Lia Thomas thought that her decision to come out as transgender and medically transition would end her college swimming career. Instead, she made history this March, when she became the first openly transgender athlete to win a Division I national championship in any sport. That also made the 23-year-old former University of Pennsylvania swimmer a national lightning rod, her triumph stoking the long-smoldering debate surrounding transgender athletes’ participation in sports.
Sports Illustrated called her “a living, breathing, real-time Rorschach test for how society views those who challenge conventions.” The New York Times published a long feature essentially positioning Thomas at the center of the debate over whether trans women pose an existential threat to women’s sports. Martina Navratilova and Caitlyn Jenner have both weighed in. And the commentary on Twitter has been predictably vile.
But through it all, Thomas has remained largely silent. She is not on social media and declined to be interviewed after her history-making win at the NCAA women’s championship in March where, it was reported, she was greeted with noticeably more subdued applause than other swimmers, while outside Save Women’s Sports and Young Women for America protested her participation.
More recently, however, Thomas has been speaking out, and her message is simple: she deserves to be who she is and do what she loves.
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In her first on-camera interview, Thomas told Good Morning America’s Juju Chang this week that she was prepared for the scrutiny that would come her way if she decided to compete in women’s swimming. “But I also don’t need anybody’s permission to be myself and to do the sport that I love.”
EXCLUSIVE: "Trans people don't transition for athletics. We transition to be happy and authentic and our true selves."
Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas speaks out to @JujuChangABC about backlash and future plans to compete. https://t.co/UFQOgMNBLj pic.twitter.com/FJcmyEChi9
— Good Morning America (@GMA) May 31, 2022
In response to the absurd suggestion that cis male athletes might choose to compete as transwomen in women’s events as simply to gain an advantage, Thomas had this to say: “Trans people don’t transition for athletics. We transition to be happy and authentic and our true selves. Transitioning to get an advantage is not something that ever factors into our decisions.”
“Trans women are a very small minority of all athletes,” Thomas told ESPN.com recently. “The NCAA rules regarding trans women competing in women’s sports have been around for 10-plus years. And we haven’t seen any massive wave of trans women dominating.”
Both the Times and GMA interviewed experts who insist that trans women will always have a competitive advantage against cisgender women in sports due to having experienced male puberty. But the discussion, so far, has conveniently failed to make the connection between that and widespread efforts in Republican led states to deny transgender kids access to puberty blockers.
For her part, Thomas points to the diversity among cis female bodies, while others have pointed out that the same activist criticizing Thomas have failed to rally around cis women of color who have been shut out of competing in certain events at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics for having naturally high testosterone levels.
TERFs losing their shit about Lia Thomas were conveniently quiet about Christine Mboma and Beatrice Masiling who are cis women who weren’t allowed to compete at the olympics for having naturally higher t levels.
Y’all don’t care about “real women” you just wanna be transphobic
— donovan ?? (@dondonluvsyou) May 31, 2022
“I just want to show trans kids and younger trans athletes that they’re not alone,” Thomas told Sports Illustrated back in early March before the NCAA Women’s Division I Swimming and Diving Championships. “They don’t have to choose between who they are and the sport they love.”
Having graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, Thomas plans to attend law school in the fall, focusing on civil rights. “Having seen such hateful attacks on trans rights through legislation, fighting for trans rights and trans equality is something that I’ve become much more passionate about and want to pursue,” she told ESPN.com.
But that doesn’t mean she’s done swimming. She revealed in this week’s GMA interview that she has her sights set on the Olympics. “It’s been a goal of mine to swim at Olympic trials for a very long time, and I would love to see that through.”
We’re proud of Thomas not just for what she’s accomplished in her sport, but for showing trans kids and younger trans athletes what’s possible.
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marxist_homo
Another Queerty sermon dressed up as journalism…
You are proud of Lia. “We” are not.
But maybe the solution, instead of continuing to rely on gender categories (which is really the objective of trans activism) and requiring people (biological females) to compete against others who, on average, have clear biological advantages over them (biological males like Lia Thomas), we should organize sports by different criteria like body size, testosterone level, etc.
