Next week’s Democratic National Convention could become quite the rocky affair. Even as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama‘s campaigns seem to have come together , some of Clinton’s supporters are planning a rallies to voice their grievances during the Convention in Denver.
One of pro-Clinton groups, Hillary Now, has issued a press release urging their members to back John McCain, rather than Obama, who they call an enemy of Israel.
From spokesman Robert Kunst
I urge everyone that we must unite together in Denver and that our power is NOT to back Obama and be taken for granted any longer…..but to support McCain.
…
I want to emphasize that we Democrats are not going to support Obama regardless of Hillary doing it or who the veep is. We clearly see Obama as dangerous for this nation and putting Rev.Wright, Farrakhan, Jimmy Carter etc. back into power and in control of the White House with their pro-Hamas politics means a disaster for America as well as Israel, as well as the West.
Hillary Now also plans on demonstrating at the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis.
Meanwhile, check out these buttons Hillary Now’s hawking:
todd
Are these Lunatics really Hillary supporters, or more dittoheads? I don’t believe they are even democrats.
mark
You Straight Democrats shout down these TRAITOROUS posing Repigs, we queers have the Log Cabin-LITE Clintonistas to deal with.
CHURCHILL-Y
To all the Obamatons slanderers and thieves all we true Democrats have to say to you is P.U.M.A!!!!
Jesse
You’ve gotta be kidding. Right?
An Other Greek
oh, I get it…
Israel over party…
Soooooo sick of this shit!
If Hillary does not UNEQUIVOCALLY condemn these actions, she will have lost my NY vote forever. (she damn near has already, Mark Tasini anyone?)
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Gregoire
Those buttons look like they were made in somebody’s basement. Ultimately, this cause only has a couple hundred people in it, and they will all look like laughing-stocks and be rejected wholesale by the rest of the party.
emb
Quite likely, Gregoire, but if there are 16 idiots screaming anti-Obama venom in the name of Hillary, there will be 150 cameras pointed in their direction, and the MSM will give them a platform in the name of “telling both sides of the story” even when one side is a teeny tiny minority of just plain stupid, self-important loudmouths.
And that’s the risk, and even though they’re stupid, they know damn well that if they make sufficient noise, the television reporters will come.
Cam
Look, they can lie and say it’s about feminism, or Israel or whatever, but the fact of the matter they are looking for ANY excuse to protest…and you know what the real reason is? They are a bunch of whiney spoiled children whos team didn’t win so they are going to take their ball home and try to ruin the kickball game for everybody. It’s the typical spoiled baby-boomer/me Generation reactiong to ANYTHING when they don’t get their way. Good riddens to them and their ilk.
seitan-on-a-stick
This is a Karl Rovian created front of the McCain campaign. Sure, there are a couple of Hillary supporters who will never be happy but the Vast Majority of Hillocrats(72% and rising) now support the Presidential nomination of Senator Barack Obama. This is typical New York style snarky politicking by the Media Right faking that they are somehow Democrats. This is used to divide the party while Hils and Bam appease all sides with a floor count. The crazy fringes like Mark (Obamaniac) and Churchill-y (who lives in borderline third-world England and should stay out of America’s affairs or simply can’t vote here) are so incensed by anything oppositional to their doctrine. These tactics that they rail in are radically dangerous thinking akin to my friend is my enemy. This agoraphobia (in this instance, fear of openness of the mind) is a mental condition where people stake out radical positions and hopefully are kept out of the Democratic Convention in Denver. Hillary Now is nothing to do with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Open your eyes! Queerty just want the advertisement clicks and will do anything (include pimping Grandma) to divide the GLBT community. They do better business when there is kvetching to be had. Is that demystified enough for you? They should be reported to GLAAD.
emb
Interesting points, Seitan-on-a-stick. If I recall correctly, during the primaries there was considerable angst about rightwing talk-radio-inspired turnout by republicans to vote for Clinton (the rad right was salivating over her being the nom). The crazed, myopic, irrational, self-absorbed gadflies that seem to comprise HillaryNow and their fellow travelers seem to fall pretty squarely into the limbaugh demographic. I mean, these are people who claim to be democrats and supporters of a rather liberal candidate, who now say they would vote for a conservative republican? Makes no sense at all unless…
More rightwing-sponsored shenanigans? I suspect if you pinch HillaryNow, you’ll hear rove scream.
mark
seitan-on-a-stick
NO they are bitter racist Hillary supporters who you ridicule me about denouncing their actions in Denver.
An Other Greek
“…One of pro-Clinton groups, Hillary Now, has issued a press release
urging their members to back John McCain,
rather than Obama,
who they call an enemy of Israel.”
“We clearly see Obama …with their pro-Hamas politics means a disaster for America as well as Israel, as well as the West.”
uhm, what are these “Democrats” really concerned about?
