As the right-wing embraces Carrie Prejean — well, sort of — for her anti-gay stance, one little thing they’re forgetting is that Prejean, an UNMARRIED WOMAN!, has been busy pitching herself as a sex object. And not just by appearing on national television in a bikini. And not just by scoring herself some free breast implants. But by posing for this pictorial in B!isss Magazine that BTB found.
Just what kind of magazine is B!isss? Well here’s one recent photospread:
Looks Biblically correct to us.
Carise
You’re forgetting that the right-wing crowd has a history of selecting the sins from the Bible to whine about. I honestly think people are giving Carrie Prejean more importance than they should. She’s not Anita Bryant and I’m amazed people are making the comparison, simply because both women competed in pageants.
tavdy79
A woman objectified? Definitely Biblical – if you’re a Christofascist that is.
Dennis
What a lovely, innocent Christian girl…In my country, I was raised to believe that women who exposed their bodies for cash and celebrity were whores…no offense!
jason
Let’s not forget that other double standard of church-going conservatives: that female homosexuality (lesbianism) is “hot” but that male homosexuality is “gross”. LOL. These conservatives are such hypocritical buffoons. They’ve lost all credibility.
sal
what would Jesus do?apparently a sexy bliss shoot lol
sal
but to be fair she’s doing a good job for the church,im sure allot of str8 guys(and lesbian girls) would be sayin God’s name watching these pics…soooo lets not hate shes just tryin to convert the dirty
Phoenix (I Can Tell Your Ta-Tas Are Fake)
Hmmm, I’m thinking about casting the first stone…
Mickey's Mouse
You need to stop covering her, maybe then she’ll go away… even though she is digging a pretty big ditch for nom and the like she’s kind of riling up some of the opposition by hypnotizing them with her massive fake breasts…
@Daniel_Baylis
(shakes head in disappointment)…
I don’t know where to begin with this one.
I guess we should thank her for giving us such wonderful fodder. Now that Sarah Palin has disappeared, we needed someone.
Dan
Just imagine….if Dalton, Miss USA 2009, happens to win at Miss Universe…this lovely little bible thumper gets to wear the crown she wanted. =/
Jeffrey
I think maybe the Republicans have found a running mate that will make Sarah Palin look smart and classy.
Alexa
@jason: Well, they think lesbianism is hot if it’s done solely to titilate straight men, but if it’s done for us, it’s as bad as male homosexuality.
Oh look, guess what Google ad is at this moment at the bottom of this post? NOM’s current ad. Just above one for a gay dating service.
Mark
I’s ‘nice’ and all to continue to put this beauty queen pageant winner in the spotlight, but I must continue to remind everyone of one very important fact: the last time a beauty queen pageant winner was asked her opinion, she lost a national election.
What Carrie Prejean doesn’t understand, and especially what the nutbag religious fundie right doesn’t understand, is that this is the 21st century. Not the Middle Ages, not the 18th century, and it’s no longer the 20th century. There are forums, blogs, social media networks (Twitter, Facebook, etc.), that are circulating every image and statement idiots like Carrie, Sarah P. etc. make.
What they fail to understand is that the game has changed. Permanently. Irrevocably. To wit: We are no longer run by Bu$hco. Print and TV no longer forces us to consume what they want. Palin was the perfect model of self-destruction and the **template** for Carrie’s self-destruction. The religious right has been exposed for the total and complete hypocrites they are. Indeed, Carrie’s continued statements have exposed her for the hypocrite she is as well. Strike three, baby. You’ve already lost the game.
This issue, and their beauty queen pageant winning spokesperson is no different from any of the religious right’s previous attempts to silence us. They are on the wrong side of history. Carrie’s self-destruction is right around the corner.
Dick Mills
Mark, just one note: both Palin and Prejean were beauty queen runner-ups – which makes them beauty queen losers. Not that they aren’t both losers in just about every sense of the word, but they certainly are not beauty queen pageant winners.
Though, technically, Prejean did beat out the other losers in California, Palin didn’t even win against Eskimos in Alaska… talk about loser!
Rev. Steve
NOM tells “Miss Cali”: Thanks, but no thanks! @ Rev. Steve’s Cyber-Pulpit http://tinyurl.com/cymw44
The Lesbian Mafia
That stripper look is so 90s, Prejean …
obey wan
Well, she’s only enticing men to breed, go forth and procreate says the voice from the sky!
Virilene
I would like to get her views on pre-marital sex. Not that there’s anything wrong with it……
Alexander
She is just a plastic surged bitch.. nothing else. Now she has nothing to lose and she will fight to the end…
Robert, NYC
Actually, our opponents and foes alike are doing us a favor. The more they rant with absurd comments, the more irrelevant they become, plus….they’re helping to polarize the GOP even more to the right, and that’s a good thing. Its all they have to rely on if they’re trying to make a comeback which I predict they won’t with the Prejeans and Maragaret Gallaghers of the far right acting as their shills. I have advice for Prejean and her ilk, go back and read your bible…what you’re doing by flaunting your body is hardly biblically correct. What a moron and a hypocrite!
alicia banks
carrie is a bigot and a bimbo.
her bimbo eruptions have gone way past double overtime
shame!
see more at:
OUTLOOK
http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com
Stephen
Really, friends? Enough. Let’s get over it and remember that tolerance is what we must have, so let’s show a little. She opposes gay marriage; she hasn’t expressed hatred for the LGBT community. We all know she got sandbagged and we all know how that feels. It’s a tempest in a teapot–let’s move along. This trivializes our integrity.
Zack
So what if she’s nude or semi nude what does it have to do with her opinion on gay marrsge or anything else????????
Goey
Right on Stephen! Those of us who (rightfully) rail against the pervasive hypocrisy of far-right-bible-thumpers need to resist the inclination to join them. Remaining vigilant and exposing their nonsense is important. But piling-on after the point is made serves us poorly. Frankly, I like her pictures, just not her politics. Wish we could let it drop.
Alec
@Stephen: I would have said that before she decided to go on a tour of conservative churches calling sexual orientation a choice and refraining from making any statements about civil unions or adoption (which she either is indifferent to, supports or opposes; I find it difficult to believe that one can have an opinion on marriage equality but not those other matters).
She made her bed. Help her lie in it.
Virilene
“She opposes gay marriage; she hasn’t expressed hatred for the LGBT community.”
There is NO principled opposition to equal marriage rights coming from the Far Right…NONE. Any and all opposition coming from the right is based in hypocrisy and ultimately hatred of homosexuals. The Prejans and Gaggie Mallagers of the world only have lies and hypocrisy (if not out-and-out schizophrenia) to rely on in their hate-filled crusade.
“So what if she’s nude or semi nude what does it have to do with her opinion on gay marrsge or anything else?”
Zack, honey….as if this has to be said, but…her posing for nude photos is hypocritical to her supposed “Christian” moral view, the same view on which she and the NOMards base their opposition to equal rights. They pick-and-choose their morality they same way they pick-and-choose which Biblical passages to observe.
