Kevin Spacey, long rumored to be in the closet, has come out as gay. But that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
The famously private Oscar winner addressed his sexuality in a tweet after fellow actor Anthony Rapp accused Spacey of untoward sexual advances when Rapp was just 14 years old. Spacey was 26.
Rapp said he attended a party at Spacey’s New York City apartment in 1986 when the actors were both appearing on Broadway. He alleges that Spacey physically picked him up at the end of the night and “made a sexual advance” after placing him onto his bed.
Speaking to Buzzfeed, Rapp explained that he’s sharing his story “not to simply air a grievance, but to try to shine another light on the decades of behavior that have been allowed to continue because of many people, including myself, being silent.”
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Rapp added that his “stomach churns” to this day when he sees Spacey. “I still to this day can’t wrap my head around so many aspects of it,” he said. “It’s just deeply confusing to me.”
Here’s how Rapp tells it, via Buzzfeed:
“My memory was that I thought, Oh, everybody’s gone. Well, yeah, I should probably go home,” Rapp said. Spacey, he recalled, “sort of stood in the doorway, kind of swaying. My impression when he came in the room was that he was drunk.” Rapp doesn’t remember Spacey saying anything to him. Instead, Rapp said, “He picked me up like a groom picks up the bride over the threshold. But I don’t, like, squirm away initially, because I’m like, ’What’s going on?’ And then he lays down on top of me.”
“He was trying to seduce me,” Rapp said. “I don’t know if I would have used that language. But I was aware that he was trying to get with me sexually.”
After the story broke, Spacey addressed the allegations head-on in a tweet, expressing “respect and admiration” for Rapp, but no memory of the incident.
However, Spacey wrote that “if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior.”
He went on to address the rumors surrounding his sexuality:
“I know that there are stories out there about me and that some have been fueled by the fact that I have been so protective of my privacy. As those closest to me know, in my life I have had relationships with both men and women. I have loved and had romantic encounters with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man. I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behavior.”
— Kevin Spacey (@KevinSpacey) October 30, 2017
Rapp, who has not yet responded to Spacey’s tweet, added on Twitter:
I came forward with my story, standing on the shoulders of the many courageous women and men who have been speaking out 1/3
— Anthony Rapp (@albinokid) October 30, 2017
to shine a light and hopefully make a difference, as they have done for me. 2/3
— Anthony Rapp (@albinokid) October 30, 2017
Everything I wanted to say about my experience is in that article, and I have no further comment about it at this time.
— Anthony Rapp (@albinokid) October 30, 2017
Stache
I have no doubt it happened. Not accepting yourself by staying deep in the closet f*cks you up. No surprise this usually effects Republicans most.
WeHoGuy69
Being gay and in the closet has nothing to do with being a pedophile.
leobaga
Those Democrats who are the most politically active and the most ardent of Leftist are the most corrupt and hypocritical human beings on Earth.
Kieran
Harvey Weinstein wasn’t in the closet and he’s not Republican. He’s a flaming liberal democrat. I can’t think of a more f*cked up sexual predator then he is.
Heywood Jablowme
@Kieran: Nobody voted for Weinstein for anything.
You voted for that fat orange traitor in the White House, who bragged about p*ssy-grabbing and is certainly never going to volunteer to go to “rehab” for it.
EvonCook
Yea, Republicans do have a special problem with hypocrisy, but let’s not jump on the Salem witch hunts all over again, or the supposed daycare molestation frenzy of a few years back. Grow up people. Sex hysterics exist in our community too.
OzJosh
Before everyone works themselves into paroxysms of ecstatic outrage, can we stop for a moment to at least consider that a) many 14-year-olds can easily look 18 or 19 or even older, b) Rapp was at a party at which everyone else was clearly adult, c) it seems to have been a fairly straightforward sexual advance, with no suggestion of coercion or abuse. I don’t much admire Spacey for being so cowardly about his sexuality all these years, but give the guy a break.
WeHoGuy69
Why should we give him a break? Rapp was a child.
Your excuses for him are gross – though I’m sure a few priests would believe them.
