Is controversial rapper Tyler the Creator coming out — or simply trolling everyone, as is his wont?
His upcoming album Scum F**k Flower Boy is scheduled to come out on July 21, but it’s already leaked online and the lyrics to several songs have made fans believe he’s about to make a major announcement about his sexuality.
According to High Snobriety:
The most interesting takeaway from the leak is the album’s lyrics, which can be interpreted as Tyler coming out. As well as pointing out the album’s name itself perhaps being indicative of this, Twitter users highlighted bars such as, “I been kissing white boys since 2004? on “I Ain’t Got Time,” and the album’s seventh track “Garden Shed,” featuring Estelle, where Tyler raps, “That was real love I was in, Ain’t no reason to pretend” before spitting “All my friends was lost / They couldn’t read the signs / I didn’t want to talk / I tell ’em my location and they ain’t want to walk” later on in the song.
At this point, it’s hard to know how much of his tongue is planted in his cheek, or whether any of this is to be taken seriously. He’s been toying with people’s perspective for years regarding his sexuality, as seen in this 2015 tweet:
I TRIED TO COME OUT THE DAMN CLOSET LIKE FOUR DAYS AGO AND NO ONE CARED HAHAHHAHAHA
— Tyler, The Creator (@tylerthecreator) April 13, 2015
Last August, he had this to say regarding rumors that he was dating Kendall Jenner:
NOT POSSIBLE, WE'RE BOTH GAY https://t.co/xoCXLyThPv
— Tyler, The Creator (@tylerthecreator) August 16, 2016
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Highsnobiety also transcribes the lyrics to the first verse of his song “Garden Shed,” speculating that the garden shed is the closet and “Frank” is Frank Ocean:
Garden shed, garden shed, garden shed, garden shed
For the garden
That is what I was hiding
That is what love I was I in
Ain’t no reason to pretend
Garden shed, garden shed, garden shed
Garden shed for the garcons
Them feelings I was guarding
Heavy on my mind
All my friends lost
They couldn’t read the signs
I didn’t wanna talk and tell em’ my location
And I didn’t wanna walk
Truth is, since you kid, I thought it was a phase
Thought it would be like the Frank poof, gone
But, it’s still going on
Big fan of the base 10
Polk a dot nose how it goes
Had to keep it on the subwoofer
A couple butterflies when I float
I was always like ehhh
Barely interested, but I went to my boys like bruh
This is a crucial subject matter
Sensitive like cooking batter
‘Till the temperature that’s rising
Stepping on that ladder
Tryna grab the rings of Saturn
I’m a plant it by the time you hear this
Chittin’ chatter bout to heat it
It will not fucking matter
Tyler’s lyrics have sparked controversy over and over again and was blasted by GLAAD over use of the word “fa*got” (which he used 213 times on his debut album).
“I’m not homophobic,” he told NME at the height of the controversy.
“I just think ‘fa*got’ hits and hurts people. It hits. And ‘gay’ just means you’re stupid. I don’t know, we don’t think about it, we’re just kids. We don’t think about that shit. But I don’t hate gay people. I don’t want anyone to think I’m homophobic.”
Talking to MTV, he said:
“Well, I have gay fans and they don’t really take it offensive, so I don’t know. If it offends you, it offends you…If you call me a n—a, I really don’t care, but that’s just me, personally. Some people might take it the other way; I personally don’t give a sh–.”
And here’s what he told Arsenio Hall:
”That’s just a word, you can take the power out of that word. The way that I see things, it’s you chose to be offended if you care more about stuff like that. And that might sound very ignorant, but if you’re a black person and someone calls you the n-word and you get offended, maybe you might be. But if I know that I’m not a n-word…I’m not gonna get offended because I know that I’m not that. Frank [Ocean] is gay and I use that word all the time. He doesn’t care because he knows me. He knows when I say that word I’m not thinking of someone’s sexual orientation. It’s just another word that has no meaning.”
It’s worth noting that in 2015, Tyler starting selling a t-shirt on his website, which he says aimed to make a statement against homophobic by putting his own spin on a white supremacist symbol:
On Tumblr, he explained his thinking behind the shirt:
It was a period in time where all i wanted to do was read about different dictators across the world. The way that one man could control so many brains always intrigued me. This opened a door to a lot of things, one of them being the Nazi regime during the 40s. Soaking my brain with as much info as i could on the subject, i pondered to myself if there was anyone still pushing this Nazi propaganda during these days? That is when i came across Neo-Nazis, The Ku Klux Klan and The White Nationalist Community. To make it simple, its just a group of Caucasians who take pride in being white. Nothing wrong with that correct? But the weird thing is that its primarily supported by White Supremacist organizations.( KKK, Aryan Nation, Etc) Now it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that these guys aren’t fans of Blacks, Gays, Asians or anything else that doesn’t fit in “white” box.
