WorldNet Daily’s Tristan Emmanuel may take the cake for wackiest, most absurd and ultimately laughable anti-gay marriage harangue:
Obviously, everybody knows that heterosexual unions have suffered tremendously from the effects of the so-called sexual revolution. The ideas of free love, free sex and no commitment have had devastating consequences on the idea of monogamy.
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The ’60s generation talked about free love and no commitment; our post-modern world is living that idea to the hilt. People just don’t believe in living in committed monogamous relationships – and the biggest culprits in that regard are homosexuals.
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Monogamous homosexual relationships, for the most part, exist only in the world of partisan propaganda, not in empirical reality.
Of course gays are destroying marriage! We’re also causing global warming, supplied Saddam with WMDs and are secretly cheering for a complete Chinese takeover! Oh, and you’re right: there’s no such thing as a monogamous gay relationship. We made that up just to scare conservacunts like you, Emmanuel.
ToddC
A lot of my friends are in committed monogamous relationships. Some of my friends are in committed open relationships. Some of my friends are in committed relationships where they play with other couples. The way they are united is that they are all happy and committed to each other. Why do heteros care how someone else’s relationship works? Butt out.
Mike
If a heteros are so afraid of gay marriage then they are NOT very secure in their own marriages.
Besides, it is not necessarily a RELIGIOUS ceremony we are asking for. It is more the RIGHTS granted to marrieds that we seek. A civil marriage will do to start. We can then work on the other.
Gregg
Straight folks don’t need to PROVE monogamy in order to get married. The civil rights of marriage are not about monogamy. So get out of our bedrooms and let us get married!
dizzyspins
Look, the reality is that gays havent put as much as an emphasis on monogamous long-term relationships as straights have. Thats not because we’re innately whorish, its because society doesnt do anything to encourage us to–in fact they seem hellbent on making sure we dont settle into commited relationships. Straight people wouldnt get married if their families, churchs and communities werent subtly and overtly pushing them into it. I, for one, would love it if my mom kept bugging me about when Im gonna settle down with a nice guy.
Chips Ahoy!
@ dizzyspins:
When I have kids I plan on being the quintessential Jewish mother. By which I mean I’ll be nagging them to get married and have kids as soon as they graduate from college. I don’t care if they’re gay or straight. That being said…
“When are you going to meet a nice girl and get married and give me some grandkids?”
“You’re gay? When are you going to meet a nice boy, move to Massachusetts and get married, and adopt some kids from a 3rd world country? You know the one Angelina and Brad went to!”
Mr. B
Hey, congrats on your 40 years, Thom. May you have many more!
jbran
And, where’s the “empirical reality” that straight people are monogamous? The claim of monogamy is propaganda no matter the sexual orientation of the person claiming it, otherwise, you’d have to have a study where a person in a monogamous relationship was followed for his/her entire life to make sure that they were telling the truth. It’s just a stupid thing to say.
Heather_L_James
Kudos to you Thom. I haven’t met many people I could stand four days in Tahiti with, let alone fourty years.
Ok, onto monogamy. The patriarchy wants you to believe that monogamy is the natural human inclination. In reality, history paints a much different picture. One of the oldest stories from the bible is that of David sending Uriah to the front lines of battle in the hopes that he might be killed and David could get a little nookie from Bathsheba. Humans just don’t do monogamy very well, never have never will.
Ironically, our closest primate relative, the bonobo (it’s not chimps) is the least monogamous animal on the planet. Furthermore, the bonobos engage in same sex relationships daily. It is high time people re-examine what makes them tick. Personally I think most of the reason for all the angst in the world is that cultural norms and mores are in direct conflict with biological urges.
Craig Browning
Hmmm… I worked in the “Kink” industry throughout much of the 80s and early 90s i.e. Jim Ward & the Gauntlet Gang as well as Alan Selby of Mr. S Leathers. I can tell you rather directly, that over 60% of our business catered to the Heterosexual market of kink vs. the gay & lesbian folk for whom such “immorality” is so often drawn into question.
Then too, I believe that statistics reveal far more spousal as well as child abuse, including sexual based abused, stemming from within those sanctified marriages than can be found anywhere within the Gay & Lesbian community with particular focus on those children we’ve all helped raise and too, the fact that is was our energy, effort and forethought that sought to PROTECT & EDUCATE the good christian raised heterosexual children along side their bigoted parents, during the early days of AIDS… something that’s since been usurped by big business and pseudo-religious factions and presented as if it was all “their” idea and acts of moral concern.
Truth of the matter is, I think that there are comparatively as many if not more gay & lesbian couples who can and do maintain a healthier sense of monogamy in their lives, not to mention a more open and honest sense of morality, than we will see in the heterosexual world… there are more “closeted” situations in that real, not all of it dealing with gay type interactions, than one could possibly count.
By nature human beings… especially the male of the species, is not naturally monogamous. That is why, as a matter of tradition, family lines were traced via the mother in most ancient cultures vs. the father, in that most knew who the mother was whereas the father was frequently long gone before the baby came into the world… funny how things haven’t changed all that much, eh?
Fact is, I support the Pagan idea of a Hand fasting… promise yourself for a set number of years to one another and repeat as desired but the “Life” commitment only comes into play after the 5th time the two of you have had the ritual.