Is New York Pastor James Manning The Next Fred Phelps?

Harlem-Hate-Church-144203133420Since the death of Fred Phelps, many have wondered who might take the title of high-profile hate monger extraordinaire.

Would it be someone within the Phelps family? A devotee of Westboro Baptist? Perhaps Rush Limbaugh would crank up the crazy from 8.5 to 11?

Well Pastor James David Manning of ATLAH World Missionary Church in New York’s Harlem neighborhood is a prime contender. And we mean that in the worst possible way.

Manning got some pickup recently when he posted a sign outside his church reading “Jesus Would Stone Homos.” Yeah, he’s that kind of crazy.

In a recent interview for Vocativ, Manning lets his freak flag fly, and the sludge that expels from his mouth is nothing if not creative.

Here are some highlights:

Credit: Vocativ/Philip Montgomery

On tolerance:

“Homosexuals are the most intolerant of all people I’ve met. I’ve encountered Ku Klux Klan members that are more tolerant.”

On his enemy, the “white homo”:

“The white homo who now lives in the community—and there are a lot of them that moved up here—they brought their restaurants with them, they brought some of their lifestyle, they brought their Starbucks coffee with them… and like anybody else they prey on black men, they convert black men.”

Clarifying his stance on stoning gays:

“Anyone who promotes that as a lifestyle and tries to make it a national and international event and create warfare upon everybody else, then the appropriate response would be to stone them back to the Stone Age, or stone them back to hell.”

You can read the full bag of roasted nuts here.

In response to Pastor Manning, concerned community members have established Harlem Against Violence & Homophobia, a group who raises money for New York’s homeless and at-risk LGBT youth. You can donate here.

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  • HirsuteOne

    Although this guy is despicable, I’m quite sure that Steve Drain, the man who led the coup against Fred Phelps and took over the WBC, is the next “Fred Phelps”.

  • Stache99

    It’s too bad that he and his followers don’t use that time to go after the real problems of the black community. Like Black men making up the majority of prisons, more likely to be sent to prison, drugs, one parent households, etc.

    White gay men don’t effect you in the slightest. I think this is more about being in the public eye and of coarse the usual donations when you play the gay card.

  • Daniepwils

    Just another dumb old man…please die quickly

  • davincibarnette

    …has anyone really been wondering….??!!

  • frickeepoo

    I agree w/ you to an extent, Daniepwils; that this guy is just a dumb old man. But I get the feeling that you dismiss this guy as though he’s some nutcase yelling at the top of his lungs on a street corner – cray cray for sure, but unworthy of much of your time or attention. Don’t be fooled. The only reason we’re even hearing about this guy is because there are a LOT of people eating up his demagogic scapegoating, and that’s why this guy is not just another dumb old man; he’s a cunning dumb old man. He knows very well that his hatemongering will live on long after he drops dead.

  • Rad

    Any chance we can STOP giving this crap traction?

  • CarrollAP

    Jesus loves everyone, regardless. I don’t think this preacher is without sin, so he cannot cast a stone.

  • marks2000

    We can only hope he is the next IDIOT to spew his insane and unscientific ignorance and hate because the last nutcase that did that for years helped bring attention to the LGBT community and actually helped push the civil rights movement in their favor. Before long, marriage will be legal on the national level as in civil union. Let this idiot yap away. He is a buffoon but it sometimes takes a buffoon to bring magic for a Queen. Can a buffoon be ridden like a horse? :) Seriously, the male is insane and I am stating it as a FACT not opinion and science can support me on that.

  • Tereasa

    Why can’t we pass laws preventing idiots like this and Phelps from saying shit like this. If you say you’re going to slap the crap out of someone you can be arrested for terroristic threatening. This bullshit is worse. It insights hatred of a group of people. And these idiots say we’re intolerant. We are bulling the Christians and preventing the freedom of religion. Give me a break.

  • stvrsnbrgr

    Queerty ET AL, can we please stop buying into this unholy crap?

    Not-a-pastor (as in, Not-a-pastor Phelps…)

    Not-a-church (as in, Westboro Baptist Not-a-church…)

    Hatemonger and cult would also be suitably accurate alternatives, I think.


  • lykeitiz

    Wait until he gets to the parts in the Bible about slavery! Can’t wait to see his signs then!

  • BrandoPolo

    @Stache99: He did hit the nail on the head when he called out homos for being intolerant, just not for the right reasons nor the right messenger.

    The Jim Crow faction in the gay community is ginormous. But preferable to Manning.

  • Blackceo


    Yeah. As a gay man of color I don’t find the Jim Crow faction in the gay community any better than what Manning has to say. I can’t stand either.


    You are absolutely right. He should be mobilizing his his church members to focus on those issues that affect the Black community, and in part focusing on the policies that are created that unfairly create disparities that are cause for so many black men being in prison and disparities in drug sentencing.

  • DickieJohnson

    Just as Fred Phelps had crazy White folks behind him, this “minister” has crazy Black folks in his peanut gallery. Actually, he may be just a leetle bit more insane! And why is it none of these nutcase religious freaks don’t even know that Jesus said NOTHING about “homos”, or same-sex anything???

  • mezzacanadese

    Maybe we should not give this nutcake free rent in our heads.

  • Blackceo


    Exactly…and this is why I can’t do organized religion. I’m Catholic and have some spirituality, but don’t go to church unless its a special occasion (wedding, funeral, Christening). They havetwisted the Bible (if you even believe whats in it) and focus on parts to suit their own agenda. It is done to keep the masses in order. When you look at the history of homosexuality, it wasn’t demonized until the rise of Christianity that homosexuality became a target. In ancient Rome and ancient Greece homosexuality was accepted to some degree socially so I don’t have time to fool with them people.

