House Majority Whip James Clyburn, the Democrat from South Carolina, voted for health care reform on Sunday. He is a black man. His office owns a fax machine. Which means of course some assholes started sending in images of a noose. Does this count as evidence that opponents to health care reform are bigots?
At the very least, tell us Rep. Barney Frank’s fax machine was busy all night printing out pages of fisting scenes, and Tammy Baldwin ran out of paper with all the “DAMN YOU, DYKE!” graffiti coming in.
Scott
I just don’t understand this as an onlooker from another country. Why would you not want everyone in your country to have health care? I’ve experienced two-tier, one-tier and no health care and let me tell you it is a great feeling to know that if you’re sick, you may go and get help with whatever condition you may have.
I wonder if these people who are so against this if someone they loved who didn’t have health care or had a pre-existing condition were denied health care and couldn’t get the care they needed because they didn’t have the $50,000 or $10,000 to help them get better.
I think people fail to realize that we are all responsible for one another. We are all part of the greater community and I sincerely wish that this would not be happening to you guys.
delurker
@Scott: “I think people fail to realize that we are all responsible for one another. We are all part of the greater community…”
It’s simple. The people who are against this don’t believe this.
Also these people philosophically believe that any time working poor, needy or sick people get anything, it’s socialism and wealth redistribution. They are also serfs of their corporate masters. They don’t make the big bucks; your average teabag protester is middle class. But they will fight like hell for the economic “betters” to no be taxed at the marginal tax rate.
delurker again
@Scott: “I think people fail to realize that we are all responsible for one another. We are all part of the greater community…”
It’s simple. The people who are against this don’t believe this.
Also these people philosophically believe that any time working poor, needy or sick people get anything, it’s socialism and wealth redistribution. They are also serfs of their corporate masters. They don’t make the big bucks; your average teabag protester is middle class. But they will fight like hell for the economic “betters” to no be taxed at the marginal tax rate.
Mike L.
@Scott: Dude you’re talking about ppl who were caught mocking an elderly man who had parkinsons sitting on the ground with a sign in support of the bill. One of the guys even threw money at him. These ppl are all made up of either nihilists evangelicals (believe the wold will end soon and work for disrubting things with other countries to start the las big war i.e. bush, and who believe the gov should let everyone to their luck, except for the gov should be run by xtians and bibles should be shoved down everyone’s throat), corporation ppl who feel others should just die than give a little more from their share for health care for all, or racist/bigots/homophobes who are pissed AS HELL there is a black man in office.
El Brucio
@Scott: Yeah, I’m from Canada and I’m not really sure what’s going own down there either.
As far as I can tell it’s mostly weird political spin and dogma. If your taxes might go up due to helping the less fortunate it’s bad because it has to be pure communism or facism. If your taxes might go up due to starting wars with other countries or giving subsidies to big business, it’s FREEDOM.
Scott
@El Brucio:
I just don’t get it I lived in Alberta which is very right wing (in terms of Canadian values) and Ontario. When I moved back to Ontario I didn’t have a job and Alberta is two-tier so it covers a doctors visit and that is all so for the first 3 months I was back in Ontario I had essentially no health care and honestly it scared me to even get a cold – which I did.
I can’t fathom not wanting to help someone in my country who needed help and it scares me that the world’s super power is that country who frowns upon helping there fellow countrymen and woman.
I’m not saying Canadian health care is perfect, it is far from that but what I am saying is that it is disappointing to see such a huge number of people not wanting to help people who genuinely need it.
stt
Oh jesus buck up and stop complaining. Yes they are bigots but the intense reaction and want of apologies is weak and ineffectual. Get over it.
Steve
@Scott, @Mike, @El Brucio,
What is happening is that a significant fraction of people are so stupid that they are willing to vote against their own self interests. The right-wing Republican machine is controlled by a small number of very wealthy people, who own the TV, Radio, and Newspapers. They also mostly own the banks and insurance companies. They figured out several decades ago that, if you repeat a lie enough times, the stupid people will believe it.
We have entertainers like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh on a TV channel that claims to be “fair and balanced” and “news”, every night, spouting the same hateful lies over and over. Enough people believe it to keep the right-wingers in power, or at least to stymie the opposition. I think they are getting desperate now, though, since they have recently started advocating violence.
ewe
I am not worried. Nancy Pelosi will tear the enemys heart out of their chest and then run them over with a freight train.
Taylor Siluwé
Disgruntled McCain/Palin supporters have no shame.
If President Obama cut every American a check for 10grand, they’d vehemently protest with barely literate signs and all the class of Westboro Baptist Church funeral demonstration.
Only in America.
reason
Yes, I may not see eye to eye with Nancy on some issues though it’s clear that she is a tough smart women. She may go down as the most powerful and adroit speaker in history.