Prejean is just using the controversy over her ignorant comments (and Lavandiera’s subsequent equally ignorant comments) to try to heighten her profile and advance her career, and NOM, desperate for any log in a flood, has grabbed onto her. Given her past, her hypocrisy, and her vapidity, the marriage between her and Gaggie Mallagher will not be a happy one—-they are too similar. [ cf: Gaggie’s past as an unwed mother (and her lies about it); her unethical professional behavior (accepting money to advocate Far Right Republican policies without disclosure); and her intellectual emptiness (listen to anything she says or read anything she writes) ]
Still and all, I actually support NOM’s use of Prejean as a spokesperson. She is way hotter to look at than Gallagher, and her idiocy is even more apparent.
Robert, NYC
@Zack:
It has a lot do with marriage equality. This woman claims she’s a student of the bible and that the bible is correct defining marriage between a man and a woman. In fact, the bible doesn’t mention anything of the kind, its just implied and interpreted that way by believers. If she claims to be biblically correct, she should not be flaunting her flesh or even entering a beauty contest according to her bible. She obviously hasn’t read it correctly. In other words, she’s a hypocrite. The problem with her kind is that they want it both ways and that their way is the only way. In a secular society, that’s not going to fly.
kevin (not that one)
Let’s not forget that study that was just released which showed that the highest consumption of porn came from Red States where protections for LGBTs were bad and demographics where skewed heavily towards white evangelicals.
Brian
Homosexuals are looking high and low for an excuse, or a falasy reason to explain and justify their sickness. Homosexuals will attack, demean, belittle any one who does not except the idocy of gays and their sick fetishes. Homosexuality is the equivalent of beastyality. There is a reason it has been outlawed for the major part of the time in mans history….its sick and its stupid!!!
Michael
It is just proof that she is obviously not gay. As for the nude photos themselves, since when did liberals care about nude photography? Aren’t these the folks who want to legalize everything from drugs to prostitution? Always hypocritical of those who do not share their political point of view. Haters all.
Scott Vines
Why do you people care what Christians think or say? If you don’t believe Jesus is God, then simply pity them for their misguided views. Why the anger? Your thinly veiled hatred belies your real issue: anger at God. If you do believe Jesus is God, then you’re called to forgive Prejean of any perceived wrongs.
Furthermore, Prejean didn’t say she hated homosexuals. She simply gave her views on marriage. So what? And as far as this photo goes, what makes it any more racy than the swimsuit she wore at the pageant? Personally, I haven’t seen a single distasteful photo of her. She’s a woman gifted with extraordinary beauty, and she is a model after all.
As far as hypocrisy goes, all humans are hypocrites. Christians aren’t perfect. That’s why they believe they need Jesus. Yes, a lot of them are jerks, but that’s not Jesus’ fault.
I’ve read a few posts claiming the Bible doesn’t define marriage as being between men and women. Those people are wrong. I’ve read the entire Bible and there’s only one “interpretation” in this respect, and it doesn’t include homosexual marriage. Having said that, I really don’t think the government has any business regulating marriage. Until quite recently in Western history, the institution was regulated by churches. I think we should return to that. People should be free to start homosexual churches and have their gay marriages, and I should be free to reject those unions. The government should stay out of it.
atdleft
@Jeffrey: Palin/Prejean 2012? Two wacko wingnut crazy ladies for the price of one? LOL. 😀
atdleft
@Scott Vines: So why are you and Carrie Prejean denying us of civil marriage rights? Again, we don’t want your church to bless our unions. We just want our civil rights. PERIOD.
There are many ways to interpret the Bible, but you can’t impose your Biblical interpretation to strip people of their fundamental constitutional rights.
And btw, did NOM just pay for a few more trolls or are the same trolls just coming up with new pseudonyms?
atdleft
@Brian: NOMbie troll alert!
Brian
@atdleft: PILLOW HUGGER!!!!
Brian
@atdleft: YOU DONT WANT CIVIL UNIONS….YOU WANT YOUR FETTISHES LEGITAMIZED AND NORMALIZED. CIVIL UNIONS IS YOUR WAY OF NORMALIZING, THE ABNORMAL IN NORMAL CULTURE. MOST PEOPLE DONT CARE WHAT YOU DO, JUST SO LONG AS YOU DO IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. AS FOR CIVIL UNIONS…..BETTER CHANCE OF CLEAN AIR IN LA.
getreal
@Brian: No matter what you say or do all Americans will have the right to marry straight or gay very soon. There are already four states where marriage is equal and bigots like you cannot sop an idea whose time has come.
Brian
@getreal: SPEAKING OF AMERICANS, AMERICAN VALUES COMES INTO PLAY. I DONT RECALL THE BILL OF RIGHTS
STATING ANYTHING ABOUT A PERSON RIGHT TO EMBARRASE THEIR NATION WITH THEIR SEXUAL DEVIENCIES. SHOULD WE NOW GIVE PEDAFILES THERE OWN RIGHTS TO THEIR PERSONAL SEXUAL PREFRENCES? CALIFORNIA GAVE HOMOS THE RIGHT TOO….FOR A COUPLE OF WKS AND NOW THEIR IN THE PROCESS OF ANULING MOST OF THEM. YOU GOT THAT TO LOOK FORWARD. ALL POLLS SHOW…..70 PERCENT OF AMERICANS ARE AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE AND I DONT SEE THAT CHANGING ANYTIME SOON. AND….THERE STILL IS NO FRESH AIR IN LA……
Brian
@getreal: ALSO….IM NOT BIGGOT, IM A REALIST AND TRADITIONALIST. YOUR JUST A SICK, GENETIC ANOMALY.
strumpetwindsock
@Scott Vines:
(God, this is the third time I’m having to post this today)
If you have read the bible cover to cover you have done better than me. I can’t claim to have read every page of every book.
I do know though that there are no rules set down in the bible regarding the marriage ceremony. Plenty of rules about how to treat your partners (and even about divorce) but nothing about who and how many people can get married (since they had polygamy back then), there’s no ceremony described, no prayer, no requirement of clergy, a church or even a blessing.
It was not even considered a sacrament until the Catholics made it one much later. But people were getting married long before it was written.
And not all christian faiths considered marriage a sacrament; the english puritans outlawed church marriage ceremonies when they ruled England; only civil ceremonies were recognized (unfortunatley they also outlawed Christmas, which made them quite unpopular).
The only thing you have to go on are the few bits of scripture that are used to condemn homosexuality. Try to square that with the fact there are scriptures requiring the killing of non-believers, circumcision, no work on the sabbath (saturday), rules allowing the keeping of slaves, and laws forbidding the eating of pork.
Do you just get to pick and choose the laws you follow, because it seems like a lot of scripture is just being honoured in the breach by Christians?
strumpetwindsock
@strumpetwindsock:
Forgot to mention..
There is not even any commandment to marry.
There are rules against sex outside of a committed relationship, but nothing said about any ceremony to seal the deal.
A couple is supposed to become “one flesh”, but I think they figure out how to do that on their own anyway.
Dick Mills
Keith Olbermann just had Melissa Harris-Lacewell (Professor from Princeton University) discussing the Prejean nearly-naked pictures being released, and the relevance of those pictures to anything. This is what Melissa said:
It’s interesting, because in this case she feels bad because she is being stigmatized based on an expression of her sexuality; she is being judged because she is part of a group that is generally stereotyped, that is pageant winners; and she is finding that her morality is being brought into question because of a set of personal choices that she has made.
