have sexual attractions to that person. Yet alone passions, affections, romantic feelings, relationship ambitions. My point is that trying to connect human behaviors and sense of self with animals offers extreme limitations. All we can witness is the behaviors. We rarely know what they are instigated by. We should be past depending on other species behaviors to give us validation. I just find it lame. Animals show us that homo behaviors are not unnatural. That’s all they can show us.
jjose712
Sorry but what you said doesn’t make any sense.
It doesn’t matter if it’s affection, horniness or whatever they like, it’s a natural behaviour and that’s what matters.
Marriage (the heterosexual kind) is not natural, it’s a social construction, but nobody argues that it’s not a natural behaviour
Donston
Many people still argue that despite homo behaviors being displayed in animals it’s still not “natural”. I’ve seen many comments dismiss animal homo behaviors as mere curiosity, convenience, an expression of dominance or kinship, a “phase”, or animals simply being willing to jump anything. This type of stuff does nothing but preach to the choir. It doesn’t change minds. Furthermore, there are quite a few people who see homo behaviors as “natural”. But they don’t see homosexuality as natural. And they don’t want people to come out or embrace gay identities. Nor do they support same-sex love or unions. They could care less about two dudes getting it on. That’s not what drives their prejudice. They simply don’t want homosexuality and gay identities to be validated nor want to respect same-sex unions. Homo behaviors is not what drives their prejudice. This really doesn’t help with changing the mind frame of those types of people (and many of those kinds of people are homosexual, bisexual, homo-leaning, homo-romantic, gay). Once again, my main point is that we should be past looking towards other species to justify our behaviors, sense of self and relationships.
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Juanjo
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Donston
If anything, this type of stuff just gives weight to the “being gay is a choice” and “no one is born homosexual” arguments. Since almost none of these animals who indulge homo behaviors live strictly or even mostly homo lifestyles throughout their existence. Homophobes and anti-gay people don’t care if you’re inherently homosexual. Nor do they care if you love male passions and affections. Or that you prefer the love of a guy and being a relationship with a guy. They just don’t care about any of that. So, I don’t understand folks’ obsession with trying to prove something to those people. And seeing two male lions hump each other is not gonna change their minds.
OzJosh
Hey Donston, how about just not trying to shut down discussion on any given topic?! Quite apart from “homosexual behaviour” being widespread across a wide range of animal species, there are many, many very well documented instances of same-sex animal pairs – from penguins to primates – coupling for life, and sometimes raising young together. The objections you’re raising to the arguments being raised just don’t stand up to scrutiny.
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Aaron
Donston, you are so oblivious that it’s hilarious. You’re either a troll or slower than a herd of snails traveling through peanut butter.
Cam
So ignore the fact that homosexuality has been documented in hundreds of species because someone somewhere may argue with it?
Dunnedin
Yeah, just like those people blaming the Nazis for being anti-Jewish. They weren’t against Jews, just against Jews exhibiting “Jewish behavior”. They weren’t being anti-Jewish (or anti-everything that fit into their narrow concept of Aryan), they were just being anti-Semitic (including Arabs, see?).
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Chrisk
Effing eff off with your fake Witch Doctor BS.
ricdardc1
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PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
So was that the mane event at the zoo???
ricdardc1
I see what you did there
lord.krath
Donston, what is your point? Homosexual behaviors, whatever the motivation or context, incontrovertibly exists in the natural wilderness. I don’t really think gays really feel that this advances any agenda other than to highlight the fact that it does exist. There are plenty of relationships (Gay and straight) where the chemistry is strictly physical, more emotional and physical, and then outliers. Who cares what the motivation is? There are still those that believe the world is flat and that Copernicus is wrong. Their opinions and views don’t matter and will ultimately be forgotten as time marches on. So will it be with resistance to the truth that homosexuality is a natural phenomena.
Josh447
It would seem Donston has tucked tail, blown off the people in this conversation and skipped town. Wise move? Hmmm……
ricdardc1
I know those Lions, they met & fell in Love at The RAMROD, in Boston next to FENWAY PARK, (giggity)