NY Archbishop Timothy Dolan’s Marriage Phobia Is Crazy Talk To More And More Catholics

New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan this week made the case against gay marriage because, hey, he can’t legally marry his mother either. But as Lawrence O’Donnell noted last night, even Catholics increasingly think Dolan’s views are horribly outdated: New polling data show 43 percent of U.S. Catholics support same-sex marriage rights, and 31 percent support civil unions.

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  • GetBalance

    Being raised catholic, going to Catholic school, being an alter boy and dropping out of going to church at 18 out of sheer boredom, I can unequivicably say Catholics in general are very liberal and non chalant about fundie rhetoric, and vote against that ideology.

    We’ve been around long enough to see the writing on the wall and most are rationalists when it comes to picking and choosing reality over dogma on most issues, tho the clergy does not.

  • Armand

    I’m totally Catholic and fabulously gay.

    Seriously folks the two can coexist along with the sparkles.


  • GetBalance


    That makes two of us along with 100s of thousands of others. Woohoo!

  • mudgeboy

    Consider this: the population of catholics in the world can be considered to take the shape of a house, so draw a triangle and underneath the triangle draw a rectangle. Now, everyone in the triangle is male and dictates policy for everyone in the rectangle beneath them. Also, not only is everyone in the triangle male, but they are also celibate and they comprise the priests, bishops, cardinals, and the chief bigot, the pope. Now everyone in the rectangle is a “lay person,” which doesn’t mean what you think! The “lay people” are all of the men, women, boys and girls in the rectangle and they are under the jurisdiction of the church hierarchy in the triangle and the women in the rectangle have no hope of ever being in the triangle. Does that sound strange?

    So, for example, you have celibate males telling all of the people in the rectangle how to live their lives, who to love, when they can have sex (only for procreation), whether their sexual acts are an act of love, how they should handle their bills, how they should raise their children … Does that seem strange to anyone?

  • Jeffree

    It’s not my liberal Catholic neighbors who frighten me, it’s the Catholics on the Supreme Court, in Congress & serving as Governors or state Sen.s/Rep.s. It’s Catholics like Maggie Gallagher & Brian Brown and the Catholics who refuse to allow us to adopt, who voted for Prop 8 and who turned a blind eye to the abuse that was committed by priests.

    I’ve known three wonderful RC priests & a couple oustanding nuns who work tirelessly for social justice. 2 of those people have left the Church on their own accord, and another has been censured AND basically been silenced.

    I’ve no doubt that the Church will change its position on marriage equality, but it will be hundreds of years before that happens. Look how long it took them to exonerate Gallileo, to say that Jews didn’t kill Christ, and to agree that Eden was just a metaphor!

  • Chupa Chups


    yes, you are stupid fat donkey!

  • Gigi

    I love it when Lawrence gets riled up. The way his nostrils flare. The slightly crazed (but sexy) look he gets in his eye.

  • Pete n SFO

    Long posts are SOoooo boring… keep it short & sweet, gurlz!

    Yes, Mudgeboy & Jehfree…. I’m talkin’ to you.

    It’s the Internet, not the NYT Opinion page. :)

    Verbosity is not always a virtue.

  • JusticeontheRocks

    @Pete n SFO: Did someone stick a gun to your head and force you to concentrate on something longer than 3 lines, junior?

  • Jeffree

    @Pete N SFO: then stick to reading me on Twitter. 1800+ followers. Join them.

    You’re confusing a blog comment with a text msg. Easy mistake, for a moh-ron.

  • Cam

    The Problem is, people like Scalia and those other Opus Day Catholics, to say nothing of the Pope give the rest of the leity a bad image.

    I think Jocelyn Elders was right on the money when she mocked an all male celebate organization for trying to have a say over issues that they obviously had no experience or dealings with.

  • Pete n SFO

    blah, blah, blah

    blah, blah, blah

    I take up space on the Internet!!!

    That makes me relevant, right?


  • Brian Miller

    Yet challenge those same “pro-equality Catholics” to demonstrate their convictions by ceasing donations to the “Church” (which uses them to defend pedophile priests and to fund anti-gay political campaigns worldwide) and they get all defensive and bitchy.

    I don’t care how “progressive” and “pro-gay” you *say* you are. If you donate money to anti-gay causes, you’re only slightly, marginally better than a raving member of the Phelps clan. Actions are much more important than words.

  • Brian Miller

    @Pete n SFO: You take up space in real life, too, which makes you a bit of a tragedy!

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