New York-based author Chris Johnson insists he never had any issue with being an atheist nor a gay man. But when he saw the impact religious orthodoxy was having on his queer friends, he became inspired to create a book of photographs of and interviews with various prominent atheists.
The result, A Better Life, has been drawing attention and enthusiastic reviews since its release last year. Johnson, a film-school graduate and theatre enthusiast, followed up with a documentary film of the same name, in which he talks to a cross-section of atheists about their philosophy and how being godless has left them no less fulfilled or intact as people. Interview subjects include musician and actor Adam Pascal (Rent), celebrity rock climber Alex Honnold and actor, comedian and SNL alumnus Julia Sweeney. The result is a moving meditation on what life means if we step away from the conventional answers offered by the world’s religions, both big and small. Johnson recently chatted with Queerty about the book and film A Better Life.
Queerty: America is still a very religious place. How much resistance and criticism have you had with this book and movie?
Chris Johnson: Due to the fact that my book and film have a fundamentally positive angle, I get less open criticism from religious people. If I had made a film called Fuck You God, the pushback would have been a lot greater. I think many religious people are taken aback by such a positive message, and don’t know how to react. However, the ideas presented in the film and book are pretty controversial. In the United States, many people think that without God, you have no moral compass, or that you must be missing something important in your life. Often, we are seen as grumpy, curmudgeonly people, and I wanted to challenge that stereotype and show atheists discussing the big questions in life and living a beautiful life — free from the constraints of religion and theism. If you think this is the only life you have, it affects how you view your life and the world around you. If there is no God up there pulling the strings, or influencing the world, it’s up to us to make the positive changes we want to see and improve the lives of others.
Do you feel there’s a connection between your sexual orientation and your atheism?
I was lucky — I was never religious and never had much of a struggle accepting my sexual orientation. However, many of my friends in the LGBT community who grew up in religious environments faced enormous struggles accepting their sexual orientation or gender identity. The constant obsession with controlling peoples’ sexuality through religion always baffled me. It’s amazing to me how much people seem to care about the consensual sexual practices of others. It’s really sad how religion can make people care about the wrong things. We have a country right now where people are spending millions of dollars, enormous resources, time and energy trying to stop consenting adults from getting married just because a religious book tells them it’s wrong. What a complete waste of time. If only we could use all those resources to actually do something good in the world.
Was there an odd lesson you learned from any of the many people you interviewed in your travels?
Probably the thing that stuck with me the most was something Julia Sweeney talks about in the film. She mentions reflecting on the happiest moments in your life and how, at the end of the day, these memories are all we have to look back on. That really stayed with me throughout this journey. I’ve tried to be in the moment more when traveling and savoring the moments along the way. It can be difficult to not get lost in the day-to-day rat race of life, but it’s important to take a step back sometimes and savor the moments you’re living. As John Lennon once said, “Life is what happens when you’re busy making other plans.”
Why do you think there’s still such a passionate anger with atheism?
Well, I think there’s a good reason to be angry. Religious influence still has an enormous negative effect on this country and people around the world. LGBT people are committing suicide, people are being killed, rights being trampled on — all in the name of religion, and those are things we need to stand up against and try to change. I think that anger can be an effective tool in creating change and is completely understandable given the situation we are in. However, one of the reasons I started this project in the first place was to add to that conversation, a piece that I felt was missing — that was the positive side of atheism. We can talk about how the others get it wrong until we’re blue in the face, but if we don’t talk about how we get it right, we’re missing a huge part of the conversation, and that’s what I’m trying to show with this film.
Do you ever think of getting a T-shirt made that reads “GODLESS QUEER”?
[Laughs] No, but I should! I wonder where I would get the most amount of flack for that?
What’s the strangest question you have ever got at a question-and-answer session after a film screening?
Most of the questions at the Q&As have been really great. The film has really resonated with people around the world, and I’ve been struck at how people from various background have been moved by the themes and messages of it. In terms of the strangest question, at one screening, a woman noticed that I was wearing glasses at the screening but did not wear glasses in the film and asked me if that was a deliberate choice. I said yes. [Laughs] It was just easier that way.
For more information on Johnson, his book, film and dates for screenings and speaking engagements, go here.
Watch the film’s trailer below.
Xzamilio
Yes!!! More of this. That moment I became an atheist was one of the most freeing and burdening moments of my life. Realizing that I only have this life to look forward to made me kind of sad, but then it was letting go of all of the iron age superstitious woo woo gobbledygook was just liberating. Realizing that the doubts I was having were just me using my brain and reasoning and rationalizing the lack of evidence for any of the crap in the bible. There are some great religious people in the world and they are attempting to bring a more modern view to the barbarism of most of these outdated beliefs… but alas, this venture only serves to demonstrate how man-made this crap really is.
