Hillary Clinton‘s supporters may get their wish!
Upset over their candidate’s loss in the primary, die hard Clinton backers have been pushing for the Senator to be officially nominated at Democratic National Convention next week.
Mrs. Clinton’s never directly addressed the issue, but did speak of a “catharsis” earlier this month.
Now, Marc Ambinder passes along word that Clinton and Barack Obama‘s teams may have come to a surprisingly smooth agreement.
And it could end up helping Obama.
Although Clinton had resisted pressure from donors, allies and supporters to accept demands to allow her name placed in nomination, she and aides to Obama seemed to realize independently that doing so would be the best way to incorporate and welcome Clinton’s supporters into Obama’s general election campaign, both symbolically and practically.
Multiple sources in both campaigns have described the negotiations as relatively free of acrimony. Obama’s convention managers and his political are acutely aware of the fact that at least 45% percent of delegates were stalwart backers of Sen. Clinton during the primary.
At no point, according to advisers to both candidates, did Clinton use her leverage over her delegates as a bargaining chip, especially because the Obama campaign, aware of DNC rules, had anticipated the inclusion of Clinton in the formal roll call in some way.
The exact choreography has not been worked out.
It is possible that Sen. Clinton, having had her name submitted, would use the occasion to release her delegates to Obama; depending on how the roll call is staged, Clinton’s released delegates could put Obama over the top.
Ambinder also mentioned that it was Clinton who decided not to speak at the Convention. Her husband, however, will.
Hillary 2008 – the True Gay Supporter
K-Dogg – Oh for the love of christ.
K-Dogg – That BS has been stale for a while now.
I thought from the beginning that there was no way in hell this was going to happen. Nor should it frankly; talk about back seat drivers!
But with the way things are shaping up for Obama, I think he is going to NEED her if he wants to any chance of winning or at least win somewhat comfortably.
Those Republicans are slick & tricky, the womans movement is selfish and single minded and middle American is uneducated and irrational; not a good combination for Obama’s hopes.
This is the single reason why I didn’t vote for him in the primary. This election cycle is far to important to try shove drastic change down middle America throats (or at least the idea of it). Its too much to fast for most of them.
I still love her, but I like Obama too, which is why I’d love for them to be together. After of course Hillary divorces that crazy husband of hers Bill
“This election cycle is far to important to try shove drastic change down middle America throats (or at least the idea of it). Its too much to fast for most of them.”
No offense, but that’s a ridiculous rationale for not voting for someone. *Every* election cycle is important-people were talking about how 2004 was “the most important election ever.” And when is the right time to “shove drastic change down Middle America’s throat”? That’s the same reasoning that keeps gay people from moving forward in society. So what if a lot of people aren’t ready for it-that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t happen. And what’s really so drastic about a non-white guy being President? And he lives in Middle America and they were the first ones to support him, so it shouldn’t be so painful.
2012 Lieberman in a butt ugly pantsuit
BOO the HAG…OFF the STAGE
Obama delegates WALK OUT of the Convention en masse to the Streets of Denver.
Until this ego-driven FARCE DIES!
Bill you f*cked your legacy, and the minute Hillary does this, her legacy is OVER!
Chances of her being picked as VP are pretty much zero. She’s scheduled to give her prime time speech days before the VP pick gives his/hers. It is doubtful she’ll give 2 major speeches within days.
Mark #7 & #8
Go fuck yourself you stupid moron – BHO doesn’t stand a chance in hell to win the election without SOME of the 18 MILLION PEOPLE that voted for Hillary.
Next time take Obama’s balls out of your mouth long enough to think without being cross-eyed!
Paul take Hillary’s gash off you face before you talk to me.
Hillary’s supporters have had MONTHS to get over her bid for the White House to fail. Either get on Obama’s team or f*ck off. You don’t see Biden’s and Dodd’s fans acting like BIG BABIES.
It should have been a joint ticket all along…I cannot believe the ego’s that screwed this up…
Fanatics on both sides are going to ruin this if they dont get their act together….
hillary couldn’t BUY the White House in 2012 for 10 BILLION
Mark your an Idiot…this is whats causing the problem and could sink the ship (on both sides). Your probably glad John Edwards kept his secret so it worked out in Obama’s favor…idiot..
Charles, I think choosing a nominee that has a better chance of winning the general election and bringing the country together IS a valid reason to vote for or against someone.
With a process as close as this one and with candidates that were basically the same it came down to splitting hairs for me.
And Charles you can scream as loud and as long as you want but so is the other side. So then you just have a country of people at war where nothing gets done expect the corrupt get richer while we are arguing. i.e see last 8 years. The middle ground has to be found. To insist and FORCE what YOU think on other people because YOU think its right is a VERY DOUBLE EDGED SWORD and a scary one at that.
