Rick Warren, the anti-gay pastor who just figured out how to use his Flip cam, sounds a bit like Nicholas Cage these days; gone broke and begging for cash.
Warren’s Saddleback Church is hurting — badly! — for cash. Donations are down, and Warren finds his org $900,000 short of breaking even for 2009. “THIS IS AN URGENT LETTER unlike any I’ve written in 30 years. Please read all of it and get back to me in the next 48 hours,” Warren writes congregants. Except he won’t share explicit financial details of the church, so it’s hard to tell whether $900k is a pittance to Saddleback, or represents a gaping hole in their books.
But with donations down to most organizations across the board in this economy, and with Warren’s clear signs of desperation, we’re going to assume Warren is in bad need of a fix. Or, you know, Warren is just being greedy, and begging supporters to give him their last few pennies before the clock strikes midnight.
terrwill
Can we get him to climb up a tower like Oral Roberts did
once upon a time and threaten to kill himself if he doesn’t
reach his goal??????? pretty pleeeeeze………..
David
You must give NOW!… otherwise, he will not be able to fuel his private jet.
Fraud.
RomanHans
It’s already starting to look like a great new year, isn’t it?
terrwill
Maybe his new friends in uganda can chip in…………
terrwill
>>>>>>>>> NEWS FLASH: Upon news of Prick Warren’s
financial distress Hostess Bakery’s stock immediatley
fell 45% Little Debbie stockholders are nervousley surveying
the situation……………………
Flex
Half of the money will line his pockets. The other half will fund the Perry v. Schwarzenegger trial, the federal challenge to proposition 8. Let’s put this bigot bastard out of business!
Tom
IF he is telling the truth and I doubt it, maybe it’s karma for his despicable actions. If he is in distress, it’s nice end of the year news.
terrwill
No. 7 · Tom: Thats what I call a win-win situation!!!! :}
schlukitz
Wow. At the rate things are going financially for Prick Warren, he might even have to go on a diet!
Like the old lady said when she peed in the ocean “Every little bit helps.”
romeo
Yeah, look at that waistline. Diabetes and heart attacks and you name it ready to happen, if it hasn’t already. Isn’t it amazing how all these people who live to tell other people what to do, have no control over themselves. That’s the secret. Amazing how America loves losers. Everybody wants to follow someone that’s just like themselves, rather than someone who’s (ahem) smarter and might be able to actually solve problems.
As for his cash. He’s personally very wealthy; he just doesn’t want to dip into his own principal. So he’ll get old ladies to send in their social security checks. Total douchebag.
Richard
This is why as a gay christian, I left my money grabbing, fag bashing church for many years. I am pleased to say now I worship in a church community as diverse as we all are. Warren and many like him will find thier bashing base will continue to erode and churchs who reach out for acceptance of everyone as did Jesus Christ, will find support!
Lukas P.
Evil, sloppy, hateful and fat–poor Rick Warren’s gonna go DOWN, in flames that is. Like so many preachers before him.
Crying poormouth when you’re personally as well off as he is, that’s just bad form. Preaching self-control when you’re morbidly obese, that’s tacky. Rick — you ever hear St Paul talk about crucifyin’ the flesh!?! Tried saying no yet?
Let’s see if his desperate cry for help went heeded or not. Those W8 Watcher memberships aren’t free, y’know?
TheSecond
Our Creators love does not come from a business model.
Lukas P.
To SECOND (#13): Which creators do you refer to?
* Mom and Dad?
* Mom and Anonymous Sperm Donor Dude? or
* Dad and Paid Gestational Surrogate Lady?
Kindly specify! P.s. @ Happy New Year
TheSecond
Lukas, do not deny every sense that is around you my friend as that of Our Creators love for you.
Just like there is only one path to Your Creator, Your Creator only has one path to YOU.
TheSecond
Lukas,
Do not deny every sense that is around you my friend as that of Our Creators love for you.
Just like there is only one path to Your Creator, Your Creator only has one path to YOU.
Lukas P.
SECOND: My last try to make sense of your blather.
Who are these Creators who you speak about in the PLURAL.
Are they the PLURAL ones referred to in Genesis who made humans?
Maybe I can’t understand your English very well. Perhaps you can learn about the mysterious God-fearing APOSTROPHE on Wikipedia?
TheSecond
Lukas,
Forgiveness is that point which strikes balance between men. If you forgive my absence of an apostrophe, I shall forgive your overt attempt to chastise me because of it.
You are a shining example that man still has access to the tree of knowledge of good.
Lukas P.
SECOND: Yes, good luck to you and the Creators who built and programmed you. Perhaps they can get the bugs out in 2010 so it will feel like I’m conversing with a sentient, real human being. Current program creates formulaic, random output that cannot be parsed as conversation.
Lycka till!
TheSecond
Lukas,
Point well documented. Thank you.
If you bought a bottle of Tide because they told you it would clean your clothes, then took it home and used it and it happened that your clothes actually came out dirtier, why would you buy another bottle of Tide?
The end result of anything good is good. The end result of anything not good is desperate, a code word for Hypocrite.