Trampsi
This is not pedophilia. We don’t need to make excuses. You aren’t supposed to go to parties when you’re a child.
Heywood Jablowme
At the time, Rapp and Spacey were both appearing in Broadway shows. Broadway is a tight-knit community where everyone knows who is who. It’s extremely unlikely that Spacey didn’t know the kid was 14.
tdh1980
As an actor myself who’s worked with several child performers over the past thirteen years, I can attest to the fact that EVERYONE is invited to attend production events, and NEVER in my experience has a single adult whom I’ve known personally sexually assaulted a minor. These usually are cast parties, opening night receptions, and galas fit for the entire family — not wild drunken orgies. If Spacey stepped out of line, and I do believe he did because he’s always struck me as a creeper, it’s because he’s a pervert — which is a totally separate issue from being gay.
EvonCook
Wow, What a lot of hate and hysteria. Grow up people, in most parts of the civilized world a 14 year old is legal and certainly able! Years ago, many years ago and how many of you would not regret something in your past? AND, nothing seems to have occurred beyond the approach. This Rapp guy must need attention badly or was really out for some kind of sick revenge knowing that the media and sex phobics would jump all over this to try to ruin a career before anything was even proven. Spacey has handled it sensitively and straightforwardly.
Heywood Jablowme
@EvonCook: “in most parts of the civilized world a 14 year old is legal….”
How is the age of consent even relevant in THIS case? The kid didn’t consent.
Anyway – seriously? Name a country in Europe where the age of consent is 14. Canada? Nope. Japan? Nope. Australia? Nope. Maybe South Africa and Chile – I don’t think it’s 14. And that’s about it for the “civilized world.”
(Brazil certainly doesn’t count as part of the “civilized world”; even Billy Budd probably wouldn’t contend that, lol.)
EvonCook
Thanks Heywood. Good point. Here are European countries with 14 (or 15) age of consent: Albania, Andorra, Austria, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech (15), Denmark (15), Estonia, France (15), Germany, Greece (15), Hungry, Iceland (15), Italy, Liechtenstein, Macedonia, Monaco (15), Montenegro, Poland (15), Portugal, Romania (13*), San Morino, Slovakia (15), Sweden (15). Almost ALL others are 16.
EvonCook
Further Heywood, the accusation was nothing more than an approach and attempt at seduction, NOT a sex act, so you are right, age of consent had little to do with what happened here.
EvonCook
More facts about the arbitrary age of consent:
The age of consent in Canada is 16.
All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18.
The age of consent in Mexico is complex. Typically, Mexican states have a “primary” age of consent (which may be as low as 12), and sexual conduct with persons below that age is always illegal…These laws are situational and are subject to interpretation.
The ages of consent in the countries of Central America range from 14 to 18.
mhoffman953
@EvonCook
You’re nuts. I don’t care what the age of consent is in other countries. Those are not the laws in the US. If you want to divert to that defense, then I guess if a guy stones a woman to death, it’s ok but somewhere in the world that’s legal. You’re using potato logic
Plus Anthony Rapp never consented. These laws are not subject to interpretation. It’s cut and dry. I think you secretly wish the age of consent was lowered because you have a sick fetish
OzJosh
It wasn’t a gala event or an official cast party, it was a private gathering at Spacey’s apartment. And Rapp wasn’t merely there – alone, unchaperoned, after midnight – he was hanging out in Spacey’s bedroom after most of the guest had left. At the very least, Rapp, knowingly or unknowingly, placed himself in a situation likely to be misconstrued. To characterise Spacey has some vile pedo predator on the basis of this story is ridiculous.
Eldred
And just like that, no matter if true or false, you have people ready to whip out their pitch-forks.
EvonCook
Exactly. Even our community has its narrow minded hysterics and sex phobic crazies if you haven’t noticed before this.
chryso
Whaaaa this is awesome ! He is actually deflecting the unwanted attention about a potential past misdeed, with a coming out attention so people will focus more on this ! This is brilliant !
He really became his House of Cards character to attain this level of cynicism !
Im admirative (this isnt ironic).
