Obviously, the vast majority of gays are loyal Americans — and witty and stylish to boot! But a small percentage of gays are going to be narcissistic hothouse flowers like Bradley Manning. Couldn’t they just work for JetBlue? America would be a lot safer right now if gays in an “awkward place” psychologically could do no more damage than grabbing a couple of beers and sliding down the emergency chute. Look at the disaster one gay created under our punishing “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. What else awaits America with the overturning of a policy that was probably put there for a reason (apart from being the only thing Bill Clinton ever did that I agreed with)?
—The always adorable Ann Coulter, once again speaking out of turn [via]
JusticeontheRocks
Why does anyone pay attention to this shrill, illogical, and quite unattractive whatever it is? One look at Coulter is enough to turn any straight guy gay.
Mr. Enemabag Jones
I wonder what Christopher Barron thinks about this.
shannon
So, If Ann thinks that Manning should be the jumping point for discussions against DADT, does that mean we can use Charles Graner as ours?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Graner#Allegations
Queer Supremacist
I daresay, this Coulter chap has quite the problem with the homophile population. Rather like that Obama fellow.
evanjf91
what silly girl doesn’t realize is that bill clinton eventually claimed his own policy, that is dadt, unnecessary.
Dan
OMG, not this stinky cunt again please. Stop feeding her attention!
McMike
Why isn’t anyone pointing out all men with blonde hair, or all men with blue eyes, or all white men or just all men? Maybe Manning was someone who was seeing an injustice done by our countries lying over and over again to their citizens and wanted to expose them? As far as I can tell Manning didn’t do a whole lot more than make many, many political leaders look like the lying scum they are. I mean it’s not as if he released the name of a secret service member thus endangering her life. What I’d like to know is where was the outcry of “TREASON” Bush and his buddies released Libby’s name?
The more I see this witch hunt happening for Manning, the more I’m wondering why people aren’t asking WTF is going on with the information that’s actually being released.
Cassandra
Good point, Shannon. And there’s more to be done with Coulter’s chain of thought.
“Lynndie Rana England (born November 8, 1982) is a former United States Army reservist who served in the 372nd Military Police Company. She was one of eleven military personnel convicted in 2005 by Army courts-martial in connection with the torture and prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad during the occupation of Iraq.[1] The others to face prosecution along with England were Staff Sergeant Ivan Frederick, Specialist Charles Graner, Sergeant Javal Davis, Specialist Megan Ambuhl, Specialist Sabrina Harman, Specialist Armin Cruz and Private Jeremy Sivits.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynndie_England
Lynndie discredits Ann Coulter. After all, Lynndie was given some modicum of authority, and Ann presents herself as an authority, we need to quickly put Ann in a kitchen, shoeless and preggers, less she embroil this country in yet another scandal.
Again?
Oh this hateful cunt. I mean, I just can’t with her.
Kev C
But everyone wants to know why DynCorp is hiring Afghan dancing boys.
tjr101
Where is this cunt’s GOProud fans to defend her statements when we need them?
TripleB
She’s correct. And does say it in a hilarious way. That’s why her books all zip to the top of the NY Times bestseller list.
Tallskin
She looks increasingly like a horse with a blond wig.
Age will not be kind to her.
jason
I think Ann must time her writings to when her pre-menstrual cramps set in.
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
@TripleB: Yeah Mann Cuntler is wonderful and it was also so very fucking hilarious when she called 9/11 grieving widows “a bunch of greedy harpies”………..
Tens of Thousands of Gay soldiers have served with honor and courage. Manning is a sick little fuck who deserves the most severe punishment available to him. Same as a straight solider who has become a traitor. And guess what jerky? There have been thousands of straight soldiers who have become traitors also………
Cam
So then can we point out all the rapes of young girls in Japan and Germany committed by hetrosexual soldiers and what they have done to our relations with those contries as an argument?
Additionally, I would like it if Ann could point out exactly what the specific damage done by Wiki Leaks was. I haven’t heard of any troop movement docs etc… being spilled, what I heard of was a bunch of cables that make our diplomats sound like bitchy school girls, and some information about the Govt. of Afghanistan being incredibly corrupt.
