This beefy bunch was captured at Brutus at the Faultline in Los Angeles by friend of Queerty Robert Sakatani. The Silverlake bar has a reputation for attracting the scruffier side of life, which would be a breath of fresh air to many gay Angelinos if there were any fresh air left in the city. For now, cut-offs and tattoos will have to do…
MikeE
They’re not “scruffy”. They’re what’s called “men”. Far too many gay guys seem to forget that at some point, it’s GOOD to grow up.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@MikeE: The first and second sentences of your comment basically contradict the third sentence.
Please, take your own advice.
TheRealMannequinAdam
And these photos horrify me.
Nate
The guy in number #13 on the far right is the best. And Yeah I agree @MikeE: Guys have hair and I don’t understand the trend of shaving it all off in the gay community. Hair can be very sexy.
ggreen
So many queens; one story.
RomanHans
TheRealMannequinAdam, you’ve been far stupider in other comments, but major props for trying.
Hwood
Hairy or not they’re still a pretty fug group
Joe
Yum! My kind of guys! Although I hold no disdain for any man who removes his body hair. To each his own!
TheRealMannequinAdam
@RomanHans: I’ll take your lack of specifics as evidence of not trying, not that I needed any.
Thanks.
Mike in Asheville
The fun thing about body hair is that it grows back.
This goes back 30+ years, my first experience with shaving was when two hairy beefcake construction guys shaved me smooth in the showers at the Steamworks/Berkeley. It was a hot and fun time — the contrast of their hairiness against my new found smoothness was very erotic as well as being watched by others as my hair washed away. A couple weeks later at the Steamworks, a naturally smooth guy approached me, told me he saw me being shaved, and asked if I wanted to join him so he could feel his smoothness against my regrown hairy chest. Also great fun.
Certainly we all have various turn-ons and turn-offs — but wtf is it that makes some take such angry attitudes about how other groom themselves. Its their choice, if you are not into it, why be so rude when you can simply move on to meet those who you find attractive.
I think the shaved tattooed boys in Pic 1 are hot and look like they would be fun; so too the hairy guys in Pic 13.
@Hwood: Rudeness, so much more than yphysicalness, now that fug. From the pics, its a fun night at a local bar — a scene repeated nightly across the country in gay, lesbian, and straight bars. What’s “fug” is snarky snide comments about you know nothing about. Oh, and don’t say I know nothing about you, your own post shows how rude you are.
Joe
@Mike in Asheville: Here here!!!
Ian
@TheRealMannequinAdam: What in those photos would “horrify” you? Just curious.
MikeE
@TheRealMannequinAdam: yeah, sorry you’re in a pedophile rut. I like men, not prepubescent boys.
soakman
These guys are very attractive, but being hairy does not make you a man (as opposed to a boy). They’re probably just as irresponsible and full of themselves as most people are.
Doesn’t mean I don’t dig the look. 🙂
Xtincta
Ummmmm I like my men shaved. No Thank-you. Y’all can have them. Furthermore Body Hair ? Manhood. That’s like saying High heels and feminine clothes = Womanhood.
The pro body hair people are sometimes no better than Misogyny men who treat women as nothing more than sexual objects.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@Ian: They look like they’re trying too hard.
@MikeE: Just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. Heaven forbid you “grew up.”
@Xtincta: Exactly – on all parts of your comment ;).
MikeE
@TheRealMannequinAdam: roflmao
you’re pathetic.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@MikeE: You set the tone for this thread with your comment. You couldn’t just comment on the photos, you had to insult those who don’t find that look attractive and don’t desire to look like that. The only person who’s “pathetic” is you.
Ruhlmann
Women shave their bodies. Men should only shave their faces.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@Ruhlmann: It was once thought that men who shaved their faces were trying to pass for and be women. Think about that the next time you reach for that razor, you insecure neanderthal.
Ruhlmann
@TheRealMannequinAdam: I can be square headed in the way I view masculinity and always am I consigned to insecurity by those who might be niggled by my opinions. I shave Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and for weddings or funerals so it isn’t a preference as much as social expectation. I have my own business and I deal mainly with women who tend to be more comfortable around men who are groomed. When I do shave I think about work, family, love mainly the things we think about when occupied with mundane chores, the historical context of shaving woudn’t interest me much. I am entitled to my opinions as you are yours without being abused with words and anger best left in the school yard. This is in fact “neanderthal” or just bad behaviour. Something for you to ponder perhaps when next you shave. Adieu
alan Balehead
they know their way around a gym…why is that a crime??
TheRealMannequinAdam
@Ruhlmann: Lack of point, taken.
