Let the backlash begin.
Gov. Pat McCrory of North Carolina (pictured) just signed what many are calling the most antigay law of the century.
Yesterday, Republican lawmakers in North Carolina held a special session to pass HB2, a bill designed to terminate all LGBTQ nondiscrimination ordinances across the entire state, thus making it legal to discriminate against people based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
Related: Next State To Turn Away The Gays: North Carolina
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That’s right, folks. It is now perfectly legal in the state of North Carolina to fire someone, deny them housing, healthcare or employment, refuse them services, deny them access to public facilities, and on and on and on simply because they are LGBTQ. On top of that, any city that wants to adopt a nondiscrimination ordinance to protect its LGBTQ citizens is forbidden from doing so.
Lawmakers were given just five minutes to read the bill before beginning debate. It was then rushed through both chambers of the General Assembly and sent to the Governor’s desk, where he signed it the second it got there.
Related: North Carolina To Hold Special Legislative Session To Ban All LGBT Nondiscrimination Ordinances
In a statement, Gov. McCrory said he signed to bill to combat “government overreach.”
“The basic expectation of privacy in the most personal of settings, a restroom or locker room, for each gender was violated by government overreach and intrusion by the mayor and city council of Charlotte,” McCrory said, adding that nondiscrimination ordinances “defy common sense and basic community norms.”
McCrory concluded his statement by urging officials not to fight the new law but to instead “get back to working on the issues most important to our citizens.”
Related: N.C. Governor Warns Of Consequences If Charlotte Passes LGBTQ Rights Law
But LGBTQ rights group are already pushing back.
The Human Rights Campaign, American Civil Liberties Union and Equality North Carolina have begun organizing a rally to discuss how to combat the new law. Several companies that are based in the state, including Dow Chemical, Biogen and software giant Red Hat have also voiced their disapproval with the law.
It remains to be seen what will happen next, though we’re predicting it’s not gonna be pretty.
Victor Barry
The entire attack was made possible by the transgender bathroom issue again. Are these losses worth the bathroom/locker room drama?
Bao Quoc Truong
1 more added to the my list of states i wont move to
Christian Scott Thomas
The Carolinas…Texass….Bama….what do you expect???
Dave in Northridge
Romer v Evans, Part 2, here we come. All that remains to be seen is whether the first court that gets it stays this bill before the Supreme Court throws it out. Thanks for wasting taxpayer money, North Carolina.
1EqualityUSA
These laws backfire on them tenfold, firing up the youth, and changes come about that may have stayed dormant for another decade. How unfortunate for our LGBT family living among such antiquated, small-mindedness. Vote them out of office and become happier, healthier, more productive people.
Rick Dennis
Roy Cooper gets my vote in Nov.
Billy Budd
Is this legal? It can’t be legal in a free democratic country. How can it be? What happened to USA?
joeyty
Even the gays in N.C. are horrid, so….who cares ?
Mark Angstman
That won’t last long. The Supreme Court will null and void it.
1EqualityUSA
Billy Budd, you are so cute. I pictured you saying this with your shirt partially untucked, knees slightly bent, adorable bed-head hair, and torso twisting left to right.
Terrycloth
Major companies will leave the state in droves. It will hurt their economy badly.other states who want a similar bill must think twice
Ian Watson
SHAME ON NORTH CAROLINA SHAME ON
THE PEOPLE OF NORTH CAROLINA TO
SUBJECT THEM SELF’S TO EXTREMIST
IDEOLOGY BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEN TO IGNORANT TO ASK CERTAIN QUESTION’S
AND SEEN TO EASY TO MANIPULATE
BY THOSE RESPONSIBLE,
WE HAVE JUST CANCELLED OUR FAMILY HOLIDAY
TO NORTH CAROLINA OUR EXTENDED FAMILY HAVE DONE
THE SAME A PARTY OF 20 OF US WE’RE DUE TO GO
IN END OF MAY,
Tony Chaplinski
bigotry and hate are alive and well in North Carolina
Billy Budd
@1EqualityUSA: Thanks, I am very cute, opinionated, and extremely humble as you can see.
joeyty
@Tony Chaplinski: True. Remember Mike Nifong ? That was second most famous event ever to come out of that state, and nothing good happened there since the most famous….the Wright Brothers flight. And the Wright Bros were from Ohio.
joeyty
@Ian Watson: You should be ashamed that you’d had plans to go there anyway.
sweetbrandigirl2004
Hit em were it hurts in the wallets ! #BoycottNorthCarolina
Jesse Erickson
I kind of thought texas would blaze that trail. Good for them being better than that
GC1985
People this is what a Trump presidency would look like. These sorts of bills passed everywhere. Get out and vote. Our future is at stake. Don’t listen to the gay republican tools on here or the people who blame trans people. They were going to pass this bill either way.