But this insistence that there are no real differences between biological males/females and trans men/women is delusional, dishonest, and just stupid.
John
I agree. Lia Thomas clearly transitioned as career move. Good for her but let’s call it like it is.
carllonghorn
Dear John – anyone who thinks someone would completely change their sex, i.e. transition, just to win a swim meet has no clue as to the trauma, the misery, and the outright hate these people face on a daily basis. Please educate yourself on this very complex issue before spouting the same hate we all get from the alt right do-gooders. You are doing your community and your fellow LGBTQ comrades not a lot of good.
Den
You know what it actually “delusional, dishonest, and just stupid.”?
You.
Nobody says there are no differences between biological females and trans women. And there have not been, as is clearly noted in the article, ANY spate of trans women out competing cis women in elite athletic competition.
And nobody is fooled by your personal lies. We know you are not gay and are definitely a right wing fool. We see just how loose your grip is on reality as well.
Den
“I agree. Lia Thomas clearly transitioned as career move. Good for her but let’s call it like it is.”
Are you really so stupid that you believe a person would undergo long psych evaluation, a long pre surgery period, painful surgery including castration (or at the least testosterone blocking drug and estrogen treatments) as a “career move”? Are you even more stupid to believe Lia simply puts on falsies, a woman’s bathing suit and marches into competition?
I know you right wingers are dull as a box of rocks generally, but that takes the cake. The issue of trans people in sports is somewhat complex, while you are extraordinarily simple!
Sqwoah
She’s a selfish egomaniac who is addicted to attention and will do anything to get it.
shaunpaul1234
As a gay man, wth freinds who happen to b trans!! U said it perfectly!! This particular person, who happens to b trans, is a self-serving, egomanic, who gives a shit, about NOBODY, but Her-Self!! She has no morals or scruples, i wonder if she Ever Did!!
BigJohnSF
Narcissism is pretty common among this group of people.
mastik8
Zuby also made history simply by being who they are and doing what they love.
monty clift
Zuby?? Lol, Way to out yourself as a loser.
mastik8
@monty clift – Why?
Den
Why?”:
Are you that much of an idiot? (I think I know the answer, but sadly the stupid never achieve self-awareness).
Zuby, despite good educational credentials pulled off a rather stupid publicity stunt which reveals, more than anything else, that he (and obviously you) know nothing at all about what gender dysphoria is or the process of transitioning, or the testing that is done on elite athletes. If you think that Lia simply put on a woman’s bathing suit and marched into competition in the same way that Zuby simply lied about his gender identity to attempt to humiliate others, you are a fool.
mastik8
@Den – We can see from a cursory glance at the comment section that you’re very good at Ad Hominem. Having said that you’re also a perfect example of why we can’t have productive or civil discussions about our differences on this subject. You’ll need better arguments and less Ad Hominem going forward. Even the Transgender Law Center “messaging guide” from several months ago said, “no arguments we tested bested the opposition in a direct debate on sports policy.” and “Right now, our opposition wins the debate on trans youth in sports against any and all arguments we have tried for our side,”. Your attitude is actually hurting your own argument. Build bridges, don’t burn them.
OrdinaryJoe
100% that she deserves to be who she is and do what she loves. I don’t believe that is in question. What is in question is whether she deserves to do what she loves (compete) against biologically born females. I support trans people in almost every way possible….except this. It doesn’t pass a reasonableness test.
Polaro
I agree 100%. I think she’s being selfish and set other trans people back a lot. She allowed the haters to change the narrative to a position that is very difficult for us to defend.
nunya
AGREED!
GlobeTrotter
Sorry but there’s nothing to be “proud” of here. A biological male who at his best was #554 in the 200 yard freestyle suddenly changes gender and WITHIN TWO YEARS rockets to #1 in the same category in women’s sport is not an achievement to be proud of. This is cheating, plain and simple. And I don’t blame Lia Thomas, I blame the governing bodies for turning a blind eye in the name of “diversity”.