DR
I read the whole piece.
For starters, there was very little to surprise me when she broke out the same boring old stereotypes about drag, music, and showtunes as “telling” under DADT. *yawn*
As to the substance of her op-ed piece. There have been almost 14,000 discharges since DADT was implemented. To suggest that those 14,000 were all potential spies or potential spies is nothing short of an total insult.
We know that some of the folks discharged have made some poor decisions which led to their discovery. But bad decisions =/= potential spy. And what about the others? A majority were discharged for doing the same thing everyone else did… fall in love/lust/develop friendships/be open about the person they are. That’s wrong, why?
peteNsfo
Let’s be clear, I DO NOT like this woman… at all.
Don’t diminish the message of this site, or our ability to share links with others by including language like C*nts, etc.
Just in case you missed it, many, many women, gay women included (also visiting Qrty) find this word offensive. Buy a thesaurus, could ya?!
samthor
…she does kind of bring out the misogyny around here, don’t she?
PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS
@peteNsfo: I do agree with you to a certain point. One could call some of the verbage in my posts as “colorfull” :p. I do try and temper my remarks, yet certain vermin truly deserve the most vile verbage that can be mustered at them scumbags like Peter Labarbra, Alan Chambers, et all. Mann Cunter certainly falls into that territory. She has no hesitation to lob hatefull, hurtfull bombs towards us. We should have no problem hitting her right back in her nutsack………
Jaroslaw
#17 Pete – I get what you’re saying up to a point. But if a man can be a dried up “di*k” or whatever does that offend all men? It wouldn’t bother me because I’m not that person. (Dr would probably disagree – See Bondage film ends career!) 🙂
cccole
First of all, cunt is too fabulous to be associated with people like Coulter.
If you are angry with a woman for her words and ideas, criticize her words and ideas. Do not criticize her looks or how her voice sounds. Do not reveal yourself as a misogynist by making cracks about PMS, calling her a man (which reveals your transphobia and lesbophobia too) OR calling her a girl who speaks out of turn. She is an adult who should be judged for her actions and intentions ONLY.
This isn’t about whether she is right. Sexism, homophobia and transphobia are BFFs on the playground, and they team up to beat the shit out of all of us. Quit participating in Coulter’s game.
Anthony
Manning is NOT gay. He is a straight- identified
tranny. The only reason that bigots like Coulter
are able to smear gay people with the crimes of
trannies is because we have told the world that
there is some kind of hybrid species called LGBT,
sort of like a BearWolf or a DogCat. Fictitious nonsense.
We already lost ENDA this year and it is probably out
of reach for years to come – all because we were forced
by “LGBT” logic to give top priority to the burning
question of where trannies go poopy. If we lose repeal
of DADT because gay soldiers are tarred by the actions
of a tranny, then we can honestly say that LGBT will
have been the most damaging phenomenon to gay equality
since the Moral Majority.
Soupy
A great clip from the CBC of Coulter getting owned:
http://tinyurl.com/2rltst
cccole
Anthony, how do you expect anyone to treat you like a human being, to show you basic respect and empathy, if you do not do treat others this way? You cannot understand homophobia without sexism. Gender and sexuality are related, and laws prohibiting gender expression protect ALL of us. Why do you think people sexual minorities? Because we fuck with the dominant gender paradigm. Look at what the Moral Majority said about us. We don’t follow traditional gender roles. We fuck with the nuclear family which is based on those gender roles, and with the proper relationship between men and women, which is based on reproduction. No, being gay is not the same as being transgender, but you can’t act like gender issues shouldn’t matter to the gay community. They matter tremendously.
Don’t you see how our fates and causes are wrapped up in each other? This is why it makes sense to group the sexual & gender minorities together. I think we’re natural allies and those of us with cisgender privilege in this group must use it for good. Transgender people are more likely to be murdered for who they are than any other minority group. 50% of trans teens are suicidal. Their difference is visible, whereas it is possible to hide ours’.