EvonCook
Sorry, I don’t buy that. He faced it straight on and came clean in case you didn’t want to hear it.
alfred
Pulling a bryan singer; deflecting assault claims by coming out. Like Singer, also has to throw in the ‘relationships’ with women in there too (cough, bullshit, cough). But although I dont like the langue of “I now CHOOSE to live as a gay man”, atleast he has uttered the word gay unlike ‘bisexual’ bryan. Mr Singer must be shitting himself now! These lads are getting brave. I cant wait for Singer’s comeuppance
BigG
Kevin is a coward, period.
EvonCook
And you are pathetic and idiotic for over reacting.
Jack Meoff
‘I have loved and had romantic encounters with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man.’ There’s that word choose again as though your sexuality is a choice.
When are these moron celebrities who hide in the closet going to stop using that word when they finally decide to come out. Reinforcing the the idea that we make a choice to be gay is a very negative concept to be putting out there.
Jaxton
He’s bisexual but now chooses the homosexual alternative of bisexuality as a lifestyle choice?
Donston
Your “lifestyle” is a choice. Being gay-leaning or straight-leaning is not a choice. In the realm of orientation that’s not strictly straight or gay only a tiny percentage of men actually have genuine, sustained and substantial attraction to and desire and passion for men and women. Just be okay with that Brian. Also, Spacey cleverly used his words. He never said he was attracted to women, just that he’s had relationships with women, which was likely decades ago. His attractions, passions and romantic satisfaction all lean greatly towards males. There’s no choice to that. However, his decision to remain in a glass closet for over decade and continue to perpetuate gay-shame was his choice.
DuMaurier
Bad way to phrase it, but if you’re bisexual there is a legitimate issue of ‘choice’ involved, consistent with your sexual orientation.
Unlike a gay man who ‘chooses’ to marry a woman, raise children and hide and repress his true self.
Donston
There is a fraction of men who have legitimate, substantial and sustained sexual attractions, passions, romantic interest and satisfaction with either men or women. But having to truly “choose” is typically driven by contradiction in ones orientation (aka having more sexual attraction and passion for one gender but having a difficult time developing romantic connections with that gender. And typically, those people at some point simply get bored having sex with and relationships with the gender they lack genuine and sustained passion and desire for, though if they have an “open relationship”, which is often the case in Hollywood, they are typically cool for the long run) or, more often than not, it’s choice driven by sociology. This is why many gay-leaning men “choose” to hide behind bi or remain closeted while maintaining a mostly straight social image.
It’s also a much easier “choice” if your attractions veer greatly towards very young people or if you’re obsessed with straight-identifying men or if you consistently contend with religious guilt or you contend with extreme internalized homophobia and/or if you feel your livelihood depends on a hetero image. You can’t truly build a life with someone if you want them to remain under 20 forever or if you’re strictly “dating” guys who see themselves as straight, and it’s more difficult (though not impossible) to have a healthy relationship if you’re overly concerned with perception and how it might affect your employment and status, and you definitely can’t have a healthy gay relationship if you inherently think being gay is wrong/you resent gay men.
For me, it wasn’t so much of a “choice” as much as something that was practical and made sense and part of my natural maturation. With no aspects of my orientation being exclusively gay but with them all leaning towards gay, wanting a straight life in any way would have been purely driven by hetero-normalcy and self-hate. But I don’t contend with internalized homophobia. I’m not a megalomaniac. I don’t care about hetero-normalcy. I’m not famous. And I’m attracted to men of who identify as whatever orientation and of all ages (though not as young as 14). So, the “choice” became pretty easy.
EvonCook
Agreed that sexuality is not a choice, but coming and being out is certainly a choice. Sad everyone wants to pile on the hate over innuendo and a simple accusation.
leobaga
What kind of parent allows their 14 year old child to go to a party a 26 year old actor is throwing? A libbie, that’s what kind.
BigWill
How you feeling about Josh Duggars these days?