And no, I ain’t plugging my blog… I just am happy to see something about gay atheists. I’m also an admitted anti-theist… but that’s another story lol
Kelly Sugden
So sick of the strident label applied to atheists. Yeah, they may be terse, but one gets sick of the constant barrage of bullshit that comes when a grown adults goes from rational to irrational thinking due to mythical sky creatures.
Leonard Woodrow
Splendid work! The world has been too long under the influence of religious and cultural influences. A breath of fresh air and enlightened thinking can lead the way to a better world, free from the bigots and their cruel treatment of an inoffensive minority.
Love is what life is about!
jwtraveler
That’s my kind of man.
I’m a “Godless Queer” and proud of it.
OzJosh
This looks like a timely antidote to the recent barrage of hate and bitterness from religious extremists…
And great to see Julia Sweeney is included. For anyone looking for a joyous, liberating account of a journey from the burden of religion to enlightenment I highly recommend the audio CD of her one-woman show, Letting Go of God.
o.codone
@Xzamilio: Dude. I think you missed the point. The guy is putting out a positive message that people can hear. He wants to promote his beliefs by not name-calling, ridiculing or mocking other peoples beliefs, but by just putting his stuff on the table in a non-confrontational way so others can have a look. You on the other hand get all “iron age superstitious woo woo gobbledygook”, and why? Because that’s how gays do it. Something like, How dare you call me a fa*ggot, I’m not going to take insults from you, you cu*nt. Yeah guy, get the message, or at least have the wisdom not to open your mouth. Stop calling the kettle black. (oh, did I say something wrong?).
Billy Budd
Fabulous. I am gay and a radical atheist.
Billy Budd
Please read “The God Dellusion” by Richard Dawkins. You guys will learn one thing or two about god and religions and the nature of human beings.
chaddyboy6
Yawn. Gay atheists. What a shock.
gaym50ish
I think he may have misunderstood the fourth question: “Why do you think there’s still such a passionate anger with atheism?”
The “passionate anger” I see is the vitriol that religious people direct at anyone who is “godless.” They see it as our desire to be completely immoral without suffering any consequences, or they accuse us of Satan worship (as if anyone who doesn’t believe in God would believe in Satan).
I have read the works of Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and other atheists I agree with. And I have read books such as “Forged,” in which Bart Ehrman shows us just how much of the Bible was forged by holy men down through the centuries. But I have also read almost all of the King James Bible itself and am puzzled that so many people can believe in it so fervently.
The Old Testament is obviously the work of early priests who simply made up stories to explain things we now understand. Was the “rain of fire” on Sodom and Gomorrah a punishment from God? No, it was more likely the breakup of a meteor that landed in the Alps. And the New Testament seems as if it were invented just to create a new religion. Did Jesus even exist? Prominent historians of his day never mentioned him, so the Bible is the only account of his life, and it is highly suspect.
Xzamilio
@o.codone: Good for him. I do, however, like the “name-calling” and “ridicule” because it is a system deserving of ridicule. Whether you’re sunshine and unicorn farts, or piss and vinegar, you’ll find that you’re going to have a hard time reasoning with fundamentalist lunatics, especially when you have those that have forfeited reason and logic to believe in iron age nonsense… or woo woo sky daddy gobbledygook. If I had to choose between being ridiculed for having stupid beliefs and having my rights denied to me because of said stupid beliefs, I’ll choose the ridicule. But, you go ahead thinking there’s some balance between religion being used to oppress and mocking religions that oppress.
So, why don’t you follow your own damn advice and close your mouth… or at the very least, point that cow manure dispenser in any other direction than mine… love the subtle racial jab at the end. Been loving those ever since I uploaded a profile pic.
Xzamilio
@o.codone: I’ll mock anyone’s beliefs if they decide to present them in a public forum, especially those lacking any sense or evidence. I wouldn’t have to give a shit about other people’s faith if they weren’t so damn keen on pushing the shit out like it’s a turd and the world is its public toilet. “Non-confrontational”… I guarantee you, any way you put it out, those religious fundamentalists will view it as an attack on [insert god here]… fucking idiot. The point was there and I saw it… YOU however are a jackass.
mmedesevigne
I’m baffled. These folks are devoting enormous amounts of time and energy to something that, according to them, doesn’t exist? You’ll have to take my word for it, but I have a doctorate in Philosophy and an intense interest in this debate, and I have heard ALL the arguments advanced in favour of atheism. They are not rationally sustainable: they are the fruit of personal opinion, psychological trauma, lazy thinking, or whatever. Logic teaches very clearly that you can’t prove that something doesn’t exist. If it makes you feel better, fine, but give me a break. (And no, I’m not an evangelical nutbar.)