Now having the thought process that i have, i asked myself some questions: What if a black guy wore this logo on a shirt? Would he be promoting self hate? Would he be taking the power out of a shape? What if a gay guy wore this on a shirt? Would he promoting Homophobia? Then BAM! I Had it. Throw a little rainbow in the logo ( i still wonder, who was the guy that said a rainbow is the gay symbol? thats another article stay tuned) and take a photo with a white guy in it and we have an amazing photo. The thing that tops it off is the homo erotic tone of the hand holding, which to some degree HAS to piss off the guys who takes this logo serious. This made the photo even more important to me, because it was me playing with the idea of taking the power out of something so stupid. Or maybe my whole idea on this is stupid. Who knows, but why not try it out?
Also, ever since my career started, ive been labeled as a homophobe, simply because of my use of the word faggot. Again, trying to take the power out of something, I WAS NEVER REFERRING TO SOMEONES SEXUAL PREFERENCE WHEN USING THAT WORD. I mean, i’m legit one of the least homophobic guys to walk this earth but, most people just read the surface. But maybe someone will see this photo and say “ hey, he’s just mocking gays” or “ this has a negative undertone to it, he is still pushing this homophobic whatever the f–k it is”. What ever it is, i just wanted to give you guys some background info on the design before you purchase the shirt. You should know what you are wearing. be safe, love. RACISM F–KING SUCKS golfwang.com
Here’s what he said to Larry King in 2014 about a gay rapper:
Now, Twitter is speculating whether this is an elaborate publicity stunt or the real deal:
The homophobes when they realize Tyler the creator is queer and they’ve been feelin him for years pic.twitter.com/0h2TCIiJwa
— p (@kinkytchalla) July 10, 2017
Tyler the Creator in 2011 vs Tyler the Creator in 2017 pic.twitter.com/nsRCLpW9DQ
— evan. (@Circles) July 10, 2017
Tyler, the Creator coming out as gay is some of the least surprising yet very surprising news I've heard in a while.
— young old man (@_aspiringadult) July 10, 2017
Think Tyler The Creator is really coming out, or are we being trolled? Sound off in the comments below.
“Notoriously homophobic”? That’s just a lazy attention grabbing title, don’t you think?
I don’t think I’ve used the f word 213 times in my whole life, and he said it in one album. It generated a lot of negative press, hence the “notorious” part.
So what? How many times has Ted Cruz or Rick Santorum been heard saying the f word?? I don’t think you’ll find anyone more anti-gay than those two, save the rest of their ilk. So what else has he done besides say [email protected]? Who was it geared towards? Kids of his generation simply do not care about the sting of words like that one or “ninja” or biyotch or “tardy for the party” or any other word that will get my comment flagged on Queerty. So there’s nothing “notorious” here… just a lazy writer who probably has never listened to on Tyler the Creator song in his life or even seen his shows.
It generated a lot of press from a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites who scream bloody murder over the use of the f word, but somehow want us forget the history of “queer” and wear it proudly. I am simply not interested in debating semantics over a word being used while ignoring the context of its use. Yes, the title is lazy, and the research is even lazier.
Since what has Tyler the creator been considered homophobic.
Just gave him great free publicity. Now will gays buy it to see if he comes out?
I won’t. I won’t even sample it.
Hell no. You wait for that one person to buy it and then put the free tracks on YouTube and SoundCloud
I have no idea what his sexual orientation or sexual preferences are. And I don’t care. I’m completely over these celebs and pseudo celebs who use questions about their sexual identity and sexual behavior as a way to build a public persona. No matter who they actually are or what their behavior is none of them give a rat’s ass about us. The stable-minded celebrities living gay lives will mostly stay closeted. And if they do come out (or are forced out) they’ll always be a whiff of internalized homophobia and shame. While narcissistic inherently hetero, gay and bi men will continue to use sexual image, sexual identity and sexual behavior as a tool for manipulation and for attention and to indulge their egos. None of these guys know how to keep it real. They’re not capable of it, because it’s all just a game, and most are either out their minds or (if they are gay/homo-dominant) have a ton of internalized homophobia. And none of these things are gonna change.
