In 2007, Thomas Beatie made headlines when he became the first high-profile trans man to become pregnant and give birth to a child. But in a taping of The Doctors this week, Beatie announced that he and his wife, Nancy, have separated.
In the episode, airing May 9, Beatie, 38, explained that “like all marriages, we have our ups and downs, and we’re going through a rough patch right now. At the moment, we’re separated,” reports People.com. Since initially giving birth five years ago, Beatie has had two more children with his wife.
Matt
^Glad to finally uncover the pseudonym Rick Santorum uses to comment on this site when he’s wasted.
Joe
Matt, argue all you want but it’s what Chris said about Transmen and how gay men and straight women don’t want us, and how Thomas Beatie who became a total media whore and used his own son as a pawn to try to get fame, lots of money, and as a PR stunt. I remember when he wanted to charge People magazine a lot of money to take pictures of his son!
BTW I am a transman and I don’t like Thomas Beatie because of what he did.
I had kids and transitioned and I have other transguy friends who had kids while transitioning and they didn’t become media whores or use their kids to get media attention, 15 mins of fame, or money.
Joe
That should read “It’s true that what Chris said…”
This is one major reason why I date and have relationships with bisexual men and women since bisexual men and women unlike gay men or straight women are actually sexually attracted to Transmen.
beerwad
That’s idiotic to say that straight women wouldn’t want to be with a trans man just because of his anatomy. I know plenty of straight women who have been with trans men (including myself – my ex loved what I have, because she likes men but doesn’t like dick!). And I’ve had sex with plenty of gay men. If you love someone, you love the person, not just their genitals. If you’re hot for someone, you’re hot for them and whatever genitals they have.
J Stratford
Well Chad that is true for you.
But dont assume its true for everyone else. If a gay man says he is attracted to trans, then he is. His personal experience is just as real as yours
Bianca Lynne
Ahhhh… Queerty transphobia – like clockwork it is…
Rory
@Bianca Lynne: And so it goes. First come the “I’m-ally-BUT…” types, then the “I’m in a position to speak for am entir group of people I’m not even part of”, until we finally start hearing things like “man hating lesbian” used to describe a straight woman who also happens to be attracted to transmen… It’s like a sport, except it’s terrible, and everybody loses!
Rory
Oh dear, that last comment was riddled with typos, wasn’t it? Forgive my less-than-stellar phone typing skills.
JT
@Joe:
So long as People Magazine is MAKING loads of money from his story, I see ZERO wrong with him charging to take photos of him, his children or anything else.
Jeff A
I’m so confused on this whole thing. I’m gay and support trans issues, but I have never understood why this story is interesting. The transman had a baby because he still had a uterus. It wasn’t a miracle. I applaud the couple for having a child without caring what others think. And I understand that it may help others broaden their definition of family, but their motivation seemed more like media whoring. To me, it wasn’t newsworthy then and it isn’t newsworthy now. (I’m sorry the relationship is ending…sad).
I’m open to differing opinions. Please help me understand what I’m missing.
jason
Thomas Beatie comes across as a camera whore.
Geri
@Chris: Some of us are much more interested in the person than what genitalia they may or may not have.
Also, a lot of people are attracted to men with pussies(cuntboys) and/or chicks with dicks(shemales).
Sorry, no apologies to GLAAD for using these very politically incorrect, highly sexualised terms in this context which are strongly objected to by some trans people and other LGBT folk who don’t seem to really understand that not all trans people are totally transsexual in their feelings and are happy (or at least content) to remain somewhere in-between F & M and hence are in some cases willing to embrace the aforementioned offending terms to describe themselves.
Back on topic – wasn’t it a joint decision on the part of Thomas and Nancy to invite the media spotlight into their lives?
Oh, ok
Yay for creating things to whine about. Some of us actually deal with real discrimination and don’t have to put words in the mouths of others before biting their heads off.
Tony
Funny… after marriage, procreation, and everything else to fulfill the heterosexual fantasy it still failed. When are people going to wake up and realizing replicating the hetero-normative institution of marriage is dumb!
