UPDATE: As of 6:15 EST Memories Pizza has collected more than $265,000 in donations. Here’s hoping the pizzeria’s owners do the good Christian thing and give that money to charity rather than pocket it all for themselves.
Just in case you were concerned about Memories Pizza in Indiana going out of business after owners Crystal and Kevin O’Connor announced yesterday that their pizzeria would not make any pizzas for any same-sex weddings, you can relax. The “Christian establishment” is doing just fine financially.
The pizzeria came under fire yesterday after saying it would refuse to cater a gay wedding, despite the fact that no same-sex couples ever asked it to. As a result, the O’Connors claim they were forced to shut down for the day after receiving a barrage of bad Yelp reviews and some crank phone calls.
“I don’t know if we will re-open,” Crystal O’Connor told conservative media yesterday, “or if we can, if it’s safe to re-open. We’re in hiding, basically, staying in the house.”
Turns out, going into “hiding” proved to be pretty profitable for the homophobic duo. Because while the O’Connors were hunkered down in their living room watching FOX News praying, a GoFundMe page was set up for their business and it raised more than $135,000 in less than 24 hours.
The fundraiser was set up by Dana Loesch of Glenn Beck’s network TheBlaze, and Lawrence B. Jones III, a contributor to the network.
“Nobody should ever have to suffer or suffer alone for their faith, for standing up for Christian principles,” Loesch preached during her broadcast before soliciting donations on the O’Connor’s behalf.
Kevin O’Conner later told the Daily Beast that he has never been asked to cater a gay wedding, adding “I don’t have a problem with gay people. I just don’t condone the marriage.”
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Julissa Nunez
Wow…people are terrible.
Bubba Jon Lopez
Hate feeds Hate.
Gene Dale Moore
this is the whole reason they pulled this stunt because idiots will give money to haters while people in the same community go hungry while they build bigger and better churches to prove how Christ like they aren’t
Greg James Estle-Scarle
Amazing. we have real people who need that and some bigoted ass hats get donations for an obviouse marketing ploy for money. Wow What does the Bible do to the brain chemistry of people.
Ken Nolan
There is a sicker born every minute! These doners are being used.
jwtraveler
I’m not at all surprised. Bigotry is alive and well in the USA.
Jimmy Tunstall
Jesus must be so happy.
Giancarlo85
LOL. So they made this as a whole stunt to raise money from idiots who were stupid enough to donate to them? Just like that florist lady. Same type of stupid garbage.
Safe to re-open lol? Do they honestly think gay people care about their shitty pizza? And these are the same type of Christians that bomb abortion cilnics.
Ron Dunn
I am so glad i am a Canadian and as an Openly Gay man can say the states is ass backward on what they choose to fight against. There are bigger issues out there than who can marry who, and its no ones business but your own who you choose to love and be with.
Steve Wyrick
Yet helping the poor and disadvantaged is SO objectionable….
Ron King
Hate pays off…..a true evangelical Christian Creep Value!
Joshua Anthony Villegas
So people really are this stupid and unaware…..there are countless things that money could have gone to but instead they give it to these slack-jawed, chromosomally faulty bigots. They wouldn’t know the tenets of their own religion the run up to them and bit them in their non-existent chins……
Cam
So no verified threats, nothing reported to the police, but now they have a pocket full of money and might not reopen? Sounds like a scam.
Alexander Mcafee-Chang
And then there’s me…
http://www.gofundme.com/AlexandersTruck
Kurtis Lavender
If people hadn’t blown up about these people expressing the opinion to a reporter that they wouldn’t cater a wedding with Pizza then they wouldn’t be getting $135,000. Thanks Social Justice Warriors, you struck again!.
Sean Burke
This is a scam pure and simple
Daniel Regina
I could care less. A fool and his money are soon parted.
Joseph Molnar
Donations?!?! WTF???
Robert Gosvener
They will need it now that the law has been rewritten to defend themselves in court for discriminating!
Charles Jenkins
Do the roaches come on the side?
Mark Villnave
This pizza place. NEVER REFUSED A GAY COUPLE. It was a twat left wing asshole local reporter LIED about this place. The HATE and DEATH threats they are getting is disgusting and not called for.
AtticusBennett
called it. total scam. they publicize their bigotry, in less than 48 hours close down and blame persecution, and make BANK.
whaddya wanna bet they end up getting in tax trouble for all this?
Donald Martin
Yet there are homeless and hungry and fellow – Christian! – citizens in need that they step over and ignore. Disgusting.
Anthony Hamilton
Oh well, you can’t fix stupid!
Jamie Hincks
I am sure that is what they planned on. Don’t worry, the Koch brothers and other bigots have got your back.
Michael Haynes
You can thank Glenn Back for this and a few others, What reqally surprises me is that they received money on a go fund me account given to them by the Anti-handout crowd. How strange is that.
Pablito Belanger
Gross
Sidney Davies
Wow
Rob Johnson
I so want to create a GoFundMe page to raise money to buy the damn pizza joint and serve everyone!! LOL
Scott Stevenson
I’m being oppressed by religious freaks, where’s my money? LOL
Charlie Gainey
Religion is SO man made. They don’t seem to be following the “teachings” of their fairytale “book”. So ridiculous.
Creig Stearne
Good to see hate and ignorance is alive and well in the US
Sam Sasser
Don’t let the Supreme Court know this. They think bigotry is dead.
John Williford
Crazy its probably more than they made in 2-3 years of profits…and all for hate
Augusto Kortright
I wish they would have donated that money to something useful like HIV/AIDS, LGBTQ homeless youth, Etc….. Not to support some close minded individuals that discriminates against people…..
Milk
It pays to be bigots, otherwise you won’t see all these idiots creamingtheir heads off to get the most attention and money.
Devin Tamiazzo
But like real talk what gay would have pizza at their wedding?
Glendon Robert Frank
Well who needs to work if you just be a scamming grifter ? …
John Bogack
Just a reminder that sex sells and so does hate.
Fitz Cowhey Thomas
Let’s see if they donate it to charity like a real Christian would .