EvonCook
Obviously a Trump voter here who swallows and uses anything to furtehr their agenda.
leobaga
Polanski must be laughing, “See it’s everyone in Hollywood, not just me”.
tham
We know Trump is…
mhoffman953
Kevin Spacey can spin it however he wants (he doesn’t remember, he was drunk which he seems to remember, he’s battling with being in the closet, etc) but it doesn’t change the fact that he hit on a 14 year-old boy
I initially seen these rumors on 4chan about 3 weeks ago because there are pictures floating around of Kevin Spacey at a party feeling up a guy’s ass, along with those photos were rumors that he was “too friendly” with the young people throughout his career
Creeps in the comments here are trying to justify it by saying he might’ve looked older than 14 or that there were adults at the party. None of those are valid reasons to give him a pass to put a teenager in his bed forcefully
Hollywood is loaded with sexual deviants, rapists, and pedophiles
Heywood Jablowme
And 4chan is loaded with racists and homophobes and Nazis. Oh what a surprise that YOU hang out there.
Stache
Anytime he brings up a link it’s to a far right Koo Koo sight. I’ve called it before.
mhoffman953
@HeywoodJablowme & @Stache
I’m talking about the TV and Movie board on 4chan. I don’t think either of you have actually visited the site if you think every board on the site is loaded with “Nazis”
But nice way to deflect and defend a man who tried to rape a child
Juanjo
Miss Hoffman – we all know why you hang out on 4chan and it is not Hollywood gossip. 4chan is full of sexual deviants, rapists, and pedophiles. But you know that, don’t you?
mhoffman953
@Juanjo
Glad we can pinpoint which users on here are sympathizers with Kevin Spacey because they’re the ones who like to deflect and make excuses for a grown man sexually abusing a child
EvonCook
Hope you can grow up and get over the reality of life, not to mention the arbitrary, restrictive and sex-phobic age of consent.
Heywood Jablowme
@Herr Hoffman: Um, where am I “making excuses” for Spacey? I’ve made several comments in this thread and not one of them is pro-Spacey.
mhoffman953
@HeywoodJablowme
It’s deflection. Out of the 4 short paragraphs which I wrote, the only thing you clung to was 4chan where I stated the rumors began originated, which ultimately were proven to be true.
Besides, 4chan isn’t loaded with “homophobes and Nazis” as you allege. You must be unaware of the lgbt board ( /lgbt/ ) and the handsome men boards ( /hm/ ). I highly doubt you’ll find Nazis there. But we’re getting off topic because you had to derail the conversation by crying about 4chan
daveinUK
Awww that’s so cute! Kevin Spacey actually thought he was IN the closet…
Kangol
He was outed years ago in the tabloids. I remember seeing the pictures of him hugging and kissing a guy. His closet has always been a glass one. The pedophilia allegation is really disturbing, though, and I don’t doubt Anthony Rapp’s account of it.
Jaxton
Kevin Spacey just said that he chooses to live as a gay man now even though he is also attracted to women and is bisexual.
He chose.
1EqualityUSA
NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMjasonBrianJaxtonNOMNOMNOM.
Jaxton
Face it – bisexual men are resented by liberal women because it destroys feminism. This drives such men into the gay lifestyle where they are more accepted.
Xzamilloh
Yeah, you’re talking out of your butt, and even if that were the case, that’s not what this particular instance is about.
1EqualityUSA
NOM talking points do come from that orifice.
Billy Budd
Here in Brazil you can FOC 14 year olds, as long as it is consensual. Therefore Spacey was wrong even by our standards.
Donston
Oh, Jaxton/Brian/Billy Budd etc. please shut up. This is so not time for your promotion of gay-shame and “female Liberals are horrible” rants. If Spacey wanted to be with a woman he would be with a woman. Many gay-leaning men choose to be with women, especially ones with money and fame. Also, Spacey never said he was attracted to women, just that he has had relationships with women. His gay-shame has been obvious for over a decade.
Heywood Jablowme
Why do you always brag about that perverted feature of Brazil like it’s a GOOD thing?
Stache
Ha. Like you need to even ask. Billy Budd says it proudly with a gleam in his eye.
