What?! A new HRC-endorsed poll shows that 70% of LGBT would rather secure their gay rights than stand in solidarity with trans folk. Either we’re entirely out of step with the rest of you lot or the 500 people HRC tallied came from their database. Via The Advocate:
The poll specifically asked: “This proposal would make it illegal to fire gay, lesbian, and bisexual workers because of their sexual orientation. This proposal does not include people who are transgender. Would you favor or oppose this proposal moving forward?” Seventy percent favored moving forward with the legislation.
The poll also asked people if they agreed that “national gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender organizations should oppose this proposal because it excludes transgender people.” Only about 20% of the people agreed with that statement.
How convenient.
National Gay and Lesbian Task Force honcho Matt Foreman waved away the poll, saying that legislation should focus on rights, not “popular opinion”:
Fundamentally, rights are not about popular opinion, and that’s why we so vehemently reject voting on the right to marry. We shouldn’t just hold up our finger and test popular opinion at any one moment and say that’s the way we are going to go when we’re talking about fundamental human rights.
Too bad the majority of Human Rights Campaign’s 500 people – a minuscule part of the American population – don’t seem to understand “human rights”.
adamblast
Weren’t you yourself touting poll results earlier showing how *your side* represented the majority opinion among GLBs? How convenient of *you*.
The people who support HR 3685 care alot more about human rights than you do, asshole. Sorry to be crude, but your ignorance is matched only by your undeserved air of superiority.
marc
Legislation should be focused on winning, not losing. Looks like 80% of LGBT don’t want to go off a civil rights cliff.
marc
Oops, 70%.
zeami99
Surprise, Queerty! You don’t speak for all gays. Stop acting like you do. I suppose you think all the civil partnerships are big failures because they are not marriage? Why have ’em at all, right?
Queety’s rotten attitude toward other gay efforts is the most offensive aspect of this site. If you are not bashing William Sledd for being young and popular with some people, you are bashing HRC. Ain’t you a slayer?
Some of us gays even think marriage is BS and sexual freedom is the whole point of being gay…Give me the rights, but keep your outworn woman-bondage ritual…but I suppose that is taboo because you know better than all gays?
Grow up, and show some respect. No one is perfect, but
HRC has done more for gay rights than you.
Matt
I normally love you guys to bits, Queerty, but as adamblast suggests, you’re getting a little, well, weirdly myopic on this issue. Fact is, there’s a lot of divergent opinion on ENDA out here, and not the sort of monolithic support for a currently impossible dream that you seem to assume — of course, anyone who says otherwise is a bigot, or like HRC an enemy of the people. And the fact that you can’t seem to understand that there are two very legitimate points of view to take on ENDA is really quite sad.
As for the Matt Foreman quote I agree: plebisites to decide civil rights are wrong. That leaves legislation and judical action. But legislation requires legislators’ votes, and reasonable federal judges must be confirmed, so he’s basically incorrect that voting is irrelevant to civil rights. And if it’s possible to get a majority of legislators to support rights for a substantial part of the GLBT community, then isn’t that better than none at all? (And I can’t help but wonder, if the votes were there for a trans rights ENDA and not for gay, lesbian, and bi folks’ inclusion, would the trans community be as vocal in opposing the bill as it is now?)
And can we please, finally, stop the name-calling? Supporters of HR3685 are not bigots or opposed to human rights–the ones who are legislators are a lot farther along than most of the electorate that put them in Congress in the first place, and the ones who aren’t legislators may still be honorable human beings with social consciences and everything.
Joseph
have we really become so short sighted that we’re willing to sell out the part of the lgbt population that probably needs the protection this bill would provide the most just to advance legislation that the president will likely veto anyway? i think it’s shameful and after all the discrimination that we’ve had to put up with after all these years we should know better.
marc
You needs the votes if you needs the protection. Trans folks have not made the case to Congress that they need to have had made. Our holding back will not delay trans rights, not unless in protesting ENDA they have managed to alienate enough LGB and Democrat lawmakers. Taking us all off a cliff will do nothing to bring trans rights into being sooner.
adamblast
It is not selling *anyone* out to say that gay rights are a good thing in and of themselves, regardless of trans rights. The attempt to bring gender expression into ENDA failed due to our usual enemies: Republicans, convervative Democrats, those who believe in governing according to their religion. Not due to Barney Frank, HRC, or any of our other friends that are being hung out to dry over trying to help us.