Xzamilio
No, they devoting enormous amounts of time and energy to challenging the individuals who believe these beings exist. It isn’t the gods that are the problem… it’s the unproven assertions and systems built around them. And I doubt you have heard the arguments, after listing that nonsense. It’s borderline insulting to those of us who have dedicated time to researching religion, ancient and current… some of us — at least me — used to be believers. Atheism doesn’t need to be “sustainable” because it is literally the lack of belief in a god… nothing more.
“Logic teaches very clearly that you can’t prove that something doesn’t exist.”
It’s the fact that no one has ever proven a god of any kind exists that dispels that nonsensical notion. I don’t need proof to disprove the unproven.
Xzamilio
Hitchens’ Razor: That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
Bauhaus
@Xzamilio:
Aha, you read Hitchens. Have my copy of “God is Not Great” around here somewhere… Sam Harris is a good watch on YouTube, but I haven’t read any of his books. It’s always a hoot to watch these guys take down the religious kooks. If I had to label myself, I’d say I’m a secular humanist.
Xzamilio
@Bauhaus: Honestly, if I had to label myself — atheist is just an easier one to explain — it would be theological noncognitivist. I am past the point of rejecting a belief in a god… if you cannot even rationally define a god into existence, I’m not interested in entertaining the notion… at least not beyond the sake of argument. Agnostic atheist is something that would describe most atheists, though. I saw a lot of individuals in the clip that I actually admire — Matt Dillahunty and Tracie Harris are two individuals I give most of the credit to for dropping the logic hammer on my ass. Their show is based in Austin, not too far from me.
Bauhaus
@Xzamilio:
They are the best! I watch them when I’m in the mood for a real ass kicking! Watching sports doesn’t do it for me, I like brain combat.
Xzamilio
@Bauhaus: I know right? The Matt and Tracie combo is the best for me… or Jen and Tracie and Matt and Jeff. Ashley Pierren was the eye candy for me… sexy bald bastard. This was the video that just solidified it for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66LQYYafEcE
Clark35
@mmedesevigne: Exactly, they are also just as hypocritical as Fundementalist religious people that they claim that they’re completely unlike, or the funniest are the atheists that think that they are LOL “Radical”. SMH.
I have friends who are atheist but they don’t go around telling everyone “My name is…and I’m Atheist!”, telling people that are not atheist that they’re wrong/stupid/etc., and going on about how other people have to read those nutter Dawkins, Hitchens, and others.
gaym50ish
@mmedesevigne: If you did, indeed, study logic, you would know that the burden of proof is on those who claim that there IS a god and that the Bible is his “word.” There is no need for atheists to attempt any proof of His non-existence.
Atheists simply point out that there is no way to prove that an all-powerful spirit rules the world. And unless the alleged God decides to announce his presence for all the world to see and/or hear, there will be no proof forthcoming. That’s why it’s called “faith” — which is nothing more than a belief in something that can’t be proven. Faith should not be considered a virtue but a self-deception.
Some people believe in God because they prayed and feel that their prayers were answered. But the guy who survived the plane crash and thinks it’s because he prayed to be saved is forgetting about the dozens of others who prayed just as hard and were killed. The guy was actually saved by the randomness of events and the laws of physics.
bodie425
@Clark35: If it was up to people like you, Stonewall would never have happened and we’d still be cowering in the closet, hoping no one ever opened the door. Xzamillo has it right. We have to stand up to this ridiculous mythical nonsense and call it what it is: A LIE! The smart Atheist knows when to push and when to shove, and when to hit hard (and when to run, to fight another day.) That’s the difference between us and them, we’re smart enough to know the difference, usually.
The kids who are becoming adults in this age are seeing through religion and naming it truthfully, a lie. It gives me solace to know that religion is dying. As a 52 y/o gay male who grew up in the shit-hole religious south, a teenaged boy who couldn’t even look himself in the mirror because of disgust, a teenaged boy who would have ended his existence in a heartbeat if he could have, I fucking hate religion. Hate it for the pain and death it’s caused our brothers and sisters.
bodie425
@Xzamilio: Everything you said, I experienced. I came out of both closets in one fell swoop and have never looked back, except to snicker. I cannot believe I fell for that load of bull. I remember in a Sunday School lesson when I was about seven years old, we learned about God hardening Pharaoh’s heart when Moses was asking to let the Jews go. I remember thinking, “why did God harden his heart–Pharaoh said the Jews could go.” That was the start of my disbelief, I think. It still took another anguishing 16 years to let it go.
