Queerty is better as a member
I listened to his denial and I don’t buy it. I have empathy for his situation but I don’t buy it.
Kevin Lanflisi needs to put up or shut up. The ball’s in his court now.
As for the word ‘gay’, it’s such an ugly word now. It doesn’t mean anything anymore.
If Kevin Lanflisi releases a sex tape of the two of them polishing each other’s poles, then I’ll believe it. I really don’t care either way.
So both men deny being gay and yet Queerty continues to try and bully them out of the closet. Who wants to be bullied into being a member of any club. I am a out gay man, going to a Catholic college and that’s my choice. It’s their choice how they want to live. They aren’t hurting anyone. Queerty you guys need to back off with this crap.
Does this grown man who is a millionaire have a male roommate or not?
@Scribe38: Bully? How tired.
@Scribe38: Both men haven’t denied anything. Lanflisi has not made a statement and hasn’t posted to his twitter account for the last 10 days even with the rampant speculation going on. He’s not denied any of the gay rumors which he could have easily done right away. He’s been silent but apparently there’s an expiration date on that silence.
This is gay stalking…the thing every Christian fears and talks about….
Once again Queerty makes TMZ look classy by comparison…
On an average day there’s 500 stories on Kim Kardashian and the whole clan’s dating life including the Kris & Bruce Jenner divorce & on who Miley Cyrus is dating at the moment. all complete with flashbulbs and car chasing paparazzi. But somehow a gossip site writing about the dating life of a football player is stalking, lol. These are just words and the freedom of speech I hear sooooooo much about so the so called fearful Christian really just have to learn to deal.
@xzall: he posted on twitter that he was looking for a good woman. I don’t think a lot of gay men do that. :) @DShucking: I thought I left “he’s gay” in high school. Sexual orientation is a very personal issue. The man says he isn’t gay yet queerty is basically calling him a liar. Why post pictures and ask the public to decide what they believe?
@xzall: I don’t agree or like when media goes after who is screwing who. I wouldn’t include people with reality shows because who they are dating is part of the show. No has the right to OUT another person. I was outed by a cousin because she was caught having sex with a girl (I am not the only one). I dealt with the bomb she dropped, didn’t deny anything but never shared another thing with her again. I barely say hello at family functions because it wasnt her place.
Why does an actor, ballplayer, reporter owe the public anything about their private life? Roger is known for banging local strippers, how does that effect how he throws a ball? If he was face down for the roommate how does that effect how he throws a ball? U know that is why he gets paid right? Not by what he offers up of his life for queerty readers. Half you guys had no clue what he even did for a living before this wk.
This is either a case of wishful thinking or Rodgers is a closet case.
But if it’s the latter, do you really want to claim him as part of the community? I realize he’s a celebrity & a pro sports player, so supposedly he has a lot to lose by being open about his alleged gay orientation, but it’s the freaking 21st Century, & we’re not living in some hell like Russia. If Rodgers really is gay, he has a lot of power to change attitudes here in this country, but he has chosen to stay in the closet. Don’t we want only people who have the courage to come out?
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Denying just raises suspicions, remaining silent just increases the credibility of all this breathless speculation.
i just find the picture you chose for him and destiny newton amusing. i mean theres a picture of her sitting on his lap, them at her sisters wedding in which her sister calls them a family and she seems to have a large ring on her ring finger, them all over each other in the ocean, or the various other ones on google. he said he isn’t gay, i think hes telling the truth but even if he isn’t, let him be.
Quite honestly, I don’t care if he is gay or not, closeted or not. I also can’t help but think that this problem is really both of their making. He is famous – interest in his life is heightened. He’s not obligate to share anything – but he chose to do so.
AR talks about KL in a very unusual way for someone to talk about their assistant. AR chose to hug his assistant first after winning the SuperBowl – not one of these girls he claims to have been dating. He took his assistant as his “date” to multiple ESPYs. KL, on the other hand has a bunch of tweets which imply a certain closeness between them. The ring thing, btw, is a ridiculous “proof” of anything – I have a massive collegiate ring that draws the eye and people ask me to see it all the time. Most try it on. It means nothing.
My point in all of this is that they made the choices to disclose that information – both of them. They can’t complain when they get asked about it. Raymond Burr was closeted for most of his life – its how he chose to live his life. He didn’t parade his ‘assistant’ or lover in front of the tabloids – when he died, most people were shocked to discover his hidden life. RB clearly wanted to live his life that way – his choice. But he lived his life in a way that allowed that information to stay hidden… he managed his fame.
Neither AR or KL owe anyone anything. But they also laid the groundwork for the questions they are getting. No one should be surpised by the questions that have been raised.
@Scribe38 The private lives of all media stars including sports stars are always discussed in media sites. Look at how the story about Dwayne Wade, his new baby, his baby mama, and whether he cheated on Gabrielle Union or was on a break is being discussed and dissected in endless detail. Look at the harassment given to Brady with the whole Bridget Moynahan baby and break up to be with super model Giselle story. All those were discussed no holds bar by countless sites with very little cries about just let him be.
Compare & contrast how that was covered over how this story about Aaron Rodger is covered & you’ll see he’s being treated with delicate kid gloves all full of stammering apologies. ‘Oh we’re so sad Mr. Rodgers that you even have to deal with this icky question about whether you’re gay or not.’ If this was a story about Rodgers and his female assistant having a falling out with her publicly tweeting her displeasure, there’d be no cries about leaving him alone so lots of double standard going on here.
And if the story is true (as said on other sites) that there was a lot of lawyers and agents involved insisting that Aaron needed to get control of these rumors stat and that Lanflisi was indeed offered money to keep quiet, then I’d say that’s something to look into because that would fly in the face of the NFL recent supposedly pro gay player stance.
No one should ever be denied the right to out himself/herself. Let’s move on.
Kevin was not the first person aaron hugged after he won the super bowl. he hugged his teammates and his family on the field. also, Aarons older brother often goes with him to award shows too, clay Matthews has gone too. aaron has said he wants to keep his private life private, and he has the right to. he keeps his life with destiny private, other than pictures and a couple videos. it just seems odd to me that a guy who is so private would be completely okay with bringing a guy who is supposedly his boyfriend to award shows. I do think aaron and kevin were very good friends and had a falling out, but nothing more than friends. also, do people forget about this tweet?
Kevin Lanflisi [email protected]
On nights like tonight, I’m certain the girl of my dreams is somewhere in a poetry lounge.. Wondering if I’m out there.
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!
@xzall: I don’t care who Wade screws unless he is climbing in my bed. Are you complaining that the press doesn’t out gay stars enough? Rogers is a top ranked QB who can win games, gay or str8 he will keep a job as long as he can throw. His people get paid by him throwing a ball they don’t give a crap if he likes boys. I hate GB. I don’t like Rogers as a player (comes off as a jerk) but the man has a right to his own life. There are a number of teams that would take Rogers if he came out as gay because he’s a winning QB. He isn’t Collins on the tail end of his career.
Don’t get me wrong Collins is a brave upstanding man, but his career was already over. Sure there are organizations that don’t want a gay player. But if Wade or Rogers came out of the closet they are a big enough commodity to over come the inbred anti-gay framework of the sports they play.
As a Third generation Packers fan, I gotta say, I don’t care if he sleeps with Destiny, or Kevin or someone elae entirely. He converted on three consecutive 4th downs, and was smart enough to be the first to realize he fumbled and someone should get the GD football and make a touchdown. For all I care, he can take a dump in a potted plant on the Today show tomorrow morning and as long as he bounces out the 9ers come Sunday, he rocks.
The thing about women is that they do NOT like it if their boyfriends have had a partner of the same gender in the past. Women are VERY intolerant of male homosexual relations in that context. If homosexuality means the “funny gay guy who lives next door’, women might be OK with it but they are NOT OK with it if it’s their boyfriend – ie the man they’re having sex with now.
This points to a very interesting observation about women : they are extremely intolerant depending on whether a certain situation puts them at a disadvantage in terms of their power-plays with men.
Note, for instance, that women will sometimes say they are bisexual to titillate their male partners. In this context, female bisexuality is indeed a power-play which puts a woman at an advantage. That’s because it enables her to use her sexuality – fake or otherwise – as a ploy to obtain a reward from her male partner. This could include a financial reward.
This tendency of women to exploit double standards – such as the bisexuality double standard I’ve referred to above – is proof positive that women drive homophobic attitudes towards men in particular. Guess who enabled women to exploit this double standard? Liberals, that’s who.
^^ Really? Is it always the same post? Every freaking time? I have to ask, what happened in your life to make you so hateful toward women? I do not get it at all.
I am no more hateful towards women than I am towards men. Do you call me “hateful towards men” when I criticise men? I didn’t think so.