Leland Frances
As someone who’s repeatedly expressed his hatred for HRC and not long ago thought that NGLTF’s Matt Foreman might be the leader we’ve been looking for [unlike HRC and GLAAD he won’t take money from Coors and has been arrested for civil disobedience unlike the ivory tower queens at HRC and GLAAD], it genuinely pains me to be on the same side as HRC and have, sadly, come to the conclusion that Foreman has literally lost his mind. But unlike some posters here my goal is not to hate any group or person a priori first and then glue justifications on to it.
First there was Foreman’s unnecessary and factually inaccurate attack on the Dem Presidential candidates a couple of months ago when, flawed as they are, we should be doing all we can to prevent the fascist Repugs from retaking the White House and further stacking the Supreme Court.
Then he gave a reporter a “valentine” quote about Giuliani, even after the godfather wannabe had slithered backward on gay equality. Does he WANT the Repugs to win?
Then he became one of the screeching heads of the two-headed hydra at the top of ENDA Insane. I might respect either of them more if they, unlike gays and lesbians in 30 states, didn’t work where THEY already have job protection should they ever leave their gay-for-pay jobs.
Perhaps you’ve already posted about it and I haven’t seen yet, but, in any case, this news deserves repeating here:
Genuine concern for providing those millions of gay men and women even minimal job protection that they’ve never had, again, unlike most leaders of ENDA Insane, is why the following national groups, undeterred by the character assassination bombs EI has thrown at anyone who disagrees with them, have sent a letter, along with HRC, to all members of the US House to vote FOR the best ENDA possible:
American Federation of State, County, Municipal Employees
NAACP
National Education Association
National Employment Lawyers Association
Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism
Leadership Conference on Civil Rights whose executive committee draws members ***”from a broad range of groups including the ACLU, the American Federation of Teachers, People for the American Way, NOW, and the League of Women Voters.”
Unlike you, and Foreman, and Kiesling who already enjoy legal job protections, they are not willing to “burn down the village in order to ‘save’ it.”
“The groups…noted that many civil rights advances, beginning with the Civil Rights Act of 1957, have been incremental. Solmonese said that in a recent conversation with Georgia Democratic Congressman John Lewis, a leading figure in the 1960s African-American rights struggle, the two discussed much the same topic.
The AFL-CIO also sent House members a letter taking the posture that HRC and LCCR have adopted. The International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America-UAW sent members of Congress a letter supporting ENDA, but making no mention of the gender issue.” -from ***”Gay City News” whom one would think, judging by its editor’s parroting of the ENDA Insane party line, would have long ago changed its name to “LGB&T City News.” But, just like Foreman’s National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, they can’t even be bothered to put their titles where their mouths are.
Whether or not any version of ENDA passes this week; even with a sustained Bush veto; those who value truth, common sense, civility, and the welfare of their gay brothers and sisters in 30 states can celebrate the triumph of sanity over self-righteousness.
“The difference between expediency and morality in politics is the difference between selling out a principle and making smaller concessions to win larger ones. The leader who shrinks from this task reveals not his purity but his lack of political sense.†– Bayard Rustin
Mike
Queerty, I must disagree with you on this. I’ve fought long and hard in support of GLBT rights, and I will continue to do so. The reality about ENDA, however, is that it has no chance of passage if transgender rights are includled within it. I wish it had a chance, but it doesn’t. I’m as willing to lean against windmills as the next guy, but not if it comes at the cost of a very real opportunity to expand the rights of a large chunk of our community!
Let’s work on passing ENDA, which, while not perfect, is a vast improvement over what we currently have. Once that’s done, let’s continue the work of establishing the rights of our transgendered brothers and sisters as well. Passage of ENDA today will make it easier to pass a trans-inclusive version in the future!!! Instead of demanding an ‘all-or-nothing’ approach that is lose-lose to us all, let’s work towards a bill that, while win-lose for now, can lead to a win-win bill in the future.
J. Smith
This in-fighting is exactly what the Republicans need to keep rights away from all of us.
Lashing out at our allies or middle-of-the-road advocates for recognizing a reality and stategically trying to protect part of us (a vast majority of us, I might add) is self-defeating. It is not HRC’s fault that the votes for a trans-inclusive bill are not there.
I’m sorry, but I want my boyfriend to be protected at his job ASAP and not sit on our high horse for 10 more years until an inclusive bill has a chance of passing.
