Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg (Photo: Twitter)
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has edged ahead of Joe Biden in a new poll of Democratic primary voters in New Hampshire. They were asked about who they wanted to see run for President in 2024.
A similar poll taken last June put Buttigieg on 18 percent and Biden on 17 percent.
That same poll from last summer found that 54 percent of Democrats wanted Biden to run again in 2024. However, in this latest poll, 66 percent said they did not want Biden to run again.
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A quarter (26 percent) said Biden should “definitely not” run again.
A similar number (27 percent) said they thought Biden should “definitely” or “probably” run again.
Despite facing recent challenges in his role as Transportation Secretary, Buttigieg also enjoys a high approval rating. He scored 69 percent, placing him just behind Elizabeth Warren (71 percent). Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezi came third with an approval rating of 66 percent—well ahead of Joe Biden at 49 percent.
The poll quizzed 349 Democratic primary voters in mid-January, with a margin of error of 5.3 percent.
Former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg rose to national prominence with his run to become the Democratic Presidential nominee in 2020. He was the first out, gay man to campaign for the Democratic ticket.
Asked last September if he had plans to run again, he refused to say either way.
“You run for an office because you notice something about the office, and something about yourself, and something about the moment that adds up,” Buttigieg said at Vox Media’s Code Conference in Beverly Hills.
“And that process has been one I have used to decide to run for office several times, and it’s a process I’ve used to decide to not run for office several times. So who knows what the future is going to call me.”
The White House has previously said that Joe Biden intends to run again in 2024. Some commentators believe Biden’s age (he will be 82 in 2024) might turn some voters off him.
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Biden is doing a great job, but he’s too old to run again. Age will stop him from winning, even if he is the best candidate. I love to see Pete as president. He’s brilliant. Can he win though? We need to win because we saw what happens when we lose.
Cam: would you please stop with these paranoid “right wing troll account” accusations? If you truly believe it you probably need to take a break from social media and seek psychiatric help. And if you’re just doing it as some kind of puerile strategy to win arguments, it’s tired.
Cam-troll is back. Also back to his nonsense. Did cammy address anything I said? No. Did he attack me, and totally get it wrong? Of course he did. I have never defended Trump. I detest Trump. Have I acknowledged the rare times when Trump was correct? Like his focus on China as a threat? Yes. I can’t think of anything else though. Rational people can evaluate facts and reach conclusions irrespective of who may have said them.
I have one screen name. I am not right-wing. Cam, seek help,
I LOVE Joe Biden, and he has made EXCEPTIONAL progress repairing the damage caused by the floating, orange turd, but every time I hear him speak, he sounds older… and older… and older… and older.
I really wish he would not run again, but don’t think Pete is the person who can win in today’s toxic political environment. Frankly, though, I just don’t know who that person could be.
I wish they would trumpet more of Joe’s victories against very steep odds. He’s been getting it done. Strengthening Biden can only help us regardless of his running again or not.
So this is interesting. This data was collected after the the Southwest Airlines meltdown and I wonder how much better Pete would have done if this had not happened. (I’m unsure that he and the DoT have much blame in this, but Americans don’t ever seem to understand how the world works).
I find the AOC faction more interesting. I don’t think she could be a successful POTUS (or VPOTUS) just yet. It’s a good thing she’s young.
I love the idea of a president that is on the younger side of being eligible for social security. I wonder if that will happen again …
AOC is young. She made some big mistakes, which I attribute to her youth. She is very smart. She is not a viable candidate for president now. Given time to mature her policies and presentation skills so she comes across as thoughtful as apposed to a flamethrower, she might really be a star.
I’m an old Democrat (75) and I supported Biden and still do and he’s done a fairly good job, but I think he’s too old as well. This country needs some new blood and smarter candidates. Pete would be a great President, but face it ANYONE would be better than anyone the Republicans could put up.
If they put Trump up they should not put Biden up. A fresh and younger person like Buttigieg would have a better chance of winning. Two geriatrics battling it out when they could both drop dead at any moment isn’t exactly the best type of election. As I have said, there should be a cut-off age for running for office.
There are 330,000,000 people in this country. Why are all the candidates so awful? How can neither party find anyone? Biden and Warren are way, way too old. This is absurd.
I totally agree with you Brian. This country should be going to the polls with the hard decision of voting for the better of two candidates that almost everyone can love and be proud to have running this country. Somebody that was so hyped up about helping get the country back on track that you could vote for him/her even if they were not of your preferred party. Instead, we are faced with choosing the lesser of the evils and generally walking away disappointed in the prospects of our future. I lean Republican but I still remember my first time to see Obama when he gave an incredible speech at the DNC. He so impressed me and I knew then, we would see much more of this man. I personally believe he was the only leader this country has seen in recent history that truly wanted to improve the country more than have personal gains. I didn’t necessarily agree with some of his agenda, but he obviously believed it was best for the country and I can’t fault him for that. Surely out of the millions of citizens there are better choices than what we have been offered in the past 2 elections. I hate to sound like “one of those fanatics”, but we really need a good house cleaning, on both sides of the aisle, and replace them with people who truly care for this country more than their own agenda and political/financial gains. It is past time that every state opens their eyes and realizes it’s not just “the other states” that are sending worthless idiots to Washington.
Who really thinks this country would elect a married gay man President? Not in a million years (at this point in time). Buttigieg would make a brilliant president, but he is not electable to national office. There is still too much hatred/disgust/discomfort with gay men, even among Ds. I love Biden as well, but wish he’d announce he’s not running again and let the fight for the nomination begin. Now.
I hate to think that you are probably correct that the country isn’t quite there yet. More likely that a woman will be elected before a gay man. The D party is obviously torn over Biden’s age but as a person who strongly leans right, I know the R party is greatly torn over the still fairly large number of members who are Trump zombies and I strongly believe that if Biden and Trump go head to head again there will be much greater damage on the Republican side than on the Democrat side. Biden appears to be an unfavorable choice for many Dems, but there are a ton of Repubs who find Trump as an unacceptable choice. I feel Biden would be triumphant in another challenge by Trump simply because some Dems wish they had a better candidate but many many Repubs just wish we had a real candidate and not the fat narcissist who has already proven himself unworthy.
I really like Pete, but let’s face it, he was sidetracked into a very low profile cabinet position. How about secretary of state, interior, any job where he could really use his great brain. But no, interior, really. Power Dems dont want him in ANY job that puts him in the news every day. Why, because their flappin gums say we have no prejudices, their actions say otherwise. Pete or Kamala. Kamala brings black and women voters to the polls, millions and millions of them. Pete brings a few gay voters. He also galvanizes anti gays by the millions. I hope I am wrong, but as the country swings more and more wacko right wing nuts, Pete’s chances become dim. I’ll vote for him, work on his campaign, and donate $, and hope that there are enough enlightened voters. Remember boys, it’s a numbers game
The Republicans are on the path to self destruction, because either the tangerine Plampetine will win the Republican primaries and be the 2024 Republican nomination or he will run as an independent sucking up the base from the Republicans. This is how the Democratic nominees will win in 2024, and under these circumstances even a really old Joe Biden, complete with arthritic gait and senior moments, will squeek in. At least I hope so.
To date, Buttigieg has not won an election for a federal office. I still think he’d be a far better vice-president than Harris (who wouldn’t be?), and I think Biden should replace Harris with Buttigieg on the 2024 ticket. The good news there is that the nation will have its first openly gay president by 2029 at the latest.
Is this a joke or some kind of never ending nightmare, pete butteigig for president or any of the other liberal whacakadoodles? The liberals have proven they can’t run things (other than run them into the ground, in California at least and the last time I checked , they’ve done a damned fine job of turning many places into 3rd world sewers) in a well organized common sense and fiscally prudent way and if you’ve seen and smelled San Francisco, the calcutta, beiruit and new ‘doo doo;’ capital of the USA you’d get this immediately. pete buttegieg is responsible for the supply chain fiasco and hasn’t done ZILCH to fix things or get things moving and failed and the liberals want him or some other incompetent fool as their presidential nominee, give the thinking among us a much needed break. If you like the last 2 years with inflation not seen in almost 90 years, high food prices and shortages, gasoline and fuel prices going into the stratosphere, you need to get your heads out of yout asses. Most of us are sick and tired of this. And yes I’m gay and tired of having to deal with the BS conditions because the gay community continually and blindly supports politicians that treat them like walking ATM’s and play them for fools and what do the gay, Latino and black get for their votes: the silent treatment, the blow off and and the finger behind their backs and of course the old familiar ‘ the republicans are the boogeyman will take away your rights bla, blah blah) along with higher and higher costs of living (many of us aren’t tecchies or earn 6 figure salaries) all while the one time gay mecca, jewel of California becomes more and more like beruit, calcutta, mogadishu and port au prince And please no more Trump bashing, he had nothing to do with the current conditions. Most of us gay and straight are tired of hearing this BS, he’s been gone for almost 3 years and it’s time to let it go. You’ll be at peace trust me
You are right about the Democratic Party doing the minimum for LGBT and other minorities and cashing in on the votes…but you missed a few episodes because now the new monsters are Santos and De Santis. And I’m sure that most of the people who comment and read Queerty are financially well off.
The GOP will run on the Dems destruction of California, and they’ll discredit Buttigieg on his McKinsey past and disastrous handing of the airlines – there was so much more he could have done with the stroke of a pen to the point where even Bernie was criticizing him. Important to remember that Buttigieg was offered other positions and turned them down to position himself for a White House run. He chose that position. Inflation has more to do with profit taking by corporations after having lost revenue for two years due to covid but Dems are the scapegoat du jour and since media is owned by those same corporations then why not. Biden threw railway workers under the bus in favor of big business and for what? Seven days of sick pay. Sad. The corporate coup is over and they won. Democrats are now just Republican-Lite. Pelosi squashed an insider trading bill that would have helped us all but effected her husbands investment strategy and ruined the Pelosi Index used by Wall Street. Things are so bad that Hawley reintroduced essentially the same bill and renamed it the Pelosi Act. I’m a lifelong liberal Dem but even I have to admit that the Dems ineffectiveness is almost appearing as collusion with the GOP. Even a broken clock is correct more often.
No idea where to start. Ok, I’ll start here: Pete is a centrist, which is why I like him. So you really have not idea. California has experimented with some liberal ideas in their big cities and they have not worked. We can agree on that. They are now pivoting to new ideas that have a better chance. (Calling people living on streets “homeless” is the first mistake; or worse, the new nonsense term – unhoused. What a joke. Homelessness is, in most cases, a side effect of something more primal, like mental illness. Strategies that focus on housing are misses if the person is still crazy.) Still California continues to thrive economically. Unlike Alabama, which was and continues to more resemble a third world hell hole. As far as Trump goes, anyone defending that nasty, dumb man isn’t worth listening to you. So, I’m done with you.
There is so much to criticize in your post, Winemaker, that I will just say this: if you slept through 2020, when Don the Con was the president and crashed the economy, producing the aftereffects you decry in your post, then I can understand why you are clueless. But if you did not sleep through 2020, then what the hell are you talking about? Did you miss the millions of jobs we lost under Don the Con (much like under George W. Bush?)? Did you miss the social disintegration, including a surge in crime, that happened under his watch? Did you miss that he basically left the country to founder, from Covid-19 and the crashing economy, as he plotted his attempted coup to stay in office and wreak even more havoc? Do you not realize that inflation, the energy crisis, etc. are the DIRECT RESULTS OF THE END OF HIS PRESIDENCY?