For everyone who has been waiting for the second coming, let it be known that this is the kick-off and Mr. Warren, who is a deceiver of men in every respect, just fired the starting pistol. What most need to know is that The Final Judgement doesn’t come from the clouds in the physical sense, it starts with US and it has started.
ps. this is not a drill
schlukitz
No. 19 · Lukas P.
Is there no end to the lunatics like TheScond who manage to find their way to this site?
Lukas P.
@Schlukitz: lol, yep! What’s worse is that they multiply & breed. They really do come across as robotic, mechanical beings without the ability to engage in the give & take of human conversations. Lousy at sex too, for same reason!
You might call them people with autism; I will call them annoying and desperate!
Meanwhile Pastor Rick rakes in the dough from his unsuspecting followers. Happy New Year, anyway!
TheSecond
What is lunacy? That I spread a message of love and forgiveness, or that I do it in a forum and community which bathes in judgement?
schlukitz
No. 23 · TheSecond
I do it in a forum and community which bathes in judgement?
My my! You sure do was eloquent, girlfriend.
Whatever you are “spreading”, hasten Jason and bring the basin.
Plop. Plop.
Too late. Bring the mop!
schlukitz
No. 22 · Lukas P.
And a Happy New Year to you and yours as well.
TheSecond
Your ignorance if forgiven my brother – or sister, like dust from the bottom of my shoe.
schlukitz
Typo: “was” should read “wax”.
Lukas P.
@SCHLUCKITZ (24 etc.). Nicely put. Sorry to be gone so long but I had to bathe in “judgement,” because “Obsession” is so damn 80s and “Envy” a little heavy on the floral.
I’m sure SECOND is programmed with thousands of other trite biblicisms and lofty platitudes, but I’ve had my fill of the ReligionBot2009, “Available in fine stores and bomb shelters everywhere.” !
TheSecond
I left the vinegar at home trust me, honey is the texture to what I am saying my brothers. I say bathes in Judgement because please show me another of God’s colors which is ruled by Judgement more so than yours?
I know of none, and I’m here to tell you and everyone else that the time for all of that is over. Dig deep and understand Your Creator loves you. Period. You have gifts which have been given to you which benefit all of us equally, and attacking me isn’t it.
You are both very articulate, but sadly its used to tear down, judge, or defend something that doesn’t need defending. I am not anyone’s enemy.
God Loves You. That’s it my friends.
terrwill
Wow, all this Thesecond posts look like the old Abbot and Costello routine! Who IS on second??? : P
Least we started off the new year with some good news, Prick Warren is goin’ broke, and Rush Windbag, (that selfhating fat fag) is continuing his Oxycotin dancin’………….
schlukitz
No. 30 · terrwill
Dig deep she said. The mantra of the religious nuts as they pass the collection plates beneath our noses…and laugh all the bank. lol
Least we started off the new year with some good news, Prick Warren is goin’ broke, and Rush Windbag, (that selfhating fat fag) is continuing his Oxycotin dancin’………….
God works in mysterious ways.
I make the joke. Huh. Huh. Huh. ;P
romeo
@ TheSecond, I understand yours, and so many others, need to interpret God’s will. However, God is silent. He does not speak to me. He does not speak to you. He did not speak to the prophets of old. We can not intuit God’s will. We do not know him. We cannot know him. We cannot even call God “Him.” What need would God have for gender? God does not have to survive in a particular place or propagate a species.
I understand your wanting to know God and own God’s knowledge and interpret God’s judgement.
But God is silent. If God were not silent, then this would be a very different world. We cannot not even be sure God is there.
TheSecond, you do no know God.
romeo
Sorry about the typos. Having trouble with my new laptop.
schlukitz
No. 33 · romeo
TheSecond, you do not know God.
Succinctly put and right on the money, Romeo.
How fucking rude of people like TheSecond to profess an intimate knowledge and understanding of a vacuous deity that hides from from view and remains silent on the critical issues of mankind.
Not only do I personally resent his trying to pull the wool over our eyes, I also resent his implication that we are his friends.
He takes great liberty with us.
TheSecond
I don’t claim to know God. But I will claim to know what God is not, and also what God does not do, and that’s have a need for anyone like Rick Warren to use God to call for money, thereby using God’s system against itself. That’s hypocrisy by its very definition.
I have no need to know God, because I know, as does everyone else with a pulse, that God knows ME.
The vase has no need to know the flowers inside it, that’s not its purpose, its purpose is to hold the flowers, thereby gaining beauty through the connection.
Schlukitz, my apologies if I have offended you by calling you a friend.
Lukas P.
@Schlukitz & @Romeo: You’re arguing with a pre-programmed SECOND GODBOT that obeys a higher, unseen, unknowable power. It does not have human feelings or need to bathe, eat, have sex, or play fair. It most certainly cannot engage in actual conversation. Let’s not distract it from its batch-run sermons!
P.s. Any news on how Rick Warren is withstanding his new budgetary diet?
TheSecond
Uh, Mr. Warren will be giving what he has titled as ‘The Miracle’ address on Sunday to his congregation.
That fucking burns me alive.
