It’s true: Gays are a bunch of stereotypes! Sure, some of us fit in multiple categories, but at our core we’re just a bunch of circuit boys, gym bunnies, twinks, and bears. But according to Brian Moylan’s excellent summation, we’re also all … bottoms. Which poses a serious problem.
sal(the original)
WHERE ARE THE TOPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!??!!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHHHHH
Jack
Am I seriously the only guy equally happy in either role?!
3dollarbill
Are most guys bottoms…?
If so, then I’m glad to be a top.
Todd
@Jack – nope, vers here too.
I think the concept of everyone being a bottom draws on the negative sterotype of being a bottom in the first place. What the heck is wrong with it? I mean, can you imagine our world if there were NO bottoms (or vers guys)? Booooring!
I pliss
NYC is full of bottoms easy pickings for me! hahahahaha
That Bitch Tea Delgado
I’m vers, too. And most of the guys I’ve met and know are vers.
Fitz
I don’t get how you couldn’t be both. I LOVE fucking. I LOVE getting fucked. But, I will say— there are some pairings where I would only want to bottom or top. It’s hard to bottom for a little hairless nelly, and it’s hard to feel confident topping a big 6’6 muscle man.
Lukas P.
Um, not all forms of man-on-man sex involve a “top” or a “bottom.” [I have learned from hard-won experience NOT to comment on Lesbian sex using those terms —and the heteros often think we’re talking “in code” this way!] To give is to receive, or something like that.
Can’t we be both in the course of a good day/morning/afternoon/evening/night of sex? Sure, it depends on the guy, the situation, the mood, but in my “limited” experience — there *are* more self-identified ‘bottoms’ than ‘tops.’ That has typically worked in my favor when I was single, but at the Casa De Lukas, it’s an equation that usually gets resolved on an episode by episode basis. I’m doing research all day tomorrow, so I’ll see if my theory still works.
mikeandrewsdantescove
So that’s definitely not entirely true. I get to top 70% of the time here in San Francisco.
JJ
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Tonytime
Hmmm. I don’t fit into any of those categories so maybe that’s why I’m a top.
Also, experience has shown me that twinks do not tend to be as ripped as the guy you have in the twink photo.
dontblamemeivotedforhillary
Queerty’s salacious use of the Dichotomy of Top/Bottom is so High School.
Some Facts (and one conjecture):
New York has the most Tops of any U.S City (Houston is Bottoms)
http://www.queerty.com/move-to-new-york-city-if-you-throw-your-legs-in-the-air-like-you-just-dont-care-20090528/
(It could well be argued that DC is also Top!)
Bottoms are more likely to be Out because they just can’t Top
(many Tops are also on the Down Low and/or Successful Executives)
Tops can get HIV virus from unprotected sex, also
(Look at where the Tops live coupled with the HIV/AIDS rate)
Tops probably number bottoms in the ratio of 3:1 to 10:1 depending on where you live, and your hormonal/testosterone balance (Sorry San Francisco)
The French have the biggest dicks if you don’t count Uganda/Sudan! America rates well, too! Brits, eh…
(So much for the Germans!)
Most gay men are in fact: Versatile!
(Lying has been around forever!)
A man’s reproductive sexual peak is 19!
(Might account for very young and very old bottoms)
Gay men have bigger dicks than straight men.
(An actual survey finding from France)
Porn stars look like they have huge dicks because they are often under 5’3″ and on steroids for their HIV condition and/or workout
(Unless you are unlucky enough to rent a Chi Chi LaRue movie)
Many gay men, upon finding out they’re HIV positive, claim to be raped by the dominant partner (or a gang!) when in fact they were sluts who used unprotected sex over a long period of time
Love-making versus anonymous sex makes a dick harder and ejaculation more often (Great case for Gay Marriage!)
Over your lifetime, your Penis will shrink 20% in size!!!
(Not just in AOL inches!)
Anyone can Google, even Queerty (although most of their information comes from the Advocate!)
eric
jesus people. it was a running joke not a scientific study or an affront to your top-ness. buncha bottoms…
dontblamemeivotedforhillary
Eric reminds me of the person who runs into a store and screams “Why, prey tell, why are there no straws in the holder. Whhhhy?” Breaks down, exits stage left.