This is the eptiome of what Trump and all Republicans want. People try to claim Trump isn’t as antigay as others, but they are wrong. Plus the economy will be severely damaged under Mr. Bankruptcy protection Conartist.
joeyty
@GC1985: Oh shush, Miss Colombia.
blackhawkdave
I believe that’s were Deliverance was filmed………
Mark Pointon
America should be ashamed…
joeyty
@blackhawkdave: No, “Deliverance” was filmed in Georgia. North Carolina is a bit more ghetto.
John Malin
BOYCOTT ALL THINGS NORTH CAROLINIAN! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH ANYONE WHO DOES BUSINESS IN THAT STATE.
Richard Weber Jr
Will someone tell Caitlyn Jenner that this is the kind of hateful stuff that Republican politicians do to LGBT people! They rushed this bill through the legislature and the governor signed it, in less than 24 hours. Who has ever heard of something happening so quickly? If this was not the product of malice, I don’t know what is.
Marshall R. Krug
talk about a political whore who will do ANYTHING to get elected and please his base. screw him AND his state !!!
Luis H. Lopez
It’s time for business like Dow Chemical to pull out of the state all homophobic bigots must be protested !
Giandorko86
@GC1985: how did trump have anything to do with it?
Glücklich
@joeyty:
You’ve got it in for poor NC. 🙂
And because it’s my prerogative to go off topic: Wright brothers’ house – and the neighborhood where it’s located in Dayton, OH (Oakwood) – is super super pretty. Gorgeous homes and very old-money.
joeyty
@Glücklich: I sure do ! (Maybe too much ?) Thanks for the info. on the Wright Brothers house, though. Never been there but sounds cool.
Giandorko86
Asheville is awesome
Juanjo
The simple fact is the wing religious fundamentalists are working hard to pass laws in every state they can to discriminate against gay people. Supported in their efforts by Republican politicos including unfortunately Trump.
Tracy Pope
I didn’t read this article. The title made me think it was for 14 year old children. Queerty, if you’re making an effort to emulate Buzzfeed you’re well on your way with titles that begin with “So”. (Of course I did read the articles about NC elsewhere).
Giandorko86
And Wilmington
Glücklich
Such a shame for NC. My somewhat limited experience of NC was anything but reflective of the attitude demonstrated by this new law.
My first job took me regularly to Winston-Salem, which is not a big cosmopolitan city and I never encountered anything other than the kindness and graciousness for which the South is known, even with two supposed strikes against me off the bat: being from California and being gay.
I was offered a chance to move back there but I couldn’t feature spending my twenties in semi-rural NC.
This latest development…nuh-uh. Not good. I’m certain it’s a short-lived mistake that’ll be corrected in the courts.
Jack Gearing
I hope the business community starts moving out of that state.
1EqualityUSA
North Carolina will now become the next gay enclave. Even Hurricanes will unapologetically be named “Bruce” year after year after year. Sporty names for districts will surface like, “NoCa” and “Charlo'” and “Cape Rainbow.” Housing prices will go up, high end grocery stores will replace shabby dollar stores, climbing gyms will flourish, and politicians will be hip. “Going to the Chapel” will take on a completely different meaning. Carol Lina, the first transgender Governor of the state, will be popular and bathrooms, plentiful. Now, carry on.
Scott Mellon
The south has risen again.
TampaBayTed
My response to this latest bat shit crazy legislation is: BOYCOTT the fuck out of those tarheels.
Giandorko86
@Glücklich: you should see what he said about ppl who live in San Francisco
Atomicrob
NC will quickly feel the full weight of the LGBT community and its network of supporters as they withdraw any financial support from this bigoted state. It’s just become a pariah thanks to this outrageous action. Buh bye, NC . . .youll never see me there.
kdavid
Forgive me for saying so but I am so glad that I am not American or living in that country. How cab a State pass such clearly nazi type laws and ge away with it? Surely there are federal laws which can be used to strike down State laws that are so obviously based on hate.? I see one of the people on here who made comments asked what it had to do with Trump – the answer is EVERYTHING. Trump is the current poster boy for the right wing foaming at the mouth hate filled monsters who seem to pervade American politics. Trump could never be taken seriously in a mature democracy based on true care and compassion. Seems to me that gays are the new Blacks as far as the right wing in America goes. They dare not pick on Black people any more so they choose the next soft target – us.
Jeff Franklin
No more Federal funding to North Carolina.
alanh1249
The sign in my new business in Charlotte will say:
WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO EVERYONE
EXCEPