
If you’re a fan of adult content on sites such as Sean Cody, Randy Blue and Lucas Entertainment, you’re greatly indebted to a man named Chuck Holmes. Holmes founded the legendary Falcon Studios in 1971, and helped gay men feel proud of their sexuality during an era when distributing pornography was still a criminal offense and adult films were still described as “dirty.” He would eventually use the incredible fortune he amassed for philanthropy, funding HIV/AIDS outreach programs, as well as San Francisco Community Center Project, Amnesty International, The Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund and the Human Rights Campaign, as well as helping finance Bill Clinton’s presidential campaign. Filmmaker Mike Stabile spent more than half a decade researching the life and career of the mogul, who died of AIDS-related causes in 2000, and the result is the riveting Seed Money, which Outfest will screen at the Director’s Guild on July 13. Stabile spoke with Queerty about Holmes’ career, the risks adult filmmakers faced in the 1970s and what happened to Falcon porn stars when they left the business.
Queerty: What sparked your interest in Chuck as a documentary subject?
Mike Stabile: I had a friend (producer Jack Shamama) who was working at Falcon several years ago. The company had just been sold, and they were throwing out the most incredible material, most of it related to Chuck — pictures of his yacht, photos with Al Gore, FBI indictments — and this incredible story began to unfold of a man who was essentially the gay Hugh Hefner, who’d built this empire and gone on to help fund the gay rights movement.
What purpose does pornography serve in our culture?
I think it depends who you are. For most of us, out in major gay hubs, it’s light and pleasurable entertainment, like pop music or a Hollywood blockbuster. Something to tide us over. But until the late ‘90s, it was one of the only places you could see gay culture represented in a positive way, outside of a few art house movies and “Very Special Episodes” of sitcoms. And so for many gay men, coming of age in hostile environments, gay porn showed that there was another world out there — mostly in California — where you could meet other men and live openly and happily. It showed that you weren’t sick, that you weren’t alone. And for people in the closet, of course, or people who are elderly or disabled, it can be one of the mainstays of sexuality.
What distinguishes Chuck from other pornographers from his era, such as Matt Sterling?
Chuck was a businessman, first and foremost. He loved sex, and he loved porn, and he knew that to be the successful, he not only had to be the best, he had to be dependable. The early gay pornographers seem to fall into two camps: artist or con men. They either wanted to create something beautiful or meaningful, or they wanted to just make money, no matter how bad it was. Chuck seems to have had a bit of both in him, and I think that helped him really transform the industry.
The film touches on the subject of racism in pornography. The most popular performers seemed to be midwestern white boys with blond hair. What was the response when Chuck introduced black performers into his films?
There were always black men in Falcon movies, but they were few and far between. And they’d have titles like Mandingo, or be put in thug roles. I wish I could say it’s changed much in today’s porn. The racial politics of Falcon in the ‘80s was one of the early and compelling reasons that we wanted to make this film. We had one director tell us he had to fight to cast a brunettes, because Chuck only wanted to film blonds. Part of it was Chuck — his own racial issues, his own sexual biases — but part was also the fact that he’d been busted for selling interracial porn. And of course, the gay male market can be tremendously racist as well. I wish I could say that’s changed today.
Being a pornographer in the 1970s was a risky occupation. How did the filmmakers avoid being arrested?
It was difficult. In the beginning, it was all underground — you sold porn like you might sell drugs today. Getting caught get you sent to federal prison for years — for one movie! So it was a secret society. You found customers through word of mouth, you didn’t send things to politically conservative states (like Texas or Utah). You avoided having your picture taken, which is one of the reasons we have so little footage of Chuck. You kept your locations secret, and you tried not to draw attention to yourself. And still, many directors, like Matt Sterling and William Higgins, were either sent to prison or driven out of the country.
Jeff Stryker implies that Chuck was eventually arrested for making fisting videos. What was the real reason for his arrest and what was the impact of his lawsuit?
Chuck had shipped a 8mm film to an address in Tennesee, that turned out to be a member of law enforcement looking to entrap him. In the ‘70s, obscenity was defined by “community standards,” so if the Feds wanted to get you, they’d trick you into shipping something into a socially conservative local. In this case, it was an interracial film. He was indicted along with Matt Sterling, but Chuck threw tons of money at the case, so that he could delay it and have it moved to San Francisco, where he prevailed. Matt Sterling, who was always more cautious with money, did not, and went to prison in Texas.
Chuck was initially an outsider but his wealth and power opened a lot of powerful doors for him. He was even photographed with the Clintons. Did they know who he was? Did Chuck have political influence?
Some did and some didn’t. Chuck was often in the closet about where his wealth came from, and for many in politics it was an open secret. But it certainly came back to bite him.
How did Chuck or pornography in general contribute to LGBT equality?
Chuck certainly contributed financially, and I think he thought of that as his real legacy — the National AIDS Memorial Grove in SF, the Gay and Lesbian Center, the Human Rights Campaign and the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund. But I look at his films as even more important. I think for many gay men, they were the original “It Gets Better” video, a way to imagine that life could be different, that life could be fulfilling, that you could be sexual and happy, rather than lonely and suicidal.
How has adult filmmaking changed since Chuck’s heyday?
In some ways, it’s returned to those early days — 15 minute ‘loops’ shot in hotels and bedrooms. At a screening in San Francisco, Falcon director John Rutherford said his budget for a big film in the ’90s was $500,000. Today, it’s $15,000.
How have the lives of Falcon performers such as Jeff Stryker, who you interview in the film, changed since they’ve left the adult film business?
We talked to a lot of former Falcon stars, and it really ran the gamut. Some were selling real estate, and the industry was a distant memory. Others were married, or doing personal training, or working in the industry as a director. And others were having a harder time getting by. As a culture, we’re often backward in the way we treat porn stars — treat them like they’re wearing a scarlet letter, and then blame them when they can’t escape their past.
What do you see as Chuck’s legacy?
That it’s important to be proud of who you are, and to not let people shame you for your sexuality. There were groups that wouldn’t accept Chuck because of what he did for a living, even within our own community. As gay people, we’re more than just our sexuality, sure, but it doesn’t mean that we should be embarrassed, or hide it just because the Christian right is scared of it. It’s something to celebrate, and to be proud of.
Bob LaBlah
Wow! What a way to start off a Sunday morning. Tim Kramer, Leo Ford and the black guy who were in the hottest scene to that date (dp on Leo Ford). Both Tim and Leo left us too early in life (Tim died of AIDS with just about nothing on the market at that time to help him and Leo died in a motorcycle crash). I never knew who the black guy was but he was hot and in quite a few other movies. These were the days of 8mm/Super 8 silent home movies that required a noisy ass projector (unless you went to a twenty five cent arcade) and star billing wasn’t always in the picture back then, studio be damned.
Thank you Queerty for reminding me of how old I am and this beautiful article.
Wil Chaney
The Clintons have been standing on the throat of equality for decades, wake up!
Ladbrook
The Clintons have a long history of taking money from rich gays and for making promises to the greater LGBT community. They always stabbed us in the back after cashing the checks. End the masochism and vote for Bernie.
Christopher22
@Bob LaBlah: Looks like you saw the 1982 movie ‘Style’ and the black guy is Art Williams. From another’s description of film: “Art Williams has a fun time with two young blondes at poolside. The camera work is creative. One scene shows Art looking through his mirrored sunglasses while he watches Leo Ford working him over. He looks up and we see the reflection of Tim Kramer approaching. Art provides interracial action for these two Nordic types.” Wish I could find the movie!!
Clark35
@Wil Chaney: Exactly. If you look back at them they’re both not exactly for LGBT rights here in the United States.
MarionPaige
in re race in Falcon videos: “Part of it was Chuck — his own racial issues, his own sexual biases — but part was also the fact that he’d been busted for selling interracial porn.”
I related to Mike Stabile “lore” surrounding one of Falcon’s Other Side of Aspen videos that had an inter-racial scene with OG Johnson (Black) and a White Twink. At the time, Stabile said he could not find evidence of a prosecution related to that film so, I don’t know if the “prosecution” Stabile mentions here IS the one related to OG Johnson. However,
The story of OG Johnson’s inter-racial scene is legendary and could make for a movie in an of its. While OG Johnson is topping this White Twink, the Twink yells this infamous / famous line: “F M W A”. It’s legend.