Also, he’s not much of a rapper.
I’ve never heard of him and it seems unlikely that I’ve missed anything interesting. Carry on….
He started out as a member of Odd Future. Some of their music is pretty enjoyable. His lyrics have been both homophobic and misogynistic, but he wouldn’t be the first homophobic and misogynistic (closeted/DL) gay man, and he won’t be the last.
It’s probably just me, but that title angered me a bit. Tyler was never homophobic. We know of his friendship with Frank Ocean and also his friendship with Syd tha Kyd a fellow odd future member who is a lesbian. Tyler is an individual who used the controversy to gain attention. His intention was literally for noriety and attention and obviously it worked. In their teens Odd Future would say the most ridiculous things they could think of, but it gained them a fanbase. When I was in high school I was picked kkn for no only being gay but for being a so called weird black kid. Tyler mase it cool to be a weird black kid(taste of music, movies,nerdy things etc), and suddenly everybody embraced being weird That’s why it bothered me and why despite being gay I’m goimg to defend homophobic” Tyler.
PRINCE OF SNARKNESS aka DIVKID
Yes, I don’t see how anyone can surmise that he’s homophobic.
As typical….. I’m reading his “lyrics”, and they don’t make any damn sense. I recall pulling up some lyrics from Lil Wayne, and I tried to put them in the Google language translator cuz that’s what it felt like. Like I was reading another language. Haha.
They seem pretty clear to me. Do you ever read poetry? He’s imagery and metaphors, not writing an essay.
Rap is total garbage and they have a Grammy for it .Really ! A bunch of no talent foul mouthed arm waving monkeys . As they say people now days have poor taste for shit and pay for the trash !And most are VERY homophobic look up the lyrics to some of there so called music If you can call it that I own a LPFM station and its banned from the air .
No genre is more homophobic than any other. There are just as many homophobic rockers, country & Western, Heavy Metal and any other music genre out there.
I can’t stand rap either, but there sure are some real cuties in the business
Not a fan of Tyler so I’m not defending him he’s trash like the rest of straight folks. But y’all are so full of sh*t in here. When Teen Wolf boy fake came out y’all were giving dude a pass and saying maybe he is. When that boxer bullied a queer kid and posted the kids pic online saying some homophobic stuff about him, y’all gave the boxer a pass saying he’s closeted( he’s str8) and y’all would give him some. When another celebratie fake came out weeks ago( the article is on here. I gotta find it) y’all were defending them. And let’s not forget Andrew Garfield. Wonder what they all have in common that y’all were giving them passes so easily?? Hmmm?
Why do you make everything about race? Those people received a ton of internet-wide criticism, much more so than Tyler is getting. And the reaction here was mostly the reaction to the criticism those people received. And I don’t really see much hate in this comment section. Racism is a thing. And internalized homophobia, hetero-worship and self-hate runs greatly through a large percentage of homo and homo-dominant men. But you’re reaching with linking this up to those situations. My post is really the only truly critical one I see.
I’ve always been of the opinion that as a celebrity or semi celebrity or wannabe celebrity that unless you’re gonna be completely straight-forward and honest about who you are and your motivations then be quiet. Everything else is just prattle and narcissism. I know that I’ve always been greatly critical of (white) guys like Nico Tortorella and James Franco who use sexual identity and sexual behavior for publicity and to indulge egos while never being straight-forward about their attractions or motivations.
Oh please tell me Tyler is gay. He’s way, way, WAY too pretty to be straight. I’d love to fid out my fantasies about him are true. I fall asleep every night wishing his gorgeous body was laying next to me.
Better question: Did notoriously homophobic rapper just pull a publicity stunt for his upcoming album?
Stunt or not, he seems a bit confused, but he’s got lots of company with that. If he is gay/bi and is coming out, good for him. If this is a publicity stunt, f*ck him. If he thinks repurposing white supremacist symbols is effective, he’s clueless. I’ll wait to see the new album’s videos on YouTube. Rap, BTW, is not garbage, especially the rap produced from the 1980s through the early 2000s. The best rappers of those earlier eras show how you can fit deep poetic lyricism to music and beats.
Oh puh-uh-lease. He and that attention whore Nico Tototorlini need to get a room.
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