Who on earth could ever be proud of beating up on women, taking away scholarships and prize money from young women that have been working hard their entire lives since grade school? Lia Thomas is SIX FOOT ONE and has the wingspan of a Boeing 747 for crying out loud! For someone who went through male puberty to be allowed to compete against female swimmers is simply a travesty.
Humans cannot change biological sex. Biological sex is real. Biological sex is immutable. Biological sex has REAL consequences and pointing out biological facts and differences does not make a person “transphobic”!
jamesajulian
You are incorrect. She is NOT 6’1”. Look it up again, and then correct your mistake.
Yooper
Not taking sides, but Lia is listed as 6’1″ on some websites and 5’8 on some websites. Go figure…
Polaro
She’s 6’1”.
Heywood Jablowme
Maybe she swims in heels?
jamesajulian
Globe Trotter….Lia Thomas used to be listed as being 5’8” tall, but now, some sites are listing her as 6’1”, so you may be correct. From what site did you get her height as being 6’1”?
OrdinaryJoe
Most sites list her as 6’1″. A CNN article has her at 6’4″. I don’t know the exact number, but there are enough pictures of her standing beside other people. You can plainly tell that she isn’t 5’8″
tallskin4
How did you get her height as being 6’1″ ?
Dunno, must be the high heels on the flippers
DuMaurier
As the article indicates, we can’t really talk about this without acknowledging the fact that every online discussion is dominated by people who deny trans reality, sneer about the “man in a dress”, and recycle scare stories about predatory trans women in locker rooms/bathrooms/dressing rooms, etc.
Is there a legit debate about the fairness of trans women competing with cis women in certain sports, a debate that is reason-centered and not just an opportunity to spew bigotry? Yes. But at the very least, anyone who honestly wants to enter into that debate should be expressly clear that their opinion isn’t based on obliterating the authentic experience of trans persons. In other words, don’t say anything that Breitbart will gleefully cite in an article about the issue, make sure what you DO say will not be jumped on and triumphantly held up as ammunition (“even gay people know transgender is fake!”) by their noxious comments site troglodytes.
iminheatlikeacat
The thing is, now a backlash is brewing, people are wanting to debate all of a sudden. Even as recent as last year, the widely-spread slogan was “No Debate” and no conversations permitted.
With that aside, my positioning is as follows: Is it fair for women to have to compete against men? My opinion is: No. No it is not. Sport doesn’t take identities and feelings into consideration and a person who is born male on average has and will always have physical advantages over a person who is born female
monty clift
That’s TERFs for you, they don’t care about debate, they hate trans people and want them gone.
iminheatlikeacat
@Monty, reading your ever increasingly hyper replies on here, you sound like a man(?) unhinged. Are you all right?
monty clift
@iminheatlikeacat, This is a GAY website, you moron, of course it’s going to be occupied by men. You mentally unhinged TERFs would be funny if you weren’t so blatantly pathetic.
iminheatlikeacat
@Monty Is it specifically a gay men’s website, or a gay website? Nevertheless, in this day and age where women can identify as gay men, I thought it best to check. You’ve already displaying some quite disturbing histrionics, I wouldn’t want to send you over the edge with accusations of “transphobia” on top as well.
I trust that you are doing your part to support, and are regularly dating and sleeping with trans men, aren’t you? Just make sure you wrap up. Biology doesn’t take identity into consideration and you might find yourself with a mini Monty you’ll be financially supporting for the next 18 years. If it doesn’t apply, why not? In your own words you are a gay man who thinks trans men are men. I hope this isn’t a case of ally in the streets but TERF in the sheets as that would be highly hypocritical of you…
Den
“Is it specifically a gay men’s website, or a gay website? Nevertheless, in this day and age where women can identify as gay men, I thought it best to check.”
While this site may on occasion have articles dealing with lesbian, bi or trans issues, it is OVERWHELMINGLY written and curated by gay men and aimed at gay men. Which you might have picked up on if you were, in fact, a gay man. And are you such a dullard that you think women can identify as gay men. They can’t, fool. Trans men can identify as gay men because if you actually knew or interacted with any trans people you might know that they are hetero, homo, bi or asexual in the same way cis people are.
