After months of letting gullible reporters believe that he’s willing to soften the GOP’s fierce opposition to marriage equality, Jeb Bush has finally revealed his true colors. Unsurprisingly, they’re pretty homophobic.
In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Bush made it clear that not only does not he support marriage equality, but he also believes that opponents can choose to ignore nondiscrimination laws if they so choose.
“A big country, a tolerant country ought to be able to figure out the difference between discriminating someone because of their sexual orientation and not forcing someone to participate in a wedding that they find goes against their moral beliefs,” Bush said. “This should not be that complicated. Gosh, it is right now.”
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Of course, what makes it complicated is people choosing to ignore laws. As a reminder, Bush was quick to embrace Indiana’s right-to-discriminate law.
Bush also made it clear that he did not believe that there was a constitutional basis for marriage equality and tried to justify his belief by pointing to Democrats.
“What’s interesting is four years ago, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had the same view that I just expressed to you,” he said. “Thousands of years of culture and history is just being changed at warp speed. It’s hard to fathom why it is this way.”
The interview was just about as bad as you can imagine. That Bush gave it to the Christian Broadcasting Network, founded by the incomparable Pat Robertson, is a tip off that Bush is committed to courting the religious right base to win the nomination. He used all the best rhetoric from the 1990s to make his case.
“To imagine how we are going to succeed in our country unless we have committed family life, committed child-centered family system, is hard to imagine,” Bush argued. “We need to be stalwart supporters of traditional marriage.”
Bush is a convert to Catholicism and is pushing the John Paul II/Benedict line even as the Pope Francis is softening it. He apparently wants to outdo Rick Santorum in his appeal to conservative evangelicals.
The interview is a sign of just how out of touch Bush is with the general electorate. Polls consistently show a majority of Americans support marriage equality. Bush sounds like a throwback to his father’s era. At the same time, the likely Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, is sending a letter of support to a young lesbian couple. The interview is also a reminder of his brother’s willingness to use marriage equality as a wedge issue in the 2004 presidential campaign. Apparently, the Bush brothers don’t have a problem making us political scapegoats.
One question that is unanswered by Bush’s interview is whether his gay enablers will stick with him. Ken Mehlman, the former Republican party chair who has been a vocal supporter of marriage equality, was shepherding Bush around to big donors. It will be interesting to see if whether Bush’s true colors will have any impact on Mehlman, or if politics will trump principle.
Stache99
He’s just talking to his base.
Sweetie Pie
I cannot believe an American presidential candidate is unable to understand the difference between civil law and religious precepts
Allan O'Shea
He needs to go away!
Jerry Payney
he’s such a dumb ass.
Rick Caffey
Idiot
SteveDenver
Jeb was referred to as “the smart Bush,” which underscores two things: (1) people think his brother George W. is an imbecile, and (2) people couldn’t fathom that one family could turn out a full batch of idiots. Out of the spotlight, but equally stupid is little brother Neil Bush who presided over the Silverado Savings & Loan debacle in the mid-1980s. Millions of people lost their savings and the entire mess cost American taxpayers nearly $2 billion ($14-15 billion in 2015 dollars).
I’m wondering if Barbara Bush’s uterus somehow deprived her offspring of oxygen. They’re all stupid as cow patties.
SteveDenver
@Stache99: Jeb may indeed be “talking to his base,” but the problem is that the rest of us can hear. Just goes to prove that conservative bullshi† that tickles the home bigots, doesn’t fly with the national audience. That’s a good thing.
Dwight G Grogan
This man is an IDIOT, Wrapped in a MORON, Deep fried in STUPID!
Robby Robinson
Thanks for putting it all out there Jeb….he has no chance in hell.
Mark Reimer
#HomophobicGOPlooser
Chris L. Reynolds
Snore,this insufferable Hell of a Family!
Glücklich
He’s still got my vote as long as he chooses Michelle Bachman as his running mate and promises to appoint Pat Robertson as Secretary of State, with Ann Coulter as AG. Oh, and he has talk all folksy and mangle the English language, e.g. NOOK-yer-lur, AH-rayan….Look out cousin pee-paw! There’s bars in them hi-yills! Sar me a bar down t’holler o’er the crick!
Chuck Duncan
He’s got to blow some dog whistle to distract everyone from his 37 different answers to the Iraq question.
