Katie Couric was schooled by transgender actress Laverne Cox and transgender reality star/model Carmen Carerra on her daytime talk show Katie Monday when she began asking invasive questions about the women’s genitalia.
Couric introduced Carerra as being “born a man and that’s why she’s on our show.” Once Carerra had taken her seat, Couric asked her about transitioning from male to female.
“Your private parts are different now, aren’t they?” she inquired.
Carrera responded by shushing Couric. “I don’t want to talk about it,” she said. “It’s really personal.” Then she explained that there is much more to her than what’s between her legs.
Couric said she hoped she hadn’t offended Carrera, only to then ask the same question to Cox minutes later.
Cox joined the panel during the show’s second segment. About halfway through her interview, Couric brought up genitalia again. But Cox wasn’t having one of it. Said she:
I do feel there is a preoccupation with that. The preoccupation with transition and surgery objectifies trans people. And then we don’t get to really deal with the real lived experiences. The reality of trans people’s lives is that so often we are targets of violence. We experience discrimination disproportionately to the rest of the community. Our unemployment rate is twice the national average; if you are a trans person of color, that rate is four times the national average. The homicide rate is highest among trans women. If we focus on transition, we don’t actually get to talk about those things.
This shut Couric up. She replied with a simple, “That was very well put,” before bidding her guests farewell and the show cut to commercial.
Watch video of the two interviews below.