And please don’t speak about “Latino and black” treatment, because the GOP is so horrendous that we actually see the real-time effects of their tenure in office: endless wars, social disintegration, economic crises, and grotesque enrichment of the already rich! If you don’t believe me, look it up. Those techies got insanely rich especially under the tenure of Don the Con, who with the GOP slashed taxes for the superrich and corporations, not regular people! Lastly, please don’t speak for “most of us gay and straight.” Don the Con hasn’t gone anywhere; he controls one of the two major political parties (cf. the House vote for McCarthy, which was just weeks ago, or did you miss that too?) and Trumpism affects not just the GOP but the larger society. It is a poison it is going to take a while to get out of the US body politic.
I like Joe, however, I can’t vote for a person in their 80s to be president. Just don’t know who the Dems can run and win with, sadly, Pete can’t win either.
This article might be the first time I’ve ever scene the words “Pete Buttigieg” and “tops” in the same sentence. Dude practically SCREAMS “masc4masc power bottom” to me.
We will get Trump all over again , just with a different face If DeSantis runs.then there’s banning books , abortion. Supreme Court leaving it to individual states to let same sex couples marry. Price of food and gas , astronomical rents or buying houses. Even buying a car…term limits for all house & senate. Every 4 Years out with the old guys in with the new…
All the Dems have to do to beat Chump or DeSantis is three broad don’ts:
Don’t ignore the concerns of the typical moderate, socially conservative leaning voter in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and WIsconsin ;
Don’t ignore moderates in general across the entire county;
Don’t cater to the far left.
Millions of voters who consider themselves moderates do not want DeSantis or Chump but will pull the lever for them in sufficient numbers if the far left, social narcissism agenda rules. See Queerty for daily examples. The result of that: The current Supreme Court. Good job on that one, Queers!
Yes, the current Supreme Court is the result not of an extremist, Russia-conspiring fascist being in office and, with the complicity of a right-wing US Senate cramming deeply flawed jurists on the Court, but the “far left, social narcissism agenda.” Are you serious? Like, really? Did you miss the last 6 or so years?
In case you missed it, Don the Con was not elected because of a “far left, social narcissism agenda,” but because just a sliver of White voters in a few states gave him more votes than Hillary Clinton, throwing the electoral college to him, even though he lost to her by 3 million total votes.
Those 50,000 or so voters were not fixated on anybody’s “far left, social narcissism agenda,” but very like were influenced by the consistent campaign against Hillary Clinton. In any case Don the Con’s right-wing push to cram the courts also wasn’t the result of a “far left, social narcissism agenda” either. One doesn’t have to be a “nutty progressive” to see this. But you keep believing that!
I’ll say this about Pete Buttigieg. He is a super-smart, very talented moderate liberal Democrat. He is no a leftist by any means, nor thankfully is he right-leaning on social or economic policy. I would vote for him over any of the current Republicans without blinking an eye, and that would even include very moderate Republicans like Charlie Baker and Larry Hogan, who both proved to be decent stewards of their liberal-leaning states. I say this because even the marginal differences in politics count, like whether you end up with judges who are moderate to left, as we’re getting with Biden, or extremists, some of them rated unqualified and clearly incompetent, as we got with Don the Con.
Will a majority of Americans, particularly in enough states across the US, vote for an out gay White married man? I hope so. But I also realize how tenuous the situation is now, and it always has been. The GOP is waging war on LGBTQ people, especially trans people. One question I asked a few years ago was whether Buttigieg could win a run for a statewide office in his home state of Indiana, which is predominantly White and very conservative. He has now made his home state Michigan, and that state is more diverse and, by comparison, more liberal. Could he win a US Senate seat to represent Michigan? Or the governorship? I hope so. I have faith in the voters there. But we should never forget the country we’re dealing with.
Barack Obama’s victory in 2008 was the result of a unique set of circumstances, not least the absolutely disastrous record of his predecessor, Republican George W. Bush, which has mostly been erased by our national media. The other thing about Obama’s victory is that in 2008, Obama only received 43% of the White vote, a figure that dropped to 39% in 2012, yet he won both elections handily, by 9 million votes in 2008 and around 7 million in 2012. The challenge for Buttigieg would be to find a coalition that will support him; I believe it exists, and if he plans to run, he should start working hard to assemble it.
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LumpyPillows
Biden is doing a great job, but he’s too old to run again. Age will stop him from winning, even if he is the best candidate. I love to see Pete as president. He’s brilliant. Can he win though? We need to win because we saw what happens when we lose.
Cam
I love the stealth screenames the right wing troll account uses and thinks that if it tries to sound complimentary it won’t be noticed.
yeah…uh, Biden’s great, but he can’t run again…
Sweetie, you were less obvious when you just came in here screaming and defending Trump with every post.
still_onthemark
@Cam: Why would “the right wing troll account” say he’d “love to see Pete as president. He’s brilliant”?
All those Democratic primary voters in the poll who want Pete to run, they must be right-wing trolls too?
bachy
Cam: would you please stop with these paranoid “right wing troll account” accusations? If you truly believe it you probably need to take a break from social media and seek psychiatric help. And if you’re just doing it as some kind of puerile strategy to win arguments, it’s tired.
still_onthemark
@bachy: It’s not only tired, it’s SAD and WEAK!
Nomorjeans
totally agree. Mr Buttigieg is an amazing man and so brilliant. 100%
LumpyPillows
Cam-troll is back. Also back to his nonsense. Did cammy address anything I said? No. Did he attack me, and totally get it wrong? Of course he did. I have never defended Trump. I detest Trump. Have I acknowledged the rare times when Trump was correct? Like his focus on China as a threat? Yes. I can’t think of anything else though. Rational people can evaluate facts and reach conclusions irrespective of who may have said them.
I have one screen name. I am not right-wing. Cam, seek help,
RIGay
I LOVE Joe Biden, and he has made EXCEPTIONAL progress repairing the damage caused by the floating, orange turd, but every time I hear him speak, he sounds older… and older… and older… and older.
I really wish he would not run again, but don’t think Pete is the person who can win in today’s toxic political environment. Frankly, though, I just don’t know who that person could be.
LumpyPillows
I wish they would trumpet more of Joe’s victories against very steep odds. He’s been getting it done. Strengthening Biden can only help us regardless of his running again or not.
henare
So this is interesting. This data was collected after the the Southwest Airlines meltdown and I wonder how much better Pete would have done if this had not happened. (I’m unsure that he and the DoT have much blame in this, but Americans don’t ever seem to understand how the world works).
I find the AOC faction more interesting. I don’t think she could be a successful POTUS (or VPOTUS) just yet. It’s a good thing she’s young.
I love the idea of a president that is on the younger side of being eligible for social security. I wonder if that will happen again …
LumpyPillows
AOC is young. She made some big mistakes, which I attribute to her youth. She is very smart. She is not a viable candidate for president now. Given time to mature her policies and presentation skills so she comes across as thoughtful as apposed to a flamethrower, she might really be a star.
Mack
I’m an old Democrat (75) and I supported Biden and still do and he’s done a fairly good job, but I think he’s too old as well. This country needs some new blood and smarter candidates. Pete would be a great President, but face it ANYONE would be better than anyone the Republicans could put up.
LumpyPillows
Bingo.
Joshua333
If they put Trump up they should not put Biden up. A fresh and younger person like Buttigieg would have a better chance of winning. Two geriatrics battling it out when they could both drop dead at any moment isn’t exactly the best type of election. As I have said, there should be a cut-off age for running for office.
Brian
There are 330,000,000 people in this country. Why are all the candidates so awful? How can neither party find anyone? Biden and Warren are way, way too old. This is absurd.
Openminded
I totally agree with you Brian. This country should be going to the polls with the hard decision of voting for the better of two candidates that almost everyone can love and be proud to have running this country. Somebody that was so hyped up about helping get the country back on track that you could vote for him/her even if they were not of your preferred party. Instead, we are faced with choosing the lesser of the evils and generally walking away disappointed in the prospects of our future. I lean Republican but I still remember my first time to see Obama when he gave an incredible speech at the DNC. He so impressed me and I knew then, we would see much more of this man. I personally believe he was the only leader this country has seen in recent history that truly wanted to improve the country more than have personal gains. I didn’t necessarily agree with some of his agenda, but he obviously believed it was best for the country and I can’t fault him for that. Surely out of the millions of citizens there are better choices than what we have been offered in the past 2 elections. I hate to sound like “one of those fanatics”, but we really need a good house cleaning, on both sides of the aisle, and replace them with people who truly care for this country more than their own agenda and political/financial gains. It is past time that every state opens their eyes and realizes it’s not just “the other states” that are sending worthless idiots to Washington.
Peter
Who really thinks this country would elect a married gay man President? Not in a million years (at this point in time). Buttigieg would make a brilliant president, but he is not electable to national office. There is still too much hatred/disgust/discomfort with gay men, even among Ds. I love Biden as well, but wish he’d announce he’s not running again and let the fight for the nomination begin. Now.
Openminded
I hate to think that you are probably correct that the country isn’t quite there yet. More likely that a woman will be elected before a gay man. The D party is obviously torn over Biden’s age but as a person who strongly leans right, I know the R party is greatly torn over the still fairly large number of members who are Trump zombies and I strongly believe that if Biden and Trump go head to head again there will be much greater damage on the Republican side than on the Democrat side. Biden appears to be an unfavorable choice for many Dems, but there are a ton of Repubs who find Trump as an unacceptable choice. I feel Biden would be triumphant in another challenge by Trump simply because some Dems wish they had a better candidate but many many Repubs just wish we had a real candidate and not the fat narcissist who has already proven himself unworthy.
LumpyPillows
I share your concerns, but I also had them with Obama, and the country gladly proved my fears to be wrong.
greekboy
I really like Pete, but let’s face it, he was sidetracked into a very low profile cabinet position. How about secretary of state, interior, any job where he could really use his great brain. But no, interior, really. Power Dems dont want him in ANY job that puts him in the news every day. Why, because their flappin gums say we have no prejudices, their actions say otherwise. Pete or Kamala. Kamala brings black and women voters to the polls, millions and millions of them. Pete brings a few gay voters. He also galvanizes anti gays by the millions. I hope I am wrong, but as the country swings more and more wacko right wing nuts, Pete’s chances become dim. I’ll vote for him, work on his campaign, and donate $, and hope that there are enough enlightened voters. Remember boys, it’s a numbers game
Fahd
The Republicans are on the path to self destruction, because either the tangerine Plampetine will win the Republican primaries and be the 2024 Republican nomination or he will run as an independent sucking up the base from the Republicans. This is how the Democratic nominees will win in 2024, and under these circumstances even a really old Joe Biden, complete with arthritic gait and senior moments, will squeek in. At least I hope so.
To date, Buttigieg has not won an election for a federal office. I still think he’d be a far better vice-president than Harris (who wouldn’t be?), and I think Biden should replace Harris with Buttigieg on the 2024 ticket. The good news there is that the nation will have its first openly gay president by 2029 at the latest.
winemaker
Is this a joke or some kind of never ending nightmare, pete butteigig for president or any of the other liberal whacakadoodles? The liberals have proven they can’t run things (other than run them into the ground, in California at least and the last time I checked , they’ve done a damned fine job of turning many places into 3rd world sewers) in a well organized common sense and fiscally prudent way and if you’ve seen and smelled San Francisco, the calcutta, beiruit and new ‘doo doo;’ capital of the USA you’d get this immediately. pete buttegieg is responsible for the supply chain fiasco and hasn’t done ZILCH to fix things or get things moving and failed and the liberals want him or some other incompetent fool as their presidential nominee, give the thinking among us a much needed break. If you like the last 2 years with inflation not seen in almost 90 years, high food prices and shortages, gasoline and fuel prices going into the stratosphere, you need to get your heads out of yout asses. Most of us are sick and tired of this. And yes I’m gay and tired of having to deal with the BS conditions because the gay community continually and blindly supports politicians that treat them like walking ATM’s and play them for fools and what do the gay, Latino and black get for their votes: the silent treatment, the blow off and and the finger behind their backs and of course the old familiar ‘ the republicans are the boogeyman will take away your rights bla, blah blah) along with higher and higher costs of living (many of us aren’t tecchies or earn 6 figure salaries) all while the one time gay mecca, jewel of California becomes more and more like beruit, calcutta, mogadishu and port au prince And please no more Trump bashing, he had nothing to do with the current conditions. Most of us gay and straight are tired of hearing this BS, he’s been gone for almost 3 years and it’s time to let it go. You’ll be at peace trust me
Mike Hunt
winemaker … Sweetie, it must be awful to suffer from that much SPS. Get help. Now!!
Stefano
You are right about the Democratic Party doing the minimum for LGBT and other minorities and cashing in on the votes…but you missed a few episodes because now the new monsters are Santos and De Santis. And I’m sure that most of the people who comment and read Queerty are financially well off.
mastik8
The GOP will run on the Dems destruction of California, and they’ll discredit Buttigieg on his McKinsey past and disastrous handing of the airlines – there was so much more he could have done with the stroke of a pen to the point where even Bernie was criticizing him. Important to remember that Buttigieg was offered other positions and turned them down to position himself for a White House run. He chose that position. Inflation has more to do with profit taking by corporations after having lost revenue for two years due to covid but Dems are the scapegoat du jour and since media is owned by those same corporations then why not. Biden threw railway workers under the bus in favor of big business and for what? Seven days of sick pay. Sad. The corporate coup is over and they won. Democrats are now just Republican-Lite. Pelosi squashed an insider trading bill that would have helped us all but effected her husbands investment strategy and ruined the Pelosi Index used by Wall Street. Things are so bad that Hawley reintroduced essentially the same bill and renamed it the Pelosi Act. I’m a lifelong liberal Dem but even I have to admit that the Dems ineffectiveness is almost appearing as collusion with the GOP. Even a broken clock is correct more often.
LumpyPillows
No idea where to start. Ok, I’ll start here: Pete is a centrist, which is why I like him. So you really have not idea. California has experimented with some liberal ideas in their big cities and they have not worked. We can agree on that. They are now pivoting to new ideas that have a better chance. (Calling people living on streets “homeless” is the first mistake; or worse, the new nonsense term – unhoused. What a joke. Homelessness is, in most cases, a side effect of something more primal, like mental illness. Strategies that focus on housing are misses if the person is still crazy.) Still California continues to thrive economically. Unlike Alabama, which was and continues to more resemble a third world hell hole. As far as Trump goes, anyone defending that nasty, dumb man isn’t worth listening to you. So, I’m done with you.
Kangol2
There is so much to criticize in your post, Winemaker, that I will just say this: if you slept through 2020, when Don the Con was the president and crashed the economy, producing the aftereffects you decry in your post, then I can understand why you are clueless. But if you did not sleep through 2020, then what the hell are you talking about? Did you miss the millions of jobs we lost under Don the Con (much like under George W. Bush?)? Did you miss the social disintegration, including a surge in crime, that happened under his watch? Did you miss that he basically left the country to founder, from Covid-19 and the crashing economy, as he plotted his attempted coup to stay in office and wreak even more havoc? Do you not realize that inflation, the energy crisis, etc. are the DIRECT RESULTS OF THE END OF HIS PRESIDENCY?
And please don’t speak about “Latino and black” treatment, because the GOP is so horrendous that we actually see the real-time effects of their tenure in office: endless wars, social disintegration, economic crises, and grotesque enrichment of the already rich! If you don’t believe me, look it up. Those techies got insanely rich especially under the tenure of Don the Con, who with the GOP slashed taxes for the superrich and corporations, not regular people! Lastly, please don’t speak for “most of us gay and straight.” Don the Con hasn’t gone anywhere; he controls one of the two major political parties (cf. the House vote for McCarthy, which was just weeks ago, or did you miss that too?) and Trumpism affects not just the GOP but the larger society. It is a poison it is going to take a while to get out of the US body politic.
jackscott
I like Joe, however, I can’t vote for a person in their 80s to be president. Just don’t know who the Dems can run and win with, sadly, Pete can’t win either.