Craig Marker
Bigot.
Craig Marker
Will the Democrats WAKE UP IN 2016???
April Boucher
A whole family of morons.
Jeffrey Thomas
Jeb Bush – Go f*ck yourself.
Jim Dercole
Stupid fucker… That is all
Roger Honeycutt
I support him choking on his own vomit
AJ Ramos
Another A-hole !!!
Perry M. Gentry
Every day brings a new opportunity to despise a different Republican candidate. Your turn today, Bush, until one of your competitors out-stupids you. Which as a Bush is hard, I know.
Jim Langford
So he’s toast
Michael Davy
Wouldn’t get my vote
NateOcean
Just another one of the little monsters that crawled from the fetid womb of Barbara Bush.
Jesus Christ, is this woman carrying some sort of genetic defect? Or did pappy Bush spend too much time playing in the waste of a nuclear power plant?
Barb Kipper
He is a non entity.
Cam
Right about now is the time when BJ or some other defender of the right wing comes in and tries to change the topic by screaming about how Islam hates gays, or some other comment to desperately try to move the discussion away from the fact that every single Republican running for president is opposed to gay rights.
Giancarlo85
He represents everything the Republican party is about. Where are all the asskissing log cabin types to defend Jeb? Nowhere to be found. Republicans have a consistent record of failure and all their ideas are dangerous to this country. Religious liberty? How about try special protection from criticism. The religious fundamentalist wants special protection from criticism.
Dale Landefeld
well Buh-bye
Mack
Is there really any reason for gay person or really ANY minority to vote Republican? So far all the ones running for President on the “R” side have all shown they’re hatred for gays and pretty much any minority regardless of them being a minority themselves.
James Hart
Pope Francis is softening the line. I don’t think so: He’s just called gay marriage, “An idea thought up by the Evil One (Devil).” Queerty, you should do better research.
Giancarlo85
@Mack: We had one or two on here express their support for Rand Paul… Another homophobic nutcase. Gay Republicans are willing to sacrifice their own citizenship in order to support a Republican.
Curty
Moderate? Queerty keeps doing stories on Jeb. Weird. He has always been anti gay, anti marriage equality, like Mitt. No more stories on Jeb. He’s never been pro equality. Its like queerty keeps wanting him to change his mind.
Kirk Montrealer
Well, people with SEVERE PSYCHO(UN)logical issues such as himself, should not be allowed to be in politics and/ or run for Presidency. Don’t needs wackjobs making decisions for a country and its citizens.
Jess Collins
And there goes any chance of election out the window
polarisfashion
@Mack: Short answer is NO!!! Anyone who is not a rich white straight guy that votes Republican is voting against their own best interests.
Manny Yoko
ð???
enlightenone
Where are the GoProud trolls? You know who you are!
David Mitchell
No question my vote would be for anyone other than a Republican. They are such Neanderthals.
Stu Hipwell
Another Bush….another a$$hole…
Xzamilio
Just fucking vote come 2016. We had all of these batshit Republicans for the midterm elections that were certifiable, and they managed to get control of both the House and the Senate. So don’t BS and act like no one in their right mind will vote for them, because that is the truth… and unfortunately we have a lot of wrong minded people in America. Why else would half the damn population still believe the Earth was created in 6 days and people and dinosaurs lived together at one point.
Jayson A Messner
Barry Shatswell
Good, he should move to Iran. There are many people there who support his belief system.
tjr101
Where are the gay Republicans to comment when we need them? Oh right, they’re waiting for a story about Hillary or Obama to crawl out from under their rocks!
Jim Shep
FDB
Dwight
“Bush sounds like a throwback to his father’s era.”
In this case we should hope he actually is. His father, after all, served as witness at a same sex wedding.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/25/george-hw-bush-gay-wedding_n_3991292.html
Noel Hoklin
It amuses me that these bigoted bible-beaters really think they can rally the right wing enough to win an election!!! Boy, are they in for a rude awakening.
Daws
Jeb Bush Makes It Clear: He’s never going to be president but he’s going to waste millions of dollars trying.