Chad
Beerwad-Your ex is a man hating lesbian or she stuck with you while you transitioned and then dumped you afterward. All the straight women I know don’t want to be with a “man” who has a vagina instead of a penis and they want to get fucked by a penis and not a dildo, and they don’t want a woman or someone who is a woman physically and biologically to give them oral sex.
There are some gay identified men who are actually bisexual who are curious about what it’s like to fuck a woman or someone with a vagina so they fuck a Transman as a novelty and get to experience pussy and pretend that they’re still “gay” and having sex with a “man” when they’re actually having sex with someone who is a woman and who despite all of the hormones and cosmetic surgery will always be a woman.
As a gay man I have never been sexually or romantically attracted to women, to their vaginas, and I don’t want to have sex with someone who is a woman biologically and who has a vagina between their legs and who has had elective cosmetic surgery and pretends that they are now somehow a man. I’m only sexually attracted to men who have actual penises and not women who are pretending that their surgically enlarged clit that’s 1 inch long is somehow a penis, and that using a strapon dildo makes you a man and that a dildo is a substitute for an actual penis.
David
Jeff A-Welcome to the world of magical thinking when it comes to Transmen and their genitals and gender identity!
I feel bad for Transmen since they don’t have penises and they only have vaginas and no gay man or even straight woman is going to want to have sex-even a booty call or pity fuck, with someone who has a vagina and was once a woman, and let’s not mention relationships since it’s not going to happen or if a relationship does happen it’s not going to last.
Transmen can shout until they’re blue in the labia that they have a “penis” and are “men” but they’re always going to have a vagina, and be female both biologically and genetically.
Alexi3
Tony – hurray for you! I completely agree. I have NEVER understood why anyone – gay or straight would want to get married. I mean I understand you’re in love and it’s going to last forever feeling. but any cold look at statistics clearly and unambiguously shows that the chances of this happening are not great. 50% of all marriages end in divorce; another 25% stay together for the children or because of religous restrictions, another 15% stay together out of inertia – they live in the same house, hating each other more with every passing year but lack even the energy to make a change, and that leaves you with 10% who have a happy marriage. Let’s face it the institution of marriage fails most who engage it. I remember Bette Midler once asking why would any thinking gay man want to burden themselves with all the legal hassels of marriage and divorce. OK you might get some tax and health care advantages; do they really out-weigh the disadvantages? Do you really think that by getting married you are gaining acceptance from the larger society?
David1950
That’s good for you Tony and Alexi but I’d rather have the right to get married to someone of the same gender as an LGBT person. My partner and I are in a relationship that’s monogamous and we were married in another state and our marriage is valid in our state.
I could care less about acceptance from society at large. My family and friends accept me and that’s fine.
As for the pregnant ‘man’ I hope his/her son once they get older gets mad at their mom/dad for being such media whores.
Jary
As an FTM teenager it upsets me to read some of the comments here. I’ve often thought that I’ll never find another man who will love me, and that I’ll probably die alone. Well my suspicions have been confirmed… And you wonder why kids kill themselves these days. You guys are just a bunch of bullies, like the ones who bullied me in high school, only difference between you and them is you’re an adult.
GinaSF
Jary why not get into a relationship with a bisexual man or another FTM?
Bipolar Bear
In New Zealand, we had a heterosexual female columnist use this case to have a go at ALL trans parents, calling it “vanity parenting”. I ripped her a new arsehole, and a youth activist group called the Queer Avengers staged a protest at the newspaper office where she works. She didn’t have the balls to come out and talk to them though:
http://bipolarbear.co.nz/2012/03/13/rosemary-mcleod/
Pete
Bipolar bear, well she’s certainly right about the vanity part. I know FTM who have kids that they had themselves yet they didn’t feel the need to become total media/fame whores, and try to make money from tabloids and magazines by using their kid as a pawn.
Brad007
I’m all for trans but I still don’t understand why his pregnancy was such a hot topic when it originally hit blogs. He’s obviously not a real man, he has female reproductive organs. Of course he can have a baby. Duh!
