“Am I glad this election is over?” Emma Olson, a 27-year-old transgender woman from Minnesota, asks herself on a cold December night. “Hell yeah! Ugh, there was so much drama and arguing. I didn’t like it!”
It’s been a month-and-a-half since the election, and Emma is still reeling–but not in the way you may think. Why? Because she voted for Donald Trump, a fact she proudly boasted in a Reddit post days after the election.
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“By no means do I think he is an ‘ideal’ candidate, and yeah, I disagree with some of the things he’s said and done in the past,” she tells Queerty. “But put that up against all the things that Clinton has done and it doesn’t even compare.”
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We sat down with Emma to discuss exactly why she voted for Trump, what she thinks about his increasingly anti-LGBTQ cabinet picks, the impact she believes Trump could have on her as a trans woman and more…
First things first, what led you to vote for Trump?
Mostly it came down to a culmination of many months of research, comparing Clinton versus Trump. I want to stress the fact that being transgender did not play that large of a role in who I voted for. Sure, it played some part in it, but I didn’t feel right putting my support behind someone based on one small part of who I am. I instead chose to focus on the larger picture.
Personally, I just have a trust issue when it comes to believing Clinton will do the things she says she will do. She may today support the public’s support on a topic that most would agree on, but what about when she goes into private meetings with lobbyists and other powerful people in government? The next week she may completely flop on her support.
Couldn’t the same exact thing be argued about Trump? NBC counted a total of 141 stances he flip-flopped on over the course of his campaign. And he continues to do so even now. One day he is going to investigate Clinton, the next, he isn’t. One day, he is going to appoint judges that could “change things” when it comes to marriage equality, the next, it’s “irrelevant.”
I mean, politicians change their positions all the time, and that’s not to say it’s right, but I’m sure it’s a continuous learning process as things go on. So long as the end goal is met, with good intentions for the people, then I’d say it’s all well and done.
In your original Reddit post, you mentioned that you were initially a Bernie Sanders supporter, but then switched to Trump as the election went on. Was there a defining moment that made you switch?
It was just a “natural” shift, I guess. I guess if I could point to anything, it was learning how the DNC completely undermined Bernie Sanders’ campaign. After that, I could not out of good conscious support the DNC or any Democrat, including Bernie Sanders calling for people to rally behind Clinton.
I’ve read comments on our own site that say how “Anyone who is LGBTQ and voted for Trump is an idiot and should be ashamed.” How do you react to comments like this?
To put it simply, I don’t react. That statement carries no weight with it. Why am I an idiot and why should I be ashamed for voting for Trump? Give me some reasons why you think that. Back up your opinion.
OK, well, how about this: The vast majority of the people Trump has selected to be in his cabinet have a long and vocal history of being anti-LGBTQ, including VP-elect Mike Pence, Attorney General pick Jeff Sessions, HUD secretary pick Ben Carson, Department of Education pick Betsy DeVos, top White House advisor Steve Bannon, and Secret of State pick Rex Tillerson to name a few.
This is where I have the biggest problem with a Trump presidency. I do not agree with some of the things [his cabinet members] have said in regards to the LGBTQ community. Will the road ahead be an easy one for LGBTQ rights? No. Was it ever? No. How did we get to where we are now, in terms of progressing LGBTQ rights? People stood up for the community and pushed things forward. I think we all have a responsibility to keep that up, and not to rely on politicians to have our best interests at heart. If we rely on them, then I think we’ll find that they will make policy decisions based on their sole opinion. However, our government doesn’t reflect the ideals of one person, but instead it is supposed to represent the people. If the people have widespread support over an issue, then it’s our responsibility to move things forward. If we’ve done it before, then I believe we can do it again.
But what if we can’t? What if we lose the fight for equality because of the extreme cabinet he’s put in place?
I don’t anticipate LGBTQ issues will be something they will bring up on their own agenda, which is unfortunate, but that doesn’t mean that we have to stop there. We can still organize, speak up on what we’d like to see change, and bring it to people’s attention. I don’t think we will ever “lose that fight,” because things are far from where they should be on LGBTQ issues, and as long as people get involved and fight for what they want to see changed, then the fight will always continue.
Do you fear what impact Trump and those surrounding him could have on you personally as a trans woman?
