Many social conservatives have come out against gay marriage, Steven N. Goings insists they’re doing themselves a disfavor. Rather than shunning gays, he writes, religious types need to appreciate queer courage and make room in the congregations for same-sex lovers.
Have you ever stopped to consider the moral courage it takes for gays and lesbians to refuse to let their pariah social status push them into lives of debauchery, shame and self-destruction in the face of religious and social forces that seek to exile them to the underbelly of society? The desire of same-sex couples to be included in the institution of marriage is not an assault on family values; it is an embrace of those values.
Social structures and forms change, but the spirit of the law forever bends towards love, charity and mercy. Religious conservatives need to rethink their strategy of shutting the gay community out of the very institutions–family, church, and marriage–that bring all communities into closer alignment with God’s will.
By outright rejecting out gays, says Goings, the right rejects an “opportunity to ease the heavy burden of social stigma.” Embracing the lavender set gives the right a chance to spread their word, rather than “hoard” it from the homos.
[On The Image: This painting depicts Sts. Sergius and Bacchus, who were, according to some, gay lovers. They were executed for refusing to attend sacrifices in honor of Jupiter.]
someone
Steven N. Goings is a nobody from the homo capital of the world, San Francisco. Let me guess, he’s gay? I wonder where he gets the balls to tell ME how to think. In my mind and millions of others, homosexuality will ALWAYS BE AN ABOMINATION. WE WILL NEVER ACCEPT HOMOS AS EQUAL. WE WILL ALWAYS VIEW HOMOS AS DISGUSTING AND FILTHY. I don’t see homos coming out of the closet as having “moral courage.” I see it as extreme arrogance and a shout for attention. Steven N. Nobody and people like him will never change my opinion. Speaking of arrogant, the fact that you people think you can change someone’s mind about your filth is the height of arrogance.
Alan down in Florida
So much bile so early in the morning. Someone is not a happy person. Pity that Someone will be left behind at the Rapture because of that pesky Golden Rule – what is it again, ah yes, DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. It’s a shame Someone wields his false faith as a weapon against others who live their lives in a truly Christ-like manner.
Smokey Martini
“I see it as extreme arrogance and a shout for attention. ”
Says the loonie who posts on a gay blog…
It’s official: No more attention for you!
crazylove
I am for gay marriage and people of faith, but I don’t like the tone of the article because it says that people who aren’t like me are the underbelly. That’s offensive too. There is a happy medium that says live as you want so long as it doesn’t hurt others. My stable isn’t another persons stable.
I am not fighting for my right to live my life the way I want to judge others in this way. The moral tone of the article is wrong.
I agree with its idea that the religious who are against gays and marriage (not all are by the way) should realize a) the sections of the bible they site don’t say what they claim the passages say and b) that anyone wanting to survive the arrows and slings and stones tossed at them has moral courage. Finally, I would also have engaged the reader on the science that suggestions sexual orientation is immutable. If it is, then like race, as the Baptist preacher mentioned in his article on the subject, Christians will eventually have to address this in non-homophobic absolutist ways:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-24-king-marriage_x.htm
This is why the immutability factor matters. Like with race and gender, you will get some who will still preach hate, but the overall effect over time is that homosexuality, if immutable, becomes a lot more harder to argue against doctrinally under Christian doctrines.
crazylove
Oppps I provided the wrong link:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2006/11/when_religion_l.html
CHURCHILL-Y
Mr. Goings is a 100% correct, there are no more courageous people than out Gay couples. To put out with daily rejection from all sides for being together takes more than moral courage it takes real love, and isn’t that what religion really should be about?
As for Sts. Sergius and Bacchus, all I have to say is……Stupid them! they became martyrs for what? A religion that persecutes people like them.
The authentic Roman religions were more Gay friendly and who knows perhaps if people like them had not embrace it, Christianity would have never spread and taken over the Western World.
Catholic mass or sacrifices in honor of Jupiter, no brainier to me(as long as they were animal sacrifices or perhaps terrorists sacrifices):-).
ted
I love how “Someone” is too much a wimp to even post under his name. FAIL.
Jimmy
It does hurt to read “Someone” comments. But I shall embrace it and become stronger for it. It’s a no-brainer when you have to read that type of evil. Have the “moral courage” to keep fighting for what is good!
osocubano
Where does “Someone” get the idea we care what IT thinks?
tina
HI.IAM MARRIED AND KIND TO EVERYBODY BUT IAM SORRY THE LIBERALS ARE PUSHING TO FAR!!I DONT HANG OUT WITH GAYS.IVE WORKED IN THE BEAUTY FIELD AND ALL ARE FLAMBOUANT,NEED ALOT OF ATTENTION,AND MOST WHERE ALL QUEERS.WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH EVERYONE ,EVEN STRAIGHT GUYS.ITS JUST PERVERSION LEGALLY.AND TO THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A NORMAL ADOPTED CHILD THAT CAN FUNCTION IN THE WORLD ,PLEASE USE A BRAIN CELL.QUESTION WOULD YOU WANT THEM NEXT TO YOUR SON IN IRAQ???OR EXCUSE ME THEY DONT DO THAT.LEAVE IT OUT OF SCHOOL AND CHURCH.
Puddy Katz
Who’s pointing the crazies to this site?
crazylove
Well- the right wing organizations often monitor sites like this to get out their talking points. The only thing that surprises me is how naive we can be about this. If you check out the Mormon excuse for why they did some of the things they did- including lying- they cite blogs assuming most people will never check out what they are saying. This is the right wing in this country. A bunch of homegrown terrorists. It will sadly probably get worse for the next few years because they are losing their grip on power and the Christian warriors have been told for 30 years that they are the natural majority. See Jesus Camp.
Snoodle
I see all the nutjobs are out today…
chuck
Someone is just a no one. It is his hatred, bigotry and discrimination that is disgusting and filthy.
Vee
What’s that about stones and glass houses?
If the religious right wants to wave around manufactured press releases and get their 15 dodgy minutes of paid hysteria on the “news”, I think they should first have a good look at the homophobic, abusive vitriol their own side puts on line:
Isn’t there a proverb about stones and glass houses?
Vee
oops – here’s the URL for No. 15 –
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/3aad69ec69817c27