Have you been following the complicated (and incredibly sad) story of Jennifer Laude? Someone killed the trans woman in a Philippines hotel room earlier this month, and investigators believe it was U.S. soldier Joseph Scott Pemberton. He’s currently being detained at a military base while an investigation is underway.
The latest dramatic twist in the case: Laude’s fiancee, a German man named Marc Suselbeck, just flew to the Philippines and hopped a fence at the base so that he could confront Pemberton. Guards were able to stop him and send him away, but he then was later detained at the airport, at which point he fainted. Yikes.
Apparently Suselbeck and Laude have known each other for years, Suselbeck was aware that Laude was trans, and they planned to marry next year.
Now Laude is dead, and Suselbeck is stuck in the Philippines while authorities try to figure out what to do with him. They won’t arrest him, but they also won’t let him leave, calling him an “undesirable alien.”
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This story just gets worse and worse, doesn’t it? Now get ready for this: Pemberton’s defense representatives want his sentence, if he’s found guilty, reduced from life to 20 years.
Details on the murder are a little sketchy at this point — all we know is that Laude was drowned, found face down in a hotel toilet with strangle marks on her neck. Awful, awful, awful, awful.
jayj150
I don’t think this is a case of the transsexual intentionally deceiving the man. I think the marine was gay, too. Used comdoms were found at the scene. It’s very common for t3anny chasers to explode in violence after giving in to their homosexual urges; t3anny chasers, as t3annies themselves, are really self-hating gay men trying to rationalize their same-sex attraction. They need each other to validate in their mind their sexual orientation as “straight”. They both get to have what is by all means sex with another man but one of them calls himself a ‘woman’ and the other one willfully buys into it because it makes him feel ‘straight’. After everyone has cum, the internalized homophobia kicks in and violence starts.
aliengod
@jayj150: Hmm. That does sort of make sense. I hadn’t really thought of it like that before. It seemed at first like this dude had tricked the marine into sleeping with him, but maybe you’re right.
QJ201
@jayj150: While it makes sense, that doesn’t explain why 4 year olds are trans…and there might be a number of flames thrown your way in this thread.
I will “qualify” what you said with this… yes, I have met more than one “Hedwig” who began to transition for all the wrong reasons (“I’m a femme boy, no one wants me,” “I like straight guys and I’m a total bottom anyway”) and then went back to living as male.
Problem is that with our identity politics, you cannot challenge someone’s feelings about their gender, you are trans if you say you are trans…and people have learned the acceptable narrative, e.g., “I’ve always felt this way.”
hazeleye
First of all… I cannot believe the ignorance that exists on this site. Regardless of whether you agree with what makes someone a transgender person or not makes no difference to me. With that being said, I also suppose that you are with the thought process that gay men choose to be that way. Regardless of your personal beliefs there is a thing called “the law”… And even in the Bible it says “thou shall not kill”… It doesn’t say .. ” thou shall not kill … Unless”. I think it’s very interesting that the first two comments on this regard blaming the victim and excusing the perpetrator. And if you haven’t figured it out yet… Life is not male or female ,black or white straight or gay there are a lot of the gray areas involved! LGBTQ!!!!
jayj150
@hazeleye: You are being deliberately disingenuous. I did not “excuse the perpetrator”, if anything I did the exact opposite of that. And no one has said murder against transsexuals or anybody else is justified; stop lying. And there are abundant cases of people who have transitioned only to regret it for the rest of their lives. Sexual orientation is not a choice, transitioning is. Being gay doesn’t require anything from anyone: not hormones, not therapy, not surgery. Gay is something you are, transgender is something you want to be. So, yes, there’s a crucial and fundamental difference, sorry if that makes you feel uncomfortable.
Saint Law
@jayj150: Sound pretty uncomfortable yourself, Herpy Derp. Oh and even with supportive peers and family being gay can require a great deal in courage, detachment and maturity.
You may even get there yourself one day. But from the tendentious gurning displayed in your posts it wont be in this lifetime.
tdx3fan
@jayj150: You are truly a disgusting and despicable human being. You have just ignored decades of research that shows you are a complete ass. You should not be allowed to comment on anything gay related; because, you are gay and still think you have the right to judge others the same way many of us are judged for being gay. Disgusting!
tdx3fan
@aliengod: It was not a dude. It was a female. You need to educate yourself so you don’t come off sounding so ignorant.
tdx3fan
@QJ201: You can challenge it. Hell, it is challenged for years before you can get a full operation in most states. You go into full on psychotherapy. You are originally diagnosed with gender dysmorphia. All of that is challenging it. Its not like you get to come out one day and say, “I don’t like my penis,” and the next day be in surgery to have it removed.
That being said, there is actually more scientific evidence proving that transgendered identity is a naturally occurring life long process then there is proving that gay identity is. No matter what your anecdotal evidence suggests.
tdx3fan
@jayj150: Your logic is so incredibly flawed. Show me one person that says they regretted being transgendered… you will never show me that one person because those people simply do not exist. Transgendered identity is not a choice! However, you might be able to show me some that have regretted transitioning; however, that has to do with the limitations of surgery that were not actually sold to that person along with the surgery. That is why a great deal of transgendered people now make the choice NOT to transition with surgery… that does not mean they are not transgendered it just means they feel they can live their life without having surgery (especially bottom surgery).
tdx3fan
@Saint Law: Oh, give him a break hon. He is still deciding rather he wants to be gay or not. I mean if being transgendered is a choice then obviously being gay (to him) is as well. If not, he needs to show the cognitive dissonance of a psychopath to try to explain the difference.
JerseyMike
@jayj150: please direct me to an article that said that there were used condoms found. I keep seeing putting this out there but have not seen it anywhere else but you. In the articles I have read said that the suspect went up with the victim and came down a few minutes later. I think you are making up the condom lie..
aliengod
@tdx3fan: I’m not sure what story you’re reading. This was not a female. He had a penis! Females don’t have penises. Sorry if that comes as a shock to you. It’s a dangerous practice (although seemingly common) for these men to trick other men into believing they’re taking home a woman. In no way does that excuse the marine for drowning the poor guy in a toilet stool. What an awful way to go.
@JerseyMike: The whole condom thing appears to be a lie. The articles I’ve read indicate they were in the room together for only a few minutes before the marine left. Apparently just long enough for him to find out this was no lady that he’d been making out with at the club, then drowning him in the toilet.
JerseyMike
@aliengod: thank you.. That’s what I have been reading as well. I’m with you.. I don’t condone violence on any level but don’t trick someone into thinking you are a female and you have a dick.. It never ends well.