So, I think that it has everything to do with this particular debate, in that it ought to be causing (dare I say it) empathy on the part of Miss California for gays and lesbians who are simply trying to live a life of full equality in these United States, and who are being judged and abused in all of these ways that she is now personally experiencing.
osocubano
@Brian:
For you, however, there is no excuse.
Robert, NYC
@Brian:
So Brian, straights don’t have any deviances, none? What about the rapists, the straight child molesters, the straight males who father children with different women, the straight philanderers some of whom elevate the sanctity of marriage while cheating on their spouses (Rudy Giuliani is probably the most notorious), what about the sex trafficking from Asia….all females who are importuned for prostitution patronized by straight men. By the way, if you look at the make-up of pedophilia statistics, as well as crimes of incest per capita in this country, the majority of them were committed against females. How do you explain that? You’re a total ignoramous, but that’s pretty widespread on the far right.
Robert, NYC
@strumpetwindsock:
Hi Strumpetwindsock….actually the word “marriage” appears nowhere in the bible. It was implied from the creationist fairy tale I believe, God or whatever taking a rib from Adam and creating a female as he lay in a deep sleep. They were apparently told to go forth and multiply…..hmmmmm….assuming they are the first parents of the human race as students of the bible believe just like Prejean, they never can provide an intelligent answer as to how the planet became populated. Seems to me that incest must have been the choice du jour with their children. I’ve even heard from right wing biblicists that Eve may have had as many as 55 children, a physical impossibility. The response to that was…”in those days, women were far stronger”. They have an excuse for everything don’t they?
To digress a bit, regarding the definition of marriage, I’ve not seen anything in the bible concerning that. The right wing anti same-sex marriage haters use procreation as the primary reason. As far as I know, a civil marriage license issued by each state does not require or mandate procreation to be contingent on marrying. If it is, then why are straight couples allowed to marry who “choose” not to procreate or those who can’t? Should they too be barred? In the interests of consistency and fairness, they should be barred as far as the right wing is concerned. They can’t have it both ways. All or nothing, same with the bible, you either believe all of it or you don’t believe at all.
Robert, NYC
@Scott Vines:
Scott, the thing is, Prejean claims that she’s a student of the bible. If that’s the case, what is she doing posing in a skimpy swimsuit with part of her cleavage in full view and why is she in a beauty contest anyway? The bible does not condone immodesity, flaunting one’s flesh. As for her somewhat racy pose before she entered….another no-no in her bible, I find that rather hypocritical given her beliefs. Obviously she hasn’t read it correctly or she’s typical of the right wing who cherry pick this and that to suit its agenda to support discrimination. This is about hypocrisy based on being biblically correct, something that Prejan definitely is NOT.
Brian
@Robert, NYC: @Robert, NYC: SO ROBERT….YOU MADE MY POINT! YOUR ONLY A PARTIAL IDIOT…..DIVIANCES ARE DIVIANCES, NO MATTER THE SITUATION. HOWEVER…THE MANY EXAMPLES YOU GAVE ARE PREDETORS OF PEOPLE OR CHILDREN IN A WEAKER POSITION AND THEY ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT SITUATION.IF WERE GONNA NORMALIZE HOMOSEXUALITY, WE MIGHT AS WELL NORMALIZE THE REST OF THE MORONS AND THEIR SICK FETISHES TOO! HOMOSEXUALS ARE DEVIANTES THAT MAKE EXCUSES TO JUSTIFY THEIR SICKNESS IN AN ATTEMPT TO GIVE THEMSELVES MINORITY STATUS TO OBTAIN EQUAL RIGHTS TO NORMALIZE SICKNESS. AS IM SURE YOU KNOW (YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE GAY)MOST HOMOSEXUALS TAKE YEARS TO MUSTER UP THE SICK NERVE TO “COME OUT”. THATS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE SICK AND IT TAKES THEM TIME TO FIND OUTHERS TO JUSTIFY THEIR SICKNESS. A GAY FAN BASE IF YOU WILL….IF YOU INSIST ON BLOVIATING, BLOVIATE WITH A POINT GENIOUSE! IF YOU WANT TO STICK YOUR MALE PARTS IN OUTHER MALE PARTS….DO IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. DONT CORRUPT THE WHOLE NATION JUST BECAUSE YOUR A DEVIANT!
Brian
@osocubano: OF COURSE THERE IS AN EXCUSE FOR ME……..I DONT TRY TO STICK MY MALE PARTS IN OUTHER MALE PARTS AND THEN TRY TO JUSTIFY IT WITH, “ITS HERIDITY”, “ITS IN THE GENES”, “I WAS BORN IN THE WRONG BODY”. THE FACT IS…YOUR SICK, YOU HAVE ABNORMAL FETISHES AND YOUR TRYING TO NORMALIZE YOUR SICKNESS IN OUTHER PEOPLE TO EASE YOUR OWN MIND. THAT JUST ISNT GONNA HAPPEN, NO MATTER HOW MANY HOMOS YOU RALLY. AS WITH HOMOSEXUALITY….YOUR WEAK COMMENT PROVES YOU ARE A WASTE OF GOOD AIR. HAVE A NICE DAY…
Robert, NYC
@Brian:
Brian, you need to learn grammar and spelling, use spell check next time you post. Also, its quite transparent why you ignore my comments about the many deviant practices of straights, how convenient. Your frequent postings here suggest that you have a lot of conflicts in regard to your own sexual orientation. Why are you spending so much time here on a gay blogsite? You are proof that ex-gay therapy and aversion therapy haven’t worked. Try again, run along sweetie, read your bible but please, resist the temptation to masturbate, your persistent obsession with gay sex and practices is quite revealing.
By the way, millions of heterosexuals, married, otherwise “involved” or single engage in what you describe as “deviant” sex. Go rent yourself some hetero hardcore porn dear and you will see for yourself. While you’re at it, clean up your own house before you start throwing stones, people who live in glass houses really shouldn’t you know. You epitomize what the right wing is all about. With more idiots like you supporting them, you’ll further polarize your party to the extremity and its already on the way there and you are by default exacerbating the alienation of moderates, independents and younger voters. You’re helping us more than you know, thank you for that. The more you rant and spew your venom and other absurd comments, the stronger and more powerful we become. Methinks you doth protest too much! Get thee to a legitimate, qualified therapist, the ex-gay nonsense clearly hasn’t worked for you. You are making ex-gay therapists wealthy while you end up living with a lot of anger and unhappiness. Accept who you are and move on, you’ll be a lot happier.
Brian
@Robert, NYC@Robert, NYC: I AM AMAZED AT YOUR OBVIOUSE LACK OF AN ABILITY TO CUT SOMEONE DOWN. THAT PROBABLY STEMS FROM THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME YOU SPEND TRYING TO JUSTIFY BEING TOTALLY IGNORANT AND WORST OF ALL…..GAY. MABY I SHOULD DO LIKE GAYS DO IN RESPECT TO MY GRAMMER. IM GONNA GO AND FIND 3 MILLION OUTHER PEOPLE WITH A GRAMMER PROBLEM, COLLECT SOME MONEY AND THEN GO LOBBY CONGRESS. MABY I SHOULD CLAIM MINORITY STATUS BECAUSE I HAVE A GRAMMER PROBLEM. ITS ALMOST AS ABSURD AS WHAT HOMOS DO….
