People have been up in arms since the first trailer for Roland Emmerich’s new film Stonewall was released last week. Based on the two-and-a-half minute preview, they feel the trailer does not depict enough trans people or people of color, and have accused filmmakers of “whitewashing” the gay rights movement.
As a result of the fervor, nearly 20,000 people have signed an online petition vowing to boycott the film. This prompted Emmerich to release a statement on his official Facebook page last week asking them to please wait and see the film before passing judgment.
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“We are all the same in our struggle for acceptance,” Emmerich wrote.
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Now, Larry Kramer has joined the debate. And in true Kramer fashion, he does not back his feelings about the naysayers.
In a comment posted under Emmerich’s response, Kramer called those who oppose the film “crazies” and urged others not to listen to them.
“Don’t listen to the crazies,” Kramer wrote. “For some reason there is a group of ‘activists’ that insists on maintaining their prime importance and participation during this riot.”
“Unfortunately, there seems no one left alive to say ‘it wasn’t that way at all,’ or ‘who are or where the fuck were you?'”
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Kramer continued by saying he hopes “this boycott your film shit peters out” and reminding everyone that refusing the support a film about gay rights that is getting a widespread release by a major film studio “is only hurting ourselves.”
He concluded the post by wishing Emmerich “good luck and thank you for your passion.”
What do you think? Does Kramer have a point? Does boycotting Stonewall help or hurt the advancement of gay rights? Sound off in the comments section below.
Glücklich
Like most noise in our short attention span world, no one will have remembered the kerfuffle surrounding the film when people flock to see it.
Remember OWS? No? Didn’t think so.
Can’t wait for the same cultural amnesia to obliterate “____ privilege” from our lexicon.
Maxxwell Mcguire
I wasn’t born for 3 more years. Jeez.
Cam
From reports taken from people there……
“A scuffle broke out when a woman in handcuffs was escorted from the door of the bar to the waiting police wagon several times. She escaped repeatedly and fought with four of the police, swearing and shouting, for about ten minutes. Described as “a typical New York butch” and “a dyke–stone butch”, she had been hit on the head by an officer with a baton for, as one witness claimed, complaining that her handcuffs were too tight. Bystanders recalled that the woman, whose identity remains unknown (Stormé DeLarverie has been identified by some, including herself, as the woman, but accounts vary, sparked the crowd to fight when she looked at bystanders and shouted, “Why don’t you guys do something?” After an officer picked her up and heaved her into the back of the wagon,the crowd became a mob and went “berserk”: “It was at that moment that the scene became explosive.”
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This is an explosive iconic moment no matter how it started, but this account seems to be corroborated, and I don’t understand why Trans activists would want to apparently negate the existence of this brave Mixed Race lesbian activist.
http://www.vocativ.com/culture/lgbt/long-live-legacy-storme-delarverie/
tdh1980
@Glücklich: However you feel about the controversy surrounding the film, let’s not start pretending that privilege is some fantasy creation that doesn’t exist.
Sam Raether
As far as I’ve heard, people are boycotting because of the erasure non-white queer women who played a HUGE part, replacing them with cis white men… I think that’s a pretty good reason to boycott.
Taskebab
Oh look, an old person agreeing with Racism and white-washing…no surprise there…when was the last time Larry Kramer wrote anything about black people by the way?
Ummmm Yeah
@Taskebab: Do no black people know how to write? Why can’t they do it themselves instead of demanding a white person do it for them the exact why they want it done? And he’s old enough to have been around during the Stonewall time, so I’m sure he knows a lot more about it than you do.
Cam
@Taskebab:
Oh look, another trans activist trying to “Whitewash history and take away what really happened from the mixed race lesbian who really threw the first punch.”
When was the last time a Trans activist wrote anything good about a lesbian by the way?
Sansacro
See the film, then engage with a dialogue.
SeeingAll
The photos of the riots show a crowd that matches the crowd in the film’s trailer perfectly. Emmerich is obviously using the real photos as a guide.