If the federal ban on discrimination is dropped or marriage equality is repealed, then I worry more about all the other LGBTQ people out there more than myself. So many transgender people have been murdered in the past few years, LGBTQ people have been turned away from businesses, some have lost their jobs coming out, and that all makes me so sad. I have to ask myself: How effective is a federal ban on discrimination? I mean, sure, in the courts and legal sense it carries some weight, but if people want to discriminate against you for being who you are, then they will, regardless of a federal protection.
Since the election, many people in the trans community have been scrambling to have their names and genders legally changed on their IDs, passports, and other legal paperwork. Many fear Republicans, under Trump’s leadership, will override the rule changes President Obama has put into place to help facilitate getting these documents changed.
Honestly, that doesn’t really mean that much to me right now. However, I don’t want to downplay its importance for other people. I’m sure some others out there have a hard time getting it changed, but there’s help being offered to get it done. I read recently that a lot of lawyers and organizations are offering pro-bono services for trans people to get there documents changed–before Trump gets in office. So, if you need help, maybe look into that?
But what if they don’t have the resources to do so? Or what if they simply aren’t ready to make that step in their transition?
If a person isn’t ready to make that step in their transition, then who am I to say what they should or shouldn’t expect in the future?
What has your experience been like post-election?
I’m irritated by the left’s attempt at stealing the election away from Trump and creating all these new issues/false narratives. It’s all just ridiculous. The majority of people don’t want this. I haven’t once been out in public, or saw and heard anyone protesting Trump, calling for a recount, or trying to convince people to hand the election back over to Hillary. It almost seems as a false reality that is only shown when I turn on the news. I find 99% of the people I talk to voted for Trump.
But if you say “99% of the people I talk to voted for Trump,” aren’t you living in a bubble, too?
I mean, everyone is living in a “bubble” in some way or another. Each person’s human experience helps create this bubble. It’s how we all live our lives; through opinions, beliefs, experiences etc. These bubbles sometimes increase in size, decrease in size, or they may pop and form a new bubble.
Also, the majority of people did vote for Clinton. She won the popular vote by over 2.5 million.
So yeah. Hillary Clinton did win the popular vote. Donald Trump, though, campaigned to win the Electoral College, because that is how election laws work in the U.S. Simply put, and without rambling away, he won the election by following the rules. If people still cannot accept this, then read up on how the Electoral College and popular vote works.
What would you like to say to the LGBTQ community who may not agree with who you voted for?
I guess I’d like to say please don’t create a divided community based only off the idea of who people chose to vote for. We all have so much more in common than our political beliefs, and we all share a common ground on [wanting to] see each other treated fairly and with respect.
But isn’t it hypocritical to tell people not to be divided while simultaneously advocating for a man who so blatantly divides people?
Trump may have caused some degree of controversy with the things he said, but the media and reporters took it to a whole other level. Every week the mainstream media used talking points from Trump, and tried so hard to pick out something they could turn into a controversy, then they ran with it as long as they could. Much of it was successful on their part. I mean look at where we are at now.
Donald Trump does not want to deport all Mexican, Hispanic, or any ethnicity just because they immigrated to the U.S. Donald Trump is not sexist. Does he maybe have an infidelity problem? Perhaps. I don’t know, but many politicians do as well. That’s not to excuse him of it, but let’s not all forget the controversy surrounding Bill Clinton during and after his presidency.
You know, a lot of our readers aren’t going to agree with a single word you’ve said.
I think we all need to take a deep breath and give Donald Trump a chance. He isn’t even president yet, and good things are beginning to take place. There is no point getting worked up over the past, focusing on what ifs, and wishing I did this and that. Don’t obsess over the political landscape of our nation, but do be aware of it. Get out and live your lives, surround yourself with people who love and care about you, and once you do that maybe you’ll see a rainbow over the horizon.
sfhally
This is the same mentality as someone who , when their boyfriend hits them says “Well, he didn’t mean it–he was having a rough day”.
I doubt that even reading this, she’ll see the contradictions in what she’s saying.
Fuck her.
bobbyjoe
Emma sounds a wee bit gullible. Perhaps she’s not the brightest bulb in the bulb box.
Emma, if you’re out there, call me, I have some nice swampland to sell you. It comes pre-drained.