Let’s also look at this odd and dull statement: “I trust that you are doing your part to support, and are regularly dating and sleeping with trans men, aren’t you?”
Logic much? Does not sleeping with women make either gay men or hetero women anti-feminist? That might be too difficult a question to wrap your head around, but let’s just say that the specifics of sexual attraction are independent of political stance or ethical treatment of others. I don’t sleep with trans men, but am willing to bet that I treat other people with a great deal more respect and consideration than you ever have or could stand to.
Do you think your disingenuousness and right wing agenda is not immediately obvious?
monty clift
@iminheatlikeacat, The histrionics are coming from inside the TERF house. What is it with TERFs obsession with sex and genitals? Not much going on under your sheets?
iminheatlikeacat
@Den: I am a gay man. I’ve been on this site for the last five or six years, though I stopped visiting when it was gripped by and in thrall to everything trans but started to check it more frequently when the (inevitable) pushback started and comments BTL started to question things more rationally. Which, in turn, brought the crazies out of the woodwork. And now here you are, along with Mont, unable to get your point across without resorting to calling peoples fools and morons. People do say though they people resort to arguments when they can’t defend their own position properly because logically it makes zero sense…
“Trans men can identify as gay men because if you actually knew or interacted with any trans people you might know that they are hetero, homo, bi or asexual in the same way cis people are”
Erm…let’s unwrap that. Trans Men. There’s one qualifier that unites all trans men. Do you want to hazard a guess at what that is? Trans men ALL transition from…women. “Biological” men can’t and can never be trans men, because there would be nothing to trans from or into. So trans men are always born biologically female. Now let’s throw your second sentence into the mix. We’ll get the “A’s” in LGTBQIA out of the way because in this instance, they don’t count. And for the purpose of simplicity, we’ll disregard the “B’s” too. That leaves hetero and homo. If a trans man (bio female) is homo then that woman (trans man) would be looking for female partners and they would be in (to people not caught up in gender woo) a lesbian relationship. If the trans man was in a hetero relationship, she would be in one with a male.
“Logic much? Does not sleeping with women make either gay men or hetero women anti-feminist?”
You want to talk about logic? Have you not seen the homophobic abuse aimed at gay men who point blank refuse to entertain the idea of sleeping with, dating or even considering a trans man as a partner? And don’t get me started with the abuse lobbies at lesbians who refuse to have anything to do with their MTF “sisters”. To answer your question, no, I don’t think at all. But here’s a fun game: I DARE you to write what you wrote publicly on social media and see if you come out of it A) unscathed and with no problem occurring and B) With your account still in tact and not banned for transphobia. I’ll wait.
What exactly is disingenuous and right wing about stating my boundaries as a gay man and not including women within that boundary? Explain, with words, not emotions.
iminheatlikeacat
@Monty What histrionics? All I have done so far is point out my reasonings and logic. You are the one hurling insults because somebody doesn’t agree with you. If insults are your go-to then I can understand why you and your ilk were so keen for “no debate”…because you can’t! And I’m not surprised you can’t. You can’t square a circle.
And you sidestepped my question (again, another tactic). You do consider trans men in your dating pool, yes? Because trans men are men in your eyes, right? And dating someone does include, yes, sleeping with them. So you, as a gay man, would consider sleeping with a trans men, yes? …Or no? I’m trying to establish what your answer is so I can understand what you define a gay man as exactly.
Heywood Jablowme
@iminheatlikeacat:
“Have you not seen the homophobic abuse aimed at gay men who point blank refuse to entertain the idea of sleeping with, dating or even considering a trans man as a partner?”
I’ve been reading Queerty for over a decade and I’ve very rarely seen that here. Are you referring to other sites?
kish
Can’t have a trans story without bigots coming out the woodwork.
And making it worse by confusing opinion with fact.
Polaro
Calling valid perspectives bigotry is why everyone hates everyone. You can disagree with his statement, which would be more helpful.
monty clift
There are already countless examples of trans women LOSING in women sports, but they conveniently ignore that because “biological advantage.”