I BELIEVE I DID COMMENT ON YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT STRAIGHT DEVIENCES. THERE NO BETTER. HOWEVER, THERE NOT LOBBYING CONGRESS,RALLYING IN THE STREETS, SPENDING ENORMOUSE AMOUNTS OF MONEY TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR DEVIANCES. IN FACT, MANY DO TIME IN JAIL. MABY THATS HOW WE SHOULD RESOLVE GAY MARRIAGE. THROW ALL YOU HOMOS IN JAIL.
IF MY “PARTY” IS SO POLORIZED,WHY IS IT THAT STILL NEAR 70 PERCENT OF AMERICANS APOSE GAY MARRIAGE? WHY ARENT HOMOS LINING UP IN FRONT OF COURT HOUSES FOR MARRIAGE LICENCES? YOU AND I BOTH KNOW WHY….THE LACK OF POLORIZATION.
EX-GAY THERAPY….YOU MUST BE KIDDING. IVE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING. BEING A POLE SMOKER MUST BE WORSE THAN I THOUGHT IF THERE IS A NEED FOR SUCH A THING. IT IS A GOOD SIGN THAT MABY HOMOS ARE COMING AROUND AND SEEING THE ERROR OF THEIR SICK WAYS. OUTHERWISE….WHY ELSE THE NEED? IT JUST GOES TO PROVE THE FACT THAT EVEN HOMOS KNOW….THEIR MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE CHOICES.
IN THE EVENT THAT I ‘CHOOSE’ TO RENT MOVIES OF THE TOPIC YOU SUGGESTED…I CAN AT LEAST CHOOSE TO DO IT IN THE PRIVACY OF MY OWN HOME WITHOUT DESECRATING MY COUNTRY AND OUTHER PEOPLE AROUND ME. MABY THATS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO….BE IGNORANT IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME? I BET YOUR ONE OF THEM PEOPLE WHO FLAGRANTLY GO AROUND FLAUNTING YOUR STUPIDITY TO WHOLE WORLD? ITS BEEN OBVIOUSE BY YOUR POST ON THIS SITE……
will
I say stone the BITCH !
Brian
@will: I SAY IDOLIZE THE BITCH AND STONE WILL…….
Mr. Mackey
Gays are bad, m’kay.
Robert, NYC
@Mr. Mackey:
And I suppose in your demented world, there are no bad straights? What an idiot!
Ron
What would Jesus do? Carrie Prejean. who else?
Jake
@Scott Vines:
Scott- the bible also promotes slavery and the stoning of children. Clearly the bible was wrong in regards to those things and its wrong in regards to marriage as well. But I sort of agree with you- the government should grant all citizens the same rights in regards to how they live their lives. People don’t have to start their own churches- they should simply be granted the same rights given to any other citizen.
jac
@Brian: I totally agree with you. Can we also remember the freedom of speech??? Why should she be chastised for her OPINION? Yet it’s okay for these bleeding heart liberals to throw their opinions all over the place, but it you don’t agree, right away you’re a racist or sexist or god-knows-what! When is this bullshit going to stop? And by the way, when the hell did perez hilton matter this much to anyone? What has he contributed to society besides his celeb whore status? He’s as useless as the celebrities he covers!!! Since when did politics weigh so much in a damn beauty pageant? Most of the contestants can’t tell their ass from a hole in the ground to begin with, why expect decent answers in the first place??? I don’t know why people WANT to live in this country. we’re no better than a third world country. If we can’t have opinions, what the fuck?
Robert, NYC
@Brian:
Tsk tsk, Brian’s having another hissy fit. You’re beyond hilarious. You’re nothing but a fraud, never heard of ex-gay therapy? Pleeeeeeeeeeeease! You’re a total fraud and an idiot with a school yard mentality. Run along!
ceengoz
America, SAY-NO-TO-GAY agendas now!
Its not right for our children, its not right for our society.
All living things have their purpose on this earth (you know it).
Every body part of any living thing has its purpose and work (you know it).
If any of these body parts, purpose in general is defeated the consequences are complex, and in some cases can be devastating.
I ask all you gays and lesbians,
Why defeat your purpose in life just because of body pleasure?
Why trying to transfer these impairments to the society, what would you gain from it?
Just think of the damage,danger and confusion your putting into the society just because of your personal pleasure.
You should be mad at the person who introduced/initiated you into these gay/lesbian acts/lifestyle. On the other hand if your stuck in this act and you can’t over come why don’t you live your life and don’t try to convert the society.
Man and Man, Woman and Woman MUST not leave together as in matrimony, children of the world MUST not be taught these unnatural acts. The complexity of LGBT lifestyle is too extreme and will be DEVASTATING.
STOP-PEOPLE, GET REAL.
Carl
“her posing for nude photos is hypocritical to her supposed “Christian” moral view, the same view on which she and the NOMards base their opposition to equal rights. They pick-and-choose their morality they same way they pick-and-choose which Biblical passages to observe.”
hypocritical??! NO. She’s just a young woman who made a mistake. Yes, she should have though better BUT that doesn’t mean she cannot stand up for her moral beliefs.
It is unreasonable to expect Christians (or any religious person) to be free from sins.
Besides, there are several reasons why one may be against same-sex marriage without using biblical/religious reasons:
Same Sex Marriage Advocates have done a good job or portraying Marriage as a “RIGHT” that everyone has.
1 view is simply that marriage is NOT a right, but a priveldge. Societies, many of which through out history have been way more open to homosexual relationships, have ALWAYS controlled who and what can enter into marriage. Even in Greek and Roman cultures which believed that love between men was purer and better than love between a man and a women, STILL reserved “marriage” to be between a man and a women. The primary reason for this is because it is the FAMILY unit which is the basis of society. It is in the family unit that the next generation of citizens are raised.
Therefore SOCIETY as a whole has a VERY vested interest in who is entering and exiting the status of marriage. Another wards, marriage is a very protected status… always has been.
Even in very remote and tribal cultures, they always enact rules of who can and can not marry and often times who is marrying whom, is of community interest.
So marriage is not a RIGHT but a priveldge.
2) Many people resent how in the last 40 years, MAJOR social changes are NOT being made by the people, but thru the legal system. Because our nation bases its legal code on “precidence” many people seek sympathetic courts as a way to enact social changes. To MANY people, this undermines the entire basis of a democratic republic. So, unfortunately, the way in which SSM advocates have gone about passing SSM laws, thru liberal judges, makes some people oppose it out of a knee jerk reaction.
3) With the national divorce rate hovering between 50-60%, it seems particularly illrational to ADD to it now. Many people reject the argument that.. “Well heterosexuals have a high divorce rate so why not give homosexuals a chance”
As-if adding to the problem will make the problem better. IF people realy are concerned with the high failure rate of our marriages..then piling on more people won’t seem to help, or rarely makes a problem better. So PRUDENCE seems to say we should be cautious..not wreckless.
3) It seems like a huge social experiment on our kids and our society to add SSM to our existing struggling family. SOME studies have said that kids are just as OK in a SS family as they are in a traditional family, while OTHERS say they aren’t. — So there is debate, and so long as their is a debate, it seems like we are essentially experimenting on our kids, testing our hypothesis that they will be OK, by presenting SSMs as OK. — The fact is we don’t know…so we should be cautious at this juncture.