Dave084
I have only great contempt and zero tolerance for someone who is so blatantly, voluntarily stupid. I think the hormones must have fucked with her warped brain. In every area of character and moral qualities that makes someone fit to be POTUS, Trump is not worthy of licking Clinton’s feet. Her “research” of the two must have consisted of Fox News and Brietbart.
ChrisK
@sfhally: “I find 99% of the people I talk to voted for Trump.” Lol
I made it half way through listening to this half wit. She kept contradicting herself and none of it made any sense. The stupid just burns. She’s young and extremely naive. That’s about the nicest thing I can say.
ChrisK
@bobbyjoe: Why do I get the feeling that Caitlyn Jenner is her role mode.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
I’m guessing this person thinks that this person doesn’t have to support LGBT equality because this person imagines this person can at some point disappear into the heterosexual mass because this person somehow believes this person can pass as cisgender.
amigay
When I first saw just the pic I thought “what’s one half the Olsen Twins doing in here?” Then I realized it’s not one half, but just like the Olsen Twins, it’s a not-relevant oxygen sucking humanoid.
danielle_bergan
She drank the Kool-aid. By doing so she ignores the evils that the Donald spews. She is not logical and appears quite shallow in her LGBT beliefs. I’d like to see you do this interview a year from now.
sweetbrandigirl2004
OMG ! What a fucking Idiot she is ! How could anyone in their right mind think that Trump is 1 qualified to be president or 2 sane enough to have the nuclear codes or three have ANY inclination in helping them ? Trump is a multi-millionaire and his ONLY and I mean ONLY reason for wanting to be president is so he can change laws rules and policies so he and his fellow millionaires, corp buddies and rich friends can make more money by fucking the little people like this stupid Bitch. I think she needs to think about the fact that in trumps eyes she’s the shit he scrapes off his shoes. People like this dumb Bitch are too fucking stupid to be allowed to vote ! I hope she knows that her and the ones like her just fucked America because Trump and his GOP pals are going to burn it to the ground and strip every protection they can away from the LGBT community !
SarcasaticMisanthrope
She was probably this stupid when she was male. Yeehaw!
NateOcean
Another attention-whore gets her 15-minuttes of fame.
Clearly some people are too stupid to be allowed to vote.
David Bolton
“I think we all need to take a deep breath and give Donald Trump a chance.”
Exactly. I will happily support any legislation that strips people like Emma of their basic human rights. After all, that’s what HIS (let’s go ahead and start right there, since “she” is a HE) candidate and all Trump’s ilk have very plainly stated is their ultimate goal. I say let’s go for it.
Yay Emma!
kmramki
I honestly don’t know how the interviewer got through all this without 1. throwing up, or 2. punching this person in the face. Kudos.
lucy_sharp
People on this threat should seriously think about whether they are part of the problem.
I personally think Emma’s opinions are incorrect, and potentially damaging. The idea of Trump not being sexist is absurd, when he stands accused of so many sexual assaults by witnesses we have no reason to doubt.
But the amount of transphobia that is so readily spewed by other comments simply because one trans-woman has the audacity to vote in a way they disagree with…I find it far more reprehensible that Emma’s (incorrect) opinions. I can hardly blame Emma for having opinions I disagree with if people gleefully misgender her and attack her for who she is when she expresses them. It might be difficult to tell who the enemy is when our supposed allies are just as bad as the opposition.
jorgecruz
Months of research on the candidates and this is all she could come up with for her reasoning? I still think they should have an IQ test for people to vote. She didn’t vote for Clinton because she believed everything bad everyone said about her, however she refuses to believe the bad things people say about Trump. I am an upperclass white gay and I don’t need Hillary to look out for me, but this girl sure does. I feel much sadder for her than I do for myself. Did it ever occur to her that if for some reason Trump leaves office, she will have Mike Pence as President?
Brian
Just because you grow your hair long, it doesn’t make you an Emma. As far as I’m concerned, you could just as easily be an Ian.
Don’t go insisting that everybody else call you a woman. If you want to call yourself that, so be it. Nobody is stopping you. But you have no right to tell everybody else to call you a woman.
