So Kevin Spacey’s career might be dying before our very eyes.
In case you haven’t heard yet: On Sunday, actor Anthony Rapp accused Spacey of making untoward sexual advances on him when he was just 14 years old. Spacey was 26. In response, Spacey issued a hasty statement saying he was drunk at the time and didn’t remember the alleged incident… Then he came out as gay. Surprise!
In my life I have had relationships with both men and women. I have loved and had romantic encounters with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man. I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behavior.
Unfortunately for Mr. Spacey, his tasteless attempt at drawing attention away from his alleged sexual misconduct involving a minor by coming out publicly didn’t go unnoticed. People immediately began slamming him for trying to use the gay card to get out of trouble.
And then came the memes…
How about we take this to the next level?
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Related: Kevin Spacey comes out as gay while addressing Anthony Rapp sexual assault allegations
Xzamilloh
These are brutal? These are nothing. Show the really bad ones, or let us embed on here lol
dinard38
Yep they are brutal.
Brutally BORING!!!!!!
Mandrake
The barrage of criticism against Spacey is misdirected! Why did Anthony Rapp choose to do a “tell all” now with all the sexual harassment incidents currently being plastered across the news media?? His incident with Spacey occurred back in 1985, thirty-two years ago. Could it be that this was a good opportunity for Rapp to grab attention for himself and his career at Spacey’s expense? Obviously, the event didn’t seem to particularly bother him until now. And, Spacey’s coming out is no surprise to any of us, is it? Anthony Rapp deserves the criticism for being a back-stabbing opportunist!
footwork61
Oh yes, all the smartest people blame the victim.
Are you seriously asking why someone might wait 30 years to talk about an abusive incident that happened when they were 14 years old? Have you read nothing over the past 15 years about the thousands of teens who were victimized by priests?
The barrage of criticism against Spacey is way too little and way overdue. He deserves everything and more that’s coming his way. He’s been a weasel all his adult life and there’s no sign he’s changed his ways, as shown by the completely shitty way he’s “handling” this accusation.
Kieru
Yes, how dare a victim of alleged sexual assault every share their story. How dare they think that sharing their own story might bring about change in a system that for decades has allowed and even encouraged this behavior. What narcissism to think that in the current climate sharing the story NOW might actually affect change, where even a few years past the story would have been ignored entirely.
Charlie in Charge
Don’t you think it’s possible all the people speaking out about their own abuse gave him the courage/drive/conviction to come forward?
DCguy
Well Well Well, a new account coming on to defend sexual assault on a minor. Looks like Spacey’s P.R. team is sending out it’s trolls to try to blame the victim.
Rapp not only has been telling this story for years, he told it to the Advocate nearly 20 years ago and the Advocate CHOSE to redact Spacey’s name.
So nice try in attempting to defend attempted child rape. You trolls are not only pathetic, but you’re obvious.
MacAdvisor
Yes, footwork61, I am going to put some blame on the victim. Not all, but some. If one is the victim of a crime, one reports it. At the time. Period. Yes, many people waited. Doing so was difficult years ago. Blah, blah, blah. I don’t care. That doing something is difficult is not an excuse for not doing it. Weinstein molested hundreds of women because the first few remained silent. Would they have a paid a price? Very likely, but they would have saved many. I wouldn’t have blamed Rapp if he waited until he was 18 or even 25, but he waited THIRTY TWO YEARS and he is now in his mid-forties. My G-d, how much courage does it take to say Spacey tried to have sex with me and I said “no”?
These victims that wait decades and only then come out in a crowd are partly responsible for the harm done to others. If I fell into an abandoned well, but managed to climb back out, then covered up the well again, and didn’t tell anyone so others later fall in, some being hurt badly, I think I bare some responsibility, not just the owner of the land who has the well.
How many times do we need to say this:
Silence = Death
Mkiel
Well said and by AR own admission nothing happened ,many a straight lad hold guys down while on top without anyone saying it is sexaul harrassment.
am
Let’s also unsubscribe from NETFLIX that supports the pedophile, and subscribe to CBS All Access where we can watch an amazing new version of Star Trek with whatever this guy’s name is.
