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Prop. 8’s Friends and Enemies

38892345-15111936Last week, the deadline passed for amicus curiae briefs, or so called “friend of the court” filings, for the upcoming California Supreme Court hearing on Prop. 8. Hundreds of groups sent in their petitions to the court, both for and against the measure, which outlawed same-sex marriage in the state. They range from 120-page treatises on prior case law to bizarre ramblings from the lunatic fringe, but they represent the last major hurdle before the Court begins its hearings, which may be as soon as early March.

Our favorites, both for and against, are below.

  For or Against Prop. 8 Type of Group What Do They Want? What They’re Saying
Against All-consuming Mega-corporation Fears gay employees will rewrite algorithms so all searches lead here. “Denying employees basic rights isn’t right, and it isn’t good for businesses. We are committed to preserving fundamental rights for every one of the people who work hard to make Google a success.”
Michael McDermott
For Vocal Advocate of “The Male Minority” Fears women, especially women who don’t want to have sex with men. “By creation of a suspect class (whether self-identified as “Dykes” or euphemistically called “Lesbians”, although the court fails to define the term), with rights greater than all others, this Court essentially upholds a prohibition on Men challenging such rank Misandrist Hatred.”
Joslin and Michael Wald et. al.
Against Family Law Specialists from 13 California Law Schools If Prop. 8 is upheld, marriages which happened before its passage must be upheld. “Our amicus brief argues that the only possible answer to this question is that Proposition 8 has no effect on these marriages [which occurred before Prop. 8 passed.]”
Campaign for California Families
For Lawyers, but especially evil lawyers. Jesus, but not the half-naked “hangs around with guys all day” Jesus. “It is simply inaccurate to say that reaffirming the traditional definition of marriage singles out homosexuals for exclusion. Even the radical re-definition of marriage currently sought by gay activists maintains exclusions based on such factors as age and monogamy. It is hypocritical for them to pretend they are the only group affected by Prop. 8.”
For or Against Prop. 8 Type of Group What Do They Want? What They’re Saying
Over 40 Bar Associations
Against “Because I’m a lawyer!” Big money to be made on gay pre-nups and divorce filings “Proposition 8 would shatter existing principles of equal protection and fundamental rights, as well as the judicial branch’s role as final arbiter of these constitutional guarantees. It constitutes a revision of the Constitution. As such, it may not be enacted by a simple majority of the voters.”
American Center for Law & Justice
For Pat Robertson’s made-up law group Who needs laws when you have The Bible? “Rather than restricting and diminishing a pre-exisiting, clearly expressed constitutional provision, Proposition 8 simply seeks simply seeks to express a pre-existing constitutional definition in no uncertain terms.”
Reform Jewish Movement
Against Mensch’s Proving that religious freedom extends to faiths that support gay marriage. “We recognize, as well, that the religious beliefs of people who oppose same-sex marriages should be respected; no clergy member or house of worship should ever be forced, under law, to sanctify a religious wedding that goes against his or her religious tenets. And those religious institutions and clergy that wish to welcome and affirm same-sex unions must also be respected and protected.”
Kingdom of Heaven
For Crazy people. Wants to out Phelps Fred Phelps. “If gay and lesbians do not change their sexual behavior to natural ways thai [sic]
the Almighty Eternal Creator created between one man and one woman, they will
lose their eternal life!”
On:           Jan 19, 2009
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    • bryce

      is this information public?
      can we get a link on this post to see full text for the full list of petitions?

      Jan 19, 2009 at 10:57 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Darth Paul

      Pretty random selection.

      Jan 19, 2009 at 11:00 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Japhy Grant

      @bryce: Well, if it were that easy, we would have just linked you. Here is the list of all the filed briefs and they are available through the Supreme Court, but not in an easy form, so far as we can tell:


      Jan 19, 2009 at 11:12 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • petted

      It looks like they don’t have all of the amicus briefs online yet – not surprising cause there are a lot of them. However a lot of these groups are likely to have copies of their briefs available on their own respective sites for example the Family Research Council can be found @ http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=CB09A01

      Jan 19, 2009 at 2:11 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • JesusofAudacity

      This is wack! Like, watever.

      Jan 19, 2009 at 2:25 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • ChristopherJ

      haha, they want to “outPhelps” Fred Phelps… hooo boy

      Jan 19, 2009 at 4:45 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • Bob Conti

      Two of these briefs in support of Prop 8 were written by genuine loonies. The “crazy people” brief cited was written by some guy Rev. Messiah of the Church of the Messiah. The vocal advocate of the male minority was written by the nut who opposed the SF womens’ motorcycle club from trademarking “Dykes on Bikes.” He soundly lost on that one. Yeah, the for side pretty much drew from the world of the wierd.

      Jan 19, 2009 at 5:57 pm · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • DonG90806

      If you want to read the actual briefs, they can be found at:


      Not all of the amicus briefs are online yet because there are so many of them, but they should be available in the next several days. In the meantime, there are about a dozen currently available.

      Jan 20, 2009 at 2:07 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·
    • LeaderofMen

      It’s just hilarious that that loony named Fred Phelps knows whether I’m going to lose my soul.

      Here’s some info for Fred: I don’t have a soul to lose. He made that sh*t up to cause emotional harm to those who are too stupid to know otherwise.

      Jan 22, 2009 at 10:52 am · @ReplyReply to this comment ·

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