PJR
Dontblameme, you’re an idiot. HIV positive = sluts? Also, never met anyone who was poz who claimed they were gang-raped. Just because you can google doesn’t mean you’re smart enough to not believe everything you read (or that falls into your limited world view).
dontblamemeivotedforhillary
I’ve heard more accounts than you. It should be noted by the American Psychiatric Institute that fictionalizing rape as an account of infection is acted out of shame in many as it is an initial response to HIV infection noted as a phenomenon followed by a stage of transformative embrace and then acceptance. You actually have to know medical professionals and read journals rather than flick through the pages of Poz magazine at the Doctor’s office. Promiscuity has proven to be the leading factor of infection followed by not using condoms. I can’t help the fact that you don’t get out much in this Big Wide World but I’m here for you!
*J_C*
i dont know sometimes i want to fuck an ass hard and sometimes i want to get fucked hard and sometimes im tired and i want to get off so i bottom lol sometimes im lazy lol thats horrible
*J_C*
oh and sometimes i meet a guy i just want to get on my knees for and only for him
Flex
A man who claims to be a bottom has not learned how to enjoy the pleasures of fucking. Every man likes to fuck! Grow up bottoms!
Dionte
The straight men are the tops.
I pliss
@Dionte: All the straight men I messed around with all wanted to get fucked! I’m fucking a hockey player right now. straight and has a girl but love getting fucked by me! lol
McShane
No. 7 · Fitz You’re prety much right ; If you tend to be 6′ , strong and cntroling, you’re liable to get picked as a top, since less obstreperous, more accomodating men will bottom vis-a-vis that. likewise, if you’re 6′ tall and confronted with a 6’6” guy whose equally powerfull the bigger guy is usually harder to throw around and liable to top.
Appart from stature, I think that mentality defines the roles people take in a given situation (which can vary from time to time). The guy who is strongest and most controllinfg will usually top. The bottom is more nurturant and accomodating, willing to be controlled. Most of us can and will take one role or the other, but it all depends on who we’re partnering with.
I’ve heard it before, and think it interesting that “straight , married guys like being fucked.
benlayvey
I LOVE FUCKING!! Who needs a dick if you can have an ass! Sorry, have a constitutional objection to being penetrated by anyone. I can do without a man’s dick, in fact cut it and I’ll be happy with the rest though most gays I know are versatile. They think me a closet hetero.
edgyguy1426
how can you look at that ass and not want to top it aie aie aie!!!
Mike in Asheville, nee "in Brooklyn"
@No. 13 PJR regarding @No. 10 Dontblamemeivotedforhillary
PJR, you nailed it; Dontblame, you are an idiot!
Idiocy #1: New York has the most Tops of any U.S City (Houston is Bottoms)
http://www.queerty.com/move-to…..-20090528/
(It could well be argued that DC is also Top!)
Hmmm, so the medical journals are now using postings on Craigslist to determine the rate of tops : bottoms? Well, based on the type of accuracy, then most gay men are also: 6’2″, 185 pounds of solid muscle, 10-20 years younger for their successes in life, have 9″ beer can thick cocks, are multi-orgasm, have no/want no drama, yada yada yada.
Idiocy #2: Bottoms are more likely to be Out because they just can’t Top
(many Tops are also on the Down Low and/or Successful Executives)
Lets see, yeah real idiocy here. Ummm, just because a guy prefers to bottom does not mean he cannot top; tops are “down low” yet you yourself call HIV+ bottoms sluts; if a top is not “down low” then the alternative is “successful executives? So there are no gay top men who are: waiters? policemen? firemen? construction workers? teachers? dancers? cowboys? …?
Idiocy #3: Tops can get HIV virus from unprotected sex, also
(Look at where the Tops live coupled with the HIV/AIDS rate)
DUH, idiot. Tops can also get HIV from dirty needles, so what the fuck is this point about?
Idiocy #4: Tops probably number bottoms in the ratio of 3:1 to 10:1 depending on where you live, and your hormonal/testosterone balance (Sorry San Francisco)
Dolt, you posted the Queery post about the Craigslist survey of top/bottom ratios. So, where are the 10:1 tops/bottoms? Not on that survey. Oh, wait, you read medical journals, so where is your citation?