Back in the day, a producer was quoted in an old gay mag saying that the distributors of that film had to be nuts to distribute that inter-racial scene in the south. AND, I recently watched a clip of that scene and the line from the twink had been edited out.
We wrote a story suggesting that the return of the “BLACK BUCK” at a number of gay adult companies today probably has to do with the fact that gay adult content can now be streamed around the world from the net – and that companies may see less of the risk of litigation associated with shipping physical media to the south and other conservative areas.
BTW, getting adult companies to ship content to conservative areas is still part of the game plan for federal prosecutors. An infamous Straight Adult Producer who bragged about how extreme his product saw the feds order one of his videos from a very conservative area near Pittsburg PA. The prosecution is legend in the Adult Industry.
Bob LaBlah
@Christopher22: Thanks for giving me his name. He was cute. So was Bobby Blake, Gene Lamar, Randy Cochran (whom I met in Baltimore years ago). I’m almost SURE if you do a google search of “gay 1980’s movie titled Style” it will come up on one of the free porn sites. Click the video section at the top of the Google page and it should come up. Many of those sites hold treasures I thought long forgotten. Remember The paperboy and Mr. Egan? Personally I always thought that it was their (white producers) loss that they chose to ignore black models, who were more or less begging to be let in. It used to be where if a performer were paired with a black guy he was on his way out of porn (in other words the paying public had either tired of him or the drug used had reached the point the producers were dumping him gradually). Joey Stefano was proof of that as his declined began to show.
Another all time great scene had Tristan Paris taking on three black guys in an orgy for his last hurrah in porn. That kid (Tristan Paris) was so young looking he HAD to have side burns in each scene in order to keep the controversy down about how old he was.
Falcon/Jocks/Mustang came up with this obnoxious hunk called Matthew Rush whom to this day I bet he wakes up cursing the black blood in his veins because he always came off as though he thinks he were white in every scene and personal appearance, which it was obvious he wasn’t. That business was not for everyone back in the 1970’s and 1980’s and I laugh now at how they are hurting thanks to free porn on the internet, much of which tops the studio produced shit that one is asked to pay to see. Hal Rothenburg, the guy who produce Black Sweat featuring David Watson (who will go down as one of the all time great black twinks ever filmed in porn) made more money off of that one film than many of those studios made in a year. He proved there was an untapped market for black porn stars but those assholes were too entrenched in what they were taught as kids to see the financial side of it. Again, their loss.
Stache99
@Wil Chaney: That’s really all you took from this post> Serious? Hmm…
jason smeds
Porn is not sex. Porn is prostitution. There is no redeeming quality to it. People who watch porn are usually those with poor social lives.
Josh447
Oh yeah right. Good luck trying to back that up. Give it your best shot smart guy.
Curty
Too much content on porn stars, hookers and dirt bags on here. There are some glbt people who have good careers, in business, that aren’t in the adult film industry and bar owners… as far as Bill Clinton. Fuck him, he sent equality back for years with doma and dadt. And Hillary. I just don’t trust her to get anything done for glbt people. She is just pandering for votes right now from the glbt community.
Josh447
Thanks Jeremy, for the info that this premier is Monday night. Our group will enjoy it I’m sure.
Bob LaBlah
@Jade Price: Wasn’t your company featured on American Greed as rip-off of glbt people to damn lazy to exercise?
Josh447
Curly,
This is one of the most informative gay news junkets on the net, and one of the most expanded. If you don’t like it maybe Fox News is more your cut? Either way, the Clintons did what they had to do with Congress to stay relavent at the time. Just like Obama did w flip flopping on gay issues. Do you get that? It’s a new playing field now. Hillary will do just fine. Or might you have another pick that you would prefer?
Bob LaBlah
@jason smeds: Earth to Jason. Earth to Jason. Your obviously having nothing else to do with your life but read an online article and the comment section on a subject you claim to despise sure as hell doesn’t help make you sound like Fava Flav nor the Belle of the Ball at Arena.
Stefano
@jason smeds: you sound like a broken record. We get it, you hate yourself and you need attention…i know i was like you. You need to raise your low self-esteem because the only one you are hurting is yourself.
Dan Steele
Bill is the president that signed DOMA, right?
