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How utterly awful these people are, why do they wish to deprive themselves and everyone else fundamental basic rights?
It is awful that there are people who hate us anyway, but these are supposed to be the voice of republican moderation and they’re just swept up with hate. I find that as bad if not worse.
If I may invoke Godwin’s law then I can imagine how Jewish people felt [and still feel, justifiably] towards the few Jewish Nazi collaborators. Sending their peers to the gallows just so they can die last.
It’s easy, it’s because any real membership is mostly gone and what you have at the helm is people like Clark Cooper who see this as a stepping stone to getting some high level job with a GOP Senator, Governor, etc…
Years ago, while Patrick Guarino ran them, they would have attacked this platform and refused to endorse the presidential candidate for the GOP as they did with Bush. But under Clark Cooper, they have attaked President Obama when he came out in favor of gay marriage, and attacked him for signing DOMA because they are much more interested in being a shill for the GOP than they are in doing anything for gay rights.
When they endorsed the opponent of, and cheered the defeat of the Congressman in PA. who INTRODUCED the DADT repeal, it was obvious that Clark Cooper and the Log Cabin staff have absolutly no problem working to harm gay interests.
Hideous people. The only thing they are working on is bringing sandwiches and coffee to those actually writing the platform, and guess who those people include? Why, our old friend Tony Perkins.
You know it’s bad when even GoSellout call’s you on it.
Sense the “gay” repub’s seem to be about the money maybe this is what they want.
It’s bad enough that they’re not doing themselves any favors being republicans, but it’s despicable that they’re actually working against their own community, too.
I’m not a Log Cabiner, but I too believe that our country’s fiscal doom is far, far more important than our right to marry. Gay marriage won’t change the country one way or another, but I guarantee you that if our economy tanks, then marrying our boyfriends will be at the bottom of our priorities lists. Which is why I’m going with Romney in November, priciples of marriage be damned.
@BJ McFrisky: Yes, clearly tax cuts for the rich will keep our economy from tanking! It is amazing nobody has tried it before! Oh, wait…
@BJ McFrisky: So there are people who think saving the super rich billions in tax cuts and piling $6,000 a year more tax on middle and working classes is a good idea.
@BJ McFrisky: IGNORAMUS! Good thing you don’t have a uterus.
@BJ McFrisky: Actually, if I could marry my partner, he could finally move here from Hong Kong and start contributing to our economy. Which would help.
Some say civil rights are priceless and beyond monetary worth. Apparently not you, though.
Somebody has to explain the Log Cabin Republican mentality to me some day. Is it some kind of organized madness like Palin followers? “Proud to be second-class citizens, proud to stay that way?”
@dvlaries: They are a group of people caught up in self loathing. They think by pandering to these bigots and monsters that they will be spared. They are the saddest of all politicians, the ones who have completely sold their very selves to their enemy.
@BJ McFrisky: Even if the economy were booming and jobs plentiful, marriage equality still would be on the bottom rung of the ladder for gay republicans. LC and GOProud are delusional if they think the GOP is changing and becoming inclusive which it never has been and never will be. Cooper thinks this is progress? FOr whom? You’re going for a man who refuses to disclose less than two years of his tax returns. If he’s not hiding anything, explain the refusal? Even Tim Pawlenty disclosed more than that, so did Bush and Obama provided several years from 2000-2006. Do you really believe he can solve the problems with the economy? What was his record on job creation in Massachusetts? One in almost four companies under the Bain Capital umbrella went belly-up under his tenure.
Yes and we all know fiscal issues and gay marriage are mutually exclusive issues, so much so that only one can be pursued. That’s a really stupid suggestion.
@BJ McFrisky: said…”I’m not a Log Cabiner, but I too believe that our country’s fiscal doom is far, far more important than our right to marry. ”
1. You’re a liar, the easiest way to spot a troll is that they always start by claiming to not be one. “I’m not a Log Cabiner”, or “I’m gay but….”
2. Bush had 8 years in the White House, and for most of that time had a GOP majority in Congress. the GOP took us from the Clinton surplus to the complete economic collapse under Bush. We have now had nearly 3 straight years of month after month economic growth. So the lie of the GOP being fiscally better is long gone.
3. If you don’t have civil rights, the state of the country can be fairly irrelevant because you cannot participate in it fully. If a couple can’t get joint coverage, can’t get each other’s benefits, can’t leave property to each other free of inheritance taxes etc… then none of the things you mention matter to them.
4. Nice try troll.
@hf2hvit: How do you know I don’t have a uterus?