Sansacro
@Cam: Pretty funny.
We need more LGBT black writers. We need publishers who will publish them. And, most important, we need people who will buy and read them. That includes all you indignant, boycotting folk. Make it happen biatches, and stop waiting for others to do it!
MarionPaige
Again, I wager this is all about money, about shaking down the Stonewall movie for gay advertising buys and gay charitable donations. It’s like all of that crap a few years ago about Grey’s Anatomy. Shondra Rhymes forked over the required gay advertising and made the required charitable donations to gay .orgs and became The Darling Black Woman of the White Gay Rights set. Meanwhile, whatever happened to TR Knight? It was never about TR Knight.
meghanada
@Sam Raether: Look at actual pictures of the right – that queer whatever women played a “huge part” in the riots, to the point that white gay men did nothing, like many of you are saying on social media, is untrue. Look at the actual material evidence of the riots – there are many pictures of youths throwing bottles and running from cops, and those youths were for the most part *white and male.* Its anything, what the film did was downplay that aspect. I’m sorry, but history doesn’t always bend over to satisfy your needs for identity validation.
Cy
I fully intend to see the film. I realize it’s not a documentary trying to depict real life events, but rather a story of a young man trying to come to terms with his life at a time of great unrest. I’ll base my judgement of the film on how well it entertains me, not on whether it got every minute detail of events accurate. There’s a lot of things wrong in this world today that might warrant boycotting, this film isn’t one of them.
James
Larry Kramer is one of the biggest bores around.
James Halat
Not a Larry Kramer fan. Never have been. He’s a loudmouth shithead. If the film doesn’t depict Stonewall as it was, then a boycott is in order.
meghanada
This is what Stonewall historian David Crane found in regards to one of the “trans women of color” who SJW say made the riots:
“Yes, I am afraid that I could only conclude that Sylvia’s account of her being there on the first night was a fabrication. Randy Wicker told me that Marsha P. Johnson, his roommate, told him that Sylvia was not at the Stonewall Inn at the outbreak of the riots as she had fallen asleep in Bryant Park after taking heroin. (Marsha had gone up to Bryant Park, found her asleep, and woke her up to tell her about the riots.) Playwright and early gay activist Doric Wilson also independently told me that Marsha Johnson had told him that Sylvia was not at the Stonewall Riots.
“Sylvia also showed a real inconsistency in her accounts of the Stonewall Riots. In one account she claimed that the night the riots broke out was the first time that she had ever been at the Stonewall Inn; in another account she said that she had been there many times. In one account she said that she was there in drag; in another account she says that she was not in drag. She told Martin Duberman that she went to the Stonewall Inn the night the riots began to celebrate Marsha Johnson’s birthday, but Marsha was born in August, not June. I also did not find one credible witness who saw her there on the first night.”
http://gaytoday.com/interview/070104in.asp
MacAdvisor
I am rather sure Stonewall looked very different to each of the some 14 million people who claim to have been there.
Glücklich
@tdh1980:
Oh, trust me, no pretending. But it has become another buzzword applied to too many menial little quibbles, though, whenever someone’s feelings get hurt.
Cis-privilege
Ab-privilege
Check your privilege
Jock privilege
College privilege
Single privilege
Attached privilege
Kid privilege
Child-free privilege
It’s just noise. When was the last time you heard “One-percenter” from someone and didn’t think “stale”?
Avery Alvarez
The “Crazies” are too busy re-writing history because it’s not PC enough for them.
The Founding fathers? Four black transgender women.
The truth? White cis gay men have been hiding this for centuries!
Lesbians, and transgender women, and drag queens wanted to stop 9/11, but white cis gay men stopped them!
White gay cis men dropped a bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, which were at the time inhabited by drag queens and black transgender women alone!
And Hilter? A Cis white gay men.
The people in concentration camps? – all lesbians, drag queens, and black transgender people.
All this TRUE HISTORY needs to be portrayed on film and television because this is totally what social justice is about – lying, cheating, distorting.
