Police in San Bernardino County, CA have opened an investigation into the death of Marc Angelucci, a prominent attorney involved in the so-called “Men’s Rights” movement.
NBC News reports officers responding to a call discovered the 52-year-old lawyer suffering from apparent gunshot wounds on Sunday. Authorities pronounced him dead at the scene, though the motive for the shooting–as well as the identity of the shooter–remains unknown.
Angelucci gained notoriety as the founder of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Coalition for Men, a controversial group that describes itself as “a nonprofit organization that raises awareness about the ways sex discrimination affects men and boys.” Historically, the group emphasizes male reproductive rights, fighting paternity claims, and maintaining the gender pay gap, which NCFM claims is proper as “men work far more hours at high-stress jobs they hate with longer commutes, less flexibility, more physical risk, etc., just to be breadwinners and feed their families, only to die younger and get bashed for ‘earning more.'”
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The Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled the National Coalition for Men a “Male Supremacist” group, which favors the subjugation of women. In addition, leaders of the group have argued to legalize rape, referred to queer people as “social parasites” and contended that women use their sexuality to enslave men.
Angelucci’s record with NCFM included winning an anti-discrimination case that argued male domestic abuse victims are entitled to state funds for victim services, and most recently, arguing that a male-only military draft is discriminatory. He also appeared in the derided 2016 documentary The Red Pill which further demonized women and feminism.
Police have not yet identified any suspects in the shooting.
CurtisIsTheOne
I’d wager a bet that he was killed by…{roll drum} a MAN?
RaymondC
Wow Curtis did you go to Harvard?
HeForeverBleeds
Your point being? Most female genital mutilation is committed by the victim’s mother and other female relatives. Does the perpetrator being the same sex as the victim somehow make it less of a crime?
PoetDaddy
I’m waiting for this news to register on my sympathy meter. So far… absolute zero.
RaymondC
That’s the kinda post no one needs to read bitch!
Dymension
I realize he may not be everyone’s favorite person, but like it or not he’s entitled to his views. I certainly hope it wasn’t an activist who killed him because we all lose credibility. Like Michele says, when they go low, we go high.
Joshooeerr
It’s interesting that a website predominantly read by gay men is so casually dismissive of the “so-called men’s rights movement”. I don’t know about Angelucci’s specific activism, but there’s a good deal in the growing men’s rights groups that aligns with the interests of gay men, and it’s worth being a little more open-minded. Men still die considerably earlier than women (even in countries without US-style gun laws). Boys are increasingly disadvantaged in education. Men and Boys still have suicide rates hugely greater than Women and girls. All these things are indicative of the ways “male power” and “patriarchy” isn’t always such a great deal for men, and many of the writings about “men’s rights” are about exploring and addressing these issues. Does that really deserve such blanket dismissal?
Blue Zoo
@joshooeerr – Kinda hard to treat them as seriously advocating for justice after reading what they have to say, though. Go ahead, click on the link up there and then tell me you expect us to get behind that.
Cam
Except for the fact that he, a prominent leader in the group was an anti-LGBTQ bigot, advocated for the legalization of rape and called LGBTQ people parasites.
So, no, I don’t really see where our interests align. We can explore suicide prevention in youth without advocating rape.
scotshot
A group of emotionally stunted damaged incense.
Tim44309
You make a valid point. I am not at all familiar with the motives or objective of Angelucci, but as a public school educator I can say that in secondary and college level education, girls far exceed boys in the USA today. The discipline, suspension, expulsion, and failure lists are predominantly males. So like so many things the role of men in society has to be explored in discussed. I think gay men have made the world a better place for all men, by promoting the thinking/feeling/connecting aspects of masculinity.
HeForeverBleeds
Blue Zoo, as if you’ve actually read what MRA’s have had to say. You probably don’t spend very much time if any on actual MRA forms. And no, incel, male supremacy, and MGTOW forms are not the same as MRA forms. Don’t let your opinion on MRA’s be based on anti-MRA lies you read on feminist websites, you should actually do the research for yourself
I would suggest starting with the video “Why Don’t We Hear About Men’s Rights? | Marc Angelucci” or the film “The Red Pill” to get a better idea about what MRA’s actually have to say, vs. what anti-MRA’s say MRA’s actually have to say
HeForeverBleeds
Joshooeerr you are correct, but unfortunately most people blindly dismiss anything related to men’s rights activism because it’s what they’re brainwashed to do. They grow up being taught about “male privilege” and “female oppression” to the extent that the idea of male victims, discrimination against males, female perpetrators, etc. doesn’t register with them. They immediately dismiss it, usually without actually knowing the first thing about what MRA’s believe
E.g. this stupid article claiming that MRA’s are homophobic has no clue what it’s talking about. Angelucci specifically was progressive and very supportive of gay people. But the ignorant, knee-jerk reaction of anti-MRA’s is that they’re all “homophobic whiny incels afraid of women’s power!”