DMos
This article might be the first time I’ve ever scene the words “Pete Buttigieg” and “tops” in the same sentence. Dude practically SCREAMS “masc4masc power bottom” to me.
Terrycloth
We will get Trump all over again , just with a different face If DeSantis runs.then there’s banning books , abortion. Supreme Court leaving it to individual states to let same sex couples marry. Price of food and gas , astronomical rents or buying houses. Even buying a car…term limits for all house & senate. Every 4 Years out with the old guys in with the new…
Neoprene
All the Dems have to do to beat Chump or DeSantis is three broad don’ts:
Don’t ignore the concerns of the typical moderate, socially conservative leaning voter in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and WIsconsin ;
Don’t ignore moderates in general across the entire county;
Don’t cater to the far left.
Millions of voters who consider themselves moderates do not want DeSantis or Chump but will pull the lever for them in sufficient numbers if the far left, social narcissism agenda rules. See Queerty for daily examples. The result of that: The current Supreme Court. Good job on that one, Queers!
LumpyPillows
I agree, not that our more nutty progressive peers will agree or even attempt to understand.
Kangol2
Yes, the current Supreme Court is the result not of an extremist, Russia-conspiring fascist being in office and, with the complicity of a right-wing US Senate cramming deeply flawed jurists on the Court, but the “far left, social narcissism agenda.” Are you serious? Like, really? Did you miss the last 6 or so years?
In case you missed it, Don the Con was not elected because of a “far left, social narcissism agenda,” but because just a sliver of White voters in a few states gave him more votes than Hillary Clinton, throwing the electoral college to him, even though he lost to her by 3 million total votes.
Those 50,000 or so voters were not fixated on anybody’s “far left, social narcissism agenda,” but very like were influenced by the consistent campaign against Hillary Clinton. In any case Don the Con’s right-wing push to cram the courts also wasn’t the result of a “far left, social narcissism agenda” either. One doesn’t have to be a “nutty progressive” to see this. But you keep believing that!
Paul2
I’ll vote for him but only if he appoints at least one drag-queen
LumpyPillows
There are a bunch more drag queens better than Santos!
Kangol2
I’ll say this about Pete Buttigieg. He is a super-smart, very talented moderate liberal Democrat. He is no a leftist by any means, nor thankfully is he right-leaning on social or economic policy. I would vote for him over any of the current Republicans without blinking an eye, and that would even include very moderate Republicans like Charlie Baker and Larry Hogan, who both proved to be decent stewards of their liberal-leaning states. I say this because even the marginal differences in politics count, like whether you end up with judges who are moderate to left, as we’re getting with Biden, or extremists, some of them rated unqualified and clearly incompetent, as we got with Don the Con.
Will a majority of Americans, particularly in enough states across the US, vote for an out gay White married man? I hope so. But I also realize how tenuous the situation is now, and it always has been. The GOP is waging war on LGBTQ people, especially trans people. One question I asked a few years ago was whether Buttigieg could win a run for a statewide office in his home state of Indiana, which is predominantly White and very conservative. He has now made his home state Michigan, and that state is more diverse and, by comparison, more liberal. Could he win a US Senate seat to represent Michigan? Or the governorship? I hope so. I have faith in the voters there. But we should never forget the country we’re dealing with.
Barack Obama’s victory in 2008 was the result of a unique set of circumstances, not least the absolutely disastrous record of his predecessor, Republican George W. Bush, which has mostly been erased by our national media. The other thing about Obama’s victory is that in 2008, Obama only received 43% of the White vote, a figure that dropped to 39% in 2012, yet he won both elections handily, by 9 million votes in 2008 and around 7 million in 2012. The challenge for Buttigieg would be to find a coalition that will support him; I believe it exists, and if he plans to run, he should start working hard to assemble it.