Hey, it’s truly the only way to make things equal…
Perry M. Gentry
Good God, being upset about this fictionalized history not telling the real story or even the whole story of Stonewall is like being upset that the Red Badge of Courage is not the real story of the Civil War. I know what I’m getting into seeing this movie, and now that there’s a boycott call I’m definitely in.
Beto Van
Censorship promotes ignorance. I ð??ð?¼ Larry!
Cam
@Beto Van:
Then why is the trans community trying to censor out the mixed race lesbian who is the one who threw the first punch?
Luis H. Lopez
Protesting a movie ? We should be demanding full equality throughout the nation !!!!
Amaurys Arias
MARSHA, MARSHA, MARSHA! … Yes, honey is all about her..
PAY HIM NO MIND… Support short film HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARSHA.
SeeingAll
@Avery Alvarez: -LOL. Pretty much where they want to head.
Stache99
I’m going to see it. Fuck the haters and their stupid boycott.
tricky ricky
trans? they were drag queens.
tricky ricky
of course maybe they mean transvestites. they weren’t transsexuals.
tricky ricky
@Cam: because they weren’t there but feel the need to claim the drag queens were transsexuals.
SeeingAll
@Amaurys Arias: By all accounts Marsha was a dangerous lunatic when in the male persona.
meghanada
It’s hilarious how one week transgenders ban drag queens from Pride, and the other week they co-opt them to give themselves more relevance in gay history.
Jason Peil
I think before people talk about Trans activists they should remind themselves that Trans didn’t exist as an identifiable category in those days. There was drag and there was cross dressing. There was no medical or psychiatric definition of transgender. The gender binary was being confronted by “trannies” (transvestites) who wore opposite sex attire for many reasons. Lesbians have very commonly used male clothing to identify without having to be labeled as trans in any way. I think it’s a co-opt for trans folks to take away from the moment that at the time people’s queer identity was complex, and trans people may or may not have been there. It’s impossible to define it that way. I think it’s worth exploring the Wikipedia article on stonewall before having an opinion. The images show lots of men and women being arrested. They show drag queens protesting. They show black people and lots of white folks. The majority definitely were not drag queens or trans or black. The majority who are popularly disparaged by others even in our own community were indeed cisgendered white folks. Are people who are a minority among minorities under-represented? Probably. They are a part of the Rainbow. Should it be ok to portray the event without a queer black drag queen or a black lesbian? I don’t think it’s fair but it’s also not historically accurate to say they were more important than the rest. Maybe just watch it and judge the history by learning more about it from the images and the actual accounts on record.
Dustin Larkin
Actually, I am not a ‘crazy’ trying to keep my ‘prime importance’. I am a supporter who is tired of my trans family being the silent fucking T! Also a supporter of equality and over the marginalization of blacks.
Finrod
Okay, Larry. I’ll get off your lawn right now.
I’m not a gay celebrity, but I have been fighting for gay rights since 1972, when I was 14 years old and the only out (and very vocal) queer in a small town. I’ve been arrested for doing drag and had facial reconstructive surgery after being gay-bashed. I think that I’ve earned a voice.
Until someone who’s not involved in this film sees it and says that the trailer grossly misrepresents the content of the film, then I share the outrage of trans activists and people of color, despite the fact that I’m a white cisgender man. Inventing a character to make the Stonewall riots palatable to middle America is just repellent.
SeeingAll
@Finrod: The trailer matches the historical photos.
Bob LaBlah
People, one can shout from the mountain tops all they want that they didn’t do it because of money but that is what it all boils down to. Investors have to be repaid and if their is the belief that there is no audience then it simply won’t get made. The real story had to be pretty bland if these reports are true. He is targeting an audience of movie goers who have no idea what the world was like when things such as a I-pod, cd player, VHS/DVD player, smart phone, lap top and, sadly, HIV did not exist. I can’t see lines stretched around the corner to see it in the crystal ball.