There HAS TO BE a reason why NONE of the other cultures for the past 4,000 years have tried this before, especially those who were much more liberal then ours.
4) Anything that affects the basis of the family unit, which is the basis of society, has the potential to harm it. Many people simply see that the basic family unit is under enough stress, enough problems, etc. to add anything more to it. To change the fundamental definition of something that is already failing 50% of the time, could very well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. We should focus on FIXING families, reducing divorce rates, physical and sexual abuse, etc. BEFORE radically redefining it. The only examples we DO have of countries which have enacted SSM laws.. have shown marked declines in traditional marriages and an increase in divorce rates.
So what does it fix? How does it improve society.
We shouldn’t be enacting laws simply because we can’t see “what it hurts” we should be enacting social changes that have definite positive benefits, known benefits to society.
4a) simply our lack of knowledge of what it will HURT, is not, in and of itself, a reason to enact a law. We should KNOW what we are doing…not just enacting laws because of ignorance, which is what “I can’t see who it will hurt” is basically about. It is about a lack of knowledge.
Enacting laws with a lack of knowledge of their results is profoundly wreckless, especially concerning the basis of society.
5) The countries which HAVE legalized SSMs have seen a marked drop in marriage amongst heterosexual couples. Teens in Sweden frequently say they don’t see a reason to get married. This dramatic shift occurred in conjunction with SSM laws. So the evidence we DO see, seems to show it has a marked impact on the stability of traditional families.. and remember, marriage is the basis of society.
6) SSM advocates like to make marriage out to be a private thing, which is no one’s business. — However, marriage is a social, not private institution. Society is HEAVILY vested in it. The government has CONSIDERABLE say in it. Who can, when you can, your children’s rights, How you raise your kids, what it takes to disolve a marriage, what happens to custody of kids, property, money, etc.
The government and society are heavily involved in each of our marriages.. that is because it is NOT a right and is the basis of society.
The government only allows us to raise our kids (society’s next citizens) because it thinks we can do a better job then a stranger..BUT, if the government doesn’t think you are doing a good job.. it has every right to step in and GIVE your kids to a stranger (foster parents, Child Protective Services, etc.)
7) the term “natural” has been thrown around a lot. BUT, intrinsic in the argument that homosexuality is “natural” is that IF it is found in nature, then it is OK for us humans to do. RIGHT? I think we can all see how profoundly silly this argument is. As human beings, we can’t simply follow what is “natural” or what we “desire” for very obvious reasons. In fact, doing so, reduces and limits us significantly. We are gifted with large frontal lobes and therefore we should use them and not be merely driven by our sexual desires or our biological imperatives.
Simply because an examples of it can be found elsewhere in nature, does not mean we should emulate it. — I think we can all agree to this.
Usually when the argument of “it’s not natural” is brought up, it is in regards to the sexually complimentarism of the male female body. The sexual body parts of a male and female are “NATURALLY” designed to fit together. When they bond in this way, their sexual intimacy is intrinsically procreative, at least potentially procreative. It is intrinsic to the sexual act.
Homosexual sex, is neither complimentary nor potentially precreative. So this makes it in a sense… unnatural.
So the claim by SOME that it is not natural is NOT a claim that it doesn’t occur in nature, but that it is sexually sterile and non-complimentary. Another wards, regardless if it occurrs or not, it is not how it is suppose to occurr, naturally.
So we can’t say simply because it occurrs that it is OK to do. That logic runs into all sorts of issues.
Robert, NYC
@Carl:
Carl, if you’re basing marriage solely on procreation, and its most definitely not the primary reason for marrying, love is…then you should also support a ban on straight couples who choose not to or who cannot procreate. Marriage licenses or marriage do NOT mandate procreation nor is it a requirement. Your argument is lame. Civil marriage has NOTHING to do with religious marriage. The state issues licenses, not religious denominations or cults.
ceengoz
A lot of you gay and lesbians seem to snob the religion just for your own comfort in this matter. You must respect the religion, it is the truth, it is the manuscripts in which we should live and die, it is through religion that you and I exist today, without it we may not have been.
The fact is that a lot of you are now refusing to accept the truth about your unspeakable lifestyle. It will NEVER be right that two Men share same bed as lovers like wise Woman and Woman. Its in the living manuscripts of all religion for as long as we all can go back in time. ITS BAD. Why are you all LGBT going contrary to all this, why are you giving material things to these weak and unrealistic politicians to make useless laws that will impair the society.
Yes, I acknowledge that there are so many sins (bad things we do) in our society including me and anyone else but what do you do when you do bad, YOU HIDE.
Why are some of you LGBT not hiding and STOP trying to convert the society like
GAYREZ HILTON who just thinks with his stinking ANUS.
In conclusion, regrettably your lifestyle is degrading and sickening and it defeats the purpose of Man and Woman.
There is no Man created to lick another Man’s ANUS, you learn it, someone tells you, you can do it and give you all the world and you’re-in. If you can’t snap out of it, KEEP IT TO YOUSELF, HIDE IT don’t try to change/convert the society. No mother who in her right state-of-mind would wish this type of lifestyle to her baby.
Thank you.
Robert, NYC
@ceengoz:
What an idiot you are! You really think straight men don’t lick women’s anuses let alone penetrate them? You need to rent yourself some hardcore straight porn and find out. Are you aware that more rednecks and religious zealots like you buy more porn in red states than in blue states, that’s a fact. Get your own kind in order first before you start throwing your religious crap at us. Better yet, shove your fucking bible where the sun doesn’t shine. Not all straight men and women can procreate, some are sterile. So I suppose those too should be banned from marrying, pathetic moron that you are. Its NOT a requirement or mandate of marriage either, love is.
ceengoz
Robert:
You caused at me for nothing. You caused at me because I said the truth. The truth hurts I know, but I will continue to say it. The truth is not just in the Bible, its also in the Quran, Bhagvad Gita etc.
But you missed all I said because you ‘re afraid and hurting from the living truth, I do not prefer marriage or love for gays and lesbians. ITS ALL BAD for MAN to marry/love with another MAN like wise WOMAN and WOMAN. Accept this simple FACT/TRUTH.
However, if you love another MAN’S dirty ANUS and PENIS so much that you can’t sleep at night, KEEP-IT-TO-YOURSELF. Don’t try to change the society. This is simply a no-brainer.
Thank you.
Bill Perdue
@Stephen: … tolerance is what we must have, so let’s show a little. She opposes gay marriage; she hasn’t expressed hatred for the LGBT community.
LGBT communities shouldn’t have any level of tolerance for christer or political bigots, whether they’re fundamentalists or those who pray to “Whom it may Concern.” They’re all bad news.
Their opposition to same sex marriage is most definitely an expression of hatred for the GLBT communities. It was true when Clinton and Dole fought for the title of most bigoted in 1996, both supporting the federal DOMA. It was true when Bush won the title and Laura Bush, smiling sweetly, told us not to get so excited about the dozens of state DOMAs because it was just politics. She said that GWB meant no harm. And it was hatred that drove Obama to organize christers and get them out to vote for Prop 8 with the infamous words “gawd’s in the mix”.