In the same vein, I want marriage but rejecting civil unions until then is short-sighted and ignores the reality of a majority of our community who are in danger right now.
The answer is to grab what we can now and then keep educating and keep fighting.
Bill Perdue
The supporters of the sellout Democratic version of ENDA are having a field day gloating and smirking. Which is of no import. They’ve long ago isolated themselves and the movement will go on without them. Their toothless bill will not protect any of us. It’s an anti-GLBT bill and it will only benefit the bosses who discriminate against us.
The ‘civility’ of using gaybashing terms like ‘mad tranny disease’ and defending the murderers of Gwen Araujo with the discredited and dishonest ‘gay rage/gay panic’ defense are all we need to identify our enemies, who are not just Republicans and Democrats but their apologists and agents.
marc
Bill Perdue is in the 30% which is marginalized and is lashing out at anyone who challenges his/her delusions. ENDA will protect tens of millions of lesbians and gays in states w/o protections from being fired for how we have sex or how they think we have sex or who we share our lives with.
Yes, we are all bigots for reading the political writing on the wall, and yes, I am a transphobe for celebrating the fact that Arajuo’s murderers are going to rot in jail only on murder 2 convictions.
Here’s how it works: Matthew Shepherd was murdered for being gay, enticed into a car and brutally beaten and left to die. Gwen Araujo was murdered because the people to whom she misrepresented her gender prior to having sex with them freaked and killed her once they discovered she had a penis.
One is premeditated murder, one is not. Those are two differently natured circumstances, both are wrong and both are crimes.
I guess that trans folks get special dispensation to do whatever they want to do, not caring about how anyone else feels about it, whether it is selfishly scuttling civil rights for tens of millions or giving a young trans woman complete and total license for having nonconsensual sex with teenage boys and misrepresenting her sex.
Yeah, that’s really smart and really values the humanity and autonomous chocies of her sexual partners to choose their own sexuality and have that honored.
Good luck pursuing your civil rights with the left and the rest of us who you’ve not managed to completely alienate in your selfish pursuit of utter and complete political correctness.
Leland Frances
“of no import…isolated”? Quick, someone check Comrade Perdue’s nasal passage for blockage. He still isn’t smelling the coffee; or should I say, “Stick a fork in yourself—your done.
MEMO TO COMRADE BILL:
Here are some of the “no import/isolated” groups that support ENDA common sense and will go on without YOU.
The American Federation of State, County, Municipal Employees
The NAACP
National Education Association
National Employment Lawyers Association
Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism
Leadership Conference on Civil Rights including members of the ACLU, the American Federation of Teachers, People for the American Way, NOW, and the League of Women Voters.
The AFL-CIO and the International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America-UAW.
And, even to my dismay but for other reasons, HRC.
Perhaps your first clue should have been the barely 100 protesters outside HRC’s dinner of 3000. I hate those circle jerks but it was as good a barometer as anything of where the majority of the community was and is versus what ENDA Insane CONTINUES to claim. They’re stewing in their own soup made from laughing stock.
MEMO TO “GAY City News” and the “National GAY & LESBIAN Task Force:
Maybe you’ll be wanting now to finally add TRANSGENDER to YOUR titles before preaching to the rest of us about “integrity” and “solidarity.”
In the last month, your gaseous eruptions have only proven that solidarity in your case means impacted bowels.
Bill Perdue
Not surprisingly the groups mentioned by Frances are not GLBT groups. I’m glad they think they’re supporting ENDA but they’re not doing us any favors supporting the bogus Democrat version and some no doubt don’t have a clue about the extent of the Democrats treachery.
When they do know the story their support is grudging, like the National Employment Lawyers Association, whose President says “…NELA is disappointed and dismayed that it is H.R. 3685, which does not ban discrimination on the basis of gender identity, rather than the original, transgender-inclusive version of ENDA (H.R. 2015) that is going forward in the House. Transgender and gender non-conforming people face discrimination, harassment, abuse, marginalization – even persecution – in the workplace on a daily basis”.
To our credit the vast majority of GLBT groups and activists are against it, rejecting the betrayal of the bill and of transgendered people.
The time when the differences between Republicans and Democrats can be measured in nanoliters is long past. People, with the exception of agents and apologists for the Democrats and Republicans are ready to say enough is enough. The spin doctors and shills can’t change that one iota.
The ENDA treachery is leading people to believe that the DOMA and DADT, the appointment of gay bashing judges and support for a gaybashing Attorney General, etc. aren’t anomalies – they’re the rule.