XZ, If I wasn’t so desperately in love with a nominally christian chocolaty stud muffin, I’d drive to Texas right now and beg for your black as a kettle ass to be my man. Keep fighting my brother.
BigG
Godless queer also. Sanity over delusional!
Alan David Smith
the assumption is that every person gets to the same place through the same path. only when we realize we dont and accept that in others will we truly get it.
o.codone
@Xzamilio: Thank you for calling me names, I knew it was coming, you have validated what I already knew about you. So go ahead and hate me for defending the evangelicals. It’s okay because I hate you back. For all the reasons you already know about, starting with that pic. I know you said rac*ial, but I’m sure you meant rac*ist. So be it. I don’t care.
Finally. “they came for the gays, and I did nothing because I wasn’t gay”. When the Imam comes for the gays, I’m pushing you to the front of the line because of all the hatred you have generated against others. What you’re doing isn’t free you know. The Imam is on the way and go ahead, mock his woo woo sky daddy and we’ll see what happens to you.
Xzamilio
@o.codone: Okay… you went beyond full retard and found a new color, dude. Fuck off, moron.
o.codone
You have made my point emphatically ! You said “Retard”, “Moron”. But how dare anyone call you Fa*ggott or Nig*ger, right? You have shown yourself for who you are. Dude, you will get what you give.
Tracy Pope
The trailer looks interesting. A nice breath of fresh air. The back-and-forth here in the comments? Mmm, not really…
Xzamilio
@o.codone: You wanna call me F**got or the N**ger? Have at it… I’ve been called both of those and they have about as much effect on me as a spray-tan… the joke being my black ass doesn’t need a tan. I think I’ll just put in the category of Cam and Giancarlo and just forget you exist on this site. Consider this my last reply to you.
1EqualityUSA
Flesh is inanimate without spirit. Our heart is a diode, housing the spirit. Why have we been sent into dust? Is flesh the result of God’s judgement? Manifested clay, condemned to death. We are able to speak.
Our words define us. Words are powerful. Spirit casts into dust and the dance begins. The futility of the world, this elaborate illusion.
The grey zone between flesh and spirit germinates. Faith is a gift. Molecular? Chemical? A peptide? A nano-influence? Grey matter aligns, tugged by the heart. Eyes to see and ears to hear and a free will. Where faith arises, flesh is the lesser of the two. Paul said that our understanding would be incomplete. Christ spoke of it. Described it, spelled it out. Guidance was given on how to overcome it. Sift through the chaff, the nuggets are there. I speak with my spirit when I say that the flesh loses its hold. Ego is tapped. What a solid looking table. Soup, our spirits move through this.
Is flesh a hard-copy data of everything we bring to this realm? Every motive, every thought, every action, every word our mouths release, utilizes energy. It is with our spirit that we navigate. Flesh is a fingerprint. We manifest. The impetus is a pull, this temporary life, this gelatinous pudding. Jesus instructed us to move beyond the confines of our flesh. We must have been seen. Pointing out flaws in a cave painting? The art is established, true. A synapse brings forth the compatible. Love was preached. It has always been about the spirit, not the vessel. Liberty is a vantage point outside of this petri dish. Ego loses its charm. Death loses its grip. We navigate the illusion, using incomplete maps, a different perspective, and faith, given. I asked for help and it was given. For me to be closeted about this spiritual experience would be a lie of omission. I won’t lie about myself to anyone, as this would be an artificial relationship. Good advice is a treasure, climb or soar. By leaps, even a life well lived is time served. Our Father spoke of the spirit.
Dansktex
I would like to answer the interviewer’s second question in relation to me: No, being gay and being an atheist were not tied together in my life.
I can recall the timeline of events that led to my deciding I was an atheist, and NONE of the incidents on that timeline related to my being gay. They all related to hypocritical acts by religious people and to analytical thoughts in my mind. Eventually, it was reasoning that made me an atheist.
Anytime I am asked why I am an atheist, I give this response: I feel that religion was created by people to guide society in the way they thought best for the group. I believe that religion was also created by people because of their intense interest in trying to have a reason for why we exist. And, finally, I believe that religion was created by people because they don’t want to accept that this life on earth is all there is.
As an atheist, I have no problem accepting that knowledge of why we exist is beyond the present capability of the human mind. I am happy to enjoy this life as all there is. And I try to be a good person who treats others fairly and kindly.