Opposition to full same sex marriage equality is bigotry.
It’s an act of extreme hatred to describe a class of people as undeserving of the rights everyone else enjoys. At least that was so in Germany in from 1933 until 1945 for, Jews, union leaders, people with disabilities, the Roma and others. First their rights were legislated away. Then most of them were officially described as sub-human. Later they were murdered until the Red Army crushed the Nazis.
@Robert, NYC: Thanks for taking on Ceengoz, Brian and Carl. As usual with christer bigots they don’t seem to have an ounce of integrity or brains between them.
ceengoz
Please stop the use of BIGOTRY word. Bigotry is hatred, racism and discrimination
And that’s not in anyone’s mind regarding gays and lesbians (LGBT) lifestyle.
How can you use the WORD BIGOTRY when:
No one has deprived you the right to live.
No one has deprived you of your citizenship.
No one has deprived you the right to vote.
No one has deprived you of going to any school or restaurant.
No one has sent you to hard labor against your will.
No one has deprived you any job including high paying jobs.
No one has deprived you of promotion at your job.
No one has deprived you of right to own a property.
No one has deprived you the right to enjoy yourself.
Etc.
If you’re to respect yourself and keep your lifestyle to yourself we wouldn’t be having this back-and-forth.
But instead you want to take a man and turn him to a woman and a woman takes a woman and turn her into a man just for body pleasure and your personal reasons. Then you expect the society to stand up and start clapping for you, I am sorry but this is VERY unfair to the society.
PLEASE STOP THE ADICTION OF SAME-SEX LIFESTYLE.
America The Beautiful, SAY-NO-GAY-LESBIAN’S AGENDAS now before this society and our innocent children get lost/destroyed with this complex unnatural man-made lifestyle of LGBT.
Be truthful to yourself.
No replies.
vernonvanderbilt
@Carl: Some rebuttals to your woefully misguided assertions, if you’ll indulge me.
1. “1 view is simply that marriage is NOT a right, but a priveldge. Societies, many of which through out history have been way more open to homosexual relationships, have ALWAYS controlled who and what can enter into marriage. Even in Greek and Roman cultures which believed that love between men was purer and better than love between a man and a women, STILL reserved “marriage” to be between a man and a women. The primary reason for this is because it is the FAMILY unit which is the basis of society. It is in the family unit that the next generation of citizens are raised.
Therefore SOCIETY as a whole has a VERY vested interest in who is entering and exiting the status of marriage. Another wards, marriage is a very protected status… always has been.
Even in very remote and tribal cultures, they always enact rules of who can and can not marry and often times who is marrying whom, is of community interest.
So marriage is not a RIGHT but a priveldge.”
This entire argument is nullified by the fact that, marriage equality or not, same-sex couples are still creating families all over the nation. Marriage is no guarantee that a family will result, just as lack of marriage is no guarantee that one won’t.
2. “Many people resent how in the last 40 years, MAJOR social changes are NOT being made by the people, but thru the legal system. Because our nation bases its legal code on “precidence” many people seek sympathetic courts as a way to enact social changes. To MANY people, this undermines the entire basis of a democratic republic. So, unfortunately, the way in which SSM advocates have gone about passing SSM laws, thru liberal judges, makes some people oppose it out of a knee jerk reaction.”
So you’re saying the Supreme Court should have left civil rights for African-Americans up to the people? You’re saying that women’s suffrage should have been put up for a vote? By only men? That sure sounds like what you’re saying. Anyone with the slightest knowledge about the muddy and often vile history of America knows that if you leave decisions like these up to the masses, the masses will fail every time. The judicial system’s job is not only to interpret the law, but to ensure that everyone’s civil rights are protected, even those we personally dislike…especially those we personally dislike.
3. “It seems like a huge social experiment on our kids and our society to add SSM to our existing struggling family. SOME studies have said that kids are just as OK in a SS family as they are in a traditional family, while OTHERS say they aren’t. — So there is debate, and so long as their is a debate, it seems like we are essentially experimenting on our kids, testing our hypothesis that they will be OK, by presenting SSMs as OK. — The fact is we don’t know…so we should be cautious at this juncture.
There HAS TO BE a reason why NONE of the other cultures for the past 4,000 years have tried this before, especially those who were much more liberal then ours.”
Refer to me rebuttal to your first point. There is no experiment going on. GLBT folks have children and create families every day, and they have been doing so for centuries. Slapping the label of “marriage” on these relationships does absolutely nothing to change their content or nature. The social experiment argument is a false one.
4. “Anything that affects the basis of the family unit, which is the basis of society, has the potential to harm it. Many people simply see that the basic family unit is under enough stress, enough problems, etc. to add anything more to it. To change the fundamental definition of something that is already failing 50% of the time, could very well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. We should focus on FIXING families, reducing divorce rates, physical and sexual abuse, etc. BEFORE radically redefining it. The only examples we DO have of countries which have enacted SSM laws.. have shown marked declines in traditional marriages and an increase in divorce rates.
So what does it fix? How does it improve society.
We shouldn’t be enacting laws simply because we can’t see “what it hurts” we should be enacting social changes that have definite positive benefits, known benefits to society.”
It’s not about who it hurts, because thus far it has not been shown to hurt anyone. It is about who it helps, in this case hundreds of thousands of established families who are living very tenuously because they do not have the legal protections that heterosexual couples tend to take for granted. And yes, it helps the children of same-sex couples. This argument is invalid because it is only based on maybes and what ifs, presuming problems will occur, rather than looking for any evidence that they will occur. As for that decline in traditional marriage in SSM supporting nations…I want to see some statistics from two or more reputable sources before I’m willing to credit that point to you. I’m not taking your word for anything here.
4a. “simply our lack of knowledge of what it will HURT, is not, in and of itself, a reason to enact a law. We should KNOW what we are doing…not just enacting laws because of ignorance, which is what “I can’t see who it will hurt” is basically about. It is about a lack of knowledge.
Enacting laws with a lack of knowledge of their results is profoundly wreckless, especially concerning the basis of society.”
And yet, we cannot possibly know what it will hurt, or if it will hurt anything or anyone, without doing it. Again, the presumption that damage will be caused, completely lacking in evidence or proof, is not a justifiable excuse to deny equality to a group of people. What there is evidence for, proof of, is that it would help millions of people. I’ll take definite help over possible harm any day, as would any other reasonable, non-bigoted person.
5. “The countries which HAVE legalized SSMs have seen a marked drop in marriage amongst heterosexual couples. Teens in Sweden frequently say they don’t see a reason to get married. This dramatic shift occurred in conjunction with SSM laws. So the evidence we DO see, seems to show it has a marked impact on the stability of traditional families.. and remember, marriage is the basis of society.”
Again, back up these claims with figures from reputable sources. Also, if you’re going to try to connect the decline of Swedish teenage marriage with the passage of marriage equality laws, explain exactly how those two factors are connected, rather than simply assuming they are. Quote some studies. Hell, read a book. Maybe even two.
6. “SSM advocates like to make marriage out to be a private thing, which is no one’s business. — However, marriage is a social, not private institution. Society is HEAVILY vested in it. The government has CONSIDERABLE say in it. Who can, when you can, your children’s rights, How you raise your kids, what it takes to disolve a marriage, what happens to custody of kids, property, money, etc.