Enjoy your life, make friends, eat, drink and be merry. You are entitled to vote for Trump, too. Nobody can stop you and nor should they try.
jeraldarmstrong
Hey Queerty,
Part of me wants to appreciate allowing different opinions be heard. We are a diverse community. HOWEVER, people like this are getting paid to talk like this. Every time some couple comes out and says they refuse to cook for us because of ‘God’ hoardes of right wing people come to their rescue for ‘standing up’. Why gay press would catapult a person who advocates with people who seek our destruction is ridiculous. Why we would give someone like this a free platform is beyond me. Clinton was not a perfect candidate. We will never see a perfect candidate. People who voted for Trump voted for the LGBTQ community and our rights to be dismantled. They are the enemy.
monroerob69
You all need to get over yourselves. This election was about more than LGBT rights. What good is marriage if Crooked Hillary wants to let the radicals who want to kill us for being gay? Our borders are a joke and Barry has made this country weaker than ever.
And I’m gay, a democratic and voted for Trump. MAGA!!
queerty01
What a stupid bitch (and I say that with full recognition of her gender status). Trans people appear to be the Uncle Tom segment of LGBT community.
Jack Meoff
Is the person in the pic the subject in the interview? Queerty often use random pics in their articles.
JessPH
What a stupid bloke.
Louis
These transphobic statements are absolutely horrible.
With that being said she sounds like another pretentous entitled selfish republican who only cares about herself and screw everyone else .
Those LGBT people who voted for Trump voted AGAINST equality not FOR it and that onus is on those individuals who did that not the rest of us.
I hope she spans her horizons and does actual legitimate research on Trump and hopefully that will open her eyes to the reality of what so many of us now will have to face thanks to all the LGBT Americans who voted against their own rights and their own community at the same time.
As far as her gender is concerned I fully support and respect that and always will that will never be an issue or problem for me it never has been to begin with and it never will be .
For those whom this is an issue for educate yourselves and be more open minded and compassionate.
Yes her mentality about Trump is misguided no question but her gender is perfectly normal and that shouldnt ever be the issue or problem in any part of this equation period.
Xzamistletoe
@queerty01: I don’t agree with her stance, but honestly, as someone who has been called an Uncle Tom by regressive liberals on this site, what does that mean? Because for a group of people so quick to denounce homophobes for lumping us all together as these deviant sex-crazed disease-spreaders, you sure have no problem saying an LGBT individual is a traitor to the “community”… which is it? Are we individuals or do we all have to think alike in order to be acceptable by LGBT standards? And who sets the standards?
Brian
Transgenders don’t have much in common with homosexuals. This is one of the reasons by GLBT is such a phony collection of letters.
Most of the men who wish to be known as women are actually the opposite of homosexual; they are so opposed to being known as homosexual, they call themselves women, thus assuming the hetero-normative pose.
Brian
Most male-to-female transgenders are basically saying “ewww, I don’t want to be thought of as a homosexual male, I’d rather be thought of as a woman”.
Now, can anyone tell me how that is good for the cause of male homosexual desire???????
adambravo
“I don’t anticipate LGBTQ issues will be something they will bring up on their own agenda.” Spoken by someone living in a news/fact-free bubble. What an idiot. And credit to the interviewer for calling a Emma out on the “flip-flop” issue–once presented with facts, she decides this key decision point doesn’t actually matter anymore.
Mo Bro
@monroerob69:
I don’t think you got the memo, Rob:
Common sense and logic are not tolerated in this neighborhood, so knock it off.
adambravo
And “good things are beginning to take place”? Uh, really? Name two…
1EqualityUSA
Every minute, a sucker is born. Hey, lady, I have a nice house in East Jerusalem to sell to you…
sweetbrandigirl2004
@monroerob69: Then you’re a fucking Idiot because Trump is a crazy fucking Millionaire who isn’t going to help you he’s going to use the power of the office of President to make himself and his billionaire friends richer ! Thats ALL he cares about and he’ll allow Pence to strip you and every other LGBT person of every right we’ve fought so long and hard for. The Trump Pence and GOP are going to burn this country to the ground. They already making plans to gut social security, destroy the environment and roll back Dodd Frank so banks can do as they please all over again. They also have plans to roll back Net Neutrality and give the internet to the corps so you better get ready to PAY to use the internet. You also better hope you’re NOT in the military because Trump will have us in another war before he’s done and thousands will die. The policies he and the GOP will institute will drive the economy into the ground and thousands will be homeless and unemployed get ready for bread lines and the next great depression because it’s coming.
Mo Bro
@adambravo:
Okay.
1. Withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific partnership;
2. Persuaded Carrier to keep hundreds of jobs in the U.S.;
3. I could go on, but you have Google.
1EqualityUSA
Sweetbrandigirl, and break the unions with Friedrichs v. Califonia Teachers. Scalia would have ruled, had he not given up his ghost. White, blue-collar working men will be harmed for generations. What fools these mortals be. Education matters, so it is no surprise that the Republicans cut funding to it whenever possible. An uneducated and financially threatened herd is easier to steer, politically. Is that a goose I smell cooking?
ChrisK
@Mo Bro:
1. Low hanging fruit. Most of the progressive democrats were against it. Bernie, Warren, etc.
2. Blackmail (pays little tax now) was involved and they still moved half their work force to Mexico with no guarantee they won’t move it all down the road.
3. ?
Mo Bro
@ChrisK:
Blackmail, was it? That’s the best you could come up with?
Gee willikers, I ever so wish I were as smart as you progressive conspiracy theorists.
mrrasheed
@lucy_sharp: Do you really think that trans-phobia is more pronounced on the left than on the right? Who passed bathroom laws? GOP Who passed religious freedom laws? Mike Pence. If 1 or 2 comments of random ppl on a message board pisses someone off to a point. Where the vote for ppl who are actively seeking to undermine their rights as a citizen that person needs some intense therapy.
For the record if you declare war on me with your vote then I certainly have the right to attack you with my words. My words wont potentially take rights away from you. Your vote for Trump undermines my rights as a gay male, a person of color, and someone who grew up in a muslim family.
Emma clearly has her head stuck up her privilege. What kinda bubble does Emma live in that everyone she knows voted Trump. Sounds like Emma may be one of the only GLBT people she deals with on a regular basis. She clearly lives in a very white bubble and even with a sex change has little to no ability to empathize with the many people who will be negatively affected by a Trump presidency. Including herself.
Captain Obvious
Oh well then I guess he doesn’t mind if I stop referring to him as a her because he doesn’t care about his own rights or mine. Bye.
sweetbrandigirl2004
@Mo Bro: You should really do some research before opening your big mouth. Yes, Trump made a deal to save 900 of the 1400 Carrier jobs but do you realize that he gave them Tax breaks that equal hundreds of thousands more then the jobs he save will cost carrier, Let me simplify it for you America got screwed ! He’s going to burn this country to the ground and once he and his millionaire buddies have fuck America every which way they can and made billions they’ll leave her gasping for air and sore like a three dollar whore. The next president most likely a Democrat will once again have to come in and clean up the mess and bring this country back from the brink, just like Obama had to do when he cleaned up Bush’s mess. Whoo Hoo Trump screwed America to save 900 American jobs not a lot to celebrate there.
1EqualityUSA
sweetbrandigirl2004, sit and have some tea. Stay awhile.
captainburrito
@sfhally: That accurately describes a clip i just watched on youtube earlier on a british “jerry springer” type show where the woman being cheated on by her bf shrugged her shoulders when asked why she lets him away with it and confronted by all his lies and actions.
I had an open mind when i read this article but hearing her responses… it was pretty weak.
paul dorian lord fredine
she originally supported bernie but somehow she considers it a ‘natural shift’ to end up voting for trump. that i don’t see at all. and through it all, all i get is that she voted for trump because she didn’t like hillary and she’s going to ‘trus’ him and all of his homophobic picks that everything is going to all turn out okie-dokie-hunky-dory. everyone is entitled to their opinion, so here’s mine……she sounds totally naive and delusional. i hope that she keeps several pair of those rose-colored glasses on hand if trump’s scotus choices make it legal once more to keep her from renting an apartment, getting a loan or getting a job or just simply put her in jail because of what people will be allowed to judge her on: not who but what she is. just maybe she’ll look back on her decision and ask herself, ‘what was i thinking?’. but that’s just my opinion and, at least for now, i’m free to express it. who knows what’s to come around the corner?
My2Cents
My blood is boiling right now. Mainly because there was so much misinformation and hypocrisy in her statements that I won’t even bother listing them. Also because, I know nothing that is said here will change her mind or anyone else’s who voted for him. But I will say this. Donald Trump has succeeded immensely in creating this narrative of the “mainstream media”. Once you can convince people to not believe the things they hear and see, the rest is easy.
