In response to an official statement released by the Vatican this morning claiming that Pope Francis didn’t specially request a meeting with Kim Davis, the Liberty Counsel has published several images charting their visit along with this press release:
Despite a statement this morning by a Vatican official, the Pope’s own words about conscientious objection being a human right and his private meeting with Kim Davis indicate support for the universal right of conscientious objection, even for government officials. The meeting with Kim Davis was initiated by the Vatican, and the private meeting occurred at the Vatican Embassy in Washington, D.C., on Thursday, September 24. This meeting was a private meeting without any other members of the public present.
On September 23, the meeting for the next day was confirmed by the Vatican official. On the morning of September 24, the meeting was again confirmed with Kim Davis, with instructions that security would arrive for a pickup at 1:15 p.m. Kim and Joe Davis were picked up by security at the hotel in which she and her husband were staying and driven to the Vatican Embassy. Kim and Joe Davis waited for the private meeting with the Pope. There were no other people in the room. This was a private meeting between Pope Francis and Kim and Joe Davis. This was not a meeting with other people in which Kim and Joe Davis were a part, but rather a private meeting with no other people in the room except Vatican security and personnel.
That statement by Reueters (sic) citing a ‘senior Vatican official, who delined to be named,’ is false. There was no line of people before, near, or around Kim Davis. Had Kim Davis been in a line of people or been seen by anyone outside of Vatican personnel, we would not have been able to keep her visit secret. Kim’s face is easily recognizable. When we walk through airports as large as LaGuardia, Philadelpia, and Reagan, people recognize her and give her encouragement. This was a private meeting with no other people except for the Pope and select Vatican personnel
Here’s the Vatican‘s statement from this morning in its entirety:
The brief meeting between Mrs. Kim Davis and Pope Francis at the Apostolic Nunciature in Washington, DC has continued to provoke comments and discussion. In order to contribute to an objective understanding of what transpired I am able to clarify the following points:
Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City. Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Pope’s characteristic kindness and availability. The only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family.
The Pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects.
Pope Francis and #KimDavis https://t.co/q2OIeF5qs7 pic.twitter.com/ZmE0KIQ7UR
— Liberty Counsel (@libertycounsel) October 2, 2015
Vatican sent security team to pick up Kim and Joe Davis from Omni in DC on 9/24 about 1:15 pm to meet Pope Francis pic.twitter.com/3zygb5J3yY
— Liberty Counsel (@libertycounsel) October 2, 2015
#KimDavis & Joe Davis waited in a room at Vatican embassy & took pictures before Pope arrived w/ photographers. pic.twitter.com/gt3UBKz1PB
— Liberty Counsel (@libertycounsel) October 2, 2015
Daken Irrera
isn’t she christian? wtf has to do with bergoglio?
Damian Haywood
Urgh…can we stop giving her attention now?
Jimm Wiedeman
Rich Walczak
I highly doubt she was offered encouragement by the public at the Philadelphia airport I’d be surprised if she wasn’t spit on.
Damon Gonzalez
Please stop writing about her.
Stephane Fournier
My ride for Kim ….
Tim Parker
I don’t believe a word from either bigot.
Sidney Davies
Why are we still giving her attention? She’s trash and needs to be taken out as so.
Cindi Salas Asuncion
What is she gonna say now? The pope lied? And those pictures were proof of what? Do they show Kim and the Pope together? No, the pope isnt in any of the pictures. And a dark picture of a car, is only that – a picture of a car. Give it up, Kim, you pathetic lying attention whore. Nobody’s falling for your bullshit.
John Autore
Anthony Duda
I don’t think the Matty Staver/Kimmy Davis campaign to now discredit the Pope and The Vatican and, in effect, call them liars is a smart move. In fact, it’s about as arrogant as you can get. Probably one of the most disliked and least-respected people in the country right now going up against one of the most-respected in the world? Not a PR scenario I’d like to be on the losing end of. And the photos prove nothing: rosary beads that The Vatican has already said the Pope gives to everyone in line? A picture of a minivan? Head shots of Kim and Jethro sitting in a lobby, maybe just waiting to use a bathroom? Proof of a private audience? I think not.