Glücklich
@Bob LaBlah:
Those early Falcon video packs have some of the absolute hottest scenes ever concocted. “Weekend Lockup” is not to be missed. Al Parker was the big star but Roy and Will Seagers steal the show. And of course, “Spokes” with its “initiation”…*fans self*…your Leo Ford, plus Dick Fisk, Lee Ryder, Mark Hunter. It helps I’ve long had a thing for cyclists. Or lycra.
Curty
JOSH447 They were On the wrong side of history and Obama flip flopped and made a difference. He repeal dadt, did not support doma. He came in favor for same sex marriage. The Clintons have done nothing for the glbt community. Clinton used discriminatory laws to demean gay people. Hilary is now pandering for votes. I do not believe she is sincere about glbt equality but is an opportunist. That being said I don’t trust her. She maybe the nominee this time and if the case I won’t vote for her or gop but she may get elected anyway.
Josh447
Would you consider voting for the better of the two, even though you don’t like either? If you don’t vote pro gay, couldn’t that no vote help the gop anti gay crowd?
Bob LaBlah
@Curty: If you keep history in mind she will once again fail at getting that nomination, just as all the other women did for some reason or “other”. Liddy Dole made a big splash when she jumped in back in 2000 but within months the old witch had to admit defeat and move on. The late Shirley Chilsom and Barbara Jordan were floated as candidates back in the 1970’s and dropped out because it was discovered they were lesbians, as was Condoleeza Rice for the same reason.
Hillary is flying high because of her husband but she is too stupid to realize that book she ghost wrote after she left the Sec. of State job only showed what a two faced bitch she is. She did that for no other reason than to stab Obama in the back, but look what happened instead. Neither her nor her husband have done shit for the LGBT community that amounted to nothing more than a photo op. That hillbilly makes me sick to my stomach every time I see her. Hopefully the people will wake up and see either former Md. Gov. Martin Omalley (D) or former NY Gov. George Pataki (R) as viable choices. Fuck Hillary and barring George Pataki, all the GOP candidates too.
bafan200
Bill Clinton’s first official act as president of the US was to sign an executive order allowing gays in the military. His first press conference the next day lasted almost an hour and 45 minutes was devoted to questions about his executive order allowing gays in the military. This executive order started the firestorm on the right that ended in his impeachment. He eventually compromised with the right and the result was don’t ask don’t tell as his actions to help gays was destroying his presidency. He is the ONLY president in recent history not to receive a “honeymoon” and it was because of his executive order that eventually had to be rescinded due to the firestorm from Republicans and the Christian Right (Jerry Falwell was the leader of the pack and the mainstream media fed the fire). Former Senator Sam Nunn of GA (a Democrat) was chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee and he said at the time that as long as he was chairman gays would not serve in the military. Study history.
lauraspencer
@Josh447:
Bernie Sanders didn’t care about staying relevant. He cared about doing what was right. In 1996 he voted against DOMA. Bernie has been a supporter of gay rights while the Clintons waited till it was convenient for them to support our rights.
Bob LaBlah
@bafan200: Has/did Hillary do anything?
lauraspencer
On another Hillary note she likes to position herself as being one of the people (and not establishment) and supporting the LGBT community, but if this is the case then why when she went to P-Town a couple weeks ago did she fly in and out so quickly? She showed up for a local event to raise money. To attend you had to cough up $2700 for a ticket! She didn’t go out on the lawn for 5 minutes to wave to those who couldn’t afford the ticker price. She didn’t ride in a car up Commercial Street for 15 minutes waving to the people in the town. Hillary only had time for those with money who bought a ticket.
This behavior plays as more GOP than Democrat. Hillary is happy to get our money and our votes but she doesn’t care about our issues.
SonOfKings
I think Gay porn was better before the Internet cheapened and corrupted the whole process. Porn stars used to be elusive and mysterious. Now you can’t get away from them.
Saint Law
@jason smeds: Oh my lol! Like u don’t use porn!
Glücklich
@jason smeds:
Or…some people use porn to enhance a partnered (or not) sexual experience. Do you have a wholesale objection to the use of toys? Or object to (for lack better terms) ritual or role play, such as BDSM, for those who are into it?