Evve Kuykendall
Something tells me this was their plan from the beginning. They obviously saw what happened to chick-fil-a and how it helped them drive up business from religious nuts–clearly this dust up has been a wind-fall for them.
Darryl Moir
Burn it down
Darryl Moir
Are you people all fucked up burn it down, NOW
BJ McFrisky
After a similar backlash, Marie Antoinette finally relinquished and said, “Let them eat pizza.”
Darryl Moir
Quite whining shut your mouths and burn them out ya pack of pussys
Steven Alan
The death threats were uncalled for.
Lawrence Gisonda
I see stupid people… but they don’t know they’re stupid
Darryl Moir
Do GODS WORK and burn them out.
Kris McCleery
Fools and their $ …
Armando Casillas Rivas
Rauly Torres
Derek Williams
Wow, I knew bigotry paid, I just didn’t know how much!
Julian Rogers
That is revolting! When people in need can’t get a fraction of that amount to sustain life….bigotry on a public stage brings out the cash cow in support. What has this country come to?
Greg Morris
Money being shuffled from one bigot to the next…meh
Kyle G Humbard
That’s sickening
TheBigOne
Birds of a feather………..
Kevin Pulido
It was an obvious ploy for money, same crap happened with chick-fil-a all bigots.
Andrew Rogin
amazing how much people still hate us.
Loren Cunningham
Really ?feed the poor, nope. House the homeless veterans? Nope. Feed into hate? ding ding ding we have a winner!
Anunnaki Bunce
🙁
Donnie Bass
How grotesque
Jim Guinnessey
Hatred and haters always get the bucks. This is what’s wrong with America.
Rick Caffey
Just think taxes..taxes…
twoguysbrooklyn
Have you seen the video of this girl? I don’t even credit her with being a bigot. He’s just stupid. Undereducated, unaware… stupid. I read one report where they asked her whether or not she’d serve divorced people. She replied that she wasn’t sure about that one because she herself is divorced.
And there it is…
Derik Dill
Let’s get this story straight , they said they would not serve pizza to a “gay wedding” second they never said they won’t serve “gays” if they came into the store to buy pizza.
Allen Walter Leach
Wow, Alot Of Stupid People , To Fund That
Frank Croix
Why are they hiding? One stands up for their beliefs
Jack Peacock
Can these people be charged with funding a terrorist organization?
Zekester
This woman’s business was struggling and she knew just how to fleece the sheep and hit the jackpot.
I’m glad. Fools and their money…
Every dime that went to her from haterz is a dime that won’t be spent in a way that will actually hurt our community. I LOVE when haterz throw their money away!
Teodor Ciprian
I predicted this stunt.
Derik Dill
Another thing , if you have pizza at a wedding , then maybe you should of saved a little more to have it catered …. just a thought … with all this hateful talk and comments , we our no better then those . In the end who actually came ahead $135,000 … Let’s think before we speak …
Aay'ron Mayo
And they’re giving 10% to their church right?
Zekester
@Mark Villnave: they allegedly received death threats yet there is NO police report. They have produced NO email, NO voicemail, NO evidence whatsoever that they were threatened in ANY way.
You’re the kind of fool who believes these charlatans and gives them your hard earned money. PLEASE, go to their funding page and make a BIG donation. You deserve each other.
Michael Bonham
They probably did all this as a scam KNOWING someone would start a fund group. #Bitches
MikeColling83
Can someone please show me where in the Christian bible that gay marriage is even mentioned!
Patrick Strong
They played the “persecuted christian” card and the social conservative fell for it. I just thought she was just another ignorant bigot, turns out to be a scam artist
billeetee
Great Publicity Gimmick. “even though we’ve never been asked…” And it worked, but so did Oral Roberts’ request for eight million dollars!
And if it isn’t a gimmick then remember how they ‘all came out’ (no pun intended) for that poor baker and bakery, dropping thousands of dollars also?
Then after a reasonable time (probably they got tired of giving OR decided they had financed enough)the ‘donors’ stopped contributing and then we were reading about how the bakery was ‘floundering after all’.
And what happens when these ‘donor’s find out they’ve been given a bill of goods?
NOTHING. After all, it was ‘for a good cause’. Right?
Kevin J Desmond
I hope somebody firebombs that place and burns it to the ground !!!!
Scann Scannfun
This is what religion does….judge judge judge, yet their book says they shouldnt. Who is going to hell first?
Daniel Sullivan
that should just about cover her missing teeth…….now what ??
Christopher Scott Dahman
I know of about 20 GoFundMe accounts for people that REALLY need donations.
Trey Lewis
Damn aren’t they the smartest marketers ever – copied the chick-fil-a idea! The mom and pop restaurant was probably almost closed and someone came up w this brilliant marketing scheme – now running all the way to the bank
Ralph Vendegna
All i am going to say about this to the Religious Nut Cases is God is gonna get ya real good.
Scott Hummel
“after vowing?” its phrases like this that give the gay media a bad name. the pizza place has never catered a single wedding to begin with, the guy was put on the spot and asked a hypothetical question,
Jerry Wierzbicki
Un~F’n believable.
Celtic
I find this tale disappointing at so many levels, I want to yell out expletives. First, anyone who believes are claims their “Christian” faith or beliefs prevents them from serving homosexuals is a heretic. Getting one’s hate on has absolutely no relativity to what Jesus of Nazareth taught. The second thought is how these people are the very hypocrites that, again, Jesus teaches us to watch out for. Thirdly, these folks are the stone throwers who violate Jesus’ warning, “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”
I spent three years completing graduate study in theology and later became ordained. I will never profess to know all there is about Holy Scripture. Even the most learned of scholars will admit they do not know all their is about Holy Scripture. But I can state with confidence and certitude that this explosion in gay hate has no foundational support if one actually READS what Jesus taught. In The Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 19 Jesus speaks about men “who are not called to marry” and “men who come from their mother’s wombs as eunuchs”. What confounds me is, “Why all this negative energy over gays and lesbians?” If you don’t like us, that is simple enough.
