Frank Schubert, who this website affectionately describes as a “marriage rights rapist,” was hired by the National Organization for Marriage to take away marriage rights in California and Maine. He, ahem, succeeded both times. But isn’t this curious: His own sister is gay. And she’s running for a judgeship.
Anne Marie Schubert, currently a deputy district attorney for Sacramento, announced she’s running to be a Sacramento County Superior Court judge. And while the Republican doesn’t mention her sexuality or family on her own website (just a resume), the Bay Area Reporter notes she bought her house with a one Julie Greenberg, who she’s raising two children with. Not that Anne Marie’s sexuality has been a secret; Frank Schubert has acknowledged his gay sister in press interviews.
So how does Frank reconcile having a gay sister while also campaigning to eliminate marriage equality?
Perhaps the tougher question is how Anne Marie reconciles having a brother who’s a first-rate douchebag. Not that she’s commenting on Prop 8 or her brother’s activities. She is, after all, running for a court bench, which might one day have a hand in deciding things like this. “Because I am running for a judicial seat, I am bound by the California Code of Judicial Ethics. This code applies to both sitting judges and attorneys running for judicial office,” she tells BAR via email. “This code makes it clear that ‘Candidates may not make statements that commit the candidate with respect to cases, controversies, or issues that could come before the courts.’ This code also states, ‘Judges involved in judicial campaigns must also avoid comment concerning a matter pending or impending in any court.'”
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You’ve heard that urban legend about gay Americans who don’t actually care much about marriage, let alone want marriage rights? Although Anne Marie and partner Julie are in a registered domestic partnership, it’s hard to tell whether the possibly-future Superior Court judge falls into that camp, or gives her brother cold stares from across the Thanksgiving table.
terrwill
Ahh, those golden consertive “traditional family values”…..
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
@ terriwll
I know.
Wow.
I’m not sure what I can say. But I know I wouldn’t sitting across someone-brother or not, who is against everything I am.
Self hate anyone?
Fitz, this was exactly the kind of stuff I was talking about regarding gay marriage and the major issues that lie within the culture.
Ian
She’s a Republican so most likely yes, she is against gay marriage herself.
Fitz
John- I’m fried. It’s been a very (very) long day. Crush it up, please, and spoon feed it to me because I am not getting the connection at all. This lesbian has an ass for a brother. Even leading a productive life & raising kids, and all that has not convinced him that she is a human.
B
Fitz wrote, “This lesbian has an ass for a brother. Even leading a productive life & raising kids, and all that has not convinced him that she is a human.”
Why would you draw that conclusion? The article said her brother was hired by NOM. He could simply view NOM as a client he’s providing services to, figuring that if he didn’t do it, someone else would anyway. His excuse would be “I needed the money.”
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
@ Fitz
Lol. I’m crushing it.
And I’ll put a disclaimer that I’m prolly being pretty harsh and unfair, so this is very subjective…
But during the whole prop 8 thing…why didn’t she make herself more visible? Be it funding or visually supporting no on prop 8? This could’ve really helped, the fact that this bright, woman with a brother that is ‘normal'(in these homo haters eyes), is ‘just like you’?
The problem with these mentalists is that they don’t think they KNOW any gay people OR they think these people are all sluts, weird etc etc..
To have someone like HER, esp with her link, support the cause, would’ve been a HUGE thing. I think.
I don’t know. I’ve been feeling harsh today and p*ssed off at 2009 but to me she’s like Mary Cheney. They pass. Not part of the ‘out’ gay scene but of course lead their lives how they want to but it leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
That taste because they do nothing to support or advance gay rights and they ‘fit in’, homophobes see them as ‘one of us’, not ‘like the others’…which to me is debatable about how productive that actually is.
But hey, this is just my opinion and goes back to what GOproud are doing at that CPA something event.
Though something tells me she’s never had it tough as an lgbt poor person and prolly can’t even empathise with what marriage would mean to lgbt people who are partnered, not rich and want to support each other etc…
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
@ B
_roll eyes_
Would you take the gig if you had a brother/sister who was half black or black by adoption to work for a group that is anti-blacks?
And you would say at least you’re getting paid?
I’ll stop now because this is so far from my way of working that it doesn’t matter.
I’m a passionate human rights activists and someone who abhors people treating the bottom line as just profit, so, lol, you can guess that to me the brother is ‘an ass’.
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
@ B
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_bottom_line
terrwill
B:
> If your sister were a jew would you work for a nazi group?
> If your sister were black would you work for the klu klux klan?
See where I am going here??????
I am so damm exhausted by hearing of the party of “traditional family values” pissing all over other members of their famlies.
I can virtually guarantee Frank Schubert has at the very least been divorced, and god knows what other skeletons are rattling around in his closet……..
> Classic example: Vito Fosella the repugnatican congressman from Staten Island, NY. Has a Gay sister who is in a long term commited relatinship with kids. Vito refused to attend any functions which his own sister was present, because it was an “affront to traditional family values”
Then lo and behold Vito gets pulled over for DWI and speeding in DC and gets bailed out by a woman other than his wife. This guy was so damm pro traditional family values that he went out and got himself TWO “traditional famlies”!!! He had a wife and two sons in Staten Island. And unknown to her and his sons he was living while in DC with another woman and had a daughter with her!!……….