This movie is beginning to sound like the new Fantastic Four movie, dead on arrival. I think one of the first things he should have done was research the mentality of those he expected to pay to see this movie. As so many other “gay” movies this one too will flop both artistically and financially.
SeeingAll
@Bob LaBlah: Maybe it should have been an HBO miniseries (a la “John Adams”) instead.
Chris
So then, if I understand Mr. Kramer, I have no right to critique films (or books) about things I did not experience directly. In that case, I cannot say anything about films that (mis)represent the Holocaust and the Civil War (which was taught as the war of northern aggression when I was knee high to a grasshopper), to mention just a few things. ….. Not likely.
I think that the historical consensus is that drag queens led the Stonewall Riots. Given what I know about NYC from that time, I think it is fair to assume that at least some of them were people of color. Also given what I know of that time, transsexuals tended to be hidden except for some well-known people like Christine Jorgenson. I may be wrong; but I do not think that they were at the vanguard of Stonewall.
Anyway, the complaints involve the lack of historical accuracy in the omission of people of color among the drag queens. And from what I know from that time, that seems to be a fair criticsm.
SeeingAll
@Chris: No. The trailer matches the actual historical photos of the rioters perfectly. From the percentage of “femme” types to the percentage of ethnic minorities.
Bob LaBlah
@SeeingAll: Even a mini-series wouldn’t pay off because of dwindling interest in the subject. Not only has this story has been told so many times now to have any financial rewards for any one but nowadays even forty year olds are more interested in their I-phones than what happened almost fifty years ago. A mini series has to have drama and characters who hold the interest of the audience. They would have no other choice but to do what he knew he had to do; rewrite history to make it pay off. I don’t fault the guy at all for trying to make a buck but me, personally, don’t see an audience for it to make that happen.
I knew some thing was wrong with the Fantastic Four when I checked the newspaper on Friday and not one 3D I-Max theatre carried it down here. What does that tell you about the confidence the studio had in that turkey. A subject such as Stonewall belongs in the local art house type theaters such as the IFC in the West Village, not AMC theaters.
SeeingAll
@Bob LaBlah: I understand what you’re saying, and don’t totally disagree. But I still think the right writers could capture and translate the inherent “entertaining” qualities of the story (again, like with “John Adams”).
James Halat
I’m reading reports that say the trailer does not reflect the film. Maybe we should all boycott marketing for a change. As far as Larry Kramer is concerned. He bored me in the 80s and he bores me now. Everyone, including the “activists,” should go with their passion, not just a filmmaker who may or may not be tilting his story white or non-trans.
Finally, if the history cannot be verified, what kind of “artist” would cut colors from the rainbow, rather than add a few of his own?
Clark35
@James: Very true, he’s also the definition of a batshit crazy vindictive queen that loves to revise history, and even sabotages groups he’s in when things do not go his way since he’s a major control freak.
Steve George
Free publicity, der…
Finrod
@SeeingAll: “The trailer matches the historical photos.”
You mean that it matches the photos that you’ve seen, which were taken, saved and curated by people who have, like everyone, biases. Just because you’ve seen some photos doesn’t mean that you’ve seen a complete or representative presentation of what actually happened.
meghanada
@Dustin Larkin: This is not about being Santa and giving gifts to every kid equally. Credit is where credit is due, and the trans are vastly exaggerating their role in the protests to the point they’re denying gay men were there at all. The photos do not support them on either count; the facts are what they are, and not always history bends over to give everyone something to feel good and validated about. Grow up.
