“Horrific” and “evil”. Those are two of the adjectives MP George Galloway used to describe a knife attack on a 20-year old gay man known only as Olly.
Olly and a girl friend were leaving an East London bar this week when a gang of five men seized upon him, broke a bottle on his and stabbed him seven times in the back and torso. Obviously Olly’s not doing well and remains in hospital. Coppers, meanwhile, are skipping over assault charges and going straight for attempted murder.
The viciousness of the attack sparked Galloway’s outrage. He remarked: “This is a sickening and vile assault. A near fatal knife attack on a defenseless man is horrific enough. The fact that this also appears to be a homophobic hate crime compounds the evil.”
tallskin
Amazing that this vile man has come out to attack muslims attacking gays! He usually always on the side of muslims against gays.
But worrying that muslim yoof are becoming so blatent in their hatred of gays that they are now attacking us on the streets.
tallskin
Oh fuck there have been 47 anti gay attacks in the area over the past 12 months.
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/content/towerhamlets/advertiser/news/story.aspx?brand=elaonline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsela&itemid=WeED03%20Sep%202008%2020%3A44%3A41%3A983
Carl
Hang on. Where does it say that Muslims committed the attack?
Why do people seem to think that Islam is the only homophobic religion? All the anti-gay laws in the middle east, levant and margheb were introduced by either England or France. Islam didn’t seemingly have a problem with it for 1,000 years prior.
tallskin
Carl, what the fuck sky pixie religion do you think bengalis practice????? DOH
And the area under consideration is heavily populated by muslim immigrants from Bengal. (Bengal is attached to the Indian sub-continent in case you don’t know, and you probably don’t !)
There was a Channel 4 undercover investigation of what the main Mosque in london was teaching kids – there was one last year which found horrific attitudes and teaching that gays should be killed etc and that muslims must not mix with non-believers – and this recent expose investigated the women’s section and the reporter filmed women muslims teaching KIDS that gays should be killed.
And this sort of shit is being taught all over the UK, the central london mosque is just the biggest and because they know they are under investigation they are being careful (yeah unbelievable!) so heaven knows what the other mosques are preaching – I do know that they all cheer when a terrorist attack by muslims happens, that is common knowledge.
Personally I would close all the mosques here down as they are poisoning minds with anti-gay, anti-women, and anti-western attitudes.
Darth Paul
Shouldn’t you attack the hands-off approach your sad, inbred, pasty-faced island has clung to regarding immigrants since the 60s? Go join the BNP, you twat.
tallskin
Darth Paul, your ignorance is as astounding as your stupidity. But no surprise there, eh?
France has followed a policy of forced assimilation, allowing no multi-culturalism but now has serious problems with its muslims. The UK (UK stand for the the United Kingdom, you dumbarse) has followed a policy of hands-off and multi-culturalism, thinking that allowing immigrant groups to assimilate or not would be nicer. Well, the UK is in the shit as big as France is.
Common aspects? Oh yes, Muslims. Muslims who have made several attacks on innocent brits going about their business on busses, tubes, airports, in nightclubs etc etc.
And muslims who are preaching hatred towards non-muslims in their mosques.
It may well be that the USA has a better policy towards its muslim immigrants because the USA has not allowed immigrants to collect welfare payments without having to work and sit glowering and resentful about the decadent western culture (ie freedom for gays and allowing women to go about semi-naked).
But Darth you are such a dumb turd that I doubt if any reasoned explanation or argument could penetrate your thick skull. So, I haven’t written this for you but for others on here with more intelligence, to read.
Carl
WHERE does it say they did it? Show me where? It says there is a problem with a MINORITY of Bengali youth. How does that translate to an Islamic motivated gay bashing?
And bollocks is Shoreditch full of Muslims. I live in Hackney and go past the George & Dragon everyday on my way to work. That the pub is in an area frequented by drunk white middle class EMOs that dress up in second hand clothing. There is a Baptist Church in the lot behind it. No mosque to be seen. The Bengalis are more in Whitechapel.
I’m not defending Islam, I think all religion is evil. So fine with the Channel 4 documentary. But have you seen Jesus Camp where kids are encouraged to die for Jesus?
“so heaven knows what the other mosques are preaching” doesn’t cut it as proof for me.
Not all muslims believe what you say they do. I should know, I have one inside me most nights as my boyfriend. His family don’t. My muslim friends don’t (my gay muslim friends that is). My straight Lebanese Shia Muslim female friends don’t either.
Well thankfully its not up to you. But like I say, I agree that the religious doctrine is homophobic. But some of what is being said is just plain shrill and not true.
tallskin
Carl,
I have met people who are or were english convert muslims and have left that sky pixie belief system because they said they couldn’t cope with the horrific anti gay, anti western, anti women sermons being preached every day. And they were utterly appalled by the cheering when another muslim terrorist attack was announced.
and Carl, it is really just splitting hairs for you to say that: “It says there is a problem with a MINORITY of Bengali youth. How does that translate to an Islamic motivated gay bashing?” If it says in that newspaper article I provided a link to, and the police refuse to disclose the race of the attackers of this gay kid. Why would the police do that, unless they were worried about inter-community relations?
However, I will concede that it may well NOT be muslim yoofs who attacked this kid, but so far the evidence seems to suggest that it was.
John
Carl,
The Koran strictly forbids homosexuality:
Sura (7:80-84) – “…For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds…. And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)”
Sura (26:165-166) – “Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, “And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing”
Bukhari (72:774) – “The Prophet cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, ‘Turn them out of your houses .’ The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and ‘Umar turned out such-and-such woman.”
So does the Hadith:
“If a man comes upon a man, then they are both adulterers. If a woman comes upon a woman, they are both adulteresses.â€
“When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes.â€
“Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to.”
And since most Muslim nations have no concept of “separation of mosque and state,” these laws have always been applied at the perogative of the ruling Sultan, Emir, Sheik, Mullah, or Caliph. If the ruler wants to punish homosexuals harshly, then he will command his minions to actively persecute them. If he wants to secretly tolerate it, then he will largely ignore the matter completely. However, it is never morally nor legally acceptable to publically allow homosexuality in Islam.
It has nothing to do with colonialism either. This sort of hypocriscy was the norm in the Muslim world long before the 19th century.
It is a myth to suggest that homophobia orginated only in the West. There are a number of reasons why anti-gay policies are enacted. Towards the end of his life, for example, Genghis Khan became increasingly obsessed with procreation (his Mongol warriors were outnumbered 100 to 1 by their unhappy subjects). So, he banned homosexuality on pain of death.
faghag
was this around Hoxton ?
because there are a lots of homophobic/anti semitic muslim youth from nearby bricklane area who have attacked several of my friends in the last six months.
Anon
The local community believes the attack was carried out by a group of Bengali youths because a precedent has been set for this kind of attack.
Not long ago a group of Muslim youths committed a homophobic acid attack on a woman exiting a well-known gay friendly cafe on the street that runs perpendicular to Boundary Street.
It is not illiberal to identify the perpetrators of this horrific, and entirely indefensible attack.