..What compells these people to develop such hate towards the Gays??? It is reprehensive and as I have stated before I only pray for a few items. One is that Satan has a very dark corner in hell reserved for a specific few wherest he has conjured up the most torturous damnation for all eternity for those who spew such hatred towards those who only want to live their lives in peace………….
1EqualityUSA
Post number four was really cute.
Fitz
Thanks. Well– this is complicated because her position did forbade any kind of public disclosure on a pending proposition. On the other hand… there was nothing preventing her from a personal statement acknowledging that (for example, and “if”)she had lost contact with her alcoholic, whore mongering brother. And you are right that her socio-economic status protected her from really facing the harshest of discrimination that most lesbos face.
The “it was his Job” question could have come from the playbook of a Nazi Guard apologist.
B
Regarding No 7, No 8, and No 9, you guys are back to shooting the messenger.
If the two of you are so daft as to belief that there are not people who act as “hired guns” and divorce their personal beliefs from their business, I’d like to offer both of you a discount on a sale of the Golden Gate Bridge. Just deposit 5 million into my bank account. It’s a real bargain.
It may surprise you and be difficult for the two of you to understand, but I was in fact merely pointing out a logical hole in Fitz’s argument – there was a case he didn’t consider. The lesbian’s brother may still be an “ass” as Fitz said, but what he does for a living is not an accurate indication of his personal opinions regarding his sister or anyone else.
Brian Miller
She’s a Republican so most likely yes, she is against gay marriage herself.
Kinda like most Democrats, then — especially anti-gay President Obama (who condemns gay marriage in his 2007 book) and pro-DOMA-voting VP Joe Biden.
Seriously, partisanship is such nonsense.
during the whole prop 8 thing…why didn’t she make herself more visible?
Ethical judges don’t participate in political activities, especially ones that they might be ruling upon later. It is improper.
B
In No 11, Fitz said, “The ‘it was his Job’ question could have come from the playbook of a Nazi Guard apologist.”
Fitz, are you claiming that there is a law of nature that would make it impossible for a real Nazi guard to have had a Jewish
wife (whose ethnicity he kept secret), while “doing his duty” at his post?
The fact is that some individuals can compartmentalize their lives to such an extent. Not everyone can (and hardly any would to such an extreme extent as a hypothetical Nazi guard with a Jewish wife), but it is a possibility. The hole in your reasoning was that you didn’t consider that case.
Do you think an attorney representing a murderer approves of murder? Do you think a professional writer doing an editing job only accepts work from people whose writings he agrees with?
Oh, and did you ever see the movie (http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9D0CE5DA1638F93BA15755C0A967958260 – based on a true story) about Solomon Perel, who survived the Nazi regime by a variety of subterfuges including a stint as an admired Hitler Youth? No, he didn’t like them but the subterfuge beat being killed in a concentration camp.
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John's)
@ Terrwill
Brilliant post.
@ B
Go suck yourself. You’re so full of shit and hate on a gay website that I’m baffled you’re allowed to comment but than Queerty doesn’t have any morals, so a…ok.
But stop speaking shit. You can understand my post as I said it. why the HELL would someone take a job that is a direct infliction on their brother or sister?
Oh ignore me.
Happy New Year.
Queerty nkows your IP. All good and dandy. Apologies, I need to stay away from this site like I used to.
So long fitz, chitown, terrwill etc etc..
New Year. New Way.
Fitz
There is no hole in my logic there. If he is able to compartmentalize that much, then he is an ass. Or more accurately, a narcissist with a sociopath side. Happy New Years to all. Stay safe.
Brian Miller
John, I don’t know what’s funnier — your complete lack of knowledge on US LGBT issues, your insistence that your way is the only way to view queer issues, or your rampant anti-Americanism.
I don’t go to British queer web sites to lambaste the British gay public’s refusal to support meaningful asylum for numerous queer refugees sent back by Whitehall to certain death in Algeria, etc. I don’t spend endless hours on British gay sites mocking the British LGBT public for gratefully accepting separate and unequal status under “civil partnerships.”
Why do you do the reverse equivalent here on Queerty?
You’re always giving a sop on “diversity,” but like most people who doth protesteth too much, you don’t have much tolerance for people, countries or views that deviate from your own by even millimeters.
Brian Miller
her socio-economic status protected her from really facing the harshest of discrimination that most lesbos face
I hear this sop time and again. I have yet to see a real example of how this dynamic supposedly works.
Brian Miller
some individuals can compartmentalize their lives to such an extent. Not everyone can (and hardly any would to such an extreme extent as a hypothetical Nazi guard with a Jewish wife), but it is a possibility. The hole in your reasoning was that you didn’t consider that case.
Agreed, and frankly, many queer Democrats do this every day.
Joe Biden, strong supporter of DOMA and DADT, the two most anti-gay federal laws in American history, is presented at an HRC dinner of “being a strong ally in the fight for equality.”
All criticism of the homophobic American presidency is slammed by “liberals” as being “counterproductive.”