Robbie K
Page 13 can get “scruff” with me anytime 🙂
hf2hvit
And once again, HOMOSEXUALS are their own worst enemy.
Jeff
These guys look like little boys playing at being men. Give me a REAL bear anyday, instead of these faux-hipster-cubs
Henry
@hf2hvit: I’m glad you put homosexuals in caps, it drove the point home better. It also draws my attention to the fact that they like people of the same sex. The word gay just draws my attention to the fact that they’re happy.
friend
It’s sad to read these comments and be reminded of how hateful we gays are to each other. I happen to know all of these guys and they are some of the sweetest, most down-to-earth men you’ll find anywhere. “Growing up” or being “manly’ is not a look. It’s a mentality and maturity. Some of you should remember that instead of childishly insulting people you don’t know.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@friend: Shut the fuck up.
Why is there always some informed cunt who comes along and tells everyone how sweet and nice the pigs are? I don’t buy that shit for one second. You’re all douchebags.
friend
@TheRealMannequinAdam: Wow, such anger, hate and negativity! That can’t be a happy or healthy life. For what it’s worth, I really hope someday you open your heart to the diversity we have within the gay community. I mean, we’ve been protesting heterosexuals for decades to accept “our diversity”. It’d be nice to practice it within our own community.
thatguy
I am in some of these pics and most of these men are my close friends..So was the general opinion that we are all douche bags? Im lost. All I know is we go out, have fun, dont hurt anyone..and in fact welcome all people to come party with us at these venues. Now where does douchey, self centered faux hipster come in to play?
JoeyO'H
@TheRealMannequinAdam:
You do not play well in the sandbox.
@thatguy: I don’t feel you’re all douche bags at all. By the photos, it looks like fun! Then, I must love scruff!
I personally like a man that looks like a man. Body and facial hair is sexy, for me. I don’t find a hairless guy sexy, it just reminds me of the chicken I just purchased at $2.99 a pound. It separates the men from the boys!
JoeyO'H
The men in #12 are hotter than hell! Woof!
Jack
I fucking love guys with Hair it’s one of the sexiest things ever and it’s actually a turn off when guys don’t have any but I wouldn’t call these guys “real Men” thats fucking stupid haha real men don’t look like this! they obviously put a fucking load of work in to their appearance and I would call them very polished not scruffy, scruffy men don’t give a fuck these guys obviously give a fuck
TheRealMannequinAdam
@JoeyO’H: What a disgusting analogy, comparing someone whose body isn’t a forest, to a chicken. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
@thatguy: “in fact welcome all people to come party with us at these venues.” Oh I’m so sure you do. That’s why there’s SO much diversity in appearance in these pictures, right?
Tony
Are you sure this is a gay bar?..I mean, these guys look like men.
Tony
After reading these comments, I have to say, my comment that these are “men” has nothing to do with body hair. I could care less if you have body hair or not. I’m just commenting on the fact they don’t have that “fem” look that too many gays have adopted these days..imo.
declension
@TheRealMannequinAdam: Well, fuck you. I was on your side at the beginning of this thread because I thought you were arguing against the idea that manliness and body hair are connected, but by now it’s clear you’re just a prick who thinks that shaved bodies are the only way to go. Fuck you for attacking the guy who was talking about the need for gays to stop hatin’, fuck you for acting like a little piece of shit on an internet comment board, fuck you for your dumb name. Adieu.
I think it’s fair to criticize the trend within gay rhetoric to discuss hairy men as “true men” and to treat those who are either naturally hairless or who shave as men trying to masquerade as boys. It’s a shitty attitude to take and it’s one that supports and is informed by sexist binaries; there’s no masculine ideal, don’t kid yourself.
MIke in Asheville wins this comment thread for acting like a human being.
Joe
@TheRealMannequinAdam: Stop being such a troll, live and let live!!!
TheRealMannequinAdam
@Tony: Well, thank you. That certainly helps. /sarcasm
Henry
@Tony: Fem is uncommon post-Stonewall. I don’t know what you have in mind exactly.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@declension: You seem to think I care whether or not all or any of you are on my side. Let me be clear that I do not
@Joe: I’m letting them live. They just happen to be pigs.
Jack
@Tony: These guys do not look like “Men” proper men don’t look like this! these guys are all tanned beefed up gym obsessed guys by the looks of it, I know loads of Gay guys that aren’t femm and they don’t go out of their way to have to prove it they just don’t give a fuck, I bet all these guys are obsessed with their looks and clothes etc. your probably just some self hating suppressed queen lol these guys do not look like ” real men” they look like characetures haha
ronnie
WOW! … who needs homophobic gay bashers when it seems we have enough in our own community to bash one another? i guess boys (irrespective of body hair or sexual identity) will be boys
scott ny'er
@Nate: That guy on the right is hella hot. I agree.