DadScott
Exactly my thoughts. It’s too convenient to announce this now when there is a media storm about sexual advances. Anthony Rapp is not a name in the public eye since “Rent”, so it seems too convenient. This was not a serious event and who know what happened. What was reported is quite minor and it was 32 years ago. Give me a break!
Kevin Spacey handled this whole thing VERY poorly though. Kevin- you’re smarter than that!
jkiser
A totally uneducated response.
batesmotel
It’s because it’s currently “TRENDY” this year to list everyone who ever made a sexual advance or pass on you. Just make sure you do it on social media for attention instead of going to the authorities. Oh, and wait 30 years before you say anything as well.
gayjim1969
Rapp has told people over the years; I’m sure all of you naysayers know that, but you refuse to acknowledge it because it fails to fit into your narrative of the nowhere actor who uses a very painful memory to gain notoriety at the expense of a far more respected, successful and until now, ostensibly straight actor.
The more people speak about their experiences with sexual harassment/assault and rape, the more likely there will be real change in Hollywood and society at large; the problem isn’t men and women waiting years or decades to say that these things have happened–it is that they happen at all. The entitlement that men–and some women–have that they can overpower other men, women, and children for their own pleasure–or degradation–needs to change.
erikaesoaring
The legal Doctrine of Laches (Laches: French word for “Lazy”) is an equitable doctrine, meaning ‘those that sit on their laurels don’t deserve their rights’ and it functions as a safeguard against abuses of allegations past a statute of limitations. In the case of the indictments of Kevin Spacey (“KS”) in the fourth estate, because clearly its wasn’t that important to Anthony Rapp (“AR”) when he was eighteen when he could have brought it up, via his own agency, for prosecution or in fact when he was 14 through a guardian. It places into question the validity of the allegation and prejudices the defense because memories fade and evidence is destroyed, deteriorates and/or no longer available. It just wasn’t that important to AR at the time and it is a valid argument that AR is only using this for attention, sans the “blame the victim” meme.
Brian
Have you been living under a rock for the past month? You really don’t know why he came out with this story now?
tham
I think the question we should be asking ourselves is “Rapp was 14 and was alone at an adult party were alcohol and other adult activities”
Umm, were was his freakin parents? Even in 1986, it was a form of child neglect, to allow your 14 year old child to go to adult parties unattended.
A 14 year old was hanging out with a bunch of boozy adults and one of the younger cast mates hit on him.
SHOCKER, hey people, this is why parents don’t let their 14 year olds go to adult parties…unattended
DCguy
Well Well Well ANOTHER new account trying to blame the victim.
The REAL question is, why are you trying to blame a 14 year old kid for getting attacked? Let me guess, you also think it’s women’s fault if they get raped because they were wearing a skirt.
Here’s a thought, this was a party celebrating the success of plays that they were apparently both in. Maybe if you weren’t a troll sent in here to deflect from the story you would have actually read the Buzzfeed article and noticed that little detail.
chris_clb614
A part of the story you overlooked: both Rapp and Spacey were on Broadway shows at the time of this party. Rapp was all to himself in a room watching TV, yes he was the only nonadult there, when the other guests left, he was the only person period. A responsible adult would not have done what Rapp alleges Spacey did.
OzJosh
It is not victim-shaming to query a story that is so murky that it hardly stands up under even the slightest scrutiny. Rapp was not only 14 and the only child at an adult party, he was unchaperoned, he was there after midnight, and after most guests had left, and, oh yes, he was hanging out alone in Spacey’s bedroom. I’m not (necessarily) suggesting Rapp was consciously giving off the wrong signals, but he was certainly placing himself in a situation open to be misconstrued. Factor in that many 14 year olds can easily look 18 or 19, and that most broadway teens – especially those given to hanging out at adult parties after midnight and lurking in the host’s bedroom – are rather more clued up about sex than Rapp claims to have been. Also, there is no suggestion that Spacey did anything more than make a pass; he was not aggressive or abusive or even coercive. Which makes this story more than something of a beat up. I think Spacey has been cowardly about his sexuality for years, but that doesn’t make him deserving of the abuse he’s copping over this highly dubious story.
tham
How is Rapp’s parents victims?
Again, having your 14 year old boy party hoping in the mid 80s in NYC will not win any Parent of the Year awards.