We could take your comment a put it a christian extremist mouth and then it would mean something very different.
So I believe we have to agree to disagree and then find the middle ground so we can all live together freely and respectfully. Not try to force my liberal views on a conservative America. I think it just makes the situation stagnate or even worse.
They need to be gently guided by the hand or else you’ll spook them. haha.
This is why Democrats can’t win elections. They need to start united. While Biden and Dodd supporters are not upset and have moved on, one thing to remember about Hillary is she did get 18 million votes. Even though the math was not there for her nomination, 18 million votes is nothing to sneeze at.
I’m confident it will happen. If it doesn’t everyone knows who really won the nomination had MI and FL not been disenfranchised. In the end I’m still looking forward to her run in 2012.
Sharpen your claws on Hillary…and DON’T STOP
I want EVERY super delegate to walk across the stage and vote
Put 2 big tote boards on stage, and the Super Delegates go across the stage in FULL VIEW of the delegations, and the country, and paste their name on Hillary tote board or Barack tote board.
NO DAMN DLC sneaky backroom bullsh*t!
The title should not read “Could be real deal” but instead “Should be real deal”
Hillary’s supporters are F*CKING up the 2008 race, and WE WON’T FORGET IT…..EVER
^ Good neither will we your underhanded thievery and false accusations.
To IDNY: I disagree. Christian extremists have forced their beliefs into office by working the political system and it’s been very effective. I think we could learn something from that. We should stop thinking that eventually (and when is that exactly) people will soften and come around and we will all meet in the middle ground and hold hands. I’m not saying revolution, but if you want something, you shouldn’t wait and hope and work behind the scenes. They haven’t been doing that-why should we?
Mark…..are you really as stupid as you sound? Oh wait, you support Obama….’nuff said….dickhead!
“We won’t forget it….Ever”
Grow the fuck up you imbecile (that means stupid)…
“Markâ€¦..are you really as stupid as you sound? Oh wait, you support Obamaâ€¦.’nuff saidâ€¦.dickhead!”
have a nice 8 yrs with McSame…cuz that’s where this is going. that means republicans WIN..asswipe!
Paul maybe you haven’t heard
both holocaust survivors and women before Roe vs. Wade made this simple statement, we won’t EVER forget, neither will I.
Think Hillary would get ONE African American or Youth vote in 2012, if she is the cause of Obama’s loss?
NOT A G*D DAMN ONE. She won’t even hold her Senate seat if she causes a loss this year.
I miss the Intelli-queers. Come out! Come Out! Wherever you are. Hillary and Barack are using Perfect Stagecraft for this Event because she won’t be on the ticket. It’s the Constitutional way to do this and historically correct but I see that some people get their news from the tabloids and don’t understand the mechanics of politics very well. Take a Political Science class. McCain will try to use Clinton against Obama but most Americans can see through that media created frenzy. I feel so dumbed down in your presence. Bubba will always be a force in the Democratic Party. Remember, he was President! Not the best but by far not nearly the Worst. That would be ‘W’ the one who seems to be escaping scrutiny for his corrupt regime. Mark needs therapy for his anger which seems chemically-induced in the brain. Just an observation….
No. 30 Â· seitan-on-a-stick
better to be p*ssed off
than p*ssed on
Mark, you can include the “i” as this site is not censored. Last Word. Tag, you’re it!
Hillary will not be selected and Obama will never get my vote.
Untested. Not Ready. Flip Flop. Rev Wright. Michelle. Ayers.
Karl we don’t care and DON’T cast your vote for him.
It’s all good.
For me, it was a toss-up whether to vote for Clinton or Obama in the primary; I wouldn’t have minded either as President. But she wouldn’t be a good fit at all as VICE president. Besides, is the secret service used to having to guard the president from the VP?
(please have the sense not to take that last sentence too seriously)
I don’t understand the Bill hatred. He was a good President; easily a billion trillion times better than the Bush that preceded him and that succeeded him.
Apparently Obama’s balls have clouded your vision…..stop licking them and get your head out of your ass. Are you really as stupid as your musings indicate? Pathetic…..
Clintonistas remind me of the seagulls in Finding Nemo.
They see the Denver Convention and say, “MINE MINE MINE!”
take out your longing for a pity f*ck with someone who cares. If I knew of a pair of balls DESPERATE to be licked, I’d send them your way.
now quit begging
Denver Convention = Taming of the SHREW
Clintons want some drama at the Convention.
Hillary and Bill,
The funny thing about drama, once it’s starts folks begin to IMPROVISE.
You two want drama, lets open a can of OBAMA-DRAMA on your self-centered asses.