I didn’t click on any others but the ones in pic 1 aren’t so bad either.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@ronnie: More “bashing” comes from the gay community towards their own than anything else. And the cunts here are so desperate for approval from straight men that they try to imitate their looks, attitudes, and actions and then claim to be proud of themselves.
The goddamn cunts in these photos symbolize all that is wrong with the gay community. They segregate themselves according to their look, fling insults and rejection at those who choose not to look like that, and then play the victim once the poo is flung back on them. And in this thread we have some conniving worm who rushes to their defense, more than likely because he is one of them and is just standing up for his own pig posse.
This is the worst shit I’ve ever seen. Fuck all of you.
Alex
@ronnie: Keep in mind that this is the internet and people can claim whatever they want. Straight bastards will be bastards.
Jack E. Jett
A real man is measured by the size of his cock and his willingness to give it to me.
randy
Following this response thread has been depressing. That said, the Daddy in #13 is one hot fuck! To everybody else: take a chill pill, and be nice to each other!
Ruddigore
“…a breath of fresh air to many gay Angelinos”? Men in Silver Lake (it’s properly spelled as 2 words) have had this look for 20 years. Maybe the lights are a little brighter now at the Faultline than they were back in the old days at The Gauntlet or Cuffs, but the scruff and tatts and piercings are nothing new. Queerty seems very New York centric, and really doesn’t have any idea what Los Angeles is about. You see the same look in West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica and even The Valley.
Jack
yeah I agree Randy he’s fucking sexy!
JoeOmaris1btm
@Joe: Agreed! I do prefer natural dudes whether very hairy or little hair, however no problem with a guy who shaves..
JoeOmaris1btm
after all these years passing by it and never have stopped… maybe I’ll get the courage to go in… I wonder too if i would fit in…. please do comment, etc. thanks guys..
deejay
It’s amazing how other people’s preferred gender expression can cause such hate, vitriol, and anger.
thatguy
@the realmanequin..or whatever gay name you have. I’m sorry you didn’t get in the party. Try again next time.
jae
I LOVE THIS PICTURE….ITS MY FAVORITE…LOVE THOSE HOT SCRUFFY GUYS
Mike in Asheville
@Joe: Thanks!
Aaron
That’s what I call a man! HOT!
Pochola
the guy in pic #13 the one in the middle smells like fritos bean dip. Im just saying
knowbetter
I know a few of these guys as well. Most of them are actually very sweet and nice individually. Unfortunately they run in a pack, and as a pack they are not very nice. It’s a shame really. Maybe it’s a matter of insecurity. I’ll keep my friendship with them one to one.
ThatRandomGuy
*ThatRandomGuy loves when queerty does stories on bears* <3 scruffy MEN.
thatguy
I WANNA ASK EVERYONE A QUESTION…
WHO HERE WANTS TO PARTY WITH TheRealMannequinAdam???
MsJenkins
These pics are from a party called Brutus at the Faultline. She’s cute – don’t hate.
aerialview
Realistically, the majority of the gay community perpetuates a sense of masculine idealism that is many times far reaching for those who do not automatically fit that standard. We all suffer from discrimination in one form or another in our society and to make it worse, we carry it further into our own community. I think the initial defensive reaction to these photos, as I felt a bit taken aback, was that it is titled as “Scruff” in other parts of the country. Generally speaking, I and probably many others, feel that the “Scruff” community was a stem-off of the bear community which was reacting to that more superficial aspect of masculinity. It almost feels as if it’s a threat to display that form of superficiality that is so prevalent in gay ghettos like West Hollywood within a community that was initially formed to bring a sense of a casual and openness to our culture, especially intertwined with the hipster social movement which all contradict that objectiveness.
Ruhlmann
@thatguy: Only if I can shave him.
ronnie
@TheRealMannequinAdam: and still more vile and hatred!
Jonny
Is it just me or does the second guy in on the right in pic #10 have a nice bulge going on!!! 😉
James
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww WEHO muscle queens!
These guys don’t know what it means to be “masculine” since they shave/wax/trim their body hair. Yes they do look like they’re trying way too hard and are a clique.
As for their facial hair it’s WAY TOO SHORT to be considered “Scruff” and LOL most “Bears” are just fat guys who are femmey queens/ex twinks who grow “scruff” like the guys in this slideshow.