Clark W Cowles
Any one can snap a couple of pictures. They prove nothing.
Lancome Counter
So she stalked him in the men’s room?!?!
Seann Skelding
Please stop talking about this idiot.
Molly HalfPint Malone
ENUUUFF!!!!!
Benj Curtis
Ok @queerty quit giving her press!
Steve EQ William
No selfies with the Pope? Really?
Manny Apostol
No thanks. I have high blood pressure already.
Ben Ekdahl
This article is disappointing and something along the lines of what I would expect from FOX news. This article is exactly the kind of thing her supporters are hoping people will write to play perfectly in to their narrative.
Phil Briggs
Please quit glorifying her. I’m about to quit following all gay media.
Kim Hanson
Ride the media wave as a fool as long as you can, it’s not going to last much longer, we are all sick of hearing your name.
Raphael Marquez
Brian JC Kneeland
The photos only prove she was in the building!
John Capers
The meeting was arrange by a rouge bishop who been court by NOM, the pope state the meeting does not mean his support for her Cause, she is the only One saying that
Tristan Davis
Nothing like a good ol’ fashioned lying Pope to make you feel even better about organized religion. Pure damage control.
Tim Duperron
She’s a pathetic loser. Stop caring about her.
Scott Mellon
Her husband’s name is seriously Jethro?
John Malin
As I said before, two consenting adult bigots meeting, what would one expect. Now the Vatican wants to downplay it and Davis wants to claim the meeting as a triumph, so what? By a show of hands, how does this change a single thing in the lives of bogots everywhere?
John Garrett
PIG
Brad Olson
Matthew Risch
All of these shitty gay sites only care about Kim Davis and Pat Robertson now. You’re their henchmen now, talking about them 24/7 like their own gd PR firms. Get a GRIP.
Riess Livaudais
I am sooooo sick of this f’ing woman I could scream. Make her go away!
Vincent Martinez
Xzamilio
There seem to be some inconsistencies in both stories, but then again, look at the parties involved. In any case, I loath them both and they only serve to keep LGBT people levels below themselves…
Yeah, we’re all allowed to be “conscientious objectors”… we also put bigoted morons in jail for contempt of court while they STILL collect that good $80,000 a year pay. Ugh, I’m done with these assclowns!!
Mike Halcomb
Good to see her husband wore his goin’ churchin’ outfit. I’m guessing his dress overalls were at the cleaners.
Micheal P Weishampel
Why does she even care what he has to say or if he even supports her she is not Catholic
mdhess
I’m not buying spin by either the Vatican or liberal apologists who want to rehabilitate the Pope’s image after this fiasco. The Catholic Church is the preeminent historical purveyor and driver of hatred and violence (including murder) against our community. We ought not be satisfied that this Pope is any different than any previous purveyor of hate until he issues, in writing, an official apology to the LGBT community on behalf of the Catholic Church and a promise that his Church will not continue to trespass into secular society to perpetuate the denial of our equal treatment in law or condone such trespass by any Christian. The Vatican can put up or shut but I suspect Francis is just a wolf in sheep’s clothing and the usual hate that comes from this Church isn’t going away anytime soon.
James Yeary
Can we just kill the bitch now ??? tired of hearing about her bigoted ass …
Bob Pattinson
The Pope was in the US to lend his authority to the so-called “Festival of Families” at Philadelphia which – if the comment on EWTN was anything to go by – was pointedly anti-gay marriage. So Pope Frank’s secret meeting with Kim Davis would have been entirely appropriate. There is little doubt that he encouraged this felon with the morals of a sewer rat to believe that, so long as she has an imaginary friend, she is above the law and morally superior to gay men and women whom she can deny the right to marry because she disapproves of who they love. It’s outrageous behaviour on the part of the Pope.