Obama delegates pack a cigar in your suitcases, and while Bill and Hill speak…sniff it.
Mark, your homo-erectile dysfunction shows your education level and unstable state of mind. Obama does not need friends like YOU. Are you the one with crazy eyes in the earlier campaign shots that they had to get rid of? Inquiring minds want to know? Since when did you join the McCain payroll? Hils and Bam are tight now, just doing a little “Stagecraft” so get back on your Horse and ride off into the sunset. You are just plain chemically-imbalanced SAD! Leave it to the Grown-Ass Men!
Mark…..dude, take your meds….you’ll feel better. You’re a caricature of a caricature. You’d almost be funny if you weren’t so fucking pathetic…..and predictable.
Oh, and you can lick your OWN balls in desperation…it’s all good here!
I’ve made 4 donations to Obama’s campaign seitan so take you McCain smear and SHOVE IT.
Catharsis is a 2 way street
When is Clinton ever going to admit and apologise for their RACIST G*D DAMN mailer their campaign designer Mandy made, which broadened and darkened Obama’s face?
designed by Mandy Grunwald you racist HAG
Is there a Platform plank stating no Democratic African American candidate should ever again fear ANOTHER Democrat would darken and distort his features/
yeah I didn’t f*ckin think so
Bill ya know those African American voters who put you in office, and who stood more steadfastly with you through Monica than any other group?
Why do you suppose Hillary lost their votes by 98%?
hmmmm? I’m waiting for you to ‘splain that.
Markâ€¦..dude, take your meds
ALWAYS do, that’s what kept me ALIVE for 23 years with AIDS
you slimey motherf*ckin PIG!
Mark….well since you’ve been dying for the past 23 years it’s no wonder you’ve turned into an empty, cold, bitter queen…..that would make even an intelligent human being go crazy…..so it’s no wonder that you’ve had a psychotic break with reality.
Don’t worry it’ll all come rushing back to you on the morning of November 5th….if you’re still alive that is…..
“well since you’ve been dying for the past 23 years it’s no wonder you’ve turned into an empty, cold, bitter queenâ€¦..that would make even an intelligent human being go crazyâ€¦..so it’s no wonder that you’ve had a psychotic break with reality.
Like I said, you slimey motherf*ckin PIG!
Mark…..the virus and meds have obviously ravaged what started out as a pea-sized brain. Give it up – you’re out of your league! You have the I.Q. of a gnat with a lobotomy…….
(quick, get your dictionary out….)
The Clintons are incredibly persistent, and it can be hard to know what to do about it. I think this article is really enlightening about what we should do with a Clinton infestation:
Sweetie, it’s you that are out of your depth.
Now quit being an annoying little twit before I get p*ssed off.
Oh Jesus, you truly are twisted…I can only imagine the consequences of what would happen when a bitter old queen gets pissed off……Look out Mary…..
Why so bitter….you should have your beard give you a bumper sticker…”SO MUCH TO DO…SO LITTLE TIME”
An Other Greek
shill for hill
all you want…
kill for bill?
ha, party’s strong!
we see you puma benedict arnolds, and raise you!
high enough to crack your ass
when it falls
as the nation rises
Visualize our America:
I don’t need to do a thing, it’s clear you can let everyone know how douchey you are…all by yourself.
Mark…you poor psychotic queen……sweet Jesus….you’re still alive?…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..zzzzzzz…………zzzzzzzzzzzzz………..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………move along you little troll……..NEXT!
Well I guess we see how other Gays feel about others Gays living with HIV.
After 23 years with this virus, I’ve seen EVERY reaction. I’ve seen seperatist radical feminists who wouldn’t go to an event which included men, STEP UP and give their blood when gay men needed transfusions, and other gays couldn’t donate.
I’ve had a hateful ignorant Hotel manager screech at me a half hour after my lover died (of Cardio Myopathy due to AIDS) at 24yo, that they had to strip the wallpaper and carpet out of their cheesy hotel room. I’ve had graffitti sprayed all over my garage and a knife thrown at a friend on my porch in a village of 75 people who all were either hateful/silent.
An Other Greek
I will never forgive your comments on this post regarding Mark’s health.
I have just caught up reading the thread, and I want to throw curses at you.
I am ashamed for you.
An Other GEEK,
Well that should bother me for about…….oops, I was wrong….I couldn’t give a shit…..
Thanks An Other Greek
An Other Greek
You are most welcome, my brother…
Be well and stay strong!
Hils and Bam are better friends than anyone here. I refuse to retort to Mark and ask that others refrain in light of some of the nature of these posts. McCain is the enemy here! Focus please.
An Other Greek
“McCain is the enemy here! Focus please.”
Chokey dokey smokey!
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