I am fine with waiting for ENDA to pass until lawmakers can get the fuck over their transphobia. This group NEEDS us, and you know what? We need THEM. Who do you think rocked Stonewall? The people you shamelessly call ‘trannies.’ They have been here the entire time, keeping at least some of the movement from morphing into this Hollywood-friendly ‘fight’ for rich white gay men’s needs. Pay them some respect.
TomMc
Ann makes Snooki sound like Habermas.
Jon
cunt.
UhHuh
Obviously the vast majority of gays are loyal Americans..” Glad she said that. Because it might temper the people who are already saying this leaks case proves gays don’t belong in the military. And it’ll be worse if the leaks cause any major death or destruction.
peteNsfo
Thanks for the consideration re: dropping the C-word ’round here.
To be clear, it’s not that Coulter doesn’t deserve derision, it’s that WE don’t need to stoop to her level. The race becomes a game of ‘how low can you go.’ Just because they’re willing to go there, doesn’t mean that we should.
The women in my life, don’t like the word, so I don’t use it.
Anthony
@cccole:
Gays and lesbians do not fuck with any gender paradigm or the nuclear family. Although a gay man or a lesbian can choose for political reasons to oppose the nuclear family, there is nothing inherent in being gay that brings us into conflict. Certain prejudiced elements in society may have written us out of those paradigms and excluded us from the nuclear family. But that is what we are in the process of correcting.
You want us to think that we are, by virtue of being gay, at war with our own genders and with the family because you are at war, and you want us to come along for the pointless ride. For 15 years, we have done so, and this year we saw some of the damage. We don’t want to fight your endless wars.
You say:
“They have been here the entire time, keeping at least some of the movement from morphing into this Hollywood-friendly ‘fight’ for rich white gay men’s needs.”
– Pretty ironic that statement considering that the “queer” activists who gave us the nutty concept of LGBT in the mid 1990s were overwhelmingly white, male, urban professionals. You don’t often hear homeless African American or Latino gay youth drop gibberish like LGBTQIAP or speak passionately about deprivileging the reigning gender paradigm. This nonsense comes from pampered white “queer” activists, usually safely ensconced in some academic or non-profit position. That it is foisted on all of us and used to dictate our priorities is nothing more than racist hegemony. LGBT = Racism
cccole
Technically the nuclear family is defined as a married man and woman and two children. Anyway, I don’t think there’s anything about being gay that means you can’t or shouldn’t get married and have children and live like most other normative heterosexual couples. People should be able to do that. But that is not everyone’s goal and they shouldn’t be punished for not fitting into YOUR idea of what gays want.
I find it interesting that you mention homeless black and latino youths. My whole notion of queer activism is that we take everyone’s needs into account, including the most vulnerable. I would define children of color living on the street as among the most vulnerable. They are why I am a ‘queer’ activist: because I believe that just passing a few pieces of federal legislation (while terribly important) is not enough to end the oppression of Queer people because in order to do that, you have to end poverty, racism, sexism and, yes, transphobia too. Do you know how many transgender kids are living on the street? Do you think they are treated better or worse than their more gender normative counterparts? Do you think they need Queer or feminist theory classes to understand how the current gender paradigm hurts them?
Would you build a shelter for gay kids but leave out transgender kids because they are delaying your movement?
CJ Maciejeski
Jeepers creepers! Bigots in progressive clothing really leave a vulgar taste in one’s mouth.
caffesilvia
I know the whole obscenely bad arguments thing is really just an entertainment gig for this chick. But still, she did go to Yale. Do you ever wonder if it’s a bit painful for her to make such statements of “logic” in public?
Lefty
@UhHuh: So we should be thankful to a homophobic right-wing nutter for reassuring the bigots who might otherwise jump to the hysterically irrational conclusion that because Bradley Manning is gay we’re all going to do what he did?
Sadly there aren’t many people – gay or otherwise – that would do something as brave as what Bradley Manning did.
It’s a shame there are one or two gay people who feel they need to make a show of attacking him in order to appease those irrational bigots.
Can’t jeapordise our acceptance, eh?
http://www.bradleymanning.org/