The Vatican must think the world got amnesia. First came Pope Benedict XVI’s reiteration that he and his peers don’t approve of gay marriage. And now the Catholic Church issued a statement reminded us all that the priesthood has a “no gays allowed” policy. Unless they’re celibate, which is an idiotic clause. “Candidates who show a homosexual tendency will not be allowed into the priesthood unless they can demonstrate that they have been able to remain chaste for at least three years.” [Pink News]
Reminder II.
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Maharajah
I am a bit unsure about proper Catholic law – but aren’t ALL priests vowed to celibacy? If a priest is heterosexual has not been celibate within the past 3 years – is he allowed to keep his position within the church? If so, then there will be cause for litigation if it is properly shown that discrimination is a common practice…
M Shane
Maharajah: While my Irish family was steeped in the multiplicity of laws and superstitions in the the Catholic Church, I believe that this is a prejudicial demand aimed not at people who are already priests but candidates for taking religious orders. It’s kind of interesting, in fact that one of the only ways a marriage can be annulled is if a married couple going into religious orders.
Actually even jerking off (Onanism) is a sin. This is just truly aimed at placing a rigid and nasty, prejudicial inhibition against gay people which I suspect carries the suspision that gay people have less control than heterosexuals and have to do more to prove their steadfast celibacy by doing nothing (but pussy ) with men for three years. They are all extremely nutsa about sex. You can imagine why catholics hardly get a chance to figure out how to do it at all!
M Shane
sorry wording there is confusing; they can’t have sex except with women for three years before to establish candidacy
Steve
It’s simple, really. Priests never get any sexual release. They aren’t even allowed to masturbate. So they dream about sex and have nocturnal emissions. Then they feel guilty about their dreams, so they think about them all day. Some days they can’t think about anything else. Talk about filthy minds. The lack of any actual experience makes their imaginations (and their dreams) even more sordid.
They imagine gay people as some horrible monsters, not because of any actual knowledge, but because they are feeling guilty for their own gay wet dreams. It must not be the priests fault, because God wouldn’t let him have such a dream. But he has to blame someone, so he externalizes the blame. It must be the fault of that man in the dream who tied the priest up and forced the priest to fuck him. It follows logically (to the priest, anyway) that all gay men are horrible criminals who will rape any man at any opportunity.
With variations, this sort or process leads to some profoundly sick men in the leadership of the church.
The real problem is the vow of chastity. Let priests marry, and after a generation or two you would see more straight men and less mental illness in the clergy. The vow of chastity was not imposed by Jesus, or even in early centuries. It was imposed in the 12th century, if I recall correctly, because the then-pope didn’t want to have to pay widows pensions.
miKEM
Exactly how does one demonstrate that they have been chaste for three years? Have they come up with a litmus test for that?…pee in the cup? what?!
Maharajah
Thanks guys – especially Shane. Haha, the reason why this was very intersting to me, is that recently I have been watching HollyOaks which is following a similar story – a priest that falls in love with a guy, and then chooses (as of current) to uphold his vows over his lovelife.
Andy
Steve (no. 4): “The real problem is the vow of chastity.” Actually, the real problem is the idiotic superstition called religion. There is absolutely no reason to believe in any of it — would-be gay priests should just get a grip on themselves and turn to a more worthy profession.
Peter Pan
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Charley
Mommie, why did god give Catholic priests balls ?
foofyjim
Charley:
So the choir and alter boys have something to suck on.
M Shane
Maharajah: sounds like the poor guy(priest) never did get a chance to find out what he was missing. Aristotle said that by abstaining you became moderate and by being moderate you learned to abstain?? ? My view of this is is that virtue is it’s own punishment.
While Steve’s idea is interesting, you have to remember that the Catholic Church could do what ever they wanted back in 1200AD. They told kings what to do.
There is an ancient “philosophical” belief system behind Catholicism, and that’s why it’s not liable to change. it’s not related to any Bible or cornball ideas(?) The belief comes from Aristotle> Thomas Aquinas that (1)everything has a purpose. (but not everything is an end in itself) (2) so sex is only for procreation-babies. Which means that you can’t even have the random fuck if you’re married. even jerking of is wasting holy cum..
no blow jobs or eating out.
That’s why so many horny people had such huge families(bad luck!) even if they couldn’t afford them. No birth control, abortions, rubbers.; certainly no S&M.
I knew that I was just too horny a kid to ever imagine the kind of crazed life I would live. As it was I had to confess wet dreams and masturbation constantly.
Maharajah
Shane – please, if this is to personal, please forgive me – and you are not obligted to answer, but do you still hold you Catholic values in high regard? I mean, for me it is not very difficult to keep my religious views and life active with other aspects of my being, but how did it progress for you? Are you at odds, at times between your religious past (and a culture that finds your homosexulaity wrong) and your sexuality? Once again, if it is to personal, I appologize.
Jaroslaw
actually, being celibate outside of marriage and no j/o applies to everyone Catholic, not just the priests IF you’re going to follow Catholic teaching…..