But, please STOP using Scripture to support your hate, your lies, your self-righteousness, you misinformation about Holy Scripture and your over reaching hypocrisy. You all are fake Christians, using Scripture to support and underwrite mountains of hate and intolerance., Perhaps you should spend more time learning and less time grandstanding on some shallow moral cause.
Robert Becker
.. Just require businesses post a sign. “We do not serve Gays” if it is a strongly held religious value, let it be proudly displayed.
NateOcean
@Bubba Jon Lopez: Yep. Bigots with money are still bigots.
Giancarlo85
@Celtic: I don’t think the bible endorses scamming people out of their money either.
Ivan Alberto Lugo
There we go they prefer to give money so others can hate than to help the ones in real needs in my book that is NOT what GOD may want us to do!! bunch of hypocrites!!!
Gavin Morgan
Although I don’t condone any of this, their empathizers have the right to give them whatever they want.
enfilmigult
But you guys, they got CRANK CALLS and BAD YELP REVIEWS. At a pizza place! Isn’t murder the next logical step? Clearly their fearful decison to shut down and go into “hiding” isn’t just a bunch of self-serving horseshit. I mean, what pizza place wouldn’t do the same after getting CRANK CALLS.
(Sarcasm off: what a couple of assholes. Enjoy your fifteen minutes.)
Celtic
@Giancarlo85: Where do I say it does?
NE Estes
Yes its unreal!And their God forbids this however yet again they follow only what they want!
Brian K Johnson
Did anyone look on the menu to see if thy put ham or pork sausage on their pizzas? Or is that a Leviticus law that doesn’t matter to their “strong religious beliefs”?
Lee Martin
So ??? So does this mean discrimination is now ok ?
Merv
@Celtic: The haters are a lot more Christian than the liberal Christians. Christianity is a religion of slavery, genocide, and execution of gay people. It’s all in the Bible, and approved by God.
Vincent Turner
They will take that money and run with it.
Transiteer
Hateful Ignorant Stupid people who love to hide behind religion (although religion is poison, fake and hateful enough on it’s own). Let all these Morons send their money to make a bigoted pizza chef rich, and keep their money out of actually hurting People. America’s “Land of the Free” is proven a Big Joke though isn’t it?
David Currin
Probably from the Koch brothers or Chick-Fil-A
mcflyer54
Hope the O’Connors realize they have to pay taxes on this crowd funded money. I’d sure hate to see them lose their business due to income evasion. Maybe they should just declare their pizza shop a church and they could avoid both serving gays and paying taxes.
Craig Simons
I’m going to open a new business that discriminates just so I can get their stupid ass money and then donate it to HRC
Leonard Woodrow
Fools and their money are easily parted! This sick family are probably laughing all the way to the bank, seeing how well their get rich quick plan met with so much success.
Such hypocritical “Christians” have Jesus spinning like a top in his grave.
Celtic
@Merv: So, you simply join them by parsing out the portions that endorse such things — most of which, by the way, is found in Hebrew Bible (Old Testament). No clear thinking priest, pastor or theologian will knowingly apply Scripture as literal. Please note, I say “Clear thinking”, which in today’s world is a limited in number.
Tracy Pope
Dana Loesch is the not-as-horse-faced, maybe more crazy, right wing sister-in-arms of Ann Coulter. I’m not surprised the Go Fund Me made over a hundred thousand in less than 24 hours. I am certain if the tables were turned and the pizzeria was gay-owned and being picketed or harassed a Go Fund Me would have made more than double that in 24 hours. They just don’t understand that the world is slowly evolving and these so-called christians are being left behind. (Yeah, that last line is totally on purpose!)
Celtic
@Tracy Pope: Ann Coulter is the most vile and vicious women ever. It must be a harsh life to live with all that cancerous hate, rage and anger and self-righteousness. And, you are spot on about these “So-called Christians” because in truth and fact they are anything but; and, Christian in name only.
Ward Dustin
A fool and their money are soon parted
DonW
@Darryl Moir: @Kevin J Desmond
They deserve all the public shaming they get, but calls for firebombing are counterproductive. Everything you post on here is being monitored by the Neanderthal right and when you engage in violent rhetoric, even in jest, you are just confirming their prejudices about the nasty ol’ gays.
Luis H. Lopez
Perhaps that was the plan from a failing business !
Ward Dustin
The attention and support the bill received for how it discriminated was priceless
Corey J Hodges
People are stupid…
Bob Birdsell
Well played you Bigots!
Belinda Carmichael
Here’s what I’m hoping. More of these businesses do the same thing and these banjo picking morons go broke donating to all of them.
Cam
@Craig Simons: said… “I’m going to open a new business that discriminates just so I can get their stupid ass money and then donate it to HRC”
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God idea, except, maybe you would want to donate it to a group that actually fights for LGBT rights.
Jim Cothran
such stupidity on the human race that donated!
Owen Lovejoy
Lol they closed down after one day of fallout……hmm lets throw more money at them and let them try it again. It just goes to show where christian values lie. That money could have fed the hungry, medicated the sick, helped the poverty stricken…..any of the things christians are instructed to do. Yet it gets used to help keep hate alive.
James Sigmon
This is crazy.
James Sigmon
OK I need $$ for a new care
LubbockGayMale
‘Starve a fool, feed a bigot’????? Stupidity and bigotry is now a sure-fire way to earn money in these United States.
heath0043
@Fitz Cowhey Thomas: If they do I’m sure it will be to a church, not a real charity that will actually help people.
Dawson
I know many people discount those who are supporting this establishment but we need to remember that there are many people who hate us in the name of religion or in the name of bigotry.
Case in point that is NOT getting the attention needed and a good reminder to us all. Sean Dolittle of the Oakland A’s girl friend has offered to buy any ticket to people who are season ticket holders to their Pride Night in June. Please go to the Yahoo website and read the majority of the comments that hate us. This is not a pro or anti gay website yet those who have commented have written some awful things about us. This is why we must continue to fight for gay causes.