Brian Morris
I’d like to know how all of you that say the Pope is lying know this for a fact? You know him personally that he told you or you know someone at the Vatican that told you this? And why are we still giving this woman any attention at all? For fucks sakes. Drop it already.
Scott McIntosh
Oh it’s such fun, watching 2 sets of bigots fighting like rats in a sack. As Oscar Wilde once said ‘It would take a heart of stone not to laugh’
Toni Kahwage
The Pope and Kim, Devil sent.
Alex Banx
who cares? like really?
John Andrew K. Carver
I “almost” feel sorry for the bitch, when she finally realizes that she is being used she’s gonna fall hard. And I don’t mean being used by God, for for right wing political propaganda.
Damon Robbins
Paul Matwiow
Either they didmeet or they didn’t – As log as it’s kept confused the pope can play both sides of the fence – its the best position for the Vatican
Glenn Longre
Stop posting stuff about this woman-the more you post the more she feels she is getting attention….I am so over hearing her name.
jag4313
One thing America is good at… stop discussing the subject (Kim Davis) and the subject disappears.
Dennis Maloney Jr.
When is this fat bitches, 15 minutes going to be up. It’s boring me.
Michael Robbie Halliwell
Eww she just ruined selfies
Curtis James Larade
A selfie for the self-centered.
Nick Marriott
i ONLY want to see that bitch DIE!……call me old fashioned!
Jaime Enrique Sibauste
Is that the picture of her meeting the Pope?
John Wadsworth
OK the photos are selfies. Why not show the whole room if they were alone. Also, when does a Evangelical Christian seek out and foster a relation with a Catholic? Aren’t they heathens and enemies? OK lets move on now. The Pope is gone, and so should Kim.
Dakotahgeo
I NEVER trusted Msssssss. Kimmy and I have very little respect for el Papa now! Take your pick!
Sweetie Pie
When it comes to gay marriage both Kim and Francisco are irrelevant…it is a done deal
Get over it people
Tammie Edgerton
The Pope did not seek her out. She was picked by Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano. The Pope did not even know he was meeting her and her 4th husband. The Vatican said they were blindsided. This is how they play. Lies and ambushes. The day before he met with a gay couple he knew he was meeting with. She is in this for the attention it bring her.
Jay A. Scaramazzo
Sheryl Mcallister
Wonder why it is the Other people who had audience like his old student was able to get a picture with the Pope. But none for media seeker. I think the bullshit flag should be thrown down on this.
Alfredo
On FB, I have erased all posts relating to Kim Davis. And by the way: it’s a Pope’s duty to meet with as many people as want to meet him. I believe his side, not hers, since she represents the 666 Republican Party,which has no morals, conscience or love for anyone except itself.
Dakotahgeo
@Alfredo: THANK YOU!!!
Bad Ass Biker
@Riess Livaudais: Make her do her fucking job.
TomOH
I am so sick of seeing her fucking ugly ass troll face.
Dakotahgeo
The least Pope Francis could do is make the ugly broad walk to Rome or New York
Dakotahgeo
The least Pope Francis could do is make the ugly broad walk to Rome or New York.
Stefano Gant
This group of bigots are so desperately seeking limelights.
David Mack
and U should see me waiting to go to the DUNGEON to Meat…and the Car that is to pick me up….Oh wait that didn’t happen, Just like that FAT PIGS Meeting NEVER Happen…LIES LIES LIES…Pics say otherwise…and there R NONE ! ! !
Richard
The comments about conscientious objectors was not made by the Pope to Kim Davis. He did not meet with her in private. The comments are from an NBC reporter who interviewed Pope Francis on the plane after his U.S. visit. The Pope stated that conscientious objection was a human right but, he said that when your objections infringe on another’s rights or are harmful or bullying (these are my words as I don’t fully remember verbatim – but this was his statement) then your objections are not helpful in any way. He made it clear that people need to live together in peace and tolerance.