1equalityUSA
Dear The Second, I liked your vase comparison. You are on the right track spiritually with that mindset. Warren will be seen for the fake that he is too, so don’t let his begging the flock for cash burn you up. This world and the money in it are temporary and insignificant. The gay community is hurting because of men such as saddle-back-church-mr-prop-8-no-no-I-didn’t-mean-that-man. Take care, brother.
Lukas P.
Second, thank you for the update and show of human-like emotion. I apologize for having been strident earlier.
TheSecond
Forgiveness all around. We’re all human…
: )
Enjoy the day
terrwill
No. 33 · romeo: I freakin HATE the keyboards on slaptops! I can type ona desktop keyboard faster than I can speak, on a slaptop, its like first day with my new fingers every day!!
terrwill
Did TheSecond just say “fucking”???? after seeing the virtual rainbows flowing from your keyboards prior, wasn’t expecting that one!
schlukitz
Second, I too would like to thank you for the clarification of your comments and letting us know where you stand with respect to Rick Warren. I am afraid that we all got the wrong picture of you.
I join with Equality in saying that I liked your vase comparison. It was eloquently stated.
I too would like to rein in my former harsh comments. Equality hit the nail squarely on the head when she said hat the gay community is hurting because of men such as saddle-back-church-mr-prop-8-no-no-I-didn’t-mean-that-man.
I am afraid that people like him have made all of us a tad edgy and and suspect of anyone that we perceive not to be our friends, ergo no apology is necessary on your behalf for having called me a friend.
schlukitz
No. 41 · terrwill
I can relate to that. 🙂
For the past three or four years now, I have been a MacBookPro convert. Despite the fact that I still own a Windows-based desktop, I rarely go on it anymore, except to perform updates now and then.
While I love my Mac, laptop keyboards admittedly do leave much to be desired and I find that my typing really suffers when I am reduced to having to use it while while traveling, etc.
I solved that problem with the addition of a new Apple external keyboard and an Apple HD 24″ Monitor and now it feels like I am on a desktop for all intents and purposes. 🙂
naghanenu
Rick Warren has made about USD2.4 Million due to his donation request.
Food For Thought??
Lukas P.
@NAGHANENU — No, silly, it’s food for Rick!
;-p The makers of toaster pastries will now ramp up production awaiting his next order of delectable frosted treats. Warren will deliver his “Miracle Sermon” Sunday via jumbotron, per USA Today et al. Disaster has been averted…
Mega-church preachers have been playing the desperate card for decades, meaning people donate to their supersize Pastors’ cyberchapels instead of neighborhood churches.
All in the name of charity and spreading religious tolerance and the virtues of clean livin’! So much for keeping our cash in our community, eh?
romeo
@ Terrwill #41: The laptop keyboard has a lighter touch than my PC, so actually, once I get used to it, I may be able to type faster on this Dell. I’ll just have to proofread more carefully before I hit submit.
One thing though, I discovered that my cat can post now. Observe!
lemliiluieseah]llajmmeiegfalejnnnless,,clseiinnlwaw385383ladn
I’d translate, but it’s full of profanity. She’s pissed I won’t let her out now that she’s figured out how to jump over the back fence. I keep telling her the streets of L.A. are no place for a high-class girl like her. LOL
As for Warren, the yahoo main page has a story about him collecting 2.4 million. Like I said earlier, these guys are good at getting old ladies to send in their social security checks so they can “continue God’s work.” Which we can take to mean screwing old ladies out of their social security checks.
But you know, “a fool and her money…”
1EqualityUSA
#46 brilliantly hilarious
schlukitz
No. 45 · naghanenu
Rick Warren has made about USD2.4 Million due to his donation request.
You say it like it is a good thing?
schlukitz
No. 47 · romeo
Which we can take to mean screwing old ladies out of their social security checks.
There oughta be a law! Prick Warren is nothing but a male whore who is prostituting himself in the name of God.
I loved your comment about your cat, that the streets of L.A. are no place for a high=-class girl like her. lol
schlukitz
No. 48 · 1EqualityUSA
Hilarious, yes. But, right on the money. ;P
1EqualityUSA
Naghanenu, are you Maggie Gallagher, writing under a pseudonym? Every time I broach the subject, 4 separate times, you never refute it. Yes or no. Are you Mags?
schlukitz
No. 52 · 1EqualityUSA
Writers of poison pen material almost always prefer to hide behind the cloak of anonymity.
One should never expect “straight” answers from “deviated” people. ;P
schlukitz
No. 52 · 1EqualityUSA
Writers of poison pen material always hide be the cloak of anononimity.
schlukitz
Is there an “echo” in this room?
If someone wants to ape me, at least learn how to spell anonymity correctly.
terrwill
No. 55 · schlukitz: That seems to be going around lately, believe it or not FakeName had same thing happen to him, which let to there being a Fake FakeName………
……………..and I still can not figger out why they can not mimic the touch of a standard keyboard on a slaptop. My touch screen phone actually is easier to touch type on than any slaptop I have ever touched………..
1EqualityUSA
Naghanenu never wrote poison pen stuff.