@unclemike: Sorry, but marriage is not a civil right.
@alexoloughlin: Blah blah blah tax returns. Romney is making the left look as desperate as the right did when it was salivating that Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. Romney will release his returns, he’s just relishing the hysteria generated by the left in the meantime.
@Cam: Seems you’re all about “Gimme, gimme, gimme,” which is so typical of lefties. Remember liberal icon JFK saying, “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”? Seems THAT idea has been abandoned by the Democrats long ago and embraced by everyone else.
Such compassion, such tolerance! Such a typical display of knee-jerk reactions to a differing side to an argument. I see you’re keeping it classy as always, guys.
@BJ McFrisky: If you’re even gay at all.
I know a troll when I see one, having banned hundreds of people like you on Usenet over the years I’ve become good at spotting Agent Provocateurs.
@Neo: Agent Provocateur? I like that—I should’ve used it as my screen name. But I’m neither troll nor breeder. Just because I have an opinion that differs from yours doesn’t make me evil and you good, it just means that we see things differently. Surely that’s a concept you can appreciate.
No, you came on here, spouted the Log Cabin Memo while saying you weren’t a Log Cabiner.
Funny also, that you responded to NEO, because that response wouldn’t have required you to defend your comments about the GOP and finances, but ignored my post just up from his because I pointed out the specifics on GOP financial history which you can’t defend.
Nice try troll.
Or if you aren’t a troll….then somebody has really done a number on your.
@BJ McFrisky: The Newsroom has an interesting plot line about internet trolls. It’s quite clear that your only purpose is to disrupt the thread of this discussion by spouting nonsense and attacking members. This is the last reply that you will receive from me.
For the rest of us, it’s clear that Log Cabin folks would rather not be gay and are filled with self-hatred. This fiscal nonsense defies logic. Gay people are being affected by discriminatory policies supported by the GOP. I pay more taxes as a married gay man so to me this marriage thing IS fiscal issue.
But more than that, I could not align myself with people who want to kill me so that I can make a few thousand dollars.
@Cam: Cam, I met Patrick Guerriero at a LCRLA gathering at The Abbey in West Hollywood when he came on board in 2003. An acquaintance of my partner insisted we attend, so we went to be polite. We tried to engage Guerriero in conversation about what he thought of LC, what he planned to focus on, how did he like LA, but he basically sucked down his drink, was completely noncommital about even the weather, and sauntered off. I even tried to talk about Massachusetts since I’d gone to college in the state: nothing there either. I had the distinct impression that the only shill Patrick Guerriero was interested in was his own resume. And, since he did exactly nothing at LCR during his three-year tenure (nope, LCR’s suing the DOD over DADT does not constitute doing something because far more powerful constituents in the US Military were on board to end it anyway), I was correct in my assessment of him. Compounding his uselessness, he was chosen to head up the No on Prop 8 campaign in California: we all know what a disaster that was. I see he now heads up his own lobbying firm in D.C., which is clearly an appropriate career-choice for someone with little to recommend. I can’t see why Log Cabin Republicans exists, except to self-justify the revolving door of various government positions for their members and officers.
@ChiChi Man: Listen, every time I hear someone state that conservatives want us dead, you lose all credibility. Are there likely a few nutjob religious people who would literally want us dead? A few, probably. Are there gay people who would want to see religious people dead? A few, probably. And all of those people are technically insane.
ps – Your using “The Newsroom” as an example of legitimacy is just laughable. Try, try again.
I have been ambivalent about Log Cabiners in the past but as this election heats up I hope they can show other Republicans that The Gays are actually their children and grandchildren. While the LCR might seem like just an annoying flea on the old dog GOP’s back, they aren’t going away and and are way overdue for a scratch. Sure there are one issue abortion voters on the right but lately I’m wondering I’ve become too much of one issue man myself when it comes to marijuana. I am pissed about Obama’s ongoing federal prosecution of dispensaries despite a campaign promise that he essentially redacted. People in the cannabis reform movement havpollinated out that prosecuting medical marijuana distribution has been a handy way for AG Holder move the focus far away from horribly botched Fast and Furious. So I get the GOP bellowing at Obama because they feel frustrated but I don’t get the lack of facts; folklore is awesome but not a way to run a country. Lib Gary Johnson and Green Jill Stein are the only ones who support gays, marijuana, and evidence based practice but despite the moral high ground and grassroots support, big money and status quo seem to make the law. I’m frustrated but I will compromise and live another day.
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