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Mr C
These are a BUNCH of FUCKING IDIOTS!
CAM
Ok SEitan, so….72% of Hillary supporters now back Obama? Well you left out the number..that would still mean that MILLIONS are left over creating this problem. Party Loyalty should have that number up in the 90 something percentile, but again, spoiled babyboomers care more about what they want than what is good for the country. They are crying little children who are upset and stamping their feet because they aren’t getting the cookie they demanded. Boo-Fucking-Hoo.
MUST SEE
The mainstream media has frankly put the security of our great country at risk with an Obama coronation media like CNN & MSNBC is the only way Obama managed to steal the Dem nom. It’s extremely concerning that so many Americans could care less about who their candidate really is?? simply amazing and frankly scarey.
PLEASE WATCH AND SHARE WITH EVERYONE ASAP
The Hon. James David Manning, PhD. The Last 100 Days” …
http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr07-28-08.html
http://www.dontvoteobama.net
MUST SEE
No longer can Americans trust the media, which was given special constitutional privileges to look out for the folks.”Obama is an empty suit. From the day he was sworn in to the Senate to the date he declared his run for the presidency, is only 145 days on the job. He has literally no experience. (Not figuratively, literally!) He’s not qualified to run a Dairy Queen.
Proven Obama has most liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate. Obama is to the left of Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Russ Feingold, Pat Leahy and Barbara Boxer. That’s extremely difficult to do. Obama is a textbook big-government, tax-and-spend liberal. He plans to raise income tax rates, capital gains tax rates, Social Security taxes (by virtue of eliminating the cap), dividend taxes, inheritance taxes, and introduce a slew of new taxes. His plan will destroy this country
To ALL the obamakins and of course the bias CNN & MSNBC I have one simple request. Please spare me the hope and the change bull, and the Bush’s third term, McSame etc… Please just tell American voters what qualifies Barack Obama to run this country. What qualifies him to oversee our $14 trillion economy, the largest on earth? What qualifies him to be commander-in-chief of the U.S. armed forces in a time of war? Please just give me one single solid qualification. And race does not qualify!! That would be one more than anyone including cable media has provided to date. WE ALL HAVE GROWN EXTREMLY TIRED OF MEDIA SAINTED OBAMA….
Obama keeps reaching back to Chicago political past for policy advisers, and pulling one despicable, vile, and even evil “rabbit†after another out of his hat.
The list of Barack Obama’s radical associations is long and it keeps getting longer. Some are now well-known, but many are not. They need to be.
23 years at TUCC with Jeremiah Wright and James Meeks. racist sermons on Youtube.
He chose the most radical church in the country; chose to immerse himself in hard-core ideological radicalism. Never before has this country considered such a radical leftist for its chief executive.
Michael Pfleger and his hateful and race-hating ramblings, Obama met while carrying out his own radical social activism as community organizer at ACORN, (radical organization)
Penny Pritzker, heads Obama camp National Finance Committee was president of Superior Bank – massively failed and she literally bought her way out of jail paying $460 MILLION fine; was the very epicenter of subprime loan scandal†that would come to eat this nation’s financial system alive.
Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson, former head of Obama’s vice presidential selection committee, discovered he benefited from sweetheart loans from subprime king Countrywide.
Tony Rezko certainly and his federal indictments and financial dealing with Obamas of course and William Ayers, US terrorist bomber, Obama-co-lecturer, fellow board member, neighbor, and friend.
Communist Frank Marshall Davis, obama mentor; Saul Alinsky and Gerald Kellman (Kellman’s Woods Fund is how Obama hooked up with terrorist William Ayers)
Chicago lawyer Mazen Asbahi, appointed as Obama camp national coord for Muslim n affairs also stepped down after news about his stint on the fund’s board – which includes fundamentalist imam – prompting The Wall Street Journal inquiries about relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood and his long personal relationship with Hamas Jamal Said.
Obama desperately needs voters to forget hes the son of a Muslim father who served an incredibly brutal and corrupt Kenyan government; to forget he attended a madrassa in Indonesia and practiced Islam; forget that he campaigned in Kenya on behalf of Raila Odinga, who relied upon chaos, corruption, and violence in his campaign; numerous associations with radical Muslims; forget the photographs of Obama in traditional Muslim clothes, hanging with Muslim radicals such as Mazen Asbahi and anti-Semite Rashid Khalidi.
The mainstream media has frankly put the security of our great country at risk with an Obama coronation media like CNN & MSNBC is the only way Obama managed to steal the Dem nom. It’s extremely concerning that so many Americans could care less about who their candidate really is?? simply amazing and frankly scarey.