We in the gay male community – in fact all of us men – need to be unafraid of criticizing women when it’s deserved criticism. We should be able to criticize them without fear or favour.
And Ted Haggard is also not gay.
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How ironic that Aaron Rodgers says “I’m not gay” and the gay community shouts, “Liar!”—based on the remarks of a single individual.
But when Obama is accused of the same deceit, suddenly the accusers are “homophobes”—despite being based on the testimony of many individuals.
So what can we take away from this? Apparently, that closeted sportsmen are selfish and evil, but closeted liberal politicians are benign and should be left alone.
I don’t knwo if the rumor is true or not, but I do have to say that Queerty and a lot of other gay men posting here don’t understand straight male friendships. It’s analogous to the way some straight men can’t conceive of platonic friendships with a hot woman.
All of the so-called “evidence” Queerty brought up are explainable as wishful thinking forced upon what could be a straight bromance. It brings up the question of why it is so important for some gay men’s self-validation that some jock be out.
I read Queerty and sometimes I can’t help but notice the bully tactics it resorts to for reasons I can’t quite understand. Is covering this story meant to shame him into coming out, something parallel to what Perez Hilton used to do? Everyone comes to terms with their sexuality on their own, at different times based on their experiences. So I don’t really understand the interest here, or the mean-spirited comments levied against this man, both by the writer of this post, and commenters on this board. Is this site simply about gossip, spreading rumour, and humiliating people who up until this point lived fairly private lives? I think sometimes, the editors of Queerty need to think hard before they publish stories that affect the lives of people they don’t even know. If you want common decency and respect, then you should demonstrate those qualities yourselves.
@BJFrisky, funny how you republicans must bring Obama into every discussion. Obsessed much?
On another note, this is all completely ridiculous. The guy says he’s NOT GAY, he’s NOT GAY. Move on people. It’s starting to look really desperate now as if the gay media such as Queerty is hoping that he is in fact gay. Until something substantial other than vague tweets come along, we go by his word. Even if by the stroke of lightening he is gay, its none of our business.
Gay or not…Big deal…What I find more interesting is all you guys that bash Queerty but here you are everyday…Why are you here..? Oh that’s right you just love to bitch.
@tjr101: Is anyone/everyone who disapproves of Obama an automatic Republican? The answer is no, and neither am I—just think of me as a Obama atheist. If it’s easier for you to label me as a Rightie, that’s fine, but for the record, I am not.
And no, I’m not obsessed, just disgusted at the double standard given when outing Person A is acceptable—triumphant, even—but outing Person B is disrespectful and bigoted. And I agree with you about Rodgers—we should take him at his word and move along.
What a relief for his homophobic father. Now he can hold his head up in public again and they won’t have to sue afterall.
@BJ McFrisky: Even with Obama’s duplicity which is not uncommon for all politicians…He has been the most vocal president on gay rights in history…I don’t think a person should be outed and I am sick of these queens calling Rodgers a liar…It’s like they have a pathological need for validation…I am all for positive role models but this really has gone too far.
@BJ McFrisky: Really??? You’re comparing Obama, a politician who has shown more support for the gay community in his actions than any other president. What is there to out about that? And given your history of defending those on the right (Republicans), you may not call yourself a republican but I’m sure you vote that way. But then again, I understand the shame in calling oneself republican.
@AuntieChrist: Agreed, wholeheartedly, especially with your line of people having a “pathological need for vindication.” My problem with Obama has nothing to do with his actions regarding us (believe it or not, I do view him as an ally in that respect), it’s his lack of leadership and accountability while running the country that bothers me. This Emperor’s new clothes don’t exist, either.
@BJ McFrisky: I said validation…When you are raised in a society that judges and condemns you for being yourself..ie (a gay person) it can cause serious harm to a persons self-esteem…It’s the subconscious manifestation of that which some call self-loathing.. Ergo..If so and so is gay then I must be OK…Of course you know all that, It’s my day off and I’m bored LOL
@BJ McFrisky: I guess that’s why everyone is so obsessed with this football jock…That and the fact that we gay men tend to behave like teenaged girls.
@tjr101: “The guy says he’s NOT GAY, he’s NOT GAY”
Wow – when did John Travolta start commenting here?!
@redspyder: Lol, nice one. You’re so perceptive.
right- because denying you’re gay is always the truth…like Tom Daley, Lance Bass, Wentworth Miller, Matt Bomer, Matt Dallas, Neil Patrick Harris all once denied they were gay or refused to answer the question.
Frankly- I hope is he straight…he called it one of ‘those silly rumors…’ I’ve never found being gay silly…!!!!!
@dougmc92: he called it one of ‘those silly rumors…? That sounds really gay..LOL
@aces1218: “Kevin Lanflisi [email protected]
On nights like tonight, I’m certain the girl of my dreams is somewhere in a poetry lounge.. Wondering if I’m out there.”
Poetry lounge? Well that proves it – Kevin at least is NOT GAY!
At the root of his “uncool” comments and so much of the posts on here is a basic concept: homophobia. If we did not live in a homophobic environment, it would not be a big deal whom we were and are attracted to. Because we do live in a homophobic, heterosexist and heteronormative environment, any desires or sexual behavior that does not conform to whatever norms are in place gets condemned, especially if it is by people of the same sex, racial and ethnic minorities, religious minorities, and of course women.
If Rogers isn’t gay or bi or DL, so be it. It is not “uncool” for someone to speculate, based on the postings of his “roommate,” that he might be gay. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG OR BAD OR SHAMEFUL ABOUT BEING GAY, OR BEING THOUGHT TO BE GAY. The problems come not from being gay, but from homophobia and heterosexism.
Rogers really could do the world of sports and a lot of gay people on here a huge favor by saying that while he isn’t gay or bi or DL, he does not have a problem with homosexuality, and is secure enough in his manhood, sexual orientation and gender identity not to be bothered by suppositions, based on what appear to be clear clues of a relationship with another man, that people speculating about him being gay isn’t a big deal.
Just worth noting and sorry if it might have been posted already ESPN has a video of Aaron Rodgers doing some charity work overseas. Interesting.
I don’t believe anyone who is famous and makes tens of millions a year would have a same-sex “roommate.”
It makes no logical sense.
Have a personal assistant? You pay them to be there at 5 in the morning. Why would you want them living in your house?
It just makes no sense.
… after having had had listened to that interview more than once, I can only say, to Mr. Rodgers and his ilk, ????????? ? ??????.
^ My bad. Who knew Queerty would disallow Greek text?
In short, and in English-friendly format then, John 11:35.
Why do the words, “I did not have sex with that woman,” come to mind??
Just because you’re not gay, it doesn’t mean you’ve never had homosexual relationships or experiences.
It is possible to distinguish between being gay and having had homosexual reltationships/experiences, especially in the minds of those who don’t want to be associated with the politics and life-long commitment to the gay lifestyle/social scene.
And, guess what? It’s a perfectly valid distinction. Deal with it.
This simply proves what I’ve always said among friends. Outing is a waste of time. It is a personal journey, if he is indeed Gay, he is not ready to come out. Leave the man alone.
Saying “I’m not gay” is very different than saying “I didn’t have sex with that man.”
Like it or not some people choose to use the word “gay” in the context of certain behaviors (other than sex) and associations / community participation.
So you go to bars, pride parades, have lots of gay friends, etc. – you’re gay.
You’re 30 with lots of money and could be with any / many women you want but instead live with a guy you call a roommate, who you take to events that would typically call for a female date, go to Bieber concerts with and with whom you clothing coordinate BUT you also play football at the Pro level, have almost exclusively hetero friends, and go to church, etc. – you’re not gay. Maybe you’re just a guy who has sex with guys, but you’re not gay.
What is a “homosexual male”? Is it someone who has sexual relations with women but who engages in same-sex activity occasionally with men? Does having one same-sex experience compared to, say, ten opposite-sex experiences constitute grounds for calling a man “homosexual”? Why not call him “heterosexual”? After all, he’s had more heterosexual experiences than homosexual experiences.
The questions I pose above are important because they expose the fraud and folly of the modern gay rights movement in America. The modern gay rights movement in America is not about wanting to understand sexuality. It’s more about telling people how to think.
@jimbryant: You’re teasing at the differences between homo, hetero and bi. Seems as though if the overwhelming majority of your experiences are with one gender, you call yourself either hetero or homo. That said if a fair number of both, call yourself bi, just don’t expect anyone to believe you. We live in a society that wants easy answers. A guy who has the need to suck an occasional dick even though he’s mostly a pussy hound will get labeled gay.
I don’t care what OTHERS call him. I care more about what is actually going on intellectually. I don’t live my life – or base my reasoning – on what everyone else says or does. If everybody else is jumping in a deep lake, I don’t follow.
Yes, people WILL call a man who occasionally sucks penis “gay”. But that is NOT an intellectual point of view. People who resort to such name-calling are low-brow and lazy. I’m not interested in what the low-brow and lazy say except to rebut them.
@jimbryant: What’s going on intellectually is we have a pro sports superstar with some atypical behavior.
The most likely explanation of the atypical behavior is that Rodgers is hiding a homosexual relationship, not necessarily that Rodgers is exclusively homosexual. The available circumstantial evidence points to the former. Without a declaration of the latter, we’ll never know.
Obviously there are other potential explanations, but I’m an Occam’s razor kind of guy, i.e., you have to make a whole lot more assumptions to think Lanflisi is not the gay lover of Rodgers. Is it possible he’s not? Yes. Is it likely? No.
Hope I’m not about to have a jimbryant moment*- This used to be a respected place for gays (both in the closet or out) to come and read news that affects us. It should never be used as a publication to bully a man out of the closet. If Aaron Rogers is gay, it’s his flipping business. Again, coming out is a sacred thing to the LGBT community. I would think we, of all people, should respect that. Queerty has no right to simply hammer this Aaron Rogers is gay thing into the ground. Shame on you.
@xzall: Last time I checked, Aaron Rogers has explicitly said he’s not gay. If he’s not ready to come out (even if he is actually gay) who are we to push him to do so.
I don’t have a problem with Aaron Rodgers saying he’s not gay even if he had had a homosexual relationship previously. Having a homosexual relationship does not make a man “gay” any more than having a heterosexual relationship makes a man “straight”.
However, where I DO have a problem is if Aaron Rodgers denies having had a homosexual relationship if he did actually have one. Then, it becomes a question of honesty regarding a specific event. In these circumstances, I believe we are entitled to call him out on it, especially when you consider that he was none-too-reluctant to declare himself as being “really, really into women”.
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@charwegl: @charwegl: If you re read my post you’ll see it doesn’t have to do with outing anyone. Someone was complaining that Queerty was continuing to cover this story and acted like Aaron Rodgers was being persecuted and I was pointing out that Aaron Rodgers is being treated with kid gloves in comparison to other celebrities. The moment Aaron Rodgers said he wasn’t gay the press backed off as if he’d said he had the plague. So Rodgers have very little to complain about. There’s no paparazzi following him and spying on his every move. Contrast that with the way Dwayne Wade is being treated and you’ll see the difference. No matter what Dwayne Wade said in an interview the press would still pursue his story. He doesn’t have the magic words that makes the press disappear–Not Gay.
And to be clear, I’m not in favor of outing anyone. But Queerty isn’t doing that. They’re just speculating about whether he’s being truthful or not & asking for opinions. The freedom of speech I keep hearing about.
@Richard: RODGERS COULD BE BISEXUAL. (I hope he is and comes out!) The above journalism, queerty and the radio interviewer, are downright dense for not seeing that Aaron Rodgers is not denying being BISEXUAL and attracted to men (too.) “I really, really like women. That’s all I can really say about that.” That is, he doesn’t want to say more than that about his range of attractions at this time. It’s very much a Bill Clinton parse like “There is nothing going on between us [right here in the grand jury room.]” And “It depends upon what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the—if he—if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement.” “Not gay” especially using his language doesn’t necessarily add up to “Straight.”
They look very cute together.
@xzall: They are doing exactly that. He keeps saying he’s straight. Isn’t that good enough? Not for Queerty. They keep speculating and posting this junk all over the internet and saying “maybe he’s straight” and then throwing in a slide comment.
@charwegl: charwegl, he has not kept saying he is straight–so far. He only said he is not gay. He left open the very real possibility he is bi but closeted.
Read Deadspins piece on Chris Kluwe and how he believed he was fired from the Minnesota Vikings for simply advocating on behalf of gay rights and you can see why Aaron Rodgers would come out saying he really, really likes women. Consider that Chris was merely an advocate and not even gay and he’s out of a job probably permanently due to that and you see why Rodgers is backing away from this as fast as he can.
And here’s what Chris Kluwe has said one of his coaches Mike Priefer said in a team meeting: “We should round up all the gays, send them to an island, and then nuke it until it glows.” The room grew intensely quiet, and none of the players said a word for the rest of the meeting. The atmosphere was decidedly tense. I had never had an interaction that hostile with any of my teammates on this issue—some didn’t agree with me, but our conversations were always civil and respectful. Afterward, several told me that what Mike Priefer had said was “messed up.” THis is the coach up for the head coaching job for the Vikings.
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