I don’t know how the nonsense about the private meetings, the car picking her up, and all that rot even got started. But I do know it changed some people’s opinions of the Pope from very positive to very negative. He does not promote intolerance. The Church will change, perhaps in the distant future, but Pope Francis has made significant strides within the Catholic organization, especially by continuing the church’s belief in science. No other sect of Christianity would even utter such a statement.
woodin
Attention and media space on Davis should stop until she’s fired or quits her job.
Davis and certainly her attorney are manipulating the issue. Her attorney was recently exposed for planting pictures of pro pro-Davis rallies that had nothing to do with Davis or the marriage equality issue. Why do you think the Pope followed up with an clarification of his meeting with Davis. The Pope didn’the have to but he saw her manipulation first hand and shut it down.
Giancarlo85
@Richard: “He does not promote intolerance.”
Yet I have posted multiple sources showing how he does.
Tony Chaplinski
let this just go away, please. Her 15 minutes of fame were used up a long long time ago
Ted Tufares
sick of seeing her…sick of hearing about her.
Bisexual-Transwoman
@Damian Haywood: Exactly.
Kieran
Kim Davis is about as “Christian” as King Henry VIII. He had 8 wives and she has 4 husbands. What a joke.
SteveDenver
Should have sent a garbage truck.
BTW: her extremist religious sect believes Catholicism is “The Great Whore of the Revelation.”
Rosalynn D'Angela
this crap has been circulating long enough time to change the channel.
Don Hanover
she is still a dirt bag hag
captainburrito
It doesn’t matter because Kim Davis has succeeded in becoming the christian Kim Kardashian with her lawyer Mat Staver becoming Kris Jenner. Their goal is to keep her in the limelight until January when the Kentucky legislature meets again. Starve them of attention and their cause withers.
Robert Henninger
Do you know anyone who got picked up to visit the pope, I guess we didn’t brake the law
Atldeuce
At least the Pope got her to change that 70’s Fast food cashier hairdo.
Will Glitzern
Pope, meet Bitch. Bitch, meet Pope. Also, where are the pics of them together?
Mark Klein
Too many conflicting reports. What to believe.
Juan M Menendez
She’s a fucking lier do your job and shut that F
Billysees
The Catholic church is good at marketing their own religious and church propaganda. They rarely recognize or give credit to the righteous works and deeds found in the Protestant community.
I see an embarrassment for the CC here.
Could it be asked of Ms. Davis —
Why aren’t you still a Catholic like your mom?
Why did you leave the Catholic church?
Her answer could be —
My previous Catholic faith didn’t create in me a good enough person. Look at all of my failed marriages. I feel like I’m better off with my current beliefs.
Russell Mccullough
And I thought I could go one day without seeing this woman’s face. Silly me. Can we all just forget about her?
Captain Obvious
Keep making her famous and giving her opportunities…
Lisbeth Solis
Wow, you’re working for her now.
Brian
I particularly like that Kim Davis doesn’t wear make-up. Very few American women don’t wear make-up. In fact, they’re obsessed with lipstick, mascara, foundation, wrinkle-cream etc etc. Kim Davis has this independent streak which I like.
Realitycheck
Those pictures and statement prove absolutely nothing.
Anyone could have sent or rented the car, Davis is not seen with the pope,
and we all know the Pope has audiences with hundreds op people every day, they line up and get few seconds of time each, a rosary is given.
The real question, why would the Vatican lie about this? What to gain?
The pope has already stated his position marriage, and no surprise there.
Last, I suspect more people give Davis dirty looks at then support, when she walks at airports in NYC.
Several polls have shown the vast majority of americans, including christians
and republicans believe she should have done the job she is paid for.
Casey Këddington
Transiteer
So, who’s lying?? I bet Davis & Friends – they did fake a photo already eh. They live in lies and deceit. Good Christians. Showing us all what a waste of time and space this fictional religion really is.
silveroracle
Can we hit the OFF SWITCH on her now?!
Giancarlo85
@Brian: Of course you would like her being the self hater you are.