KS is a jerk, sure, but…are there any personal responsibilities fall on the his parents?
Brian
Are you sure you don’t want to blame the Russians?
yaletownman
My best friend worked on the film Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. While on location she and I were talking on the phone and she had to pause to address one of the cast members who’d come into her office. When returned to me she said “ick” and immediately I asked her who was she speaking to? Well guess who it was? The ick was that he had his boy of the day with him when he walked into the office. Never know if these boys de jour were underage but my friend is very open minded and for her to respond the way she did tells me they were probably border line legal at best.
Bradsman
Rapp is a jerk. He wasn’t raped. Spacey was not a rich powerful man then, 32 years ago. A drunk tried to make it with him and he left. That’s all. Rapp can only have one of two motives for calling his publicist instead of privately contacting Spacey- he’s really pissed still and wants to destroy Spacey’s career or he misses his name in the papers, so nice no one cares about Rent anymore.
DCguy
And ANOTHER new account tries to attack the victim. Hey If Hollywood P.R. groups are going to send in trolls try to hide it better.
Oh, and just for your info, Rapp gave an interview to The Advocate almost 20 years ago about what happens and The Advocate chose to censor out Spacey’s name.
Ooops, there goes your narrative, but please, tell us again how the victim is the bad guy and the attempted child rapist is somehow the hero here.
Oh, also, scan down this article for the picture of Rapp from the Playbill of the show he was in when this happened. This is the child that Spacey attacked.
PinkoOfTheGange
That might be just a little bit under selling the alleged incident.
Bradsman
I do not work for a PR firm. I just try to see all sides of an issue. What did Rapp have to gain 32 years later by destroying a mans career? He was not raped. A drunken man made an aggressive pass. Surely worse things have happened to him in the ensuing 32 years.
batesmotel
He’s only doing it because of the Weinstein drama. It’s now cool to bring up when famous people of today made a pass at you decades ago.
mhoffman953
@Bradsman
Right. Who doesn’t get drunk at a party and start touching 14 year-old boys, am I right? (not serious)
geb1966
It is NEVER acceptable to make sexual advances toward a minor, no matter how “tame” they are and it is NEVER acceptable to blame the victim.
geb1966
Also, there is nothing in your original comment that remotely sounds like “seeing both sides.” You clearly are taking Spacey’s side beginning with the first four words or your statement.
Knight
Bradsman yeah…I think it’s unanimous here that you’re a pedophile defender at best and a pedophile at worst. No man in his 20s should be sexually assaulting (and yes, Rapp’s account is the exact definition) a 14-year-old. Hell, I’m Bi and have had older guys coming on to me about since I was 15, and if I could name names at this point in my life I DAMN well would, just to show the people around them what kind of guys they were then and probably still are now.
MinnesotaNotNice
How utterly incredible it is of Kevin Spacey to ‘attempt’ to apologize for his actions against a 14 year old minor, in the lame way that he did…..and then throw in his own P.S. about how he has decided to come out as a gay man! Many, many people knew Spacey was gay, a long time ago. Spacey is a sick S.O.B. who in no honest way can excuse himself for his disgusting behavior, try as he now is doing. Twitter has been relentless with tweets about this and many are just blistering Spacey. I’ll be curious to see what the fallout is with his career. Will Netflix cancel ‘House of Cards’ or replace him, etc…?
Donston
Netflix announced a couple hours ago that the next season (which is in the middle of filming) will be the last and that they are “deeply disturbed” by this news. However, there’s a pretty good chance this would have been the final season anyhow.
NateOcean
I’m a little iffy here.
He apologizes for an incident that he doesn’t remember, but he remembers that he was drunk when the incident he doesn’t remember happened?
don1323
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Memory is such a “flexible” thing, isn’t it?
PinkoOfTheGange
Actually Rapp describes Spacey as drunk in his account.
imaqt2
Thanks Kevin Spacey for continuing to link homosexual with pedophiles just when we thought we might be making progress with this. A-hole. Not happy you’re officially in the “family,” the part I’m ashamed of.
DarkZephyr
So Kevin Spacey sexually assaulted Anthony Rapp?