PLEASE WATCH AND SHARE WITH EVERYONE ASAP
The Hon. James David Manning, PhD. The Last 100 Days” …
http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr07-28-08.html
http://www.dontvoteobama.net
An Other Greek
oh yeah, the BIG MEDIA really want a “radical” “liberal” like Obama to run the US,
even though he is not qualified to “run a Dairy Queen”…
WOW
What poisonous, vile, hate…
Besides the part where the arguments are WRONG and ridiculous, the passion is scary, and telling!…
THIS IS A HUGE MOMENT FOR AMERICA !!!!
Visualize Obama, and our post-race destiny awaits!
Hooray for our future!
Good riddance to our damning past…
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mark
Must See,
and you trust the fate of the free world to a ditzy old fool who can’t get on the internet alone?
btw. McSame just brought back Phil WHINER Graham, and floated a balloon about a pro-choice VP, I think Grampy is trying to take a DIVE in the 9th round. maybe he finally realised exactly HOW F*CKED Cheney/Bush are leaving this country, I can’t imagine wanting that job of shoveling all the sh*t the neo-cons left behind.
Sam
Must See,
You hit the nail right on the head! Stunning how the Obama-maniacs go postal the second anyone says anything less than perfection about their Chosen One.
For some of us, the future of our country is more important than the Democratic Party – a party taken over by the left-wing ramblings of Nancy Cunt Pelosi and Howard Dickhead Dean.
A real tragedy the Democratic Party jumped the shark this cycle – and decided to GIVE the election to McCain. THEY ARE TIED IN NATIONAL POLLS…..Where’s Obama’s big lead? There is no lead because he can’t close the deal.
NO-bama – not now……not EVER!!!!
No-bambi
Huh, geez I didn’t know that when I was born gay that I was obligated to shill for the Democratic Party for the rest of my life. Cuz boy they’ve really done a lot for the LGBT community the past 20 years….oh yeah, we got “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”….WOW, what an advance that was???!!!
More than any party affiliation, I am an American and therefore the future of my country is far more important than any dumb ass party affiliation. Bambi can say it till he’s hoarse “McBush” “McSame”, etc…..too bad he’s counting too much on people’s ignorance to get their vote.
Perhaps after he loses he can go back to Chicago and hang out with his homeboys Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright & Rev Pflager….that arrogant, racist fuck!
An Other Greek
Beware of THE SAME TROLLS using different names but
the MCSAME words, and the MCSAME indefensible and irrational arguments…
And, you may have to ask yourself: Where does all that passion come from? Why?
Why do they so hate Obama?
Why would they rather have a re3publican?
Is it their perception of Israel’s interests trumping Democratic goals as this Queerty post so heavily suggests, even though noone is directly addressing it in their comments?
Is it racism?
Is it a combination of both?
(and really, any shrill outbursts about Obama’s supposed lack of qualification borders on the surreal after 8 years of “the monkey”. Get real. We see you.)
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mark
Those Democrats didn’t make any differance to the lives of LGBT americans….uh…what are you smokin?
Lawrence vs. Texas which stopped the government from trapsing into our G*D DAMN bedrooms, that was liberal justices that gave us that.
ALL but one HIV/AIDS drugs keeping PWAs alive were developed because Bill Clinton fast forwarded drugs thru the FDA…only ONE drug has been developed under Cheney/Bush.
The only two openly gay/lesbian members of Congress are Democrats.
Look at any State’s ENDA laws, all were passed in Democratic run States.
An Other Greek
Mark, if you actually have to explain and post these things, you are falling into a troll-hole…
Everyone knows this, no need for clarification…
these are troll tactics to obfuscate, derail, and subversively accomplish : WHAT?
Let us ponder that….
Why are these trolls using upside-down-world arguments to smear Obama?
What is their ultimate goal?
A tit-for-tat session may show how they are wrong and agents of obfuscation, but really, we all know that…
The point is: WHAT IS THEIR —REAL— AGENDA?
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Troll
An Other Greek
“Everyone knows this, no need for clarification.”
Who’s everyone? You?
Agenda? How sinister.
Ponder away, I’ve got a life.
An Other Greek
Yes, “Troll”, everyone knows.
Everyone knows it is the Democrats that are the party for civil rights, imperfect as they are.
Everyone knows that the Repuglicans have a regressive, homophobic, and status-quo from the days-of-yore agenda.
If anyone, especially a gay citizen,
and especially a Queerty visitor (!),
does not know this,
they are beyond any poster’s help…
mkay “Troll”?
So let’s focus on the real issue:
Why is there such hate against Obama, particularly as expressed here in this thread?
The Queerty post suggests that it is an agenda as identified by pro right-wing Israeli politicing…
Some comments suggest racism…
Any thoughts folks?
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mark
An Other Greek
You have a much more optomistic trust in what some younger LGBT folks know about what I lived through,,,since before Stonewall…even before Mattachine Society.