JPVG1085
I am an atheist. What the pope did or did not do is typical of organized religion, as has been cited previously it is based upon ‘lies and deceit’. Religion is responsible for at least as much misery as war.
Furthermore no one should ever have to read or hear about Davis again, EVER.
The entire series of incidents involving that woman is nonsensical.
Danke!
thomas prentice
CHARLES PIERCE OF ESQUIRE SPECULATED: “WAS POPE FRANCIS SWINDLED INTO MEETING WITH KIM DAVIS ?”
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a38440/pope-francis-swindled-kim-davis-meeting/
THEN :: VATICAN CONFIRMS THAT POPE FRANCIS WAS RATF*CKED INTO MEETING WITH KIM DAVIS
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/02/the_vatican_confirms_that_pope_francis_was_ratfcked_into_meeting_kim_davis/
Michael1500
I’m simply amazed at how obsessed Queerty is with Kim Davis. Who is authorizing this mindless coverage of her? I do believe if she dropped her pen and farted while bending over to pick it up, Queerty would be there to catch it on audio.
americangayatheist
The Vatican’s ambassador vin Washington, D.C. (a known homophobe and hate monger to the LGBT community) is the scumbag who arranged the meeting for Liberty Counsel’s poster child of bigotry, Kim Davis. The Pope was not in the loop according to the Vatican. I have no problem believing the ambassador sent a car for this low-life inbred hick and arrange all this crap. That does not imply that the pope is not still an institutional homophobe (he is – but not a personal one since he does have friends who are gay whom he appear to care about). I’m sure if the pope knew for sure who this bitch was he would have NOT met with her because he wanted to avoid controversy in his visit to the US. Also the Vatican said it was a meeting with many other people not a PRIVATE audience. Now, who is lying? LMFAO, considering the two sources, you’re guess is as good as mine!
1EqualityUSA
Michael1500 siad, “I do believe if she dropped her pen and farted while bending over to pick it up, Queerty would be there to catch it on audio.”
Yeah, and it would sound like a 1,000 angels singing, angels in unison, songs flying out of her, an Ode de Methane, noxious effluvium in C minor, a celestial awakening that cannot be blamed on the dog.
NJjoe
I can’t believe a word from either side. Check please!
NJjoe
@Michael1500:
I think we’re all a little obsessed because of all this shit coming from Kim Davis. One hateful clerk who was played brilliantly on SNL this past weekend. We won’t be talking about her much longer. She keeps herself in the media, we can’t help hearing her name and reminded of the bigoted woman who is most likely the worse Christian you could ever run into. She’s not even Catholic and she’s boasting by taking selfies at Vatican Embassy…I thought selfies were for 15 year old girls?
Billysees
@Realitycheck:
” Several polls have shown the vast majority of americans, including christians
and republicans believe she should have done the job she is paid for. ”
I’ve posted this previously and think it’s important to do it again —
I…must be obedient to…the Word of God, Davis once wrote.
Then why isn’t she obedient to Romans 13:1-5?
In [brackets] is why she went to jail.
1. Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.
2. So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and [they will be punished].
4. The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for [they have the power to punish you]. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.
5. So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.
I personally think that one’s conscience can trump scripture advice for any reason.
But how can that be if your going to say ‘I must be obedient to the Word of God’?.
tusgold
This may have been posted already, but did you know she got pregnant by her third husband while married to her first. See in Kentucky you can be a pic, sorry if I offended our four legged friends. on Saturday night, pick up a bible Sunday and run for elective office Monday
tusgold
I am a political consultant I usually do media buys and schedule the candidates events Congressmen, governors, state senators you get the drift OK
Kim Davis…oath buster she has never taken an oath she won’t break! Marriage vows Busted that oath in pieces Oath of Office Tore through that oath oath to uphold the Constitution Hell it’s they very bedrock our country was founded on I slam dunked that one
***Kim is taking request for new oaths she can brekl please e-mail them. Who Ya Gonna Call OATH Buster