All we have to do is keep an open mind and the Democrats and Republicans will make up our minds for us.
SeaFlood
Bill,
ENDA would not have protected Gwen. ENDA stands for “employment non-discrimination act”.
***
Also, based on a quote someone posted by Bayard Rustin (posted by Leland Francis), I think I have changed my mind. GBL has to PROMISE to agitate to bring this to T, but politics is not feel-good. It’s icky. And this is icky. TOTAL ick. But there are really people who don’t want ENDA for ANY of us. They shouldn’t be allowed to get their way.
… and with every sentence, bile is rising in my throat. I will close with:
“The difference between expediency and morality in politics is the difference between selling out a principle and making smaller concessions to win larger ones. The leader who shrinks from this task reveals not his purity but his lack of political sense.†– Bayard Rustin
Eminent Victorian
I am, frankly, saddened and surprised by so many gay people who seem entirely willing to throw our Trans brothers and sisters under under the bus. Who was out there fighting for you smug fuckers at Stonewall?
G-Man
If nothing else, I think the ENDA catfight has illuminated a key aspect of the GLBT community – we don’t all think the same way or place the same priority on all issues. It has also shown the tendency of sef-appointed “leaders” and spokespeople of the community to lable as heresy, any opinion that diverges from their definition of gay othodoxy. In this case even when 70% of the community don’t agree with them. Iluminating, no?
Leland Frances
“Who was out there fighting for you smug fuckers at Stonewall?”
Far fewer Ts than you think, dumb fucker. Try reading some history books. And while you’re at it, dump the cliche “under the bus.” Not only is it TIRED it doesn’t apply here. No one threw the Ts under the bus, you ‘tard.
And how convenient and CRETINOUS for Comrade Perdue to declare that there are no LGBTs in the various groups I listed. There’s no reason to believe we are represented among those groups any less than the general population. Even HE’S not that stupid. And he knows that some of the much-touted, much-exaggerated “membership” of ENDA United that he would brag about are not exclusively LGBT groups, e.g., the ACLU. It’s simply another variation of his “whoever disagrees with me—L, G, B or T, black, white, green, old, young, rich, poor, whatever nationality, religion, blah blah blah—is WRONG WRONG WRONG.”
His hero Karl Marx could rise from the dead and say, “Comrade Bill, we must support this. It is the right thing” and Perdue would shit another brick. He has enough now to build his bomb er brain shelter that will help protected him from the truth that the adults had enough of the child bullies commandering the playground and finally stepped it. He will cover his ears, close his eyes, twirl his pinpointed head back and forth and screech “NO NO NO NO NO NO NOT GONNA LISTEN NOT GONNA LISTEN NOT GONNA”
He’ll even keep posting his virtual Tourette’s seizures here and everywhere. But it won’t change the truth. Petulant children like to believe that someone betrayed them, fixed the game they didn’t win, cheated them—anything but their own responsibility. ENDA Insane didn’t have the votes and that’s no one’s fault but theirs.
marc
LGB spent the time since Stonewall organizing for ENDA. Trans folks did not. That is why ENDA is ripe for LGB but not for T. T made the mistake of relying on the HRC to carry water for them.
BillPerdue, a.k.a. RedRainbow is but another communist, dispensable not for his desire for social and economic justice, but for his vanguard detachment from reality. The communist lives and acts so that when s/he dies, in the great book of leftism in the sky, s/he is recorded as having had taken the most left, most radical position at each and every decision point in their lives.
Over on Pam’s House Blend, they say they’re an online magazine for the reality based community. Unfortunately, the decision to add T to ENDA was not made in the reality based community. It arose in a circle jerk, cluster fuck of leaders of very small advocacy groups that have no grassroots legitimacy, are only grant funded operations.
We need grassroots, democratic groups to replace these top-heavy operators who tend to run in the same circles and tell each other how great they are.
Trans folks didn’t know that an ENDA bus was coming until a few years ago. While LGBT were waiting at the bus stop for years, rising bus fare in hand, trans folks were still at home asleep in bed. As the bus is coming, the first in 13 years, the trans folks come to the window and say, wait for me, I’ve got to shower, get dressed and gather up change for bus fare, I might not have enough. There don’t appear to be any busses coming after this one, and its starting to rain.