Philip Epstein
He’s going down
Giancarlo85
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/11/jeb_bushs_damning_secret_history_partner/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jeb-bush-kept-key-roles-in-florida-firm-amid-signs-of-trouble/2015/01/19/15f336c8-9ce3-11e4-bcfb-059ec7a93ddc_story.html
Jeb’s corruption runs very deep… he’s a very moral person according to his own words, unless it has to do with his own financial dealings. If he is the nominee, all of this will come to light. Particularly his ties to “Miguel Recarey”… a guy who has connections to the mafia. If Jeb wasn’t a Bush, he would probably be on trial for corruption. And the way he mismanaged Florida is quite evident… especially with regards to medicare in that state. The state economy also struggled under his administration.
Frank Sokolowski
jwtraveler
In other words, he’s opposed to both gay marriage AND religious freedom, which is entirely consistent.
Jack Anthony Owen
He thinks like a true Bush!
Cagnazzo82
Are there any gay conservatives left who can still rationalize voting for that lunatic, worthless party that has contributed nothing but disasters, debt, and hate for the past 30 years?
What use is the republican party? The only thing they exist for is to obstruct investment in America in favor of shoveling money towards their sponsors in the energy, defense, and finance industry.
They’re a essentially a cancer, I’m afraid to say. And that’s not hyperbole. Rather an accurate identification of toxicity afflicting this country’s government.
James Decino
Do we need another Bush in the White House? Didn’t that family soil enough when they were in there before? Stay in Texas for Christ’s sake?
jason smeds
So if a baker makes a cake for an adulterer, does that mean that the baker is participating in adultery? I think not. Jeb Bush needs to sharpen his thinking skills or he will lose the primary very easily to a more able opponent.
Oh, and has anybody noticed that he’s starting to look like Barbara Bush?
lykeitiz
Or, as David Letterman put it last night……..Jeb Bush doesn’t support same sex marriages, and we don’t support same family presidencies.
Desert Boy
Jebby the Clown will NEVER be president.
GayEGO
Bye Bye Jeb! All you religious freaks are going down the hopper!
NJjoe
Never been fond of the Bush family and their politics. They do not represent of what America is supposed to be. Jeb can go pound sand in his state of Florida and hopefully a crab will crawl up his crack and take a chunk.
Clark35
@lykeitiz: I’m not a fan of the Clinton family either.
Harold Vera
Bitch please
Jason Tutt
So he supports discrimination!!!
Luke Howell
Shocker.
enlightenone
@Clark35: “I’m not a fan of the Clinton family either.”
Who are you a fan of and why?
Christopher Michael
Good for fucking him. I oppose
Rick Caffey
Tommy Ogletree
Jeb Bush makes it clear: he does not want to be President and is doing all he can to ensure that.
Bob LaBlah
Jeb Bush said something “clear”? Now theres a laugh. I ain’t voting for him nor that obviously lesbian who thinks she has a right to be president (ol’ Hillary). Those two a perfect examples of what went wrong with the country. Neither side groomed LEADERS to take over and lead the country.
My sincerest hope is the Dems will come up with an alternative that WON”T take us back to the Clinton/Bush years. I had NOTHING against Bill Clinton but simply do not want to see a situation where he has no other choice but to “back channel” for this fowl mouthed ol’ whore of a wife of his because no one will be able to stand her.
As for Bush, I honestly do think he has forgotten that he comes off to people as though he just got his ass physically beaten by his older brother every time he come on camera. Lets face it folks, his personality screams wimp. Christy’s fat ass is going to have him and Marco Rubio for lunch during the primary debates before he (Christy) drops out due to that Washington Bridgate fiasco. As for everyones favorite closeted pillow biter, Cruz, in a few weeks he is going to have no other choice but to throw in the towel due to lack of money. He is already so desperate he has to publicly accept money from the very people he claims to despise, wealth gay men. What does that tell you about how serious he is being taken?
Its a mess folks but hopefully some one will come forward worthy of the office. Problem is NO ONE seems to see that person any where.
Dino Diamantakos
Kangol
These comments made me laugh out loud.
Queerty commenters BETTA READ FOR POINTS!
Re: Jebbie, buh-bye, Felicia!
Giancarlo85
@Cagnazzo82: The Bush and Reagans had more investigations and indictments than the Harding administration! Says it all really! And all the other republicans are under suspicion or actively under investigation for corruption. Chris Christie… well, we all know what happened there. And now there is word that an investigation might occur into Scott Walker. Can republicans push someone who isn’t corrupt? Is there a such thing as a “clean republican”?