EvonCook
Wrong again, Spacey did not “FOC” a 14 year old. Hysterics, hysterics and more hysterics.
THAT Steve
I’m a smidge older than Spacey and when I was fourteen, there was a dynamic where teens first experiences did come from much older gay men. It was never healthy but caused by the lack of community and was very often the only outlet for young men learning at least the physicality of being gay. It’s probably how Spacey learned. We’re more open as a culture now and younger gay friends’ experiences show that dynamic is pretty much a thing of the past. Spacey drunkenly reverting to this is understandable but the forceful nature Capp describes is not…
EvonCook
Yea, and essentially Rapp made it clear it was not consensual and nothing further happened. By the way, I think it was a lot healthier when we were first with older guys than the valley girl and assimilationist mentality that now prevails with gay youth. And also I would not want to depend on the memory and impressions of a 14 year old, what 31 years later. Sorry, but this is much ado.
tham
God when I was 16, I’d lie my ass off. This was before the internet (yeah I know…how did we live), all you had was personal ads in newspapers, and cruising the adult bookstore (if they didn’t card you that is)…
I’d sneak in, tell them I was 18…and let them blow me. At least 10 guys committed a crime without knowing it.
Hell, I don’t think I hook up with someone my own age until…college. And pretty much all the gays friends my age have pretty much the same stories
RIGay
It sounds like, other than drunken, romantic overtures, there was nothing sexual about it. If there was molestation or more, then there could be something here.
Not to redirect any sense of blame, but what was an unsupervised teen doing at an adult party in the first place?
EvonCook
Thank you foir some rare common sense here.
tham
It makes my head explode…
And for any future parents reading this “This is why you don’t let you 14 year old party hop in NYC by themselves”
DCguy
A few things.
1. Spacey has attacked the lgbt community for decades for even suggesting he was gay, NOW he wants cover so comes out to deflect the real story that he attacked a 14 year old boy.
2. He claims he did it when he was drunk, well…he wasn’t drunk when he INVITED the 14 year old boy over to his house was he?
3. To the sick people on here trying to excuse Spacey by claiming that SOME people look older than their age…….Rapp was 14 years old. HERE is a picture of Rapp two years later when he was 16, he STILL looks like a child. So nice try. Spacey went after a child and you are trying to defend it.
http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38700000/Adventures-In-Babysitting-1987-anthony-rapp-38748405-630-350.jpg
EvonCook
Grow up DCguy. Stop the hysterics and phobia.
Donston
I’ve always resented Spacey. He has always come off as a very old-school, self-hating, megalomaniac faag. However, even I’m disappointed by this, despite having read and heard rumors about him pushing up on many guys, being aggressively “touchy-feely” and using his fame and money as a bait and switch for guys looking for a come-up (pretty much the things Wienstien has been accused of). I don’t care how long ago it was or how drunk he supposedly was he was a cultured 26 year old. There is no excuse for hitting on a 14 year old. Not only that but he was pretty physical with his advances. And instead of coming off contrite he uses coming out as a “man who has chosen to live a gay lifestyle” as a cover and a diversion and pretty much dismisses the accusation as, “I don’t remember but sorry if I did”. That response was extremely lame and distasteful.
Beyond it being about power and money, I do wonder just how much of this a generational thing. There is a greater likelihood of men who are 40+ to contend with internalized homophobia and also to have an obsession with males who are 14-20 and/or men who identify as “straight”. And almost all of the men who have recently gotten accused of doing stuff like this to other guys are either closeted (to whatever degree) or they perpetuate some level of gay-shame. There is definitely some gap here. Still, that doesn’t take away from this being about Spacey’s behavior alone.
EvonCook
What ever happened to “innocent until poven guilty”? What ever happened to common sense? What ever happened to defense against rumor mongering and unproven accusations? What ever happened to forgiveness and honesty? Seems they all went out the window with sex phobia in the air.
Heywood Jablowme
“I’m sorry, Mr. Spacey, but your application to join the gay community at this time has been denied.”
“You’ve been voted off the islands—both Fire and Key West.”
“You may apply again 57 years from now.”