Gay men’s rights are men’s rights, and most homophobia against gay men is fueled by misandry. Hence why there’s so much more violence and so many more laws against gay men than lesbians. The rights of all men are important, and it’s idiotic that it’s somehow controversial to some people in the gay community to be an advocate for males’ rights
o.codone
Dude, it’s just the orthodoxy here. You come here to pledge loyalty, not to have a discussion. Either you’re a believer, or you’re not. If you don’t adhere to the entire package (you see what I’ve done here, haahaa), then go elsewhere. Queerty readers are the mobsters, not the intellectuals. Choose your side *before* the war breaks out. Very quickly it’ll be too late. I’ll see you out there bro.
Cam
Were you replying to somebody or is this just late stage alcohol or syphilis psychosis talking?
scotshot
Poor victim can’t keep up.
JohnDoe
Wow, this article (and the comments section) explore new depths of stupidity and intolerance. Marc Angelucci was a gay-friendly lawyer. Meanwhile, did anyone know that Nazi Germany murdered gay men but not lesbians? Also, how many “queers” are aware of the fact that legal codes that ban homosexuality only ban male homosexuality, not lesbianism? David Reddish, by the way, is a terrorist who is singing praises of the war criminal called John Bolton on his Twitter feed. Who hired you to write this hit piece, David?
Cam
So, if I understand this correctly, you’re saying that this movement today is valid because Nazis didn’t go after lesbians as hard as they went after gay men?
Do by that logic you could also argue that the movement is invalid because women didn’t have the right to vote in this country until 1919.
HeForeverBleeds
No, Cam, I don’t believe you are understanding it correctly. It seems JohnDoe’s point is that gay men’s rights are apart of men’s rights. And vice versa: men’s rights activism is also about gay men’s rights. This article’s treating Angelucci and the men’s rights movement as a whole as something homophobic is not only ignorant but in fact the opposite of the truth
I’m bisexual, and also an MRA. Much of the discrimination, violence, and laws against gay men are fueled by misandry. Additionally, your argument about women not having the right to vote until 1919 is flawed. It’s 2020 and men still don’t have the right to vote without signing their bodies over to the government. While women can vote without needing to register for selective service
And that somehow invalidates the need for a men’s rights movement? No, it fuels the need for it
wikidBSTN
Taking wagers on whether he was killed because he was a “Men’s Rights” supporter/agitator or because he was a lawyer.
wooly101
I don’t agree withthe the victim’s way of thinking but his organization does raise some valid points.
o.codone
Years ago there was a guy who posted the most negative, inflammatory and judgmental comments on *every single post* here on Queerty. His name was, Jacomo1985 or maybe Georgio1985? I don’t remember. Anyway, he brought Queerty to it’s knee (hahahah) b/c he could not, would not STFU. Eventually he, and his 10 other names got banned, for good. That’s when we got the new Comment Policy. Thank god. But, now we have CAM, another guy who comments *on every single comment*, and, once again we have a problem. It’s time for CAM to read the comments policy. It’s time to stop being so negative and name calling. Nobody wants to read your comments on *everything*. Really, all the time, on everything? Especially when it’s nasty? CAM. Go outside, take a deep breath and consider your options. Mom isn’t gonna let you live down there forever.
HeForeverBleeds
I’m bisexual and a men’s rights activist, and this characteristic of them is inaccurate and ignorant. Marc Angelucci hasn’t said a single misogynistic or homophobic statement, and it’s clear this author has never actually heard anything he had to say, nor likely anything many MRA’s in general have had to say
You should look up “Why Don’t We Hear About Men’s Rights? | Marc Angelucci” if you want to see the kind of ideas this man actually had. if you do, you’ll see it has nothing to do with subjugating women or thinking gay people are “parasites”. That’s literally just made up nonsense
Operator7G
^ This. Total fabrication.