A group of young priests recently sat down with Irish Times to talk about homosexual life in the seminary and–guess what?–they’ve been having tons of gay sex!
“There are about 20 of us in my seminary,” a priest referred to as simply Axel explains. “Seven are clearly gay. About six others have, you might say, tendencies.”
Axel says that, if he had to guess, he’d say 75 percent of his fellow seminarians are gay or gayish.
‘The atmosphere at my seminary is also very homosexual,” adds another priest, referred to as Ydier. “There are homosexuals who are really chaste; there are also heterosexuals who are practicing.”
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“It’s a very unique atmosphere.”
A seminarian by the name of Lafcadio one of those “practicing” homosexuals. He tells Irish Times, “I’m often horny. So many nights spent in random beds–and still this promise to return to the seminary before curfew.”
Lafcadio adds that gay men within the church speak to one another in code, which took him a while to catch onto.
“I’ve got better at decoding things,” he says. “Sometimes I find monsignori, archbishops and cardinals making passes at me in the Vatican. Before I wasn’t aware of what they wanted from me. And now I know!”
Another place Lafcadio gets hit on: the confession booth.
“A number of priests to whom I have confessed my doubts or attractions have made advances to me.”
Then, of course, there’s Grindr.
Irish Times reports:
Today lots of [priests] spend their evenings on GayRomeo, Tinder, Scruff or Venerabilis–but mostly on Grindr.
Often priests spot each other without meaning to, having discovered that another gay cleric is a few meters away. And my team and I have also managed to prove that Grindr does its job every evening inside the Vatican State.
On Facebook, another site used a lot for cruising, because of the diversity of its members, it is easy to spot gay priests or seminarians.
According to a fourth seminarian who spoke to Irish Times, being gay is usually tolerated so long as it’s not on display.
“The only thing that is really banned is to be heterosexual,” he says, adding that “chastity and celibacy apply mostly to women.”
“I don’t see that as a double life,” he says. “A double life would be something secret and hidden. But my homosexuality is well known within the seminary. It isn’t noisy, it isn’t militant, but it is known.”
“What is truly forbidden, however, is to be militantly in favor, to assert oneself. But as long as one remains discreet, everything is fine.”
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RickFW
This article is not from Irish Times. It has been lifted word for word from “In the Closet of the Vatican” by Frédéric Martel. It is plagiarism pure and simple.
NateB79
The same guy also wrote it for the Irish Times. If you click on the link, he’s the author.
Curtispsf
For the first 1,000 years of the Roman Catholic Church, priests were not required to be celibate. The Church was a thousand years old before it definitively took a stand in favor of celibacy in the twelfth century at the Second Lateran Council held in 1139, when a rule was approved forbidding priests to marry. In 1563, the Council of Trent reaffirmed the tradition of celibacy.
Celibacy needs to go as contrary to the natural laws of nature. Also, priests should be allowed to marry, whether gay or heterosexual and WOMEN need to be capable of being ordained as priests if the Roman Catholic Church is going to remain relevant.
Mick406
Curtis . . . what you wrote is correct. The main reason priests were forbidden to marry was to cut down on corruption of money and properties. Priests’ children inheriting vast wealth from the coffers of a particular church or churches became the rage. All you have to do is watch the different Netflix series such as ‘The Borgias and the Medicis, showing how things were in the 1400’s and 1500’s. The Pope and Cardinals were all more obsessed with power, greed, titles, wealth, women, and the bestowing of properties to their children and kinfolk that they did little in the way of being shepherds of the people.
One of the reasons the Church continues to deny marriage is based on two things: 1. A married man cannot concentrate on his full time, 24 hour a day job, while taking care of a family and kids. You know how demanding a wife can be! 2. Yes, other churches allow their pastors to marry, but those churches have big collections on Sunday. A vast amount of Catholics are not as well off. Think of the inner cities and Hispanics. A lot of priests only make around $600 a month in the form of a stipend. They get a free house to live in and most food. But they must buy their own car and pay for any luxuries. I don’t think most Catholic parishes can afford to pay a priest a salary commensurate with supporting a wife and family. The priest lives in the Rectory, and you will find that the Rectory is a whirl in daily activity. Meetings, classes, etc. This means the priest would have to buy a house if he was married and pay all his utilities and insurance. Right now, most parishes are not equipped to take this on. In fact, many are barely meeting monthly expenses just to keep the church going.
I am a Catholic and I’ll be the first to tell you that my church has a horrible past history. At the same time, I will tell you that my church has done a tremendous amount of good for the people of the world. We have a stain of sin on the entire church that has come from about 10% of the prelates.
I don’t have an answer to the celibacy problem. Maybe a percentage of wealthy parishes can take on married priests. Even though, it will still feel strange. Catholics are used to the priest belonging to all of them, not another woman or a man.
balehead
Gay priests are not victims…they are enablers of homophobia…
QueerTruth
Yep. Not a single victim. Not one. They have been the secret society of gay men making life for gay men miserable.
Billy Budd
The virus of religion must be eliminated from the face of the earth.
OzJosh
Instead of seizing on this extract for a bit of soft porn, why doesn’t Queerty call out the stinking hypocrisy. These priests who are unapologetic about having loads of hot sex in the seminary are the very same priests preaching that homosexuality is a sin and that abstinence is the only path to salvation. They are the very same priests responsible for hundreds of years of oppression and persecution of homosexuals because they have demonised it. They are presumably the very same priests who are doing nothing to shift the Vatican’s position on homosexuality to this very day. They are not to be celebrated; they should be condemned in the strongest possible terms.
OzJosh
I hope you’re being sarcastic. If not, you might want to consider that numerous other religious communities allow priests to marry. And celibacy was only mandated for Catholic priests a few hundred years ago; there is nothing in the scripture that requires it. Celibacy is, in fact, all about preserving wealth and power structures within the church, and is one of the main reasons the whole organisation is so appallingly corrupt.
RickFW
To Nate: The first line says the seminarians sat with the writer from the Irish Times. No they didn’t. The seminarians sat down at different times with Martel and told him their stories. The author of the Irish Times lifted the story from Martel’s book. It’s still plagiarism.
mcs
“The Church” has no problems with gay priests with husbands. Your church may have problems – mine doesn’t…
Heywood Jablowme
Wow, I took a Vatican tour a few years ago and it never occurred to me to check out Grindr or Scruff on my phone to see who popped up! Lol, that would have been interesting. Well, they told us all about Michelangelo’s gayness etc. and that was interesting too.
mondongo
Another reason why religious morals are nonsense!
However, as most of these followers believe in magic and imaginary friends, it is not surprising that they also disbelieve nature and these supposed carnal desires are considered sins! Nature does not play games……..carnal desires are there to inspire procreation! Nothing more!
nm4047
is this really a ‘new’ news story, I don’t think too many ppl think catholic priest live by the law of their church. Have been to sex on premises venues where there have been (known) priest present getting their rocks off. I question if the church has any relevance in many ppl’s decision making now days.
Toofie
Plenty of other religions allow married priests. And it’s fine.
edfu
“Mankind can never be free until the last brick in the last church falls on the head of the last priest.”
–Voltaire
MuslimSlutBox
haters here, so many haters. it’s a joke to see libertine gays criticizing young gay priests for getting sex. talk about hypocrisy.