Peter Gorobetz
Some gays should open a pizza restaurant across the street from them and make really good pizza that will forever shut the bigots down
Rick Hottinger
Hatred is profitable, wtf is wrong with this state and country, oh, it’s the bible
Leslie Crockett
Scam artists
Kenny Estle-Scarle
I just hope they remember to pay the taxes on that donation…they aren’t a church but are a For-Profit organization, but I bet they try and weasel out of it.
Brian Kozak
If I vow to discriminate against gays will I get more donations on my GoFundMe account? do you have to be straight to do this or can you be gay and also discriminate against gay people?
Hell, here you go.
Gofundme.com/kozakstory
Homo Erectus
Memories…
Obviously named for the Barbra Streisand song!
Realitycheck
I bet these bigots, have never ever donated 1 cent to any AIDS
charitable organization, yet they have no trouble pumping up
$135,000.00 for two religious fanatics.
What a sad world we live in……….
Nico Vasquez
Eew
Kyle O'Flaherty
Hate will always support hate. They’re Like cockroaches. #thankgodimcanadian
Realitycheck
Actually they are now at $ 238,952.oo …………
I hope those bigots spend all this money in medical care.
Realitycheck
@Kenny Estle-Scarle:
It is easy to make sure they remember, wait few weeks, till all donations are
made and done with, and paid to the pizza bigots, then fill up this IRS form and
send it to the IRS.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f211.pdf
Mail Form 211 to:
Internal Revenue Service
Whistleblower Office – ICE
1973 N. Rulon White Blvd.
M/S 4110
Ogden, UT 84404Mail Form 211 to:
The donations income total can be found here…
http://www.gofundme.com/MemoriesPizza
Shawn Williams
Donations!? That’s income! I’m sure they will do the right thing and pay taxes on that income. Or is there a religious exemption for that. Oh, that’s right, they’re not a church.
George Ritzel
They are going to need it for the law suit
Stephen Bates
They are the backside of the horse the deposit was
Wilson W Wong
Molotov cocktail anyone?
mdhess
The pizzeria says it won’t cater to gay weddings but not that it won’t serve gay people in its restaurant — perhaps it’s time for a bunch of leather queens to get together and have a pizza party in their parlor!
Realitycheck
@mdhess:
Why? Have you seen the decor? LOL The pizza must be as bad.
Low Country Boy
Two comments: (1) “The gays” would never sever pizza at a wedding; and (2) Apparently, bigotry = $$$.
polarisfashion
Wow, I didn’t think people would send them donations. I wonder if the IRS or FBI will investigate them for fraud?
Gigi Gee
It’s now at $260 000. Hate is a money maker apparently.
Romandude7
Guys, I honestly don’t think they hate anyone. How many complaints has this place received for being discriminatory and anti-gay? They have a PERSONAL belief that so far has not been reflected in the way they do business. They were asked a HYPOTHETICAL question and the owners young daughter answered it honestly.
Andrew Monce
I hope they have to use that money to pay for their medical bills when all their children get aids and die …NOW that would be ironic.
John M McGrath
Agree Wilson
arj
…..and it’s ALL TAXABLE…..are you IRS minions paying attention?? $135,000 EXTRA income for 2015……..
Lance Mullholland
@Jimmy Tunstall: Sweeping statement – generalizing – sorry! THEIR Jesus, not loving Jesus. Hate works both ways, don’t give in to the pitchfork and torches crowd. They hide behind Christ to do their evil, and will bow one day as will we all.
Happy Easter!
rickhfx
The devil is good to his own “they say”.
Ronnie Denny
Haha you know what’s funny like they actually know how to make pizza in Indiana imbread fucks hahahah
Aaron Halsey
“Then jesus proceeded to say “love thy neighbor as thyself. Unless thy neighbor wants you to cater their gay wedding. Then you must deprive them of pizza”
John
Hate begat hate…Im just as disapointed in the gays nastiness in this situation.
Harold Powell
Who said crime or bigotry does not pay
James Owen Donnahoe
Gotta love Merica!
Romandude7
@Merv, sorry but your interpretation of the bible is incorrect.
S Christopher
What gay couple is seeking hire a pizza parlor to cater their wedding? These folks are pathetic!
David Thomas
Still don’t care
Anderson Santos
It was probably the owners son that tried to order pizza for his wedding
Bobby Rosenthal
Wow, who knew “religious” bigots were so generous?!
blackberry finn
I cringe at these stories because I know it’ll usually be an O’Connor or a McKenzie or a Sullivan. Heaping more shame on Irish-Americans. (///)
jimontp
So when this guy who lives in the center of the Meth epidemic problem in this country, and he names his daughter Crystal, then says he doesn’t “condone” gay marriage and pulls off this giant scam to bilk the gullible rightwing fundies, and they send in all these contribtions to a mediocre pizza place, does this really not ring off a lot of alarm bells???? Apparently not.
The irony of all that “Christian” bigot money go to support “Crystal” and her dad, doesn’t anyone else see the scam?
Mandrake
This is all nonsense. The GLBT community needs to CHILL! I am gay, want gay marriage in all 50 states, and can discern what fights to wage and which ones not to. I like the Indiana law very much! Why would GLBT’s want service from a business who doesn’t want their patronage?? I would be very reluctant to patronize any anti-gay business because they couldn’t be trusted to provide the level and quality of service that other similar businesses would.
This Indiana law nicely ferrets out the bigots, and in a free market place there’s enough competition to suit anyone’s wants and needs without having to resort to a business that is averse to their orientation. Let’s not cut our noses off to spite our faces and hope more of these laws are passed so we know whom we can trust with our business and whom we can’t. Money does indeed talk!
scotshot
@Mandrake: I personally wouldn’t patronize a place that won’t serve me or anyone I know. The deal here though is the fact that if you go back 50-60 years you see the results of refusing to serve a minority. Today a Pizzeria tomorrow a movie theater, clothing store, hotel, etc. The only war to win in a fight with a bully is to stand up to them. The right is frustrated that our group of people is winning the war and the publicity from this discriminatory acts should win us more supporters. Never, ever back down!