Tony
Someone may still be suffering from White, Male privilege.
OzJosh
Quite apart from all the dumb and offensive things Trump has already said and done, he’s now appointed a gaggle of the most homophobic nut-bags you could imagine as his inner circle. And these morons are still saying “give him a chance”. Astounding.
dwes09
@Brian: “Most male-to-female transgenders are basically saying “ewww, I don’t want to be thought of as a homosexual male, I’d rather be thought of as a woman”.”
Yeah, that is what I thought before i actually knew any M-T-F folks. Clearly, living in your basement (or perhaps your parents’ basement), you have never known any. And besides, why are we to take seriously the pronouncements of a self-hating, woman hating man who is quite possibly here as a hetero troll? Homosexual M-T-F people are known as lesbians, they are quite obviously not gay men filled with guilt (like you are, if you are in fact gay).
SonOfKings
This is what straight, White privilege looks and smells like. The thought process is: “If something does not affect me, it’s not a priority for me…” I don’t think the gay and trans agendas necessarily align. Emma sees herself as a privileged, straight, White woman. She couldn’t care less about gay rights.
dwes09
@monroerob69: ” What good is marriage if Crooked Hillary wants to let the radicals who want to kill us for being gay? Our borders are a joke and Barry has made this country weaker than ever.
And I’m gay, a democratic and voted for Trump. MAGA!!”
First off, most of the time when people trolling the internet exclaim “I am XYZ and I did ZYX” as you do, it is because the y most decidedly are NOT XYZ. Secondly, please provide reliable sources that Secty Clinton wanted to “let in radicals to kill us” as opposed to wanting to do what the US has a;ways done, OPEN ITS DOORS TO REFUGEES, AS THE STATUE OF LIBERTY SO LOUDLY PROCLAIMS. As for our borders being s joke, the joke is that you are to damned stupid to understand that the tide of movement has been back down south for several years now. Illegals AND legal immigrants with valuable skills are leaving. Some because of the availability of better jobs in their country of origin, others because of the domestic climate created by folks like you. Your brown skinned intellectual betters are scared by the likes of you, and are taking their talents elsewhere. Finally, Obama has effected an amazing recovery, as shown by almost all statistical analysis. But it seems pretty clear that you prefer your imagination and that of your manipulators to actual reality.
And what good is marriage? Look up the rights that marriage automatically confers on a couple and then look at actual history to see how gay people (if you are actually gay you might be moved, if you have empathy) were stripped of their property, funds, and dignity upon the death of long term partners, were separated from partners in nursing homes, were not allowed to see partners in intensive care and so on. You have a hell of a lot to learn about life child!
dwes09
@Xzamistletoe: We are all certainly individuals, and all entitled to our own opinions. But some seem to vote and act against their own self interest and that of the majority of the country over and over again. And that is the right wing, especially the right wing LGBT folks. Their opinions are more often based on other opinions and not the real world (as is the case with this silly woman interviewed) so they can expect to to be dragged over the coals by progressives. A right to one’s own opinion does not mean that opinion is sacrosanct or is not fair target for reality based ridicule.
Neonegro
Black gay male born outside the united states and proud Trump voter.
And I am not the only one.
The many hate filled posts above from the intolerant radical left is a good example of part of the reason so many voted for Trump.
These libertards have no understanding of the outside world and their sole frame of reference are the Gay pride parades and the likes of lady gaga.
Believe it or not, many of us have many other interests and concerns besides the LGBTQ agenda.
Get used to it folks, his title is PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP
queerty01
@Xzamistletoe: We are individuals who stand together out of common self interest. This woman is too stupid or privileged and selfish to ally herself with that interest. I don’t know which is worse: the stupidity or the selfishness. Either is unacceptable.
Mo Bro
@Neonegro:
Hear hear, my brotha. Race nor sexuality define one’s politics. But, save for a few, no one in this neighborhood seems to understand this.
@sweetbrandigirl2004:
Your paranoia is amusing. Kind of like how the right proclaimed Obama would be the most ineffective and divisive president in history . . . oh, wait a minute, not only did he do exactly that, he’s STILL doing it (and liberal America is eating it up). Bravo.
1EqualityUSA
Anybody else have winter itch?
James
Why would I want to read an article about such a stupid nobody troll.