An Italian journalist formerly put on trial by the Vatican after published confidential files has written a new book that reports evidence of gay sex in the dorms of Vatican’s youth seminary.
According to The Associated Press, “Original Sin” by Gianluigi Nuzzi’s went on sale Thursday.
Since one of the seminarians was a minor at the time of the encounter, Nuzzi’s lawyers hand-delivered a copy of the book to the Vatican’s criminal prosecutor.
The book faithfully reproduces Vatican files revealing banking accounts in the names of Popes Paul VI and John Paul II stuffed with millions of dollars. Shady business.
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According to The AP, the book also
gathers together years of exposes into the gay subculture of the Vatican. The new claims concern the Vatican’s St. Pius X pre-seminary for middle and high schoolers who are considering a possible vocation to the priesthood.
Nuzzi reproduces a note and testimony from a “gay ex-seminarian who recounted how an adult, now a priest, used to come into his dorm room and have oral sex with his roommate.”
A 2014 letter, allegedly written by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, tells the ex-seminarian that it had investigated the incident and found no hard evidence.
Nuzzi tells reporters the roommate was younger than 18.
NateOcean
The Vatican doesn’t call it a “seminary” for nothing.
GayEGO
I imagine there are other similar names as well, creamatorium! :>)
ceeebeee
“. . . no hard evidence.”
I see what you did there.
stanhope
they wear dresses for goodness’s sakes LOL do you really think there aren’t panties underneath all of those frocks?
Knight
*yawn*. Gee…boys having sex at a boarding school! If it happens at military academies it happens at religious boarding schools…even though in both cases it is prohibited. Unfortunately, both the author and Queerty is being sensationalist as the age of consent in Italy is 14, and the “gay former seminarian” was 17 at the time, and he doesn’t mention the age of his roommate. So “minor” in US terms, but legal in Europe. I’m absolutely NOT condoning such acts, and think ANY types of teacher/student relationships are misguided at best and predatory at worst. But this is just bandwagon sensationalism.
crowebobby
Knight: Over the course of American history, the most commonly observed age of consent was 10 years. In 1880, 37 states had an age of consent of 10 years while 10 states kept an age of consent at 12, and Delaware maintained its age of consent at SEVEN YEARS, having lowered it from 10 in 1871. Wikipedia.
Fakerobot12
crowebobby: you mean back when the average life expectancy was 40?
Juanjo
Fakerobot12 – that average live expectancy argument is a crock. In the 1800s the infant mortality rate was astronomical compared to modern day – 30% of babies did not live to reach age 5 in the 1880s. The truth is that if you made it past age 5 you had a very good chance of living past age 60 and even as long as people live now.
o.codone
It’s just more Catholic bashing from a website which claims it has “no agenda except that gay one”.
James
Oh please. The catholic church has bashed, burned at the stake, tortured and killed gay people for centuries and all you can come up with is catholic bashing. Troll elsewhere. I doubt you are even gay.
Knight
LOL!!! Great name ; ) and yeah…I had the same reaction. Pretty blatant bigotry here against anyone who doesn’t worship at the ultra-liberal agenda, including anti-religion.
jcoberkrom
The age of consent in the Vatican is 16 for males 14 for females. So whats the issue????
Fakerobot12
Mo clicks.
Herman75
Sex in the dorms. Don’t that beat all.
Knight
Exactly! I’m aghast…
Juanjo
One of my buddies from graduate school days had attended a seminary school and had actually gone all the way through and been ordained a priest although he was on hiatus when I met him due to having fallen in love with a monk. He told me that the vast majority of the seminarians where he attended were gay and that sexual activity was common. There was no specific violation of vows because they were seminarians and had not taken a vow of celibacy. Of course they still had that whole it’s a sin thing to deal with but apparently the priests hearing confessions told them to “overcome their urges” and took no strong disciplinary position.
As he always put it, if you grew up religious in a devoutly Catholic family and you were gay, the safest route to go if you were unable to face coming out tot the family was to become a priest. The family loved it and you could screw around on the side.
Knight
Juan that was very common throughout the 70s and 80s. Many bishops (especially in the US) were/are gay and had a very overt agenda to bring in as many gay priests as possible (for their own gratification, as well as to subsequently support their agenda of making the church more “gay-friendly”). The back-lash was that seminaries in the US turned into bath-houses…it was that blatant, which forced straight seminarians out (when they would complain, the superiors would come down on them as “uncharitable” and claim they had repressed issues with sexuality). Thus, the pendulum swung in a very liberal direction within the Catholic church for decades, of course erupting in the major sex abuse scandals which were only halted by the reforms of Pope Benedict XII (he had proposed them and sounded the alarm as Cardinal, but was always brushed off). Of course, when he started to implement the reforms, specifically stating that no one who was sexually active could attend seminary, this was seen as a blatant attack at gays (even though it applied to straight seminarians as well, obviously) and the media constantly bashed him as anti-gay throughout his papacy. All cause and effect here.
Kev57
I’m a little suspicious of “Knight.” I am a liberal Catholic (Yes, I know, an oxymoron.), and he’s the type that trolls more progressive Catholic websites as an adamant “Trad Troll.” What gives it away? A love of the closeted Benedict XVI, bishops deliberately bringing in gay seminarians, the Church “swung in a very liberal direction.” Hell, how can anybody say with a straight face (no pun intended) that the Catholic Church has EVER moved in a “very liberal direction”?
jd.cali
Many of you are ignoring the complexity of these situations. You’re acting like it’s simply two gay priests having sex… it’s not.
Priests have a long history of molesting children.
Priest (or teacher) to student sex is morally wrong. It’s an abuse of power plain and simple.
Homosexuality in the Catholic Church was and is considered a mortal sin. And up until recently a very serious shameful act.
Priests are supposed to be bridges to god on earth to Catholics.
These are the same men preaching hell and brimstone to the “sinners”- often guilting to be ashamed of themselves.
Priests take vows of chastity…
The hypocrisy is staggering. The guilt and internal conflict they create to a believer, let alone a child, is soul crushing.
BigJune
I’m a non believer, was educated uptown middle school Roman Catholic – but, I’d sign up for this!
Can I go for a few days & try it out?
Don’t believe still, but I can shout ‘oh my God!’ when the time is right.
They are all hypocrites.
Aires the Ram
Well, isn’t this like a lot of either ‘all-male’, or male dominated “societies”, where male homosexuality is against the ‘rules’, as printed, but is alive and well behind closed doors? The Catholics weren’t the first, the only, and most certainly won’t be the last to structure their society this way.