What to do, what to do?
marc
Oops, meant LGB in last ‘graf. And for trans folks who stepped up to the plate and confronted the mafia and nypd, what’s with this fixation on victimhood and disempowerment?
Eminent Victorian
I’ve read books, thanks. I will, though, apologize for the “smug fuckers” remark, as it was out of line (for me anyway), although it was honestly the only phrase that kept popping up in my head as I read so many of these responses. I’ve seen this topic ignite similar fury just about everywhere it’s popped up, and I really am dismayed to find myself on what appears to be the wrong or “wrong” side of this debate. I just don’t personally feel it’s morally just for me as a tax-paying minority citizen of this country to feel okay with an ENDA that leaves out any sort of trans folks. I don’t feel any sort of moral superiority about this, but I can’t deny that seing so many gays, lesbians, and bisexuals so evidently virulently opposed to including trans people in something lke ENDA makes me sad and, honestly, confused. I haven’t met all trans people, but some of you are posting as though you have, and those of you who have done so really seem to have some deep-seated anger and resentment toward trans people. I don’t care whether or not “they” have or have not been doing enough for themselves or whatever. I don’t feel like trans people have been riding gay & lesbian coat tails, but maybe I’m not watching the right lazy trans people(?). I grew up around trans people who were nothing but kind and loving to me, and while I also know that the trans people around whom I grew up don’t represent The Whole any more than I represent Gay Men, it’s also difficult for me to understand this enmity so many gay people seem to harbor toward trans people.
marc
We are virulently opposed to running ENDA off the cliff if there is support for LGB but not for T. That is not the same thing as being opposed to including T in ENDA. If there were support in the Congress for T, we’d all be singing kumbiya.
It is not up to LGB to make the case to Congress about why T need ENDA. T need to do that because only T can speak for T. If T can organize in a flash to almost scuttle ENDA for LGB, then you have the capacity to organize to humanize the T work experience before Congress.
Please do not mistake a strategic decision to move forward on viable legislation with hating those who would have been protected by an expanded bill which had not yet ripened legislatively. That is wrong and it is destructive because it imputes motives without basis.
matt123
70%? So much high percentage.
Gay on FindBilover.com
thegayrecluse
HRC is for cowards. The name says it all.
http://thegayrecluse.com/2007/10/11/on-the-human-rights-campaign-and-national-coming-out-day/
Leland Frances
I wish to make clear before someone [guess who] lumps me in with those who “devalue” transgenders. That is not my position. I have tried to make a distinction in all of my comments about the difference between my animosity for those few who have approached this issue and anyone who dares disagree with them like Mongol hordes and my empathy with Ts generally.
In much the same way one doesn’t have to be Black to care about Black civil rights or a woman to care about theirs, I believe that gay men and women and those rare individuals who are genuinely bisexual are ultimately discriminated against for the very same reason that transgenders are—we go against the sexist definitions of what is “right” or “normal.”
But the premise behind trans extremists in this debacle has been broken from the start: “Gays give up [in this case] what you might get for something we definitely will not [in this case].” Add to that all of the unnecessary demonization of those who disagree simply BECAUSE they disagree and the result is more enemies than allies. One day Barney Frank was a gay hero and the next day he was, to them, suddenly Evil Incarnate. The man is faaarrrrrr from perfect. I’m flamed him on the Net for other things, but I never started looking for a tree to lynch him.
There’s progress to be worked on together.
Kat
i love queerty, but i must say you are out of step with the whole HRC issue. I’ve been following your articles regarding HRC all along, and I must say you treat it with such an arrogant attitude, as if HRC itself is doing nothing for the advancement of GLBT people. They’ve done more than queerty has, I must say, and I don’t believe it is right of you guys to belittle the organization as you do.
so, i must say, have a little respect from now on. it would be grealty appreciated.
David Hauslaib, Queerty
@Kat: It’s a good thing Queerty is not an advocacy blog, then, isn’t it?
We make opinionated claims, sure, but we certainly don’t pretend to represent the entire GLBT community. HRC, in effect, does — and who else is going to call them out on their faults? Certainly not CNN or the Times.
Rt. Rev. Dr. RES
I firmly believe that if we would have had an organisation like HRC working for our rights – be it our Hates Crime bill or our Equal Marriage Act – and have DINO/DLC and RINO supporters willing to divide the minority and provide a loss even with a sure veto from Bush and a maybe loss in the pseudo-Dem majority Senate, then Canada would have stalled at civil unions federally forever.