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/scott-walkers-political-record-lies-deceit-corruption-and-revenge
@Bob LaBlah: Lots of people like Hillary, so get a reality check please. She has higher approval ratings than most politicians in this country, asides from Jerry Brown.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: If something goes against someones personal moral beliefs, why should they be forced to participate?
A lot of things go against my morals (abortion, promiscuity…) and I wouldnt feel comfortable catering a party in their honor. Does that mean their wrong? Absolutely not. But, I shouldnt be forced to participate if I dont agree with it.
james_in_cambridge
@SteveDenver: “I’m wondering if Barbara Bush’s uterus somehow deprived her offspring of oxygen. They’re all stupid as cow patties.”
LMAO! I love you Steve!
james_in_cambridge
@Cagnazzo82: Well said! The modern Republican Party is indeed a cancer on the body politic.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: You’re a tool. Nobody is forcing anyone to participate in anything. It doesn’t surprised me you decided to rear your ugly republican head around here. Do you even read what I write or do you respond with gibberish? And how moral is Jeb anyways? He takes money from people linked with the mob.
Get a fucking reality check please.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: And yep, all you do is make excuses for the stupid shit republicans do. That is your TRACK RECORD. Take your bigotry back to the Newsmax forums please.
Cam
@wagnerwallace: said… “If something goes against someones personal moral beliefs, why should they be forced to participate?”
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I love how “Moral Belief” has become the code word for bigotry. The exact same argument was used to defend businesses not wanting to serve blacks.
If their “Moral Belief” doesn’t allow them to serve the public in accordance with the law, then nobody is forcing them to get a business license. If that is the game they want to play, then lets turn it around on them, perhaps cities that have the “Moral Belief” that bigotry is wrong, should not allow people who are members of religions that preach bigotry to own a business. I mean hey, that is the cities moral belief right?
wagnerwallace
@Cam: Being Black is totally different from being gay. Don’t be silly – you know that.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: Wow. I couldn’t expect a response from you that was any less articulate …
All I’m saying is, whether we like it or not, some people have their beliefs. People have had these beliefs for centuries and we can’t expect them to change their whole religion within 10 years. Religion may not be important to you, but it is important to billions of other people. It may be silly to you, but it’s not to billions of others. And whether you’d like to believe it or not, America is a Christian nation that founded on its teachings.
I just think we should let acceptance happen organically instead of forcing it on people.
And with that said – NO I am not a fan of Jeb Bush. I actually lean more toward Rand Paul, but he has an “R” next to his name so I’m sure you hate him with passion too lol
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: You have no sense of articulation. You have no sense of evidence or proof to back up your ignorant arguments.
I don’t care what “beliefs” some people have. People had beliefs that slavery and segregation were right too. Does that make them right? I’m not expecting anything from anyone. I know there are many stupid people… many of these stupid people vote republican.
“And whether you’d like to believe it or not, America is a Christian nation that founded on its teachings. ”
Absolutely wrong. America is NOT a Christian nation. It is a secular nation and the Treaty of Tripoli established that. This is NOT a Christian nation at all. And the basis for law in this country has its roots in Roman governance and law.
You are intellectually dishonest and you don’t have an understanding about the history of this country. Keep subscribing to the ignorance.
Rand Paul is a fucking disaster. And no, it has nothing to do with an “R” next to his name. It has to do with his views being disastrous and disgusting for this country.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: Oh really, praytell… tell us how it is “different”? You have your head further up your ass than I thought. And now you reveal you’re supporting Rand Paul (someone with idiotic economic views and some disastrous social policy).
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: That line that you’re referring to in the Treaty of Tripoli is referencing the government and not the culture. America has always been described as a Christian nation.
“One nation under God…”
“In God we trust…”
And what’s the problem with it being a Christian nation? The world has a Jewish nation, it has a Muslim nation. It has Buddhist nations. What’s the issue with there being a Christian one?
And I think we can all agree that slavery was wrong and is an embarrassment to our nations history. But, the topic at hand – people being forced to cater events that they dont agree with – isnt remotely comparable to slavery and is a disservice to even attempt compare.
How is being black different from being gay? Do you really need an explanation for that? Okay…
Have there ever been “heterosexual only” or “gay only” water fountains, diners, buses, schools, etc.?