The NJ legislature skips out on marriage equality legislation, yet lots of gay rights advocates state that it’s “important to get out the vote in 2010” to support the same people who couldn’t be bothered to help us.
British critics of American policy in Iraq spend endless hours pontificating on how horrible the Iraq War is, yet turn out 80% or more for the Labour Party in Britain that was 100% behind the war in Britain rather than for the anti-war Lib Dems.
It’s a human condition.
Fitz
Brian, there are many obvious examples of how socio-economic status partially shields from some of the inequalities of homophobic laws. The most obvious examples have to do with housing and estate planning, including retirement and/or disability planning. For example, I have set up a “Special Needs Trust” which will make sure that my spouse can have some of the nice things in life after I have expired, without risking his access to benefits. I own my home, I don’t need to deal with housing discrimination. There are more subtle examples too… been on a nice vacation with your lover? When you are in a resort, no one looks askew when you kiss or hold hands. Do you live in a nice neighborhood? We don’t quite face all of the ugliness that poor and working class gays do… though we still get royally screwed on serious issues. But being without means AND queer puts you in double jeopardy. Do you really think that wealthier gays face as much danger as poor gays?
Joe Biden is an enemy of GLBT people, no question. Many of us feel that way about HRC too. Attending an HRC dinner gives no status, in my book. (except that it says that you are either politically connected or can afford a $5,000 dinner).
FakeName
Yes, she is now a judicial candidate. The canon of ethics may reasonably be interpreted as now binding her from giving her opinion on Prop 8, although the likelihood that a Prop 8 case will come before her considering the state-level case is already over is minuscule. She was not a judicial candidate during the campaign her brother orchestrated to pass Prop 8. She was free to speak up then and did not. She’s scum, from a family of scum.
GayDNCBoycott
FakeName:
EXACTLY. I’m sick of self-hating Gays and Lesbians doing NOTHING while their families are working against LGBT rights. Good work, Anne Marie, Mary Cheney, and everyone who works for the kiss-ass HRC.
Then again, self-hating Gays and Lesbians still make excuses for homophobes like Obama and Biden, so no sure why any of us are surprised, unfortunately
Robert, NYC
Interesting that Dick Cheney only came out in support of marriage equality after he was out of office, after Mary’s first child was born. Then we have Obama along with Biden who strongly believe in legal segregation for an entire group of voters and taxpayers who don’t even have full representation.
B
No. 16 · Fitz wrote, “There is no hole in my logic there. If he is able to compartmentalize that much, then he is an ass. Or more accurately, a narcissist with a sociopath side.”
Sorry Fitz, but there was a hole in your logic when you wrote, “Even leading a productive life & raising kids, and all that has not convinced him that she is a human,” because you assumed without proof that what he was doing for a living reflected his personal beliefs and relation with his sister.
It’s your prerogative to call him an “ass” for working for a homophobic organization, but your other statement was the one that lacked sufficient justification to make.
B
John from England(used to be just John but there are other John’s)
mad a fool of himself once again by writing, “Go suck yourself. You’re so full of shit and hate on a gay website that I’m baffled you’re allowed to comment but than Queerty doesn’t have any morals, so a…ok.”
You are simply a liar, not to mention a hypocrite given your own hate-filled comments where you lash out at anyone who disagrees with you in the slightest.
What you are ranting about is a simple statement on my part that a political operative working for an anti-gay organization may not think his lesbian system is less than human. It’s true – some people behave that way. You know, like Mary Cheney, who is a lesbian but worked to for the Bush/Cheney campaign even though Bush supported a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages (the support for the amendment vaporized after the election – it was merely to get the homophobe vote).
Fitz
B, you have a nice room temp IQ.
Either he is an ass for being a homophobic jerk OR
He is an ass for not being one, but accepting work as one.
This is my last interaction with you.
B
No. 26 · Fitz throwing a fit wrote “B, you have a nice room temp IQ. Either he is an ass for being a homophobic jerk OR
He is an ass for not being one, but accepting work as one.”
Can’t read English, can you? I specifically stated that you were “free” to call him an “ass” for working for NOM, but when you wrote, regarding his lesbian sister, “Even leading a productive life & raising kids, and all that has not convinced him that she is a human,” that was pure speculation on your part with zero data to support it.
B
No. 23 · Robert, NYC wrote, “Interesting that Dick Cheney only came out in support of marriage equality after he was out of office, after Mary’s first child was born.”
What happened is the Bush (probably at the direction of someone like Karl Rove) was touting a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages in order to get the conservatives out to vote in larger numbers. Dick Cheney cared more about winning the election than about gay rights, so he downplayed the issue so as to not interfere with the efforts to get out the homophobe vote. Now he’s trying to reposition himself. It’s all about marketing – that’s how politicians think about it, Republican ones especially.
lee
I think you all need to leave Ann Marie alone. She is a very cool person. I’ve known her for damm near 20 years. I think I may have known she was gay before she did. We worked together in the 1990s. I am a straight male and I think gays should be allowed to marry. But you all need to climb off her back and let her live her life. If she can live with her brothers gig then that’s all that counts