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: Im not going off of a few hotos. Im going off of statements of eole who were act just gave actually there. Ever heard of Miss Major? Yes she is a transwoman of color who was actually there and was one of the leaders of stonewall riots. She has racked this film and its makers over the coals!!! You should look u her comments on this film. By the way no one is saying that white gay men weren’t there at Stonewall but they were not in the fight getting stones thrown at them. They were not the leaders. The leaders were Marsha Johnson, Sylvia Rivera, Ray Castro, other trans women and butch lesbians, the leaders of Stonewall were not cis white boys from Kansas named Danny no matter how big your delusions may be. The only one’s defending this movie, generally are white men. Generally, nobody else is checking for this movie
MINTCREAM
The leaders of Stonewall were Marsha Johnson, Sylvia Castro, Miss Major, and other trans women of color, gays and butch lesbians. Were white gay men there? sure, but they didn’t lead the movement. The next thing you know white Hollywood is going to make a movie about the Civil Rights movement with Martin Luther King Jr as n extra and the movie will star Zac Efron. You mark my words.
darian
I had never heard of him until today. As I read up on him abit he seems very bitter and jaded by guys lot in life. I hope eventually he gets the chill pill he needs so desperately in life. As for this movie like I said about those shit stills and that shit trailer it’s just not interesting to me.
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: But photos don’t lie. At least not as much as people do.
Sluggo2007
I love all the negative comments from the people who weren’t even born when Stonewall took place and have no fucking idea how it was back then!
SeeingAll
@Finrod: Then let’s see the photos that back up the “drag queens were in the majority”, etc., point of view. Never seen any. Are they in a vault somewhere?
Psams6901
I say let’s not boycott the movie until someone has actually seen it. Trailers can be deceptive.
Cam
@MINTCREAM: You’re actually a liar, witness accounts back up that the first punch was thrown by a mixed race lesbian who was there performing as a drag king named Stormee. She was also a founding member of the Stonewall Veterans group made up of people who were there.
Oh wait, no WONDER Trans activists want to rewrite history. They Hate Drag with a passion, have been attacking RuPaul, trying to get drag removed from Pride, so of course they couldn’t ever admit that the person who threw the first punch was a drag king!
The Trans activists have spent the last few years attacking gays, lesbians and bisexuals, funny, if you go on their sites you will see all the attacks against them and none against right wing bigots. I guess Caitlyn Jenner has it right, maybe all Trans Activists want is to become uptight, hetrosexual republicans and spend their days continuing to attack LGB’s.
JessPH
I didn’t even plan to see this film in the theatre. I was planning to wait for a few months and see it on DVD. However, because of the unfair attacks it has been receiving from these whiny so-called “activists”, i am going to see in theatre on its first opening day!
I seriously hope the film makes massive profit and disappoint the hell out of the lowlife whiners.
jimmycurry01
I think I prefer to see the movie before condemning it. A two minute trailer does not offer enough evidence to make an educated decision as to whether or not the film makers were irresponsible in their depiction of events.I am not jumping on any bandwagon until I have the necessary information.
lykeitiz
Since we all know that it was in fact Bruce Jenner who threw that first brick at Stonewall, trans people will have to admit that at the time, he was a cis-white-male, as you can plainly see in the movie trailer. Caitlyn can only be celebrated for what she has done this past year.
SeeingAll
@lykeitiz: lol
Clark35
Asexuals are the most oppressed members of the LGBTQIAGFSM community.
They are not permitted to teach public school in 32 states and are unfairly accused of “recruiting because they cannot reproduce.”
They are erased more often than bisexuals, hated by heterosexuals, and shunned by gay gymn rats as if they were old drag queens out in daylight with five o’clock shadow. The A’s have the highest suicide rate in the LBJFK community (although still only once per person), and are incorrectly blamed for the rise in the rate of Lesbian Bed Death.
We need to lobby Congress so that Obamacare will pay to put Asexual children on puberty blockers as it is far easier for a person who detests sex to go through life with the undeveloped genitalia of a child.
The lack of support for A’s by the BLT community is especially shameful for if asexuals hadn’t started the Stonewall Riots, we would all still be slaves picking cotton in the Mississippi Delta.
Cam
@Clark35:
The sheer sarcastic bitchery in that comment was legen……”wait for it”…..DERY!