  • murphy0071

    God be praised if the leader of the God Hates Fags business were in New York and not Topeka. Unfortunately the minions of Satan appear stronger in Topeka at this time. I pray to Jesus, that these haters of science and humanity instantaneously go the way of Fred Phelps and their followers stop believing in these deceivers.

  • Redpalacebulleaglesox

    Unfortunately, he is saying what more than a few in his community are thinking, which is why the United Methodist Church has such problems. Homophobia in the African American community is a dirty little secret that more than a few in that community are trying to expose. There is also a generational divide, with the youth leaving their parents congregations due to homophobia and finding welcoming congregations.

  • santosh108

    He’s gotta look at the good side – fewer unwed mothers, less unpaid child support!

  • Polaro

    Black biggots confuse me. I have to scratch my head. I just can’t figure out what kind of logic they have going on.

  • Tackle

    Funny how when Fred Phelps was doing his anti-gay thing for over 30yrs, race was “never” brought up. @Stache99: So I guess Fred Phelps and his followers should have use their time going after real problems affecting the white community. Child molestation/ Pedophilia, serial killings, shooting up schools, tax evasion, mail fraud, bank fraud, drug use: particularly pot, cocaine powder & meth, environmental pollution ect. That can cut both [email protected]Polaro: And white gay bigots and others confuse me, and have me scratching my head.

  • Stefano

    @Tackle : you are right, that can cut both ways…but bigots are bigots, no matter if they are black or white. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

  • Stache99

    @Tackle: That’s a red herring argument. Not to mention a tiny minority your mostly talking about. I’m talking about real problems like 1 out of every 3 black men being sent to prison. When you can say the same thing about whites then get back to me.

    Polaro’s point was that he doesn’t understand discrimination coming from those who should know better. Yeah, makes me scratch my head too.

  • Black Pegasus

    @Tackle: Good observations..

  • Tackle

    @Stache99: Your argument is also a red herring, and talking about a tiny minority. And the 1 out of every 3 Black men, if that is true, has nothing to do with the actual number of American men who actually commit crime, The majority of people ( men) who commit crime will never be prosecuted and sentence for those crimes commented. And since America is something like over 70% White, most likely that’s where most of the crime is coming from. Example: You can steal more money from a computer and a brief case, then from a gun. Thousands of not millions of American children are molested. But only a small number actually pay for their crime. Out of 10 women who are raped, only 1 attacker out of ten will be prosecuted and convicted. Most who drive while drunk will never get cought. The same with tax cheats internet piracy, banking and mail fraud ,downloading under age porn. Big companies with their environmental fraud and pollution, as with most “white collar crimes. And dtug use: the ONLY drugs that Blacks maybe do more than Whites would be crack cocaine. So all those other millions out there breaking the law, will never get cought. Yes you have Blacks and others doing some of these crimes. But you have many more Whites committing these crimes. And that truth will never be reflected. And about @Polaro:, I know what his point was. I was just flipping the script. And with all the discrimination that gay White men have gone through, shouldn’t they know better? @Black Pegasus: Thanks.

  • DonovanS28

    I hear you bro, but homosexual racially uneducated caucasians are no different from the heterosexual ones. Most believe the black community is the way it is because of some fault it possesses within itself. The only reason they think this is because it probably how they were raised to think or an easily accepted answer without actually trying to understand whats going on in the black community. The point I’m trying to make is I doubt you can change any of these peoples minds or enlighten them in anyway over this websites comment section.

  • Tackle

    @DonovanS28: Responding to your last commint first about changing the minds, and trying to enlighten these people. Brother I know that I cannot do that and was not trying to. I realize when dealing with [email protected], regardless of sexual orenatation, you’re dealing with people who lack the ability to use: reason,logic,common sense & rationality. So my intent was not to try to win him over, and change his mind, but rather post in the event that even if, 1 2 or even 3 young Black youths read this, when confronted with some [email protected] like this,online or in person, they can know the truth,and have ammunition to respond back with. And since I study and do research (independent)on polls, stats and surveys, that people should know that “many” times they are not an indicator of truth, but more of an indicator of power. And when you are in power, you can make polls, stats and surveys say anything you want them to say. And also I believe that in being silent, and leaving this false info to go unchallenged, is helping the oppressor, and in some way, aiding and abetting him, espically if one has knowledge otherwise. And also I use Queerty as pratice for my future blog where I will be Tackling these types of issues. And one thing I want to touch on in your first sentence, and that’s the word (uneducated.)Often times I hear people say or use uneducated or ignorant to describe people with this behavior. No. This type of behavior is evil. Pure evil…

  • BrandoPolo

    Thank you reading Stache. A minority of bigoted, usually right-wing males have and continue to be responsible for more death, destruction, and despair than any other group — the majority of serial killers, drunk drivers, drug users and abusers, alcoholics, and all sorts of unprosecuted financial crimes that have ruined lives the world over. White fascists do everything to create darkness, then concern troll about the poverty and crime that is the inevitable outcome of that darkness. Wonder why Stache never concern trolled about the white race and their problems on Fred Phelps articles, hmmm. Actually no I don’t.
    Manning is homophobe and a clown. White supremacist gay bigots are not a bit better.

  • Silent_Joe

    “Jesus would stone homos”

    Are we talking about the same Jesus who said “Let he that is without sin cast the first stone”?

  • Mezaien

    As African American, white I would thing he try to be white for whatever stupid reason. He dose very bad as a Christian.

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