Idiocy #5: The French have the biggest dicks if you don’t count Uganda/Sudan! America rates well, too! Brits, eh… (So much for the Germans!)
And what does this have to do with top/bottom ratio? If memory serves me, it was a French study that stated the French have big dicks. Had it been a British study, the result would have been that the French ARE big dicks. My experience from innocent checking out fellow students in the locker room and 30 years of sex with men, black guys out size others.
Idiocy #6: Most gay men are in fact: Versatile! (Lying has been around forever!)
Well now, how can you argue that: “Most gay men are in fact Versatile” AND “Tops out number bottoms 3:1 to 10:1″? Can’t be both!
Idiocy #7: A man’s reproductive sexual peak is 19! (Might account for very young and very old bottoms)
And how does this make any sense? So age doesn’t effect tops, or you are only a top during sexual peaks? Yeah, this makes soooo much sense, not!
Idiocy #8: Gay men have bigger dicks than straight men. (An actual survey finding from France)
The same French survey that said the French have the largest dicks? Conducted by gays? This is beyond ridiculous. Oh, and this has what to do with the top/bottom ratio?
Idiocy #9: Porn stars look like they have huge dicks because they are often under 5’3″ and on steroids for their HIV condition and/or workout
Again, what does this have to do with the ratio of tops/bottoms? But since you posted this stupidity, well steroids have the unfortunately side effect of making one’s cock and balls SMALLER not appear larger. Also, the reason guys 5’3″ appear to have larger cocks is that 6″ against 5’3″ appears bigger than 6″ against a 6’3″ frame. BUT, steroids and workouts make the body larger, so one’s cock will appear SMALLER.
Idiocy #10: Many gay men, upon finding out they’re HIV positive, claim to be raped by the dominant partner (or a gang!) when in fact they were sluts who used unprotected sex over a long period of time
Between my hubby of 24 years and I, we lost scores of friends to AIDS in the 1980s and 90s. NOT A SINGLE TIME DID A SINGLE ONE OF THEM, NOR A SINGLE AIDS PATIENT WE CAME INTO CONTACT WITH DURING OUR YEARS OF VOLUNTEERING FOR THE CAUSE, CLAIM THAT THEY WERE RAPED! Not once. You managed to not only insult victims of this disease with slanderous bullshit, you also insult the victims of sexual assault/rape.
Idiocy #11: Love-making versus anonymous sex makes a dick harder and ejaculation more often (Great case for Gay Marriage!)
And yet so many men, straight and gay, fool around as often as possible! If the love at home was so amazing, why do men ever stray?
Idiocy #12: Over your lifetime, your Penis will shrink 20% in size!!!
(Not just in AOL inches!)
Really? Do you even have a dick? I don’t remember what mine looked like as a baby, but puberty did start making mine bigger and bigger. Now at 50, gravity keeps making it grow even more! So, over a lifetime, it starts out less than an inch, grows to, say 6.5” in my case, gets a little bigger still, and now you tell me that in some time before I die, it is going to shrink to 80% of an inch?
BIGGEST IDIOCY: Anyone can Google, even Queerty (although most of their information comes from the Advocate!) VERSUS YOUR POST #14: You actually have to know medical professionals and read journals rather than flick through the pages of Poz magazine at the Doctor’s office.
You do a real disservice to medical journals and medical professionals by attributing (WITHOUT ANY CITATIONS FOR VERIFICATION EXCEPT TO THE FAG-RAG SURVEY OF GRAIGSLIST PERSONALS) to them your insipid analysis of tops/bottoms, dick sizes, causes of disease…….
BONUS IDIOCY FROM DON’TBLAMEME: Promiscuity has proven to be the leading factor of infection followed by not using condoms.