– DAN SAVAGE
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
EvonCook
Dan Savage is an opinionated and self-important jerk who really just wanted to assimulate and act out the heterosexual lifestyle.
lauraspencer
I first heard about Kevin’s issues with underage guys back in 1993 when I worked as an assistant at a talent agency. An actor client who was 25 at the time told me that when he was 16 Kevin had made advances on him. The actor, the son of one of America’s greatest 20th century authors, had nothing to gain by lying. I believed him. Fast forward to about 1996 I met a guy at the gym who I went on a couple dates with. He told me that when he was in high school, Spacey had been in his town on a theatrical production before moving to Broadway, and he had made moves on the underage guy. Then a few years ago I learned from a producer friend of a very popular British soap opera that he once saw Kevin at a cast party hitting on several underage male actors
The community has been hankering for Kevin to come out for years. Why wouldn’t we want him on our team? Successful, talented, A-list, Oscar winning actor. Now he “comes out” only because he was busted due to a scandal. Thanks Kevin! Now many LGBTers have to explain the mess that you created and make people understand you do not represent the rest of us. Your issues are yours and not the norm for most LGBT people.
I’m curious over the next few days to see how the media plays this Kevin Spacey story. Do they dig deep and go hard getting the facts like they did Weinstein? Or do they downplay it as a coming out story because Kevin is a Hollywood star that still makes the town a lot of money? The Kevin Spacey story runs as deep as Weinstein’s and is the same example of using and abusing power. Many in Hollywood were aware of it and they allowed it to happen. In some ways it is even worse than Weinstein seeing that many of his victims were underage and most likely young gay men. Young and gay in the 80’s and 90’s, even today, often means living in fear and without a voice. If Harvey’s victims were afraid to speak up just imagine how someone who was 16 and gay would feel.
Let’s see how this house of cards plays out. Hopefully, it collapses.
DCguy
Media will try to just say this is a coming out story, because Spacey’s Publicists, and the companies that make money off of the show House Of Cards, will send all of their PR trolls out to try to control the narrative of the story.
Hopefully the current atmosphere post Ailes, O;Reilly and Weinstein won’t allow them to do this.
Stache
Thanks for the background. Definitely sheds light on the story. This wan’t a one time I was way too drunk story.
Donston
I don’t see the media making excuses for him. Everyone is calling him out on his BS.
Most famous male closet cases tend to cop an undercover bf for years, or they link up with other closet cases. Therefore, even if there’s rumors they can still maintain a general straight image. The famous men who go after 15/16 year olds typically have a more difficult time hiding it, which is partially while Spacey has been living in a glass closet since the late 90’s.
I doubt many will speak up concerning Spacey (except maybe a couple people who were on the receiving end of his sh*t), because they won’t have the excuse of “he was a powerful exec that could have ruined my career”, and Spacey, unlike Harvey, is well-liked among his peers. I also don’t think this will elicit any other legitimately famous men coming out as a “I am not this dude” type of move. Hollywood, like most systems, including the political system, is all about covering your own ass. That’s all anyone will be concerned with.
EvonCook
Wow, Lauraspencer you can dish the gossip, the more unsavory the better I guess. Such a lot of hate, frustration and envy for someone who is in the public eye and an easy target.
lauraspencer
It’s not gossip. My sources were credible and had nothing to gain. More people are coming forward sharing stories.
http://deadline.com/2017/10/kevin-spacey-fallout-london-theatre-director-former-news-anchor-respond-1202197513/
Your research seen in earlier comments on the age of consent comes off as defending predatory behavior. If you are taking time to defend this behavior then I understand why you want to dismiss it as gossip. Sounds like it might hit close to home for you.
Jaroslaw
Laura- I’m not making excuses for Spacey’s bad behavior, but you’re not a baby at 14, 15 or 16. And certainly as an adult of 18 or more, the actors were free to press charges. You do raise an interesting point that doesn’t seem to have been fully addressed as far as I can see in the comments – why did the theatre or Hollywood or society allow this to happen? Same answer all the time – the money, power, popularity, and success of Spacey. All this hand wringing and condemnation is a bit hypocritical now. I would say it was much more difficult being Gay 30 years ago, society is responsible for that too.