Billy Budd
There is something terribly wrong about the world.
tham
a pizza joint catering a Gay Wedding?
What bizarro world is this happening in? Does everyone have goatees?
Ward Dustin
I want to see how much they donate to the church!!
ageeare
I started a GoFundMe to benefit The GLBT Resource Center of Michiana, which is 30 minutes from this pizza place. http://www.gofundme.com/qpes24
TheNewEnergyDude
C’mon, they’re “Christians”…OF COURSE they’re going to pocket the money.
Honestly, all the events from this past week and all of the fighting.
It all makes me just want to get off the fucking planet or hope the world blows up.
This world just sucks and has turned into a complete fucking hellhole.
Rob
More accurate headline: Indiana Pizzeria to Receive More Than $400,000 After Gay Libs Bully, Threaten And Intimidate Based on Bullshit Fabricated Story.
[email protected]
So are the hate-mongers going to donate another $250k to the next business that says they won’t cater a gay wedding – if so, and I’m sorry fellas, I may have to declare that I won’t be catering gay weddings either with my just established catering company – I need the money.
[email protected]
@Andrew Monce: that’s really a horrible statement that doesn’t help our cause such as all the other death threats and threats to burn down their business – it totally works against our goal.
Romandude7
@Rob: Very true
Romandude7
@scotshot: The problem is you are starting to lose people who were starting to come around to your position. I was on the fence of the gay marriage issue and was slowly coming around but to bully people because they have a different belief in you is the new fascism. To have a litmus test that if you are in favor of traditional marriage you are automatically a bigot is bigotry in itself and will turn people like me away from your noble cause.
Matt Bidwell
Now they can afford to turn that dump into something the gays might actually feel sad about missing out on.
Giancarlo85
@Mandrake: Chill about what? These con-artists lying to people in order to raise money? And you like the law very much? And you claim to be gay? Any self-respecting LGBT person would not like that grossly unconstitutional and disrespectful law. There is NOTHING to like about the law.
Why did black people try to patronize businesses that didn’t want them, like during the 1950s/1960s? Maybe if you look at the history you would realize how stupid your statements sounds! Why did Rosa Parks just not walk?
Giancarlo85
@Romandude7: Wow, starting to “lose people” who were starting to come around to your position? That explains all the skyrocketing levels of support in well recognized opinion polling for same sex marriage? Your statements don’t make any sense.
And now you’re resorting to the same old red herring. Nobody is being silenced. People can voice whatever opinion they want. Gay people are not bullying those against same sex marriage. Gay people are merely asking tough questions of those against same sex marriage. Those against same sex marriage have NO answers and therefore get defensive (much like yourself).
You know what? Stay on the fence. You’re irrelevant. I can state this as I look at opinion dynamics. Same sex marriage support is skyrocketing with or without you. Stop acting as if you’re special and important.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/09/support-for-gay-marriage-hits-all-time-high-wsjnbc-news-poll/
The conservative Wall Street Journal and NBC did a poll. 59% in favor of same sex marriage. So your opinions are immaterial. Sorry.
Giancarlo85
@Rob: Here is a real headline: Republican right wing bullshit artist, Rob, bullshits on a gay website about something he heard on Fox News.
Not a fabricated story at all. Learn how to read.
There was ZERO evidence anyone got bullied or threatened. There was no police report. IF there were threats of some kind, then a police report should have been filed. This never happened.
Thanks for the right wing lies. Glad to see the right wing bullshit artists are back at it!
TomOH
The next time one of these situations happens, I would love to see a couple pretend to be conservative and anti-gay and whine about being bullied, and get all over the news, then take all these donations and turn around and give them all to gay friendly charities. It will drive the bigots up a wall and make them paranoid about donating again in the future.
Rob
@Giancarlo85: “This never happened.”
Oops!
http://www.abc57.com/story/28696535/high-school-coach-suspended-after-tweet-about-pizzeria
Guess I can’t blame an ignorant lemming fucktard, though. This whole liberal War on Christians is manufactured bullshit that relies on poor Useful Idiots like you.
Corey Johnson
Oh hey. I’m trying to get money for school…
gofund.me/scienceclass2015
northwest
Dana Loesch is pure scum, a vile, hateful far right bigot, evil to the core. She knows nothing about principles, Christian or otherwise. Shame on those homophobic idiots supporting this pizza restaurant.
Realitycheck
I guess bigotry does pay off, the Pizza freaks are now getting $486,000.oo
for their anti gay stance.
I hope a huge truck runs them over.
Mikah
I hate this species.Fucking religitards.
Realitycheck
Hey Queerty where is the celebration?
Pubblica opinion has forced bigot Mike Pence to change the law to include
protection for LGTB, and Walmart has stepped up to our defense.
This is a new America!!
Hey Mikey
So they’re just against gay marriage, but have no problem serving gay people. But I doubt many people walk into their restaurant and say, “Hi, I’m gay and I’d like two slices.” Remember that a lot of this is about perception. Let’s see what happens the first time a “metrosexual” straight man (hmm, Aaron Schock, anyone?) walks into one of these businesses and is refused service on religious grounds because of the perception that he must be gay. Now there’s a discrimination suit that would blow all of this stupidity right into the gutter where it belongs.
On the other hand, I don’t want to become like them either. Speak up? Absolutely. But spout just the reverse of the hatred that they’re spouting? Because we have “the righteous cause”? Why does that sound familiar? And the only purpose it ends up serving is to make other ill-informed and misguided (okay, ignorant) people perceive (there’s that word again) that the business owners are the victims (and in this case, give them lots and lots of money). And so it goes around… and around… and around. And no one learns a damn thing.
Cam
@Romandude7: said…
“The problem is you are starting to lose people who were starting to come around to your position. I was on the fence of the gay marriage issue and was slowly coming around but to bully people because they have a different belief in you is the new fascism.”
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I LOVE how the right wing trolls call wanting to have civil rights “Bullying” others.