The embarrassingly uninformed people Jay Leno interviews who know nothing about polotics, nothing about geography, hell most can’t answer a pop culture question. Many of these Jay Walkers could easily be LGBT.
mark
politics typo
An Other Greek
Mark,
call me crazy for wanting to focus on my stated intent, (something that I’ve stated maybe 4 times in this thread) rather than educating Queerty posters on the vices of the Repuglicans and the assets of the Dems when it comes to human/gay rights.
IMHO, what we have here are uber-informed gays, enlightened straights, and a bunch of trolls that try to hoodwink and derail substantive dialogue…
as such, they are succeeding.
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Terry
An Other Greek
After reading your posts, okay, I’ll call you crazy! Apparently you think anyone that disagrees with you is a “troll” (your term) and has some type of agenda.
How sad it must be to try and have a conversation with you since you obviously know everything!
Information = Intelligence = Not Ignorant
Try it sometime!
An Other Greek
Thanks for your opinion Terry.
But, since you read hopefully more than my posts, you would call this a conversation???
Must See at # 15 and # 16?
Sam at #19?
NoBambi at #20?
Yes, I will call these TROLLS, and repeat the suspicion they may be one. (and btw, You calling me crazy doesn’t really send good signals for “conversation” either…)
And, if you READ the QUEERTY post, the hosts felt compelled enough to post a very particular topic and open it for comments.
The trolls derail the conversation, this is not news, this is strategy and tactic. Often these are paid agents/shills. Again, this is not theory.
The conversation then becomes childish and insulting, while the issue at hand goes UNANSWERED.!!!!!!!!!!!
To quote the hosts: “One of pro-Clinton groups, Hillary Now, has issued a press release urging their members to back John McCain, rather than Obama, who they call an enemy of Israel.”
Is there anyone reading this interested in the issue raised? Its implications?
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Mr C
What is there there to implicate Boo?
Lets these GOONS vote for McCain and once he wins (Hopefully not) you better throw your WHITE cap on to survive because any part of you that’s Gay can forget it.
You girls are in danger and will deserve every bit of HORRORBILITY that he will cast on tbis community.
Get over it Hillary is not the savior and unfortunately she did NOT win and just remember she didn’t have 18 million votes she only had him beat by a couple of thousand votes and his 17,000,000.00 supporters will remember this in 2012 especially if he doesn’t win. Just like how all the Clinton supporters are threathing us now!
So she won’t win that primary neither!
CHURCHILL-Y
To anyone who still has any doubts as to why some are calling Obama an enemy of Israel check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g
and also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25NiwvPNanM&feature=related
You might also want to do a search on the many reports about Obama’s shady campaign funding money. Some which hint at possible Palestinian and Saudi donor origins.
mark
Churchlady
You want to get into who took MASSIVE funds from the Saudi donors, really?
REALLY???
http://phi-spiral.com/newsimages/bush%20holds%20hand.jpg
Who had the motherf*ckin House of Saud on speed dial, and at their Crawford estate holding their hands and kissing all over them? Who ordered ALL of bin laden relatives safely out of the USA when no one else was allowed to fly?
It’s amazing you don’t choke on hypocricy you spew.
Candy
Chuchill-Y
I’m with you on this one. Just one of the many inconsistencies and half-truths from the Obama campaign. Just one more reason – among MANY – to take a long, hard look at Obama before I pull the Democratic lever this election – at least on the national level.
CHURCHILL-Y
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=71431
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS199627+06-Aug-2008+PRN20080806
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/in-digging-deep.html
Thank you CANDY, it’s comforting to know I’m not alone and that there are other brothers and sisters who see through this false change facade.
It always hurts me when people like the ones above you call me names(which I more than often can’t control myself in returning back at them) or not Gay for not following blindly this man. If I didn’t love my whole GLBT community I would not be speaking truth in the face of such fanaticism. Was Bill damaging for us in the eight years he was in the White House: Yes and that’s what I would hate to see another repeat of him with this so called agent of change. The writing is on the wall and we only have our selves to blame if we pay no attention to it.
seitan-on-a-stick
Senator Hillary Clinton must be Ecstatic for her chances of winning the Presidency in 2012 since Barack Obama officially chose Senator Joe Biden as his running mate. Chosing experience over a littany of off the cuff comments in which Biden constantly finds himself in. We ask ourselves, who’s side will Biden be a pitbull for or against? This Motor Mouth Mabel could well sink the ticket like Dan Quayle did for Bush Sr or Joe Lieberman for Al Gore or John Edwards for John Kerry. It’s a good thing that Hillary can keep Senator Evan Bayh, the only Electoral College advantage to the O.B ticket to herself in 2012 against McCain should his recent surge translate to a win. They’re screwed if the Maverick Cadaver-in-waiting chooses Condi Rice!
Go Obama-Biden!
This is the Official Pick
(just) the messenger (don’t shoot me!)
Gceres
Nobama 08 – PUMA
Joan Herbst
OBAMA08!!!!!!!!!!!!