Bopper1
…a couple of things:
– the accusation concerns an adult making advances on an underage male…this has NOTHING to do with being homosexual…if true, it has to do with being an (alleged) pedophile and/or drunken behavior…statistically, most pedophiles are straight;
– this type of behavior is no more common in Hollywood than in the rest of the universe…there’s just as much if this going on in big box stores, banks, burger joints, locker rooms, Boy Scouts, churches, summer camps and small towns…the difference is people are more interested in movie stars getting busted than their trailer trash neighbor;
– social media is a modern cancer…with no evidence whatsoever, with no formal charges, with no “due process,” the accused is instantly assumed to be guilty and “tried” in the kangaroo court of twitter…ANYONE can make this kind of accusation…it’s dangerous.
Donston
Of course, sexual assault, sexual coercion, pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia happens happens everywhere. One would have to be naive to think it doesn’t. However, an environment driven by power and money makes certain these things more likely to occur, and power and money come into play big time when it comes to Hollywood, the political world and churches.
Spacey sorta admitted it with his response and soft apology. Someone who would never do something of that nature wouldn’t respond in such a nonchalant way. Plus, I don’t see any reason behind Rapp lying. And there’s been years worth of rumors about Spacey’s behavior.
In some ways, I appreciate social media in this respect. If this were 20 years ago it would be much easier to bury this. And this current “movement” wouldn’t be happening.
tdh1980
Bopper1, I’d be somewhat inclined to agree with your last point ordinarily if not for the facts that:
1. Rumors of Spacey’s penchant for young twinks (maybe not all underage, but definitely barely legal at least) have been around for ages;
2. These accounts have come from multiple independent sources;
3. The details of the events remain fairly consistent from person to person.
EvonCook
Thanks Boppert for a little common sense, but the perspective is missing of the arbitrariness of the age of consent, how out of step it is with other advanced countries, and, by the way is Rapp gay???
lauraspencer
Yes, EvonCook…Rapp is gay. He has been out for years.
https://www.out.com/out-exclusives/out100-2010/2010/11/07/where-are-they-now-anthony-rapp
Donston
EvonCook, you are a seriously pathetic and transparent alternate account.
It’s funny how when these types of stories are posted there’s suddenly two or three new accounts or accounts rarely used that indulge victim-shaming and diversion tactics.
Heywood Jablowme
@EvonCook: Again, again, again – why do you keep dragging the age of consent into this? How is that relevant? There was no consent.
Spacey doesn’t even deny the accusation; he just says he doesn’t remember it and apologizes “if” it happened. He might as well have said “yeah it sounds like something I’d do.”
EvonCook
Donston, “alternate account”? Now what are you making up. My account is years old! Seems hysteria knows no bounds and typically hysterics will grab at anything to make their case.
Heywood: First of all THERE WAS NO CRIME COMMITTED! There was an overture, a forward attempt at seduction and you don’t seem to understand, NO SEX!!!! So, you are really worked up about something that is hard to fathom. Secondly, “age of consent” HAS ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING to do with legal sex between individuals whether it is sensible, reasonable or just phobic. IF there had been sex, which there wasn’t, so for those screaming “rape” “FOC” and other complete hysterical nonsense, you are really hate mongers in our own community.
Heywood Jablowme
@EvonCook: Okay, let me see if I follow your “logic” here.
Imagine you are on the subway (and you’re drunk, if it matters). A cute 14 year old boy walks by. You GRAB him, put him on your lap, and attempt to seduce him. He says no. You say, oh well I tried, nice meeting you.
You’re saying there was no crime committed? Seriously? Even in those sophisticated European countries you mentioned, that would be a crime.
tham
Again, where was Rapp’s parents? Why did his parents allow him to go to an adult party unattended?
This is just more about Parent Neglict as it is sexual harassment.
talktalktalk
there are so many things wrong with that statement. The worst is the way he cynically ‘came out’ after being accused of accusing a minor, conflating paedophilia with homosexuality