Nice try troll, but you know, the Mormon Trolls were a little better at it then you when they tried the same argument on here during the Prop 8 fight in Ca.
As for these Pizza Owners. I hope every right wing, bigoted nutjob comes out and puts up a go fund e page. Let them all go bankrupt sending all of their money to bigots.
Celtic
@Cam: I wholeheartedly agree with you. Obviously “Romandude7” finds it quite okay for the Roman Church, the Mormon Church and certain fundamentalist “Christian” denominations to raise millions to prevent civil rights and equal rights for gays and lesbians. So, Romandude7 gets his drawers all in a twist because so many people — straight and gay, by the way — have come out against the Pizzeria so aggressively and viciously. Too bad, Ms. O’Connor, YOU made yourself a national spectacle. The gay community did not. As to Romandude7, educate yourself about the issues before you try to put yourself on some godforsaken moral high horse.
Maude
@Cam:
CAM, There you go again. You seem never to check your facts before you vomit your bilge.
I don’t care weather your low-information opinions oppose or agree with the subjects at hand, but geez, please stop making it up as you go.
You are entitled to your opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.
Maude
@Kurtis Lavender:
You got that right. They went shopping until they found a person stupid enough to express an opinion that was sure to raise the ire of the Gay community, and of course attract the attention of the trouble makers that inhabit every rat hole in
small-town America.
Celtic
@Giancarlo85: And of course he will claim he is a “good Christian”. Not only are his type not “good Christian”, they are neither good nor Christian. Christian in name only, performing the acts of Satan in God’s name.
Giancarlo85
@Rob: That doesn’t count for shit. There no real threats made. And the only ignorant stupid dumb fuck here is you. Use your fucking little brain. And what liberal war on Christianity? Are you on drugs?
You are a stupid fucking right winger. The American right like you are mindless zombies who repeat what you are told. Then you cite an article that doesn’t prove anything at all. People like you are toxic to this country and you don’t know the meaning of separation of Church and State. You want to blend the two and force others to believe in your religion.
You are nothing more than a cult member and a fool.
joe
This was my blog from the other day. Saw this coming
http://www.quigleycartoon.com/?p=2920
Giancarlo85
Why do we have right wing losers posting on this site? Rob and others, you do realize that this is a gay website? On this site, we only use logical and educated arguments. Not ignorant idiocy. If you morons want to be ignorant go post on yahoo articles or on Fox news.
Giancarlo85
@Maude: Stop lying. Cam is absolutely right in that post. Rob posted one link that doesn’t prove anything. There weren’t any real threats. Now these crooks made off with over a quarter of a million. I guess dumb asses are still too common in this country.
Celtic
This responds to your latest message to Mandrake along with some thoughts about Mandrake’s comments. One issue that is overlooked or understated is how the O’Connor family is basing their discrimination against gays on religious grounds. Mandrake fails to mention how that same premise was used against blacks for years, used aggressively against black / white interracial marriages. The O’Connor family has “made” over $300,000 off this hysteria and their false premise of Christian faith. (If they truly followed Jesus they would know how false they are and should not be claiming God and Christ.) As to the O’Connor windfall of money, since they did not go out to the public to get these donations they have not committed any criminal act. (I read that the O’Connor is the sister of Ann Coulter, if that tells you anything at all!) BUT, they will have to report this money on their 2015 tax filings. Let’s see if that happens. As to Mandrake’s remark about the free market vs. discrimination, I belief he needs a college refresher on both topics.
Realitycheck
@Giancarlo85:
Giancarlo don’t get upset with idiots like Rob, a quick look to his Facebook page reveal (get ready to fall off your chair laughing) a gourmet review of restaurants of the likes of:
Denny’s and few diners (rolling my eyes) who rates Danny’s ??? LOL
He is also a member of Ann Coulter’s Gays, for Gay GOP conservatives LOL what a self hating freak.
And he is a Technician 3rd class at Jupiter Mining Corporation…… Mines the ultimate gay work place……..All those dirty and ruff men.
And he few scary pictures of himself on his own Facebook page, clearly to ugly and
ridiculous looking to hang out with real people…
His favorite food? A waffle in the shape of Texas LOL
Truly a high class (lol) well to do man with an incredible taste…NOT LOL
Realitycheck
This is ridiculous the 2 Pizza hate mongers bigots and freaks have
now well gone over $541,000.oo can’t wait to file that tax evasion form with
the IRS………………………..
Giancarlo85
I don’t know about Satan or God or if either exist. I do know that some even posting on here have malicious and nasty intentions. I also know that some of the right wing trolls on here have nothing better to do with their time.
Giancarlo85
@Realitycheck: Wow. I did not see his profile, but that’s hilarious! Maybe I’ll go do a yelp review of Burger King!
But… he’s gay? Oh my goodness. A right wing backstabbing self hater. I really can’t stand those types. And working for a mining company lol? My favorite food is Pho (Vietnamese) and arepas (Colombian)… and his favorite food is a waffle lol. That’s hilarious!
I couldn’t access his facebook though as I no longer have a facebook profile myself (I have too many issues with their privacy rules).
martinbakman
Wow. Now >$500,000. The other good Christians are probably sad they missed out on this gravy train.
Mandrake
@Giancarlo85: There’s a bit difference between having to sit in the back of the bus, drink from separate water fountains, and go to separate schools based on race. ALL businesses and public accommodations were far inferior and lacked resources that whites were well accorded, and that was state wide.
Today, we have a free market for everyone, and any business that does not want to provide service to a particular group has a competitive business in the next neighborhood that will, cheerfully and professionally.
Why would you force your patronage on a business that doesn’t want it? They’re the ones losing money, not you. It’s a win-win situation. You know openly who’s not in favor of your patronage and who is AND the right wing religious groups serve whom they wish. The free market can be refreshing!
Giancarlo85
@Mandrake: Enormous fail. Sorry but that simply doesn’t stand. This has nothing to do with the quality of accommodations. If you’re serving the public you must serve everyone equally.