OzJosh
If making a pass is not so easily branded as sexual assault, then we’re all in deep trouble. The paroxysms of ecstatic condemnation over this are way more worrying than the incident itself.
PinkoOfTheGange
Assaulted, maybe*…sexually, not as the incident has been described.
*If not for the age difference rough-housing would be an apt description.
Parisguy
When Kevin Spacey was filming Usual Suspects, the director (Bryan Singer) was dating a very young (just legal) French boy. The boy disappeared from Bryan’s apartment but showed up Monday morning at the shoot with Kevin Spacey–Singer was so pissed, he didn’t speak one word to Spacey for the rest of the shoot. He hired someone and would say things like ‘please ask Mr Spacey to move his hand” etc and they were enemies for years, until Singer used him as Lex Luther. Spacey has had a thing for young guys long after the weekend he ‘can’t remember’—
Jaxton
Kevin Spacey is bisexual but he now chooses to live as a gay man. What’s the big deal about that? If he had chosen to now live as a straight man, you would’ve been even more furious.
Sure, there’s an elememt of hiding under the rainbow to deflect the allegations of improper behavior. However, it was expected.
geb1966
“Expected” does not make it right.
gayjim1969
It is not “expected” to use sexual preference–in the most literal sense of the term–as a convenient diversionary tactic when “apologizing” for “inappropriate drunken behavior” you claim not to remember, yet don’t deny, with a 14-year-old boy who looked 12 at most.
I am a gay man, I have never had sex with a woman, and never will, because I have no sexual desire for the female sex; I also have never had sexual contact with an underage boy–whether drunk or sober–so, there is no altered mental state that would cause me to be sexual with either a woman or a youngster. Spacey’s so-called “apology” and “coming out” is merely a deflection from his highly inappropriate sexual advances toward a young-looking 14-year-old boy–probably not the only time it happened.
Being a sexual predator is totally different than being bisexual or gay, and if Spacey can “choose to live [his] life as a gay man,” he is not 100% homosexual, but somewhere on the bisexual spectrum; I couldn’t “choose” to be gay–I AM gay–and always have been.
Kenney G
Why wouldn’t he just say he’s Bisexual? Don’t put out that old lie all gay men like young boy, apparently Bisexuals like them too
1EqualityUSA
Brian jason Jaxtonn Gallagher with NOM talking points, tinkering with identity. Buzzword, “chose.”
anthonyz
CNN says 17 years old not 14. Huge difference in mental growth among other things. Perhaps 17 and 11 months 29 days?
DCguy
And ANOTHER new account tries to lie about the truth. Nice try liar. Rapp himself said 14, and the show he was in at the time was the show he did at 14. I also notice you didn’t post a link to the supposed story where CNN said this. Because there is no story and you are ANOTHER P.R. troll trying to deflect the story from Spacey trying to sexually assault a 14 year old oy.
This is the article, and scan down for the playbill picture of Anthony Rapp from that show. Now please tell us again how he is supposedly 17?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/anthony-rapp-kevin-spacey-made-sexual-advance-when-i-was-14?utm_term=.weVrYKJL0#.vcK15kQPn
Knight
DC you are correct. Only stupid people believe things they read on the internet without verification. The only people who will believe such posts from these trolls are those who NEED to believe it.
Stilinski26
theres picture of him pulling down a young guys pants and laying him on his lap
Blackceo
The Spacey thing is not a surprise. Its been known he was gay and that he had an affinity for the youngins. What I’m pissed about is people addressing the gay and not paying as much light to him trying to seduce a 14 year old. Then, he plays the “I’m gay” and then blames the alcohol. People already have an idea that there’s a link between pedophilia and homosexuality in the face of empirical evidence showing the opposite; that one has nothing to do with the other. The whole thing was horrible.
Furthermore, as a HUGE fan of House of Cards, I’m pissed that the next season will be the last. I watch it more for Robin Wright and she is strong enough to carry the show without him. Why should everyone associated with the show suffer because of him? Start the season with him having had a heart attack or massive stroke or write him out mid season.