Promiscuity is a wide-ranging vague term. To some, it means multiple partners daily; to others occasional partners every few years. The term promiscuity also does not define the type of sexual contact and conduct. One can easily consider themselves very promiscuous (lets say multiple partners monthly) and practice safe sex each and every time while another might not be promiscuous at all (one partner per year) and takes no preventative actions. Whether one practices safe-sex or not determines the risk factor, multiplied by the frequency of contact. [Yes condoms break, but using condoms is only one part of safe-sex practices. Additional precautions include using spermicide lubes, not ejaculating inside the body, cleanliness, etc.]
dontblamemeivotedforhillary
@Mike – So what! You don’t have all the answers to all the questions. Just because someone has access to information that you can’t fathom, so what!
Versatiles can call themselves Tops (thus increasing the ratio)
The rape thing hurts to hear as a Proud Gay Man as SOME of those who contracted HIV reach for the victim card first out of shame. I have accounts by Nuns, HIV positive folks themselves and psychological findings can be Googled. Shouldn’t it be time that we gays removed that stigma?
Steroids, with working out, create lean muscle mass and the organs appear enlarged especially on twinks. It’s only speculation that the Porn Industry is riddled with AIDS without public disclosure laws.
The stereotype that black men are well hung tops usually comes from racist whites (like at Ballys on Kings Highway)
France, New York and Washington DC make the Big Dick list because of multiculturalism and high proportion of Out Gay populations. Houston is also overweight which can cause impotence, hence the “Bottom Label”
Your husband probably strays because you are not that exciting sexually but you take the dogs out for a walk in the snow
The shrinking dick phenomenon doesn’t sit well with anyone but that was a Medical Fact that even I didn’t like to discover (Google it with your dial up service, Ash-man)
I’m sorry that you abandoned HIV Positive Gay men in the 00s (was Will and Grace worth it?) Some of us never gave up like you obviously have and now we are losing a new generation. Thanks for clocking out!
My Conjecture was admittedly Executives being Tops but sexual confidence is tied to income and the stereotype that straights or blue collar workers are Tops comes from that same ignorance that poor people are Rough Trade
It’s hard to hear the truth, even if presented flippantly which is the Queerty Format which irks you to no end because all that education you had amounted to nothing. So, call me Stupid if that makes you feel better or well-accomplished in life, and bed.
Really, who gives a Fuck about You or else you wouldn’t be here ranting against some stranger with scenarios of what I must be like which made me laugh Out Loud?
I like to push buttons because whatever we have done before in HIV prevention, Gender Identity and role-playing in Safe Sex Practices is NOT WORKING!
So, as you grind your cuspids, anyone can Google, read a Dictionary and consult Medical findings and polls but who wants to write a thesis for LOSERS like YOU.
Maybe, you are just another bitter bottom….if I could conjecture by that prostate enlargement problem you revealed like the loser you appear to be.
BTW – The article asked, if-all-gays-are-bottoms-howd-we-get-so-fucked and I answered but you could only attack me with no real solutions. Trouble in Paradise? I just clicked on the hot ass!
Get out of Brooklyn more. There’s a whole world out there…
sal(the original)
@3dollarbill: one@I pliss: two@mikeandrewsdantescove: 3(70%)@benlayvey: 4(woww)@edgyguy1426: 5…AMEN!!!!!!!BLESS U
Mike in Asheville, nee "in Brooklyn"
@No. 23 Dontblamemeivotedforhillary
Thanks for the clarification; thought you were just an idiot, didn’t realize that you are a moron. [Oh, if you don’t know the difference, Google it.]
dontblamemeivotedforhillary
@Mike in Asheville, nee “in Brooklyn” – You are below my intellect!
Mike in Asheville, nee "in Brooklyn"
@No. 26 · Dontblamemeivotedforhillary
Oh thats right, as a moron you don’t know that only idiots argue with morons.
Of course, that doesn’t preclude me from my little bit of fun goosing you over being an unawares moron. So, you have an intellect? Really? Dear, check your dictionary because I don’t think you know what “intellect” means. Let me suggest you look up Ayn Rand’s definition of an “interlectual”; it is a much more fitting term describing you.
dontblamemeivotedforhillary
@No. 27 · Mike in Asheville, nee “in Brooklyn”
You should get out more. You just put the “Stir” in “Crazy”
jay
I certainly hope the article is incorrect !! lol, I really love being fucked and I love to suck cock so I am a total bottom. Seriously, I get off while I am being fucked, at least most of the time. I did enjoy your article anyway. thanks