The government and society are heavily involved in each of our marriages.. that is because it is NOT a right and is the basis of society.
The government only allows us to raise our kids (society’s next citizens) because it thinks we can do a better job then a stranger..BUT, if the government doesn’t think you are doing a good job.. it has every right to step in and GIVE your kids to a stranger (foster parents, Child Protective Services, etc.)”
And yet, this argument says absolutely nothing about the validity of providing this “privilege” to same sex couples. The fact that government regulates marriage is not an argument against providing access to marriage to every consenting, adult couple who wants it.
7. “the term “natural” has been thrown around a lot. BUT, intrinsic in the argument that homosexuality is “natural” is that IF it is found in nature, then it is OK for us humans to do. RIGHT? I think we can all see how profoundly silly this argument is. As human beings, we can’t simply follow what is “natural” or what we “desire” for very obvious reasons. In fact, doing so, reduces and limits us significantly. We are gifted with large frontal lobes and therefore we should use them and not be merely driven by our sexual desires or our biological imperatives.
Simply because an examples of it can be found elsewhere in nature, does not mean we should emulate it. — I think we can all agree to this.
Usually when the argument of “it’s not natural” is brought up, it is in regards to the sexually complimentarism of the male female body. The sexual body parts of a male and female are “NATURALLY” designed to fit together. When they bond in this way, their sexual intimacy is intrinsically procreative, at least potentially procreative. It is intrinsic to the sexual act.
Homosexual sex, is neither complimentary nor potentially precreative. So this makes it in a sense… unnatural.
So the claim by SOME that it is not natural is NOT a claim that it doesn’t occur in nature, but that it is sexually sterile and non-complimentary. Another wards, regardless if it occurrs or not, it is not how it is suppose to occurr, naturally.
So we can’t say simply because it occurrs that it is OK to do. That logic runs into all sorts of issues.”
So, which is it, natural or unnatural? This entire argument is nothing more than your opinion, and thus it is not an argument at all. Furthermore, by this logic non-procreating heterosexual couples should be barred from marrying as well. I assume you think that’s appropriate then? I don’t even need to point out the religious foundation this argument is based upon.
You’re going to have to try a lot harder, bub. Right now, you’re shooting blanks.
vernonvanderbilt
@ceengoz:
“No one has deprived you the right to live.”
I’ll pick the most famous example, and ask you to tell that to Matthew Shepard. I’m sure he’d agree with you.
“No one has deprived you of your citizenship.”
But they have deprived us of many of the rights and privileges that citizenship is supposed to confer upon every American.
“No one has deprived you the right to vote.”
And no one has deprived our enemies, who are part of the majority, of their right to vote our rights away.
“No one has deprived you of going to any school or restaurant.”
Absolutely false. I was banned from a store once because of my sexual orientation. I’m not the only person this has happened to, either. Do some research before making a ludicrous claim like that one.
“No one has sent you to hard labor against your will.”
It didn’t happen in America, but that is exactly what Oscar Wilde was sentenced to in England. It also happens all over the world, actually. If America had the sentence to hard labour as a standard punishment, we probably would have found ourselves subjected to it at some point in history. Hell, for all I know, we did.
“No one has deprived you any job including high paying jobs.”
Actually, they have, and in many states they are still permitted to, including my own home state of Ohio.
“No one has deprived you of promotion at your job.”
See my last answer. It still applies.
“No one has deprived you of right to own a property.”
See the previous answer yet again. It still applies where housing is concerned.
“No one has deprived you the right to enjoy yourself.”
I’d say all of the above examples pretty effectively negate this ridiculous assertion of yours.
“If you’re to respect yourself and keep your lifestyle to yourself we wouldn’t be having this back-and-forth.”
That’s the funny part…we’re not the ones inviting bigots like yourself to partake of our “lifestyle.” Rather, you’re the ones trying to force us to take part in yours.
“But instead you want to take a man and turn him to a woman and a woman takes a woman and turn her into a man just for body pleasure and your personal reasons.”
This statement is completely lacking in both logic and common sense. You’re just being an idiot now.
“Then you expect the society to stand up and start clapping for you, I am sorry but this is VERY unfair to the society.”
Actually, what we really want is for society to treat us like human beings, give us equality, and then stay the hell out of our lives and families. I don’t see how that is unfair to anyone…except bigots.
“PLEASE STOP THE ADICTION OF SAME-SEX LIFESTYLE.”
Bitch, please.
“America The Beautiful, SAY-NO-GAY-LESBIAN’S AGENDAS now before this society and our innocent children get lost/destroyed with this complex unnatural man-made lifestyle of LGBT.”
Now you’ve stopped making any kind of sense. You’re getting a bit panicky, child.
“Be truthful to yourself.”
Don’t say it unless you mean it, fuckhead.
“No replies.”
Try and stop me. You’re on our turf, bitch. We make the rules here.
schlukitz
Beeyootiful, Vernon. You gave Carl and ceengoz the bitch-slappin’ they earned and so richly deserved.
I mean, who invited them into our site to begin with? If they can’t take the heat of the kitchen, then they should GTF out!
How would they like it, if we gays came into their hetero-dedicated chat rooms, blog sites, their homes or even their places of worship for the express purpose of laying our insults, derision and verbal abuse on them in the same manner they seem to feel entitled to do on ours?
Talk about being disrespectful to one’s host? I guess Carl and Ceenoz’s butt plugs must have fallen out and they are feeling a tad cranky. ;-P
Dennis
@vernonvanderbilt:
Brava! Your contribution to “civilizing” and “edumacating” the savages is duly noted and much appreciated!
You’re earning “good karma points” in gay heaven! Kudos!
vernonvanderbilt
@schlukitz: @Dennis: Thanks, peeps. It takes a village…or something. I dunno. It’s late.
Robert, NYC
@Bill Perdue:
Bill, you’re most welcome, glad you were able to get to this topic, I was about to cut and past some of the comments and email them to you.
Ceengoz, FYI….I was fired from a job during the early 80s, before New York City had any protections for sexual orientation based on my perceived orientation. I worked at a Catholic organization of all places, was befriended by one of the closeted gay priests, one of my supervisors. It didn’t take long before the very unchristian hatemongers among them saw to it that I never worked there again, the busybodies, gossipers and bearers of lies and smears. I was escorted to the door as if I’d committed some criminal offense. So quit spreading lies and hate if you want to consider yourself a christian, you clearly are not.
Vernon…..thank you again and to everyone else for taking on these bigots and haters.
ceengoz
Finally,
You can make all the excuses in the world to justify your lifestyle. Listen, America will not buy that anymore, we’re not stupid. Accept that your lifestyle is wrong, its wrong for the society, its wrong for our innocent children. (“Its like drinking from the toilet bowl”) while you have a host of other faucets but you chose to go to the toilet bowl. Just because you may have started early to drink from the toilet bowl does not make it right, it’s still the wrong place to get water.
And if I let my 2-1/2 year old he will drink water from the toilet bowl, if I encourage him he will continue to drink from there and by age 6, he will begin to feel that’s the way of life and by age 10-12 it’s a done deal. No one can tell him otherwise.