DCguy
Before any MORE phony P.R. trolls come in here to try to lie or change the story or paint Spacey as the victim, here is the original article where Rapp told the story. Scan down, for the Playbill, Rapp’s picture is circled in Red. He looks like he’s about 11. That is who Spacey attacked.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/anthony-rapp-kevin-spacey-made-sexual-advance-when-i-was-14?utm_term=.weVrYKJL0#.vcK15kQPn
PinkoOfTheGange
Thx for the pic but if that is 11 to you…That could of been my pic on my 1st student id card at Cal.
If this happened as described then there is an issue, if another comes forward with a similar M.O., then there is a problem. A third then we are in Cosby territory. (And him being “demonstrative” [handsy] isn’t the same league)
But to start gathering the faggets(sic) for the burning at the stake now is premature.
johnnymcmxxx
The intensity of hatred towards Spacey is outrageous. From what I understand, he was drunk, he picked up Rapp, laid him down on a bed and laid on top of Rapp. There was no forced sex. There were no exposed body parts. In fact there was no sex at all. Was it inappropriate? Of course. Is it worth destroying a career? I don’t know yet. If more young men come forward with stories, I will reconsider but for now, I will wait to find out if Spacey’s behavior was a one time drunken event or one of many such encounters. I think those of you with torches and pitchforks should settle your asses down until we know more.
Bradsman
A voice of reason!
geb1966
It was a sexual advance and that is NEVER acceptable with a minor.
gayjim1969
That type of indiscretion doesn’t happen just once with young boys or girls, especially when Spacey’s penchant for the young boy type is widely known on Broadway and in Hollywood.
As a child sexual abuse survivor, having studied psychology and worked with abusers and survivors as a therapist, it would be likely that Spacey either had experience with minors before his attempt to seduce Rapp or he would attempt to do so in the future. Past behavior predicts future behavior in these cases.
DCguy
You left out the part where he was holding Rapp down and gripping him tighter and RApp fought to get away.
alllowercase
This whole thing pisses me off!
1) It doesn’t matter when the victim reports the assault, he is not to blame. We can’t know what he was going through at the time even if we don’t consider what Spacey did to be assault or not.
2) Spacey has deflected rumors that he was gay for years and denied, denied, denied. NOW, when he is basically accused of being a pedophile, he chose to come out?! THANKS A LOT! We don’t need more people linking gays to pedophiles.
3) I am not buying his excuse, either you remember or you don’t. You don’t get to remember you were drunk but claim you have no memory of the incident!
4) I have been a big fan of Spacey for a long time, SHAME on you Spacey!
PinkoOfTheGange
1. okay
2. deflection and denial are not the same.
3. The “drunk” was part of Rapp’s account of the incident.
4. not going to argue an opinion.
tham
I agree with you for the most part.
Again, where the heck was Rapp’s parents? He was a child actor for 5 years by the time of the assault….so it wasn’t “new” for his parents.
I think this is as much of an indictment of Hollywood parenting as it is hollywood’s Sex problem.
alfred
@PinkoOfTheGrange; Spacey DID (and vehemently so ) deny he was gay. I can think of the Playboy interview as one off the top of my head.
Knight
Tham you are right to question “where were the parents”. I would highly recommend the documentary “Open Secret” (you can find it on youtube). It’s a very GRAPHIC detailed account of the rampant child molestation that went on/is going on in Hollywood…and it names names. But regardless of the parents not being around (or simply taking it for granted that Spacey is “such a nice young man”) this does not negate what happened to Anthony. He could have been a runaway or an orphan (as is usually the case for predators) and it still would have been wrong.
oddchild1
If I’ve said it once; I’ll say it a thousand times. If you’re over 25 stop trying to bed people who are under 21. Once you hit 25 you have nothing in common with a high school kid; move on and get with someone your own age. If you’re over 25 and still trying to bang high school kids you’re a creep and should be treated as such. If you need math “half your age plus seven” and that’s the youngest person you can make sexual advances at.
PinkoOfTheGange
In my town most new HS Grads are 18 not 21.
But I didn’t have much in common with them then nor when I was 25.