“We have a free market for everyone” – Bullshit. This country is governed by regulations and laws. They already revised the law in Indiana to prohibit discrimination. There are numerous cities that strictly prohibit discrimination in businesses based on various factors (including sexual orientation).
If a business doesn’t want it they need to close up shop and go out of business. It isn’t a win-win situation. Your views are basically allowing for discrimination and hatred to continue. And my examples of segregation stand fully and are very relevant.
The free market can be refreshing? More right wing bullshit.
Giancarlo85
By the way, try to argue that stupid ass argument with the cities that have non-discrimination laws on the books. You won’t go too far with it at all. Either serve everyone without discrimination or close up shop.
jantheman4903
well if those who say they are outraged n stick to it….losing 20 percent of your business …will make more of a mark. but we,including me sometimes lol..tend to protest n be gone..so they will win in that case.
Maude
So we Gays who were subjected to horrendous bullying hatred all of our lives, now choose to subject a small family of christens to the same horrendous bullying hatred that we have had to endure…..because a young girl said because of her religion, she couldn’t cater a gay pizza wadding after that same young girl was asked the hypothetical question:
“Would you cater a Gay Pizza Wedding, if you were asked too”?
The entire country is against us now….because some of us have shown how despicable some of us are….and all of us have to suffer the consequences that a few of us created…..and set our righteous cause for acceptance by the entire society back to a place we left behind us…at least a year ago.
I hope you’re proud of yourselves.
Cam
@Maude: said… “So we Gays who were subjected to horrendous bullying hatred all of our lives, now choose to subject a small family of christens to the same horrendous bullying hatred that we have had to endure”…….”The entire country is against us now….because some of us have shown how despicable some of us are”….
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Note to all the anti-gay bigoted trolls. You are easy to spot. Boycotting a store isn’t bullying. And there was no police reports, or any reports of threats, so it’s funny that you all keep claiming this.
As for your comment about the entire country being against “Us”, funny that the polls show a majority of the country supports not only gay marriage, but that gays score higher than Evangelicals.
So you’re an anti-gay bigoted troll, you are easy to spot, and your arguments are ridiculous and said.
Giancarlo85
@Maude: Nobody is being bullied here. The owners of the pizza place came out in favor in the news. They didn’t have to do that. They aren’t being threatened or bullied though.
“The entire country is against us now….because some of us have shown how despicable some of us are….and all of us have to suffer the consequences that a few of us created…..and set our righteous cause for acceptance by the entire society back to a place we left behind us…at least a year ago. ”
You’re an absolute pigheaded liar. I don’t even know what else I can say to you. Have you seen any of the polls recently? The Wall Street Journal put out one showing almost 60% of same sex marriage. The entire country is against us now? And what evidence do you have to support that statement?
You are so hapless and full of shit.
You’re way too easy to figure out, maude.
1EqualityUSA
Maude, Those that never would have accepted us, will never accept us, so get over it. I don’t care what they think, as long as our inalienable rights are protected. Forty years could go by and still you’ll have these people such as Pence, Palin, Popes, and politicians finding fault with how we are wired.
Celtic
You are spot on! I came out 47 years ago this summer with my first partner. I joined gay rights groups in the 80s; wrote for small gay rags in the 90s. Frankly, I am shocked we have moved as far as we have in such short time. When I came out in 1968 I was TERRIFIED about being found out. Today’s younger gays really do not have a sense of what the challenges were. I still remain very cautious about who I let into my personal life.
Kenia Brittney Armstrong
Eat every one of your stink’in pizzas!
Sam Theman
Try $877,000. now!
Romandude7
@Giancarlo85: First of all, by the actions on your side, this pizza place had to shut down because of the threats of being burned down and they did not know which orders were legit and which ones were fake. THAT is your silencing. What you don’t realize is that the people who are coming on your side are now being revolted at by why they are seeing you do to people who don’t agree with you. By the actions of these people you are setting your cause back BIG time.
Celtic
@Romandude7: You are so far off base. I happen to be an ordained Christian theologian. I said nothing about the Roman Church in the matter of the O’Connor family. (You could at the very least spell their name correctly.) Nothing like going off message. But, hold onto your misinformed hysteria. Perhaps an anger management course will help?
Romandude7
@Cam: Yes it is all fun to name call. But you are missing the point. I was quiet on the other side and now supportive of gay marriage vocally. But the way you are being intolerant of others just because of a PERSONAL belief and not something they do in practice is making me and others start to change my mind. You may think I am just one person. But this one person made the effort to create this account and voice my opinion. If you keep on this path, you will see a public opinion reversal on this issue like you have never seen.
Romandude7
@Celtic: Please tell me how much money the Roman Catholic church raised against this issue? I can tell you, ZERO. And you say Ms O’conner put her self out there? Dude, the reporter sought HER out. Her family was not looking for any of this.
How about you focus your efforts on these muslim bakeries who would NOT make a cake for a gay wedding? http://louderwithcrowder.com/hidden-camera-gay-wedding-cake-at-muslim-bakery/
Oh I know why, it is because your are just selective in targeting Christians, is that it?
Kevan1
I doubt God would agree with these people and their hate for fellow men.
Giancarlo85
@Romandude7: Goodness… You are a big liar. Have you ever been honest about anything? They were forced to close because of what actions? They are in a part of the country where bigotry is common, so I doubt their business was hurt by their attention seeking comments to the media. You are a big ignorant idiot… Thanks for sharing. You are a liar. Nobody is being revolted. You are making things up and you couldn’t be anymore wrong.
Check out the skyrocketing support for same sex marriage and gay people in general. Even a fucking Wall Street Journal poll said that. So much for “setting” our cause back. Learn how to use a real argument and not just your stupid fantasy. By the way, that poll said nearly 60% support same sex marriage.
Giancarlo85
@Romandude7: Nobody cares about you. You are immaterial to the bigger picture. You are not special and nobody needs to personally appease you. Grow up please. The bigger picture is that the LGBTQQI community is gaining unprecedented support. With or without your wishy washy bigoted ass.