But this is a child however, most of you are grown smart men and women whom should know better but yet you chose the ANUS of another man. ANUS has it own purpose, for waste (SHIT) not for PENIS.
LGBT, as you’re going full force publicly and demanding change of society on this matter, people are beginning to think, research and trying to understand this complex and confusing lifestyle of (“Anything Goes”) LGBT like myself.
I never cared about who’s gay or lesbian but soon as this matter hit the mainstream such as Carrie Prejean (Miss USA ) answer to a question from GAYREZ HILTON, that was it,
I thought of the longtime impact, effect and health danger of this lifestyle and there is no-way anyone with clear understanding can pass this complex and confusing lifestyle.
The time will soon run-out of empathy that got you to this point. Now if someone says something right, most of you becomes outraged immediately, causing, being uncivil and all sorts of nonsense.
john Weller
LOL Bunch of weak liberals in here. Dont be afriad of an opinion that is different than yours…LOL Live free and let live opposing opinions are a good thing…that is what our fathers fought for remember. Put your finger in your own face and improve yourself before wasting anymore time getting worked up about this stunning woman who does not succumb to the pressure being put on her by the liberal hooligans. LOL are we in America? This is so Latin American. Democracy not popularity…lets keep it real in the USA!!!!
john Weller
@Dennis: I would move…your country sounds ignorant
vernonvanderbilt
@ceengoz: “causing”
You keep saying this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
vernonvanderbilt
@ceengoz: Furthermore, if you had even one iota of sense in that pointed, little head of yours, you’d understand that no one will ever take you seriously if you cannot even respond to and/or rebut criticisms of your statements. I proved you wrong an virtually every point you made above, and since you can’t defend your idiocies, you just go on the attack again in the most nonsensical manner I’ve seen here in quite a while. You’re a buffoon, you’re a troll, and you’re playing on the wrong field.
john Weller
I am glad Perez Hilton showed the intelligence of the liberal majority. This 21 one year old pagent contestant gave her opinion and now the liberals are so threatened that they have put on an all out assuult on every aspect of her life. LOL LOL LOL
vernonvanderbilt
@john Weller: I hardly think we’re threatened by a bible-batting, blonde, bimbo beauty queen’s bigotry. She’s a liar and a hypocrite, and it’s fun to call people out for those things. You’re a buffoon.
jamesjames
@ceengoz: OBAMA IS BIGOT
Jaroslav
“Exploitive Sexual Images?”
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HER PICTURES.
GIVING HER NAMES CAN COME ONLY FROM FAGOTS?
jj
schlukitz
@ceengoz:
“Accept that your lifestyle is wrong, its wrong for the society, its wrong for our innocent children.”
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Bigots like you also said the same thing about interracial marriage too while thump your bibles.
BIOOYA
Jaroslav
I STILL DID NOT GET IT. HOW CAN HOMOSEXUAL MAN MAKE DECISION ABOUT WOMAN. IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO HAVE THEM AS JURORS…..jj
Robert, NYC
@Jaroslav:
Jaroslav, simple. I’ll ask you the same question in reverse. How can straight women make decisions about gay men? Some of the Mr. America contestants are gay, you asshole. Seems like you can’t stay away from gay people with your constant presence and idiotic rants here. I pity any woman unfortunate enough to get involved with a redneck like you, assuming you like women. Seems pretty weird for a so called straight guy hanging out on a gay blogsite. Prurient interest perhaps?
Kostas
WE RULE HERE!!! (bitches)
Kostas
YOU ARE A ………….. Ha ha ha
inetadv
F*ck all of you sanctimonious liberal twits. It’s so goog to see you all practicing your famous ‘tolerance’ of all viewpoints. You supposedly respect diversity and individuals’ rights to express varied opinions and beliefs. But god forbid (so to speak) anyone opens their mouth with a belief that runs counter to yours and watch those personal attacks and hateful insults fly. I’m sorry, what was that you were preaching about – hypocrisy? EXACTLY
Robert, NYC
@inetadv:
Touche’! I think the shoe is on the other foot, pal.
Prejean claims to be a student of the bible and a so called “christian”. Well, here we have an airhead exposing her flesh for all to see. mostly for the benefit of similarly minded, retarded straight men as well as some semi-nude poses from her brief past and she’s decrying exploitive sexual images of women? Pleeeeeeeeeease….what a dumb ass, doesn’t she realize what she’s saying? She’s contradicting her bibilical beliefs. She IS indeed objectifying images of women by posing in skimpy swimsuits and semi nude stints and flaunting her flesh in public, hardly a virtue that her book of fairy tales espouses. She’s lost the moral argument and definitely scored points for the religious right wing wackos who now have the persistent ear of the obstructionist party of hate. Bring it on Prejean, you’re alienating the GOP even further into political exile, you too “inetadv”!
Joanaroo
The Christer idiots that commented on this thread have proven again why I hate organized religion. If these bastards think they’re going to heaven with a bible in one hand and a picture of Prejean, tissues and their dick in the other, and if I was stupid enough to believe in their superstitious nonsense-I would hope I go to hell. Having to put up with the assholes in life, I sure as hell wouldn’t want to in eternity.
Samuel
In all the crap that this and prop 8 have unleashed I’ve still never seen anyone ask one question:
WTF, Wouldn’t you think that religious organizations would want to keep government as far from their front door as possible!?
Government needs to get out of the church, temple, synagogue…, and although the Separation of Church and State is somewhat a joke … It shouldn’t be. If there was a definitive separation then Prejean’s statement wouldn’t matter… and she’d be entitled to her opinion… its the fact good old CA is pretty much forcing a certain sect of Christianity on all of us thats the problem.
Get married in your church to who ever your church lets you… don’t like it? – switch churches… don’t make the rest of us switch states… or for that matter countries.
Governments – Stop Marrying People! … a generic domestic partnership for tax purposed will do!
Gary Smith
Many of you just need to get over it. If you are truly in favor of people being people then why drag this girl through your drivle? Yeh most Christians don’t know what they are talking about, but as the Tao said, “Those who know do not say, those who say do not know”. The whole debate over who (which group) is more “righteous” is a nonstarter. Work for equality, not labels.
Mykey D.
The Whole fieasco is Drama Jeleous People with nothing better to do Then Gissip . Chunck a Stone Maby I’throw one at you bud . what gives You People the right to Snide yourselves above someone else? You Each Have Issues with LUST HYPOCRACY AND DENYING God Almightys’ LAW . So If You Juge her then God will eventually turn the heat lamp on you . For the second point Her Cloths are on . there are more titty’s showing on the Miss USA Pagent then on Miss PreJean’s Photo Shoot . Damned Homosexuals will you not stop with your Herasy . God Bless Each of You Americans (International Viewers aswell) Who Repent . Those who Don’t and Hold their sinful Ways . GO TO HELL . QUIT TRODDING UNDER THE CHOSEN , ELECT,AND REMNENT … PERIOD
FERVENTLY
MykeyD.
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The bitch is stuck on the gravy train of hate and she aint gettin off till she has milked it for all its worth. I thought she died.
ewe
@Jaroslav: Of course you don’t find anything wrong with objectifying female meat. The issue is that this cunt is a two face bitch just like you.
ewe
maybe maggot gallagher can sit on her face for the next photo shoot?