Den
“Calling valid perspectives bigotry is why everyone hates everyone. You can disagree with his statement, which would be more helpful.”
If actual facts do not support an opinion (what you call a “perspective”), that opinion is not valid. All opinions are not equivalent. And in many cases calling them bigotry IS valid disagreement.
Polaro
Den, sweetie, you did the same thing. Just what is it you disagree with? Defending your right to call people who disagree with you bigots proves the point.
Jim
Lia has an unfair advantage over cis females.
There’s no getting around it.
I wish her well, but she should not be allowed to compete with other women
dwick
so you admit she is a woman?
Polaro
All of us agree she is a trans woman and deserves respect as a trans woman. As far as your leap to assume we agree she is a woman would be presumptuous. Clearly trans women are different from women and those differences are sometime material; like when trans women muscle out women in sports.
Diplomat
She, I call him that at his request, is a chemically altered male who sounds and looks like a male. Her his brain may be female. So I go with the flow on how hard that must be. Convincing rational people that Caitlin and Lia are real baby producing women will never happen. Trans woman with a penis yes, but that’s as far as I think anyone with a rational mind is willing to go.
With the difficulty that trans people must have I think they need to realize their boundaries with the general public. To say trans women are real bio women is a mistake. They have penises. They pass as male. Trans women are a completely different breed of human being, not to be confused with bio women. Just fact.
I do wish them well on their journey. It’s certainly not an easy road.
Mack
Sounds like a bunch of right wing trolls in here attacking the trans. You belong in the same category as Caitlyn.
inbama
No.
Sounds like a bunch of LGBT people who know that real liberation comes from embracing the truth and accepting ourselves as we actually are.
Polaro
Wow, attacking a trans woman to do what exactly?
bachy
Personally, I can’t wait to see trans women athletes compete against cis women athletes in women’s boxing!
iminheatlikeacat
Can’t wait? It’s already happened loads of times. One woman ended up with a broken skull in the first round and was hospitalised.
Prax07
Trans athletes like him shouldn’t be allowed to compete against any opposite actual sex. Trans should complete against trans or only against their actual biological sex. He’s essentially a cheater. Saying otherwise is asinine.
Diplomat
The comments here, for the majority, are quite rational and do agree with Jenner’s pisition and do not reflect an ounce of transphobia. Right on, reason takes the prize: no male bodies chemically modified or not, competing on women’s teams in sports.
jackscott
Lia can identify/transition as she likes. However, being born a biological male, having trained as a male athlete, etc. does give her an unfair advantage.
cuteguy
Where are all the feminists now? Haven’t for years whined for equal rights? All of a sudden silence? Where is their so called hero Billie Jean King? Bunch of hypocrites
Polaro
Google is your friend.
The problem, of course, is you can’t speak honestly because if you disagree the nuts try to destroy you. They don’t disagree, they try to get you canceled, fired, banned. It’s evil. It’s what makes the looney left almost as dangerous as the right.
Billie Jean King, by the way, supports trans people in sports. Martina Navratalova did not originally and was massacred.
Ronbo
Cuteguy just demonstrated a lot of mysogony and bigotry aimed at women. I don’t think the ogre understands that equality of rights is different from equality of circumstance.
A person competing in a row boat doesn’t compete against a person in a speed boat. A college grad doesn’t compete against pre-schoolers.
Trans individuals make their own categories. It’s why they are such a breath of fresh air. Haters like cuteguy need to understand that we live in a big world and we need to make room for everyone.
Thad
Did any of these “commenters” READ this article?
The University of Pennsylvania and the Ivy League stand behind Lia Thomas. So do I.
Polaro
Yes, and millions of people disagree including many women she has competed against and the woman who bumped her from the team…
kish
There are a lot of ignorant bigots here screaming, “Do YoU eVeN kNoW aBoUt ScIeNcE?!”
But will dismiss anything that an actual doctor will say about trans people.