Give some of the non-commodified porn a look and you may be pleasantly surprised. Nica Noelle comes to mind. And a lot of vintage stuff has a semblance of plot.
BitterOldQueen
@lauraspencer: It’s easy to be idealistic when you’re an irrelevant third-party Senator from a tiny heterogenous state. It’s easy to say the US should be more like Norway when your state is a tiny little Norway. The US is a big, complex, troublesome thing, and there are no simple answers–at least not ones that will work. Bernie is lovely, but Bernie is a fantasy.
BitterOldQueen
@Dan Steele: Governing is complicated. Clinton signed DOMA because it was a compromise with majority conservative Republicans in Congress who were pushing for a Constitutional amendment defining marriage–THAT would have been catastrophic for marriage equality. It’s precisely because the federal government’s only statement defining marriage was enshrined in a statute, not the Constitution, that the Supreme Court could overturn DOMA as unconstitutional. Sometimes it’s just not possible to make change happen instantaneously, but to take small steps so that it can appear to be instantaneous a decade later. Clinton didn’t have to push for DOMA, he could have avoided controversy and let the Constitution be amended (which, at the time, it likely would have been, based on the states’ then-position).
Stefano
That was an interesting article. I know nothing about pornography and i’m suprise to read that it was so important in the US.
@Glücklich: @Bob LaBlah: You know the “actors” by their names!? wow you really love porn !
@BitterOldQueen: you are so right.
Kangol
@Bob LaBlah: Please. Don’t. Feed. The. Troll.
You are on a roll, though, with your posts today. Brilliant run through of 1970s and 1980s porn, race and racism, finances, and the blindness of not seeing the potential of breaking out of old and broken molds in terms of models.
Matthew Rush is still making porn, BTW, and has addressed the fact that he is mixed-race (black American and German).
Also, starting in the 1990s, increasing numbers of domestic and foreign porn companies popped up to produce black, asian, latino, blatino, and interracial porn. There’s still too much emphasis on the “thug” stereotype, but you do see a bit more variety today than in prior eras (save moments in 1970s and again 1980s porn).
Kangol
@lauraspencer: Hillary did sort of play the game when she ran as US Senator from New York, a role in which, as I have pointed out to people, she did absolutely zilch. (She served twice as long as Barack Obama and hardly accomplished as much as he did when he served.)
That said, I think we can be assured Hillary Clinton will not go backwards on LGBTIQ issues. She’s had Barack Obama to do the hard work for her. DOMA gone, check. DADT gone, check. Same-sex marriage approved across the US, check. The most out LGBTIQ ambassadors, federal judges, etc., check.
So now she’ll one big legislative task, to push for a federal civil rights bill for LGBTIQ people to ensure that after we marry in all 50 states and the territories we will not be subject to discriminatory laws or to the whimsies and hate of homophobes who can fire us, throw us out of apartments, or take our children (if we have them) at will.
That’s a big task, but I think she’s up to it. We’ll have to elect a Democratic Congress to ensure it is even voted up in both houses. But it’s doable. And a Democratic Congress would be good for a lot of other things too.
Let’s make it happen. Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, whomever the Democrats nominate. LGBTIQ Americans will certainly benefit.
Glücklich
@jason smeds:
@SonOfKings:
re quality porn—-I should have included any of the ca pre-2000 Cadinot films, too, if you don’t mind subtitles or can understand French.
Bob LaBlah
@Glücklich: Wow! You sure as hell do know your porn. I haven’t thought about ol” Daniel Cardinot in years. The best one I thought he made involved the guy on the beach with the HUGE toy………….remember that one? He used some WILD boys in his videos. I lost interest when he started using “raincoats”, if you get my drift. His work simply wasn’t the same.
Glücklich
@Bob LaBlah:
I had a few rounds of interviews at one of the big gay porn studios here in SF back around 2004? for a MARKETING position. In the end I think they thought I was too corporate.
Bob LaBlah
@Glücklich: Any word on what ever happen to model Tristan Paris or what he is up to these days?
Glücklich
@Bob LaBlah:
Not familiar with the name.
Bob LaBlah
@Glücklich: He was a young porn star who looked so young they had to put sideburns on him in every scene. He should be in his mid-late thirties by now. I do know he was Canadian.