Curtispsf
Let’s be clear about this: I am NOT defending Kevin Spacey’s conduct IF things happened as Rapp said they did. However, I DO find it hard to believe that the individual was traumatized for life by this experience. An older gay man made an unwanted sexual advance ONE TIME when you were 14 (and gay); ok, so that was disturbing but there’s no need to play the “let’s get out the cross and crucify the offender”. A Catholic priest tried to molest me when I was 13 by getting me to drink sacrament wine and then putting his hand on my dick. I politely brushed it off and left; in fact, I left the Church for good because I couldn’t stand the hypocrisy, but I WAS gay and I didn’t carry around the trauma around that moment like some badge of honor to use to nail this priest to the cross once people began talking about clergy abuse. YES, I was abused by a person in power. Yes, it was an unwanted sexual advance but I got over it, just as I got over the other sexual advances made to me when I was a minor. Now I’m not saying that my reaction is the “gold” standard or that some people who are repeatedly abused by people in power are NOT traumatized by the molestations. All I’m saying is that in this case, it was just a pass easily brushed off and not something likely to scar one for life…unless that is what is desired so that the “victim” can have his moment in the sun. OK, take your shots now.
DCguy
Were you alone in an apartment with a Priest who picked you up tossed you on a bed got on top of you and held you down? Did you have to fight to get away from the guy? Because that’s what Rapp said happened in the article.
And once again, why is this Rapp’s problem? Maybe he is over it and is just doing what everybody else in Hollywood is doing, Airing out the dirty laundry.
gayjim1969
1) Your experience and Rapp’s are NOT the same. Did you read that he was held down? It’s happened to me–It is a VERY different experience.
2) Read Rapp’s Twitter posts to discover his reasons for disclosing this experience–It is not all about him–he wanted to help others to deal with their experiences as well.
cancorv
1. Did RAPP say he was assaulted or traumatised? I thought he just reported an event.
2. Do people under 18 not seek experience with people over 18?
3. Do people do things under the influence of alcohol that they would not otherwise do?
4. Can we understand that an adult might find a 14 year old in one’s bedroom at the end of an evening of bonhomie at least a little enticing?
5. Can we not applaud the restraint of someone thus enticed?
6. Was being an out actor in the 80s a good career move?
DCguy
Oh look, ANOTHER new troll account trying to defend pedophilia.
1. Yes, he’s been talking about this for decades, in fact reported it to the Advocate in 2000 and THEY chose to censor Spacey’s name.
2. If you read the story you will see that Rapp was in a room alone watching TV because he was bored at the party. But nice try trying to make the child the aggressor, straight out of the pedophile playbook there.
3. Drunks who kill people with cars still go to jail even though they were drunk
4. Thank you for admitting you’re a pedophile troll on here to defend another pedophile
5. By restraint, did you mean when Spacey grabbed him, put him on the bed and held him down?
By the way, here is the article Rapp did. Scan down to find his picture at the time of the attack circled in Red. If anything he looks more like an 11 year old. This is what you’re defending, an attack on this child. And that child is who you’re trying to claim was the aggressor.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/anthony-rapp-kevin-spacey-made-sexual-advance-when-i-was-14?utm_term=.bpvKmp5wJ#.lr921xbLy
Sorry troll, the people on this website aren’t the little kids you apparently usually try to fool with your B.S. lines. Crawl back in your hole.
gayjim1969
1) Yes, he was traumatized.
2) Adults know that the Age of Consent Laws is there to protect minors, who are often too emotionally immature to make decisions that are good for them. Furthermore, adults are physically larger and mentally able to manipulate minors into engaging in sexual encounters that they might not otherwise.
3) Some people do things under the influence that they don’t normally do; DUI, jump off of roofs, etc., but most people act more like themselves, just with their inhibitions lowered.
4) Only hebephiles find 14-year-olds enticing.
5) We can applaud a hebephile who restrains themselves when enticed; however, it was Anthony Rapp’s getting away from Kevin Spacey that stopped him–not Spacey’s self-restraint.
6) How about the 30+ years since? Besides, this isn’t about Kevin Spacey’s sexual orientation–it’s about making sexual advances on a 14-year-old boy, which isn’t about being bisexual or gay, it’s about being a sexual predator and hebephilia.
Nice try, but try harder.
Knight
Are you for real? If so, is there a bottle of any type of sleeping pills you could swallow in their entirety to rid the planet and help the gene pool? On behalf of humanity, that would be just super.
batesmotel
I was 15 when some guy over 40 pressed his hand against my crotch. I felt violated. I pushed it away. I moved on and got over it.
gayjim1969
Good for you; not everyone is so lucky just to have their crotch cupped by a creeper. Thanks for trying to negate other people’s experiences.