GlobeTrotter
Stating biological facts does not make one a “bigot”, and YES, we do know science, as a matter of fact most of us have actually undergone the science of puberty ourselves, so we’re well aware of the advantages it confers on biological men! And YES, we have listened to what the doctors have to say about trans folk:
Dr. Michael J. Joyner, a Mayo Clinic doctor and international physiologist who consults on sports confirmed that Lia Thomas’ advantages are inescapable. In an interview he said “There are social aspects to sport, but physiology and biology underpin it. Testosterone is the 800-pound gorilla. Even though Thomas took testosterone suppressants – which are required by the N.C.A.A. – she still has an unfair advantage over the biological females she swims against”.
Another sports physiologist, Dr. Ross Tucker said, “Lia Thomas is the manifestation of the scientific evidence. The reduction in testosterone did not remove her biological advantage.”
So YES, we have been listening to the science, and YES, we have been listening to the doctors, and YES, we have been listening to plain, common sense! After going through male puberty, all the hormone reduction treatment in the world is NOT going to reduce your height, or your wingspan, or your lung capacity, or your hand and feet size, etc. Biological sex has immutable consequences!
kish
No, you’re choosing to be a bigot. My comment was more for those who choose to misgender Lia or call her a mutilated male/chemically altered male.
But Lol at you’ve been through puberty so you know what’s up. And nice job finding a doctor that compared trans athletes to an 800 lb gorilla.
Here is what other doctors say: “A person’s genetic make-up and internal and external reproductive anatomy are not useful indicators of athletic performance,”according to Dr. Joshua D. Safer. “For a trans woman athlete who meets NCAA standards, “there is no inherent reason why her physiological characteristics related to athletic performance should be treated differently from the physiological characteristics of a non-transgender woman.”
GlobeTrotter
“A person’s genetic make-up and internal and external reproductive anatomy are not useful indicators of athletic performance”
Your genetic make-up is not a useful indicator of your athletic performance? Really?? This doctor has just disqualified himself and deserves to be paid no further attention.
Furthermore, no one is claiming that it’s her reproductive anatomy that gives Lia Thomas an unfair advantage, rather it’s the changes that occurred to her body as a result of male puberty (towering height, wingspan, increased lung capacity, flatter chest and narrower waist, etc.) that makes her an unfair competitor in women’s sports.
This is what happens when ideology is allowed to trump science – you make a fool of yourself.
kish
It is stating that being born with xy chromosomes does not automatically give you an advantage. Not all males are physically superior to females. That is why trans women are allowed to compete. Blanket disqualification is discriminatory and based on ignorance and bigotry.
And I will never feel like a fool when I am debating with a ignorant bigot.
GlobeTrotter
1. Not all males are physically superior to females (true), but MOST males are physically superior to females (also true).
2. Being born with XY chromosomes does not automatically give you an advantage (true), but it DOES give you an advantage over MOST people born with XX chromosomes (also true).
There, fixed it for you! You’re welcome!
Polaro
Willfully ignoring the physical dominance men have always had over women by arguing some men are weak is a really poor argument. Should we now just expect women to punch men men back when their husbands hit them? Leave women their space in sports. Its not that big of a sacrifice to do so.
DrJohn
in response to the headline, so did Omar Mateen.
WesternSatyr
A man beating women at sports? Groundbreaking.
What’s next for liah? Boxing, cage fighting, wrestling?
Get that aggression out on all those terfy ass women who think they should have their own category for “fairness” or whatever. Freedom and fairness are dead in the USSA.
shaunpaul1234
AGREE!!
The only argument, or shld i say false argument, that is thrown around, is, ur attacking cause shes trans!! Nobody tht ive read is!! They r attacking her cause she is a self-absorbed A-Hole, tht is using her trans to cheat!! Well, create an unlevel playing field, in her favor!! She sucked as a male (#460), and now she is a champ, NOPE!! If she had any scruples or morals, she wldnt do wht shes doing to th other females who dnt have the induced advantage she has bought and p aid for!!
No, lia, b ir self, ur true trans-self, tht is fine, but dnt b someone who is deep down personally a self-absorbed narcissist!! U do other trans, a dis-service, tht includes the 2 DEAR Trans friends i have!! They REFUSE, to defend ur bullcrap!!