This bill, if you have read it, accomplishes two goals of the DLC. It protects nothing significant and it divides the populations within the despised minority.
The solution is to regroup – remember that you rise or fall together as an LGBT family – or you will allow centrists to poll and pragmatise and compromise your equal rights to institutionalised second-class citizenship for generations to come.
Incrementalism usually takes generations. It reminds me of spending trillions and sending the bill to your children and grandchildren and their grandchildren. Incrementalism is the way that the US has always marginalised minorities.
Get out of the cocktail and circuit parties. Stop the after-hours meets with corporate lobbyists and bought solons. Get into the streets and show the American majority that your rights are worth more than anything on earth and that you love your country enough to stay and fight rather than cross the highway into Canada and become a free man or woman overnight.
Rt. Rev. Dr. RES
Kudos to Queerty for their stand. Kudos to Bill Perdue. Admonitions to those who will allow a symbolic bill with sure veto in one chamber to divide and conquer your community. You might get what you want.
I, for one, feel the oppression the minute that we cross over to spend time in MA at our home there and visit my in-laws in Plymouth MA. I also feel vulnerable since my marriage is not recognised as we cross over into your country. We are legal strangers until we obtain some state recognition when we arrive in MA….which is the West Berlin within the East German state.
If you are a gay and lesbian family living in MS or AL or anywhere in the Red States or in red areas of the Blue States, can you just imagine the oppression? If you are a transgendered person anywhere trying to be real and live an honest life, where can you go? Shame on you for letting “friends and foe alike” divide you like that for political expediency? Barney Frank, shame on you for so many reasons !!! Kudos to our real gay congresswoman from MI. She is a real activist.
One day, I pray that you visit one of the five countries on earth where marriage equality is legal. You should feel how it feels to be really free and protected !! You should feel how it feels to be protected by the law, rather than oppressed by it. Yes, you should know one day of complete equality in your life ONE DAY before you die.
flightoftheseabird
Baldwin is from WI not MI. MI should be so fortunate.
Leigha Cohen
Perhaps we should take some time to read Lambda legal opinion of the marginalized ENDA bill since if was to be enacted it would fall upon groups like them and ACLU to litigate this in the court.
I personally believe that present ENDA legislation is extremely flawed in that if enacted it can open up discrimination of to the LBGTIQ not because our sexual orientation but rather our queerness and gender identity and gender expression. I believe Lambda legal concurs with this assessment but I would encourage those interested to read their article on the ENDA Situation: http://data.lambdalegal.org/pdf/enda_llanalysis_20071016.pdf �Part of their text� Finally It leaves for some of us who carry the T definition or label (personally I am “LTIQ” being more visibly separated from our community, vulnerable to discrimination at our work and that feeling of being in the far back seats of our community bus.
Excert from Lambda legal:
As many people are beginning to become aware, the version of ENDA that was introduced in April of this year expressly includes a provision that would protect against employment discrimination based on �gender identity.� �Gender identity,� in turn, is defined in that bill as including �gender-related identity, appearance, or mannerisms or other gender-related characteristics of an individual.� 4 In other words, the version of
ENDA originally introduced this year explicitly would cover not just discrimination based on actual or perceived sexual orientation, but also discrimination against both those who identify as transgender and those who appear, act or have other characteristics that are perceived as not conforming to sexual stereotypes. This earlier version of ENDA is intended to go beyond requiring employers not to treat lesbian, gay and bisexual employees differently from others based on their sexual orientation, but also to require employers not to discriminate against transgender employees or employees who differ from others because of their actual or perceived appearance, mannerisms or gender related characteristics.
Nigel S-S
Leigha, your evaluation is right on ! (pun intended) and this is what my husband and I have been saying in all the ENDA threads this week.
The Frank legislation was an attempt to dilute the language and the protections inherent in the rhetoric surrounding ENDA. Barney Frank is a man who opposes Marriage Equality, as my husband said, for both himself and for all MA. He wants federalized civil unionizations throughout the USA.
He and his sister are both DLC Democrats in Name Only.
lyssa
Yes, you should know one day of complete equality in your life ONE DAY before you die
Sadly, for us T folk, that may not happen.
We have to fight straight AND LGB bigots. Like the ones who call us “tard”
Leigha nailed it, I think.
Nigel, Frank’s problems go MUCH deeper.
Leland is a Fundie sockpuppet. He used to make me mad. Now he makes me laugh…