Kathleen
@Jary: Jary, there is NO INDIVIDUAL that can speak for everyone. You personally may or may not like a certain group, but you cannot say that all Trans Men do not like that group. Someone asserting something like that is beyond stupid. There may or may not be trends, but honestly you will be dating individuals. There is a world out there that if you are open to it you will see it. But if you believe that these know it all really “own” the truth about what every straight woman or gay man feel then you will certainly be blind. Bullies love the fake out, if they can get you to hurt or to believe their nonsense, then they feel better about themselves. If you can’t feel good about yourself, then your not going to get anywhere. Don’t use these bullies as an excuse to not believe in yourself. Don’t agree with nonsense just because someone throws it out there.
Devon
I have nothing against FTMs or MTFs, but I resent deeply that gay people have been manipulated and browbeaten into accepting “LGBT” which tells them that they have some basic identifying linkage with transsexuality. They don’t. It is a lie to say so. And lies breed hostility and resentment. As long as gays continue to be labeled as LGBT, there can be nothing but enmity for trans activists.
Cam
@Bianca Lynne: said…
“Ahhhh… Queerty transphobia – like clockwork it is…”
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Ahhh, the non specific attacks on anybody here who says one thing about any subject that you seem to feel you have a tie to.
If you think what was said was phobic, then please point it out. Otherwise you may as well by a 6 year old child just putting your fingers in your ears and sticking your tongue out.
Toby
People Magazine is a business, not a charity. Of course you’re going to sell your privacy for as much money as you can – they don’t *have* to buy it. And if you don’t sell, if they’re sufficiently interested in you, they’ll just send the paparazzi and take it anyways.
So you’re not interested in transmen. Whatever happened to polite rejection, rather than treating someone like an abomination for the way they happened to be born? He’s not your type, he’s not your type. Do unto others – it doesn’t stop just as soon as you’ve got them to stop beating on *you*. United we stand, divided we fall. There’s still no shortage of bigots that consider gays and transpeople the same sort of deviants.
As for bisexual men, I’ve yet to have relations with any that were truly bisexual, rather than just using me as a stepping stone on the way out of the closet before graduating to “real” men, or experimenting with and deciding they’re not into men at all, keeping their “straightness” more intact. Sure there must be ones out there not like that, but you’re hardly encouraging us to go out and try and find someone. We’ll be happy settling down and using our birth genitalia in the socially expected configuration just about as soon as any other gays and lesbians are, thanks.
Ginasf
I just want to note that someone is posting on here using my online name… extra creepy. I did not write post #27.
And Jary, you’re right, sadly many of the people who post on Queerty are a bunch of bullies. But there are other loving people in the gay community and I’ve known a lot of gay-ID’d transguys who found “the right one.”
Ginasf
@Ginasf: Excuse me… did not write post #20
Scott
@27-Way to be a total hypocrite and a bigot. You’re a bi_phobic trans person and are practicing bisexual erasure against bisexual men as a whole. People like you are no better than the Trans phobes that you’re angry at and homophobic people, and even Conservative Politicians like Rick Santorum, the Bachmanns, and Rev Phelps who think that nobody can be LGBT and that being LGBT is a personal choice.
Tomas
I agree that Toby at 27 is nothing but a hypocritical bigot who is biphobic and practices bisexual erasure with his BS about how he’s never met “True bisexual men”. Go join the Westboro Baptist church, or the Republican party. People like you are total hypocrites and don’t even realize that you’re bigots.
Stella
Toby at 27 with his bigotry, bisexual erasure, and biphobia gives gay men, bisexuals of both genders, and lesbians an excellent reason NOT to care about trans activists or care about the issues of Trans people who are just going to turn around and practice bigotry and their own brand of biphobia and bisexual erasure towards bisexual men.
Spike
Dare I say … typical lesbians . . .
Geri
@Devon: Re: “I have nothing against FTMs or MTFs, but I resent deeply that gay people have been manipulated and browbeaten into accepting “LGBT” which tells them that they have some basic identifying linkage with transsexuality.”
Your linkages to trans people are that you belong to a sexual minority group and so do they; and more importantly & significantly trans people are vulnerable to homophobia regardless of their sexual orientation. E.G. a transwoman who is exclusively attracted to men and therefore identifies as straight will still be consider gay by people who don’t respect her gender identity.
Also many trans people don’t identify as heterosexual anyway, and neither do many of the people who are attracted to them.