Ganondorf
Someone forgot to flush.
telltale
Yes! I know! :et’s all go about debating who qualifies as a “real man”! Even better!! Let’s do it based on photographs of people’s body hair! Woot, woot! Why bother being attracted to who we’re attracted to when we can do that AND state our opinions as facts, trash anyone who disagrees with us, and sit mightily in our desk-chairs knowing we have saved the world from someone’s “wrong-thinking” on the internet! Whew… what would the universe do with out you guys?
dustin
i like the way the guys look, i can grow facial hair but I cant really grow chest hair :(. I wish I could its a sexy look :), maybe one day haha. Looks like a good time to me .
m_Davis
These are 3 nice guys. Not cliquish, they dont even hang out as a group – 2 of them work there (Faultline in Silver Lake)– the night is called BRUTUS. What a bunch of judgmental fucking losers that troll the internet just to be negative. Get a fucking life already.
JoeyO'H
@TheRealMannequinAdam:
I safe bet you’re hairless, self loathing twink.
scott
So I’d imagine that you’re all a bunch of gorgeous supermodels? Please. Quit being such pigs! I’d much rather spend a night hanging in this club than any other club MannequinBitch might be lurking.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@JoeyO’H: STFU. Don’t you EVER address me like that again.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@scott: Why don’t you kiss my ass, scott? You think you know, but you don’t.
Jeff
I spent last week in Provincetown for “Bear Week” and I have a sneaking suspicion that if 99% of the guys I was hanging out with showed up to Brutus, none of the guys in the pics here would acknowledge them, except to deride them about their appearance. But never loud enough that anyone outside the clique would hear. Yes, I know, I don’t know these guys. I am sure they are all just the best guys you will ever meet. If you fit into the cookie cutter. Gay bars are like high school, and sometimes you’re in, sometimes you’re out. I’ve been very in, and then took myself very out. It’s nice out here…step out of your boxes and meet some more diverse people. Hairy, hairless, skinny, fat, black, white, brown…there are places out there that have half the attitude and a quarter of the cookie cutter gays. And yeah, I’m a NYC guy, for what it’s worth (very little lol)
Big bear
@TheRealMannequinAdam: Lol, look at you ordering him around. Play nice with people, kiddo.
TheRealMannequinAdam
@Big bear: Why don’t you go suck some dick? How about that?
dfrw
This is LA, where I live now. It is nice here, but it is tough here unless you are VGL at any age. It seemed less so in Boston. That’s the way it goes though. Regardless, is the fascination with tattoos ever going to end? Yuck. Hairy or not, tattoos are a major turn-off and are very unattractive.
Scrufff
Wow, these silly tirades about body hair are ridiculous.
Anyway, Faultline, the bar feature in this little travel log, along with Akbar – both in Silverlake* are the best gay bars in LA. Both bars are very inclusive, young, old, hipster, jock, nerd, leather daddy, pink, yellow green whatever. Both are known for their eclectic musical mixes. What’s most refreshing is what you WON’T hear… the shit most WeHo bars are playing: soulless Hi-NRG, trance, house or whatever its called.
And also what you WON’T GET – stuck up West Hollywood pretty boy ‘tude. I’ve lived in the Hills of this area most of my life and it just worked out grand for me that Silverlake exists. The creative energy, the music, the arts scene is vibrant. The gay scene is large and pretty diverse, and there’s a sense of community here. I’ve advised many gay and straight new comers to LA to skip WeHo/Westside altogether and check out the scene in the Silverlake/Los Feliz/East Hollywood.
And for the most part no attitude. I once brought along a friend who’s a WeHo habitué, and he was appalled at all the half naked old ugly men mixed in with all the hot daddies, sexy hipster and all us others in between. I replied, I like the mix it, that’s what brings me here and I can only hope that when I’m their age (the half naked old ugly guys) that there will still be a Fautline or Akbar around for me to dance and shake my old man ass.
Scrufff in Silverlake
*BTW: it can be spelled Silverlake (the more common) or as two words. Even the city of LA gets it mixed up. Notice the city street signs in the area, the city uses them interchangeably.
friend
@Scrufff: Thanks for telling it like it is.
When I first moved to LA, I hated it because I thought it was only superficial Weho. It wasn’t until I found the Silverlake scene that I fell in love with the city. It definitely is an all-inclusive community. While there are douchebags everywhere, and there are some in Silverlake, they are usually the ones shunned in the scene. We don’t like bullshit, care how much money you make, what you drive, or how many fabulous vacations you’ve had… As soon as someone starts bragging about shit like that, I walk away. Here, it’s more about being who you are, artistic expression, supporting each other, and yeah we like to dress fun and funky, so what? It’s sad that so many on this thread have chosen to judge who we ARE based on these pics… Let’s see all your photos. Or come visit and have fun. We give free hugs. Lots of ’em. 😉