DCguy
You’ve made multiple posts with various stories or excuses for Spacey on more than one article here. Your agenda is pretty clear.
crowebobby
MacAdvisor: You’d find a way to blame Rapp no matter when he reported it or to whom.
Brian
“Or just to get some recognition because his career isn’t thriving?”
He’s currently working on the biggest job of his career, on a show that is almost guaranteed to run for several years. His career is actually thriving for the first time in his life. Try again.
Bradsman
I love how anyone not jumping on the “string him up!” bandwagon is labeled a PR troll. It’s possible to have a sense of fairness and see the big picture without being on Spacey’s payroll! I think many of you despised him for not coming out when you thought it was time, so this is an eat excuse to vilify him.
geb1966
How is your trying to blame Rapp or minimize spacey’s actions showing a “sense of fairness”? You started you earlier comment calling Rapp a jerk and basically blaming him. How is that fair? Or are we only supposed to be fair to Spacey?
Bradsman
Rapp IS a jerk. Not for the original incident. But because he brought up this 32 year old incident with the press knowing full well it would put Spacey’s career in jeopardy. Was that his plan? Or just to get some recognition because his career isn’t thriving?
Daniel-Reader
The lesson is that since no evidence has been presented to back up the claim, you can be subject to any claims against you if you are drunk and the public will believe them without regard to any evidence, so don’t drink.
Knight
No, that’s as far from the real lesson here as possible. Spacey did not deny it because he knows it really happened. Anthony did not cover it up all these years, he spoke about it (even publicly). So, it goes without saying he discussed it with Spacey at some point as well, and most likely never got the apology or closure he needed. But yes, not drinking is always good advice, even if it comes from a moron like yourself.
Bob LaBlah
Thirty damn years ago? Please explain why I or anyone else should give a shit? Not to go too far off topic but thirty years ago Mario Lopez was the heartthrob of just about every young gay boy in America. Now that no one give a flying F about his talent deficient ass he goes out of his way to keep gay guys watching because thats about all the audience he has left. Jason, you did this to be mean and you know it. No, I just don’t think you got scarred for life either mentally or physically.
DCguy
Because he’s been trying to talk about it for over 20 years and nobody would let him.
Knight
“Bob” you sound like a self-centered sociopath and narcissist who is under-educated and clearly has no value in society. Why should I or anyone care what you think on this or any other topic?
Donston
You just know when a Queerty article has 50+ comments half of them will be by trolls, alternate accounts, creeps and/or people contending with gay-shame. It just never fails.
alanballs
A vast number of “str8” U. S. Americans are so freakishly hung-up on, and offended by sex and stuck on the political correctness bandwagon that; someday it will be deemed sexual assault to smile at or say hello to someone. It’s currently a very, very sick country. So grateful I live on the other side of the planet.
Donston
So, in your book blocking someone from leaving, picking them up and pinning them on a bed doesn’t qualify sexual assault, huh? Neither is years worth of groping randoms or threatening people’s job security if they don’t engage with you sexually? And being 26 trying to have sex with 14-year-olds is a-okay? As is allegedly years worth of hitting on underage males? You don’t belong on the other side of the planet. You belong on a different planet altogether.
Knight
As a gay male who lives in the US and Europe, I will say that you sound like a pedophile yourself. Consensual sex is MUCH DIFFERENT than predatory assaults, especially when it involves a 14-year-old boy. That’s not being “hung-up”, it’s called having a conscience, which from the sound of it is a foreign concept to you.
behemoth
I don’t understand the sense of moral outrage displayed by many people posting on here. They appear to believe that the Age of Consent as set in the USA is akin to a Law of nature or a Law of Physics – something immutable and god-given and older than time. Which is patently nonsense, since the Age of Consent is a legal concept, and is open to change effectively on an arbitrary basis. Had Spacey done what he is alleged to have done in say Berlin, or Lisbon, or Rome – rather than in New York – then there would be nothing for anybody to talk about since, guess what, the age of consent in Germany and in Portugal and in Italy is fourteen (irrespective of whether we’re talking Gay or Straight). And I somehow doubt that the younger party involved would have gone through the intervening years feeling as patently ‘damaged’ as he asserts that he has done. Or, perhaps, as he has been encouraged to feel that he should feel.