Also, u folks whose only argument is oh, ur attacking cause shes trans, u only come back wth tht, cause u scientifically cnt come up wth science to disprove, she has an advantage as a transwoman!!
mz.sam
In support of the rights of Trans community, however Lia is a CHICK w/ A DICK and should complete with other equally trained swim athletes.
Den
How do you know she still has her dick? Have you asked her? Have you slept with her? There is something so pitiful and sad about those of you (and there are an awful lot) who cannot differentiate between your imagination and reality.
Were her testosterone levels not within the accepted low range for women’s athletics she would not have been allowed to compete. There are cis women who have been barred from elite competition because of naturally high testosterone levels (obviously higher than Lia’s).
One has to note that there has not been an overwhelming number of Tran athletes who have been sinning at high levels simply because they have transitioned. In the Tokyo Olympics, only one trans competitor won a medal, and that was in Soccer, so she was part of a team effort. The trans weightlifter (where you trans hater would expect a win) was unable to even complete her required lifts. And importantly, there is as yet NO empirical consensus regarding any intrinsic advantage for trans women. And empirical consensus is what matters. Your baseless or anecdote based opinions matter not at all.
Den
WINNING, not sinning. Cannot edit my previous post as editing (for you who have not tried it) consigns a post to the bottomless “awaiting moderation” pit. It never sees the light of day if you edit.
mastik8
@Den – “We are writing to report a potential violation of Pennsylvania Code of Law Section 3127 and of Title IX and of the University of Pennsylvania’s Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence, Relationship Violence and Stalking Policy,”. The violation is based on reports that female swimmers have claimed they felt “uncomfortable” and “definitely awkward,” as University of Pennsylvania transgender swimmer Lia Thomas doesn’t “always cover up” in the locker room, exposing male genitalia in front of college-aged females. Thomas has been granted use of the female locker room since identifying as a woman.
Diplomat
I’m not a republican or dem on this issue, I’m a rationalist, and he needs to be shipped back to the men’s locker room Stat. If he wants my respect to call him she, I demand his respect to get his ass, and his dik, out of women’s locker rooms bathrooms et al etc. Women’s facilities are for women, not fake male knock offs.
Diplomat
If she had gender reassignment surgery would she not then be a transsexual?
Polaro
Who knows? They changed the rules every few seconds.
inbama
Transwomen cyclists having been beating biological females for years.
Yesterday, two transwoman took top honors at Britain’s Thundercrit race. They celebrated on the podium with a kiss.
Google “ Trans women cyclists who used to compete as men take first and second place in new ‘non-binary’ race – leaving young mother in third “ for the photo.
Ronbo
Conservatives have found our achilles heel and they NEED extremist trans individuals to push the envelope until it tears the LGBTQ movement apart. You read their stories and comments daily – right here.
There is nothing wrong with trans individuals showing the full spectrum of gender expressions. Be the beautiful person you want to be – and respect the beautiful people with whom you associate. In other words don’t take a shit where you eat.
tallskin4
Such a sexy young lady, dick and everythink
what more could a suitor want?
Who fvc.ks who though?
kish
Fck off
humble charlie
I love it when trans athletes express themselves by throttling females with actual female bodies. How fair of them!
BigJohnSF
This is just one more example of the shitty treatment men give women.
tallskin4
It is revealing what traitors to women and lesbians gay men have proved to be. They’re happy to support other blokes playing at cosplay.
Most women and lesbians are very angry about all this, about blokes taking sports opportunities that should be for women- but most of the silly f@gg0ts on here are happy to whoop these representatives of male rights
To give an example of what i mean, 3 times Olympic gold medalist, civil rights attorney, and women’s sports advocate Nancy Hogshead says Lia Thomas should NOT be competing against biological women, pointing out the bleedin’ obvious that a 6 foot bloke competing against girls – “‘It Isn’t Fair’
Go on you pack of baying and utterly useless sexist, women hating f@g0tts, slag me off for being a wicked transphobe. –
Mates, it’s water off a duck’s back. I will continue to support women against male rights campaigners