Clark35
@meghanada: That’s very true about Sylvia Rivera; but a lot more people claim to have been at Stonewall, or to have participated in the riots than actually really have. Even the idiot who pretended to invent the Woodstock music festival Eliot Tiber who is a charlatan and fraud claims to have been there and that people who were in the bar as patrons who were not dressed in drag started the riots which is not true.
MINTCREAM
@Cam: did you even read my comment in its entirety before responding with your embarrassing tripe? Did I mention anything about what color the person was who through the first brick? No I didn’t…but I’m so glad YOU brought it up because I love reminding people that it wasn’t a white boy from Kansas… I said specifically the movement’s leaders were teams women of color, black and brown drag queens and butch lesbians and that is a historical FACT no matter how small that makes you feel and no matter how hard a white man tries to revise history so that white men can pay themselves on the back for movements they didn’t start. you can NEVER change history! And didn’t I mention in my comment when I mentioned who the true leaders of the riots and stonewall movement were that butch lesbians were also leaders in the movement and appear to also be recipients of the erasure perpetuated by this hollow film? Why yes I believe I did so you should try reading before replying to my comments. Frankly, this discussion seems to be above your pay grade, but I’ll give you a B for effort.
MINTCREAM
The above comment should read transwomen of color not teams
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: I guess I’ll ignore the photos then, since you were obviously at the Stonewall riots and paint a different picture.
MINTCREAM
Why don’t you read the history books on stonewall instead of trying to figure out who was there based on a few photos which focus on the whites that were there, whg don’t you do the due diligence and read the police reports which you can find online, why don’t you listen to the eye witness accounts of the few veterans of stonewall who are still alive who are now in their 70s who can tell you who did what. My guess is you will cling to the few photos which feature white people as this film will do in a sad and desperate attempt to cling to your white superiority complex. Either way it doesn’t bother me I’ve read the interviews of the rioters who were actually there and if is accepted as fact as to who the leaders were. Oddly those of you who don’t know the history are a monitoring which is why so many people are outraged and will not be seeing the film. But good for u for believing what u believe contrary to the accounts of the people who were there and I hope u enjoy the fiction that you are going to see
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: oh and i get that you see a visual learner but a picture is not going to tell you who the leaders were only the people who were there can tell you that you should probably try READING what they have to say
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: Why should I read what are a bunch of potential lies, when the photos can’t lie ? Do you know how many claims and counter-claims there are about who was there and who wasn’t ? (And the photos DO show some African-Americans and “queeney” types mixed in, not just white males).
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: What should I do about the books and Stonewall patrons who claim is was a majority white male bar ? Is it okay if I reject THEIR testimony and just go by the photos?
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: It’s not to hang on to any sense of white gay male superiority that I say I’m going by the photos as my main source. I already have DaVinci and Sir Francis Bacon, etc., I certainly don’t need Stonewall rioters (although admirable) to reassure myself. It’s just because I think we should be sticklers for accuracy when depicting history. I’d be totally annoyed if they left black and Hispanic folk out of the film completely.
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: it was a predominately white bar did i dispute that? No. There were a ton of white people at the riots did anyone dispute that? No! however the leaders of the movement were not white and the white people who were there sweetheart, will tell you that, and by the way there are images of Marsha p Johnson and the drag queens and transvestites at stonewall too. Now…I’m not getting paid to teach you so anything else you will have to learn on your own just like the rest of us. Mmmkay? Bye
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: But the actual leaders all got cut out of the news photos ? That was quite a feat. Which white people who were there will tell me they were being led by non-white gender-benders ?
lwoody75
I met this man twice. He is a psychopath and an ego manic. He will do anything for attention. He should be trying to heal the community and not create more division. Go away Mr Kramer.
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: actually why don’t you read emmerich (the director of this film) read his response tv the backlash and then go watch his film. Please stop relying to my comments. enjoy the film.