Perhaps a better sense of perspective on this should be encouraged…?
Donston
A grown man grabbing you, picking you up and pinning you down on a bed at 14 isn’t “damaging”? Believe me, if it wasn’t damaging, if it wasn’t something that stayed with him, he wouldn’t have bothered mentioning it now. He already said that it was something that has stayed with him for years. Or did you not bothering reading the full statements? Never mind that he’s probably heard countless stories about Spacey’s aggressive behavior against underage and non-consenting guys since that particular assault, which also likely led to him coming forward.
Some people will find any nonsense reason to excuse being a horrible person and having horrible instincts.
Knight
Pedo alert ?. As Donston rightfully pointed out, a 20-something grown man forcing himself on top of a 14 year old can absolutely be damaging, especially for a kid who has never had any sexual experience or even knows what that is (I was that kid at 14…very late start biologically and sexually). The fact is, it IS illegal in the US and it DID occur there. Laws are there for a reason; specifically to PROTECT regular citizens; especially children. Your “well, the ancient Greeks did it all the time, and it’s legal in Spain!” just makes you sound like a creepy pervert and predator What’s “legal” is not always the same thing as what is moral or ethical. And what Spacey did was wrong on all fronts. Was it as bad as raping someone? No, of course not. But nor should it be excused or dismissed by like-minded pedophiles.
rdb2010
Perhaps rather than carrying on about an event that happened 32 years ago, we could channel this energy into preventing such situations in the future.
Knight
Are you a complete idiot? By focusing on this “event that happened 32 years ago” the media, the public, and more importantly, the entertainment industry (namely the victims) ARE “channeling this energy into preventing such situations in the future”, specifically by calling out individuals who committed these offenses in the past and who are capable of doing so in the future given their status and place in the industry. This has been going on for literally decades and those close to the industry have KNOWN all along (either through acquaintances or 1st hand experience). Only by finally speaking out will it change.
car
First of all it AIN’T news: Rapp made these allegations in 2011 in DataLounge. He wasn’t raped, he wasn’t assaulted and YET, it seems to have lurked in his mind for nearly 30 years. I find thw entire episode opportunistic from a medocire talent seeking attention.
Knight
I guess you don’t know the definition of the word assault; “Sexual assault is any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient. Falling under the definition of sexual assault are sexual activities such as forced sexual intercourse, forcible sodomy, child molestation, incest, fondling, and attempted rape.” This was at least fondling and child molestation (as he was 14 at the time) and at most attempted rape. Might want to actually do some research before you comment so you don’t look like a ridiculous ‘tard.
Luna1979
Victims: PLEASE tell someone, everyone immediately if you’re attacked! If you don’t, countless others will suffer the same fate. I know you will be a total wreck, but don’t be so selfish. Its about stopping the attacker.
Quick flashback– we had exchange students regularly so I always had someone to speak Japanese with. The local director was an ex marine working for the Fed Gov, super respected. I stayed the night with him and his wife and do you know that creep sneaked into my room and told me that he wanted to paint me naked, that he did it for all the students. I was barely 16 and so scared. I said uh uh, Ok, whatever, just to get him to leave. Then he began calling me. My parents thought I was assisting him with the Japanese students, but he was basically saying inappropriate things or threatening me. I was a basket case. Then there was a Halloween party at his home. I had to go because my student wanted to, and I was afraid not to. We all stayed the night and I felt ok because our rooms were full of other kids. The next morning in front of all of them at breakfast, he grabbed me from behind in an elbow hold and tried to kiss me. I bit him hard and he hit me in the face. EVERYONE SAW THIS. I went home and told my parents. We went to the magistrate. We took him to court and subpoenaed all the students. NO ONE spoke for me. They were afraid They’d be sent back to their countries. The man kept his job but couldn’t be near kids anymore. He got away with it. Only a few years ago his wife killed herself and through that investigation they found he’d raped so many kids. I lost all my friends and faith in our courts, but I would do it all over again. Only louder.