You will never and have never seen gays snatched away from their families for the sole purpose of division.
Has there ever been a homosexual slave trade?
Us gays have never & will never be considered non-citizens by the laws of the US like blacks have.
Have gays ever been seen as property or cattle like blacks were during slavery?
I could go on and on. The comparison is just ignorant.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: You seem to subscribe to a distorted sense of reality. This isn’t a christian nation. Keep on dreaming.
“In god we trust” was added in the 1950s. What’s the problem? It is a secular nation with people of different religions. Learn the facts please. This is a western country. Not a developing country in the middle east.
Your argument is embarrassing and disgusting. You have no understanding of history.
“But, the topic at hand – people being forced to cater events that they dont agree with ”
Err wrong. Nobody is being forced to do anything.
“Have there ever been “heterosexual only” or “gay only” water fountains, diners, buses, schools, etc.?”
Weak argument. Gays have been persecuted for centuries. Gays have been subjected to brutal murders. Your weak ass argument has no basis in reality. You just regurgitate what you are told by the republican party.
“Has there ever been a homosexual slave trade?”
Stupid argument again. Homosexuals have been brutalized and killed for centuries.
“Us gays have never & will never be considered non-citizens by the laws of the US like blacks have.”
Don’t speak for other gay people, you ignorant imbecile. I am also an ethnic minority. You dont’ know shit.
“The comparison is just ignorant.”
You are the one that is ignorant, stupid, moronic and you have no understanding of reality. This is why you’re a republican thug.
Giancarlo85
Western countries are NOT christian nations. They are secular nations. People of DIFFERENT religions live in these countries. Your views are discriminatory in their very nature. You have no argument and your self depreciating disgusting arguments about gay people says it all. You are a self hating prick who votes republican because you’re ashamed of your sexuality. And don’t you DARE ever try to speak for other gay people. The overwhelming majority of gay people don’t agree with your trash.
Gay people have been subjected to horrific discrimination just as bad as black people have been. Don’t even try to differentiate, you ignorant hick.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: Um, thanks for that wildly immature assault on my character.
For the record, I’m not a “self-hater”. I’m very happily gay and in a wonderful relationship with a beautiful man.
Please tell me instances where us gays have been subjected to horrific discrimination that is comparable to blacks? Unlike you, I’d really like to be educated if I’m wrong.
You say the “overwhelming majority” of gays disagree with what I’m saying, but why should I care? I’m my own person, with my own opinions. I don’t need anyone to think for me, I think for myself. Not everyone has herd mentality, not everyone can be called a sheep.
It’s so easy to be “gay and proud” when you have the “overwhelming majority” on your side, isnt it? Try standing up for what you actually believe in for a change.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: You do a lot of name calling – “this is weak”, “this is stupid”, “this is ignorant”, “this is moronic”
But you dont state any facts or give any examples.
So please, give exact instances where gays in America were subjected to the same horrific discrimination that is comparable to blacks.
I’ll wait…
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: It’s a completely true description of your character.
You have no understanding of reality. I don’t care about you being in a “wonderful relationship” (you could be lying about that too like the rest of your vitriol and lies).
Gays were sent to death camps just like the Jews during WWII in Nazi Germany. You are highly uneducated and ignorant.
You are a republican and you are a self hater. You do not think for yourself. You let a political party do the thinking for you. You are guilty of hypocrisy because you’re being a sheep.
“Try standing up for what you actually believe in for a change.”
Why don’t you? Instead of repeating more vitriol and hatred from the right wing?
@wagnerwallace: What facts and examples have you given? None that I have seen.
“ive exact instances where gays in America were subjected to the same horrific discrimination that is comparable to blacks.”
I gave exact instances including horrific murders, police brutality and vicious attacks. Do you not pay attention to the facts?
You are typical of an American right winger. You are incapable of forming a coherent thought.
Giancarlo85
It’s funny this guy says I need to “stand up for what I believe in”… when he just repeats the same lies from the republican party. He’s a talking head. He repeats what he is told.
Funny he demands independent thought, when he has demonstrated none of his own.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: You havent given any exact instances. Instead, you’ve kept it very broad and generalized, with a few personal insults thrown in there, like a child would do. Any mistreatment against gays in AMERICA (not Nazi Germany) have been isolated incidents.