MINTCREAM
@MINTCREAM: you can go to Roland Emmerich’s (the director of this pathetic film and read his statement addressing the massive boycott taking place in response to his insulting film and even he mentions Marsha, Sylvia and Ray in his statement. Then… go watch his movie. I’m sure someone like you will enjoy it. Please don’t reply to me any further I’ve given u enough info and attention
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: you should go to Roland Emmerich’s ( director of this pathetic film and read his statement on Twitter or Facebook addressing the massive boycott taking place in response to his insulting film and even he mentions Marsha, Sylvia and Ray in his statement. Then… go watch his movie. I’m sure someone like you will enjoy it. Please don’t reply to me any further I’ve given u enough info and attention
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: Okay. But there’s no real controversy and therefore won’t be a boycott (except for a few loons). The film appears to mirror what really happened, so..
Cam
@MINTCREAM:
Nice try liar, what you tried to do is claim that the leaders were all trans, and yet CONVIENIENTLY, you leave out the name of the actual person who threw the first punch, a black lesbian drag king. Uh oh, two things you Trans activists hate, a lesbian AND somebody who does drag.
As for reading history,maybe you should try it, you list Sylvia Castro as one of the leaders, but Uh Oh, one of the OTHER leaders you name, Marsha, said Sylvia wasn’t there. Oooooops, guess you were so busy with your phony outrage and your excitement to attack lesbians, gays, and bisexuals, that you forgot to get your lies straight.
Better luck next time you try to rewrite history, perhaps you could try claiming that Trans Activists were actually the ones who won World War two, or that maybe AIDS was cured by Trans Activists, oh but wait, just a suggestion, wait until AIDS is actually cured before you tell that lie, or else it will be as easy to spot as the one you tried to tell here.
MINTCREAM
@Cam: not even going to read your rant since you are a complete idiot I never attacked gays or lesbians as a matter of fact I said lesbians, drag queens and lesbians are not getting their credit. Go take your meds now
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: no controversy? Lol have u been on social media? Have u seen the comments on the director and cast members social media pages? There are more people who are against the film than are for it but it doesn’t bother me I hope u are entertained by the film and why are you still sending me messages do you not know how to follow instructions?
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: no controversy? It takes to seconds to google the stonewall movie and all that comes up is the articles written specifically ABOUT the controversy. Yea there is so little controversy that the New York Times, Washington post, huffington post and Forbes magazine, OUT magazine have done articles specifically about the controversy. There is so little controversy that the director, lead actor, and writer have all had to release statements to try and calm down the outrage in hopes that it will xhange the minds of those who have decided not to see it. No controversy? You are someone who does not live in reality…its delusion as I said before but go watch the film and j hope h enjoy it. Carry on
MINTCREAM
@SeeingAll: Roland Emmerich “this film deeply honors the real life activists including Marsha P Johnson, Sylvia Rivera and Ray Castro and all those who sparked the civil rights movements” that is a quote from the director who even though made this insulting film at least acknowledges he knows who actually sparked the movement. But Carry on in believing it was someone who looks like u
Manny4action
NEWSFLASH NEWSFLASH
DON’T ASSUME ANYTHING about the movie. Watch it from start to finish and then make your critiques. If you don’t like the way you think the movie is being made, then make your own FU*#ING movie!
SeeingAll
@MINTCREAM: That’s faux controversy from a few with faux outrage. There’s no real controversy because the trailer (and hopefully the film) represent the Stonewall riots realistically.
joeytrom
Larry Kramer is wronged too many times. His book “Faggots” told the truth about the gay community at the time and that it may bring something terrible to happen, which it did. He was made a pariah at the time for telling it the way it is.
MINTCREAM
@Finrod: you are absolutely right1 But the average white boy on queerty will defend ANYTHING that centers around them. They dont care whether it is accurate or not. The dude you relied to doesn’t know anything about Stonewall, or Marsha, Sylvia, Ray, Storm, Miss Major, etc…the extent of his knowledge of stonewall rests in about 3 images he’s seen. Its really sad. but its cis white gays who will watch this movie, those of us educated who know about Stonewall have already been turned off by it.