Giancarlo85
@Romandude7: A public opinion reversal? Oh bullshit. You are now talking histrionics. You have no clue what you are talking about.
You aren’t a representative for anyone.
There were no threats and there was no police report. You were conned into believing that though.
Romandude7
@Giancarlo85:
http://bizzyblog.com/wp-images/MemoriesPizzaTweetedThreat040115.png
Please tell me how burning down your business is not a threat?
Romandude7
@Giancarlo85: And Genius, you said there is 60% approval? Dude, I was one of those 60%. If you are going to continue on this hateful bigoted fascist campaign that NOBODY can disagree with you then I ASSURE you, that support will backfire against you in a way you can’t imagine.
Maude
Those of you who are lacking in self respect, and are self hating morons, know who you are…and so do the rest of us…..
Those of us who have served in the Armed Forces of the greatest country the world has ever known with, integrity, high self-worth, honor, dignity and dedication of purpose to defend those things listed, remain proud, steadfast and loyal to truth and justice for all……Gays and straights enjoyed each others bodies over there with gusto and enthusiasm worthy of of the Gods, and not a one of us gave a shit about Gay pizza weddings, or those who would or would not cater them.
We were then, we are now, and we will always be proud Gay Americans who fought for God and Country without reservation….and no bunch of phonies with nothing on their minds except where their next blowjob is coming from will ever gain even as much dignity as the lowest shit eating low life enemy creeps known too man can come out from under the soles of our combat boots where we stepped in camel shit while kicking the butts of the worst of the worst of the enemy.
You bring shame and disgust to all freedom loving Gay Americans who fought for the right to deny as well as accept according to their own conscience.
Celtic
As a Veteran, USAF Sergeant, not quite sure what provoked your post.
Giancarlo85
@Romandude7: Dude, nobody gives a flying fuck what you think. You are not one of those “60%”. Nobody cares about you. You are nothing special. Public opinion is trending in one direction. In favor of same sex marriage. Every single poll says that. You are immaterial and insignificant. Your opinions are not relevant to anyone.
There was no real threats and no police report. There was no involvement of law enforcement. So you are just living in fantasy make believe land.
No, it will not backfire. You are an idiot who speaks for yourself and no one else.
And how am I being hateful? Or a bigot? Or a fascist? Are you a hypocrite? Don’t you see how stupid you are sounding?
Giancarlo85
And you know what else, roman? Go fuck off. Nobody cares about your wishy washy bigoted ass. You’re not part of the 60%. You’re part of the 20-30% that is still against same sex marriage.
Nobody is being silenced and these pizza owners of this mediocre shit they call pizza, are NOT VICTIMS. Stop acting as if they were victimized. They knew exactly what they were doing. They cashed in.
Giancarlo85
By the way, public opinion is not relevant to legal matters. Legal matters are in the hands of the courts. Not in the voters. What you think is irrelevant.
1EqualityUSA
Romandude7 was never a friend of ours.
1EqualityUSA
Change the name to, “Bad Memories Pizza.” My geek-o-meter is in the red on the name of this restaurant. No wonder it went out of business.
Maude
@Celtic:
Celtic
Going with the flow of misinformation and putting hate filled trumped up accusation before the resilience of truth that with any common sense at all proves the fact of the matter, is there is no problem here, none!
Except the want to attack a couple who simply want to excise their First Amendment right of freedom of religion.
Something you and I risked our lives to protect.
What is being said here is absolutely without merit.
The women responded to a bait question intended to create turmoil where there was no refusal to serve gay’s…there was only a thought that if asked to cater a gay pizza wedding, would her religion condone it> She answered, “No”.
We fought with our lives against those who would deny our Freedom Of Religion
and no pipsqueak selfish excuse for a man, Gay or straight has the right to exercise his want over the Constitutional need of all citizens to deny that they deny their God by going against His word.
Giancarlo85
@Maude: Uh huh, and you’ve been spouting off a lot of misinformation in this thread. Nobodys first amendment rights are under attack. They are free to have whatever religion they want. Other people also have their first amendment rights. That is called freedom of speech. This works both ways, maude.
People have a RIGHT to criticize others.
What is being said here is absolutely with solid evidence and strong merit. And there are now suspicions the donations were done by a few sources, and not many. And a good answer to a bait question (if it was really one, which it was not) is “no comment… just running a business”.
Nobody is having their freedom of religion rights denied or silenced. No one. Learn the facts before you open your mouth. Also keep in mind, that people have a right in this country to criticize others. If you’re going to say something stupid, someone will respond. Do you think your religious beliefs are protected from critcism? If you do, you don’t know anything about the Constitution you claim to protect.
Celtic
Thank you for bringing at least some clarity to this. I wondered about his “First Amendment” freedoms coming under attack. In fact, the media fueled this fire. Now I wonder, Who fueled all that money giving? Not a bad haul for a pizzeria in a week. Frankly, if the O’Connor family does not want to cater a gay wedding, fine! I am perfectly okay with that.
1EqualityUSA
Maude, You are so wrong on this. Expand it out to hospitals. Can St. Luke’s refuse gays? Where is the gradient? If pizza parlors or flower shops can refuse to serve unpopular Americans, then why not hospitals, hotels, etc. If you are in the business of serving the public, discrimination has no place in it.
markneil1212
boy I didn’t know gays and transgender were such crybabies. some hick pizzeria with a cross and prayer on its front door was targeted by media with a stupid hypothetical Pizza wedding. Instead of ignoring such nonsense you guys showed such thin skin geez. the difference with the vivil rights era was that it was LAW that blacks couldn’t get served!!! it was the rule not the exception. I like bdsm, but if someone didn’t want to make me a cake celebrating that lifestyle I would go somewhere else. geez. I work with lots of gay guys in graphics and they are nice guys. and I feel for them that there are those who don’t want to serve them, but hatred and crying about hoe bad America is is just stupid. They throw gays off of roofs in muslim countries. plus I don’t see you guys bitching bout the many muslim owned bakeries that turned down gay wedding cakes.