Lynching of blacks used to be a societal norm not even 100 years ago. The same cannot be said for the gay community. So please shut the fuck up. I’m done having this discussion with you.
Cam
@wagnerwallace: said… “Being Black is totally different from being gay. Don’t be silly – you know that.”
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That is the typical line from somebody who cannot defend their opinion. Your predecessors used the exact same arguments to fight against blacks getting rights, women getting rights, to prevent children from working in factories, to prevent Latinos or Asians getting rights, etc…
Bigotry is bigotry, the fact that you cannot defend yourself doesn’t change that.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: You should shut your fucking mouth you ignorant naive dumbass. Anti gay crimes including murders have gone of for decades. There have been many high profile legal cases in regards to this. Stonewall was a reaction to decades of police brutality and oppression. This mistreatment was not isolated. And before the 1970s, you fucking tool, gay people were subject to torture because their sexuality was viewed as a mental illness. The same lunatics you support view you as having a mental illness. Isolated my ass. You are nothing more than a phony!
You shut your fucking right wing douchebag mouth. I have had enough of the constant verbal diarrhea. You haven’t supported shit… Yet you sit on your pedestal and claim I need to provide proof? You are a damn idiot and I am done with you!
Giancarlo85
@Cam: This backstabbing tool can’t even support his own arguments… Yet he will demand you provide him with proof. I have posted links in this article exposing Republican ties to gangsters. And yet he talks all moral and shit. How about the Republican ties to the American gambling tycoon who has links with the Chinese triads and possibly the Japanese Yakuza?
These self righteous Republicans are deep in their own hypocritical lying shit.
Bauhaus
@wagnerwallace:
“A lot of things go against my morals (abortion, promiscuity…) and I wouldnt feel comfortable catering a party in their honor.”
You would be providing a service you went into business to provide, not catering a party in anybody’s honor. See the difference?
You don’t believe in abortion? Don’t have one.
You don’t believe in promiscuity? Don’t be promiscuous.
Certainly, your beliefs are yours, but in commerce, you can’t pick and choose whom you want to serve, and for good reason.
wagnerwallace
@Cam: Actually I did defend myself a few comments down. I gave a list as to why being black isnt the same as being gay, but I’ll do it again.
1. Have there ever been “heterosexual only” or “gay only” water fountains, diners, buses, schools, etc.?
2. Gays have never been snatched away from their families at birth for the sole purpose of division like blacks have.
3. Have their ever been a homosexual slave trade like there has been for blacks?
4. Have gays ever been considered non-citizens by the laws of the US like blacks have?
5. Have gays ever been seen as cattle or treated like property like blacks have?
Also, your skin color is innate and immutable. There’s no staying in the closet. You cant change your race like many change their sexual orientation. I just dont see a comparison between being gay and being black.
And I’m sure that most, if not all, blacks would agree that being gay is not the same as being black. I would love to hear a black gay guys opinion on this.
wagnerwallace
**3. Has there ever been a homosexual slave trade like there has been for blacks?
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: You should use your beloved Obamacare to get on some psychiatric meds. I’m getting tourette and schizo vibes from your posts…
You say gays have been subject to hate crimes and there have been high profile legal cases. Exactly – my point is proven. Lynching and the mistreatment of blacks werent considered crimes and rarely ever went to trial, and if they did they usually lost. All because it was a societal norm.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: You are a nasty, angry hypocrite with a nasty disposition. You only seem to care enough for yourself. YOu have been extremely brainwashed by Fox News and the republican party. YOu are a person who lives on the republican party line. You do not think on your own. You only repeat what your party line has said.
I am not a democrat or a republican. I think both parties are controlled by corporations. Republicans are deeper in the pockets of corporations, especially the corrupt liar Rand Paul.
Gays have been readily subjected to hate crimes and murders, especially in the past and faced rampant police brutality. They were also considered mentally ill and institutionalized. Your republican pary, RAnd Paul included, thinks homosexuality is a mental illness STILL.
You said you were done responding to me, yet here you are again… posting your same old bullshit about your stupid ideas on race.
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: Your questions are fucking stupid. Gays have been executed killed and murdered in the past. They were subjected to all sorts of crimes. YOu are asking the wrong questions.
“1. Have there ever been “heterosexual only” or “gay only” water fountains, diners, buses, schools, etc.?”
In the past gay men were deeply in the closet.
“2. Gays have never been snatched away from their families at birth for the sole purpose of division like blacks have.
3. Have their ever been a homosexual slave trade like there has been for blacks?”
Gay people, however, have been subjected to electro-shock therapy and inhumane abuse at the hands of mental health officials prior to the 1970s. Many of these ended up in death. Gays have also been killed and lynched. This is fact. Learn how to ask more specific questions instead of relying on stupidities.
“4. Have gays ever been considered non-citizens by the laws of the US like blacks have?”
Abso-fucking-lutely. And this is the case right now. In fact, blacks are protected from discrimination in the workplace, while gays are not. Gays lack many protections in many states and are in fact discriminated often. They are treated differently than other citizens and face a significant disadvantage.
A gay black person would just smack you in the face.
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5. Have gays ever been seen as cattle or treated like property like blacks have?”
Yes. Actually they have been in the past and sex slavery does exist and has existed for centuries. It is still a major problem today!
Giancarlo85
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/03/rand-paul-gay_n_6999698.html
YOur man Rand Paul thinks you have a mental disease and should be committed to an institution. He also thinks you’re a threat to the entire country. I’m done with you fucking gay republicans. YOu people are lying tools… you are willing to sell yourselves out for false ideals. Libertarian bullshit… all the same myths.
james_in_cambridge
@Giancarlo85: Well said guys! Wagner is just another GOP tool who sides with the people who would jail him if they could because he loves money and hates the poor. Despite what he says, he probably hates himself as well; I doubt there is a gay Republican out there who doesn’t despise himself. He’s a worthless idiot…don’t waste your breath on him.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: well I’ve been gay my entire llife and I’ve never been discriminated against because of it. No one has ever tried to lynch me and I don’t know anyone who has been forced into a slave trade, which leaves me to believe it rarely happens.
You have a totally distorted view of the world. The gay experience is nowhere near the same as the black experience, and I say that as a gay white Republican.
Keep your views on the Queerty blog, because you might get “gay bashed” in real life with such radical & over-the-top opinions.
wagnerwallace
@Giancarlo85: And here’s the Black opinion on the comparison from a Black blog. It also has over 100 comments. So I don’t think it’s me that the Blacks would smack in the face.
http://madamenoire.com/124585/why-gay-is-not-the-new-black/
Giancarlo85
@wagnerwallace: A “black blog” with over “100 comments” has nothing to do with reality. That article is garbage. Maybe that stupid moronic article should look at a certain civil rights figure known as “Bayard Rustin” who was also a major LGBT advocate.
@wagnerwallace: You are the one with a distorted view of the world. Kiddo, I live in the REAL WORLD. In the rest of the world, you are viewed as an EXTREMIST, like ISIL. In every other developed country, your viewpoints are viewed as FRINGE EXTREMIST. You’ve never been discriminated against? And what does that prove? Does anyone give a crap about your personal perspectives? Gay people have been discriminated, attacked and even killed for who they are. And I don’t care what the fuck you know or don’t know. You don’t seem to know much to begin with.
You are demented and all your views are messed up.
“The gay experience is nowhere near the same as the black experience, and I say that as a gay white Republican.”
Incorrect. It is totally the same, and since you are a “gay white republican” you have no credibility in anything related to this. By the way, I say that as someone who is gay, leftist and an ethnic minority.
“Keep your views on the Queerty blog, because you might get “gay bashed” in real life with such radical & over-the-top opinions.
Oh I’m so sorry… I didn’t realize I needed to keep my views to myself because some closeted asshole like you is offended. A “gay white republican”… could you be anymore of a walking contradiction?
Your views don’t match up with reality, and most people in other developed countries would just laugh at you. People in Germany, Spain, Holland, Britain… they would all laugh at you for how much of an extremist you are. You make Marine Le Pen look like a moderate.
Giancarlo85
And now you’re saying I should get bashed because of my political views (which are very lined up with the whole fucking world). I’m sorry that I don’t see everything from American eyes with that American exceptionalist bullshit.
“with such radical & over-the-top opinions.”
And this is the most hilarious part. If you want disgusting and over the top opinions look at yourself. A gay republican… what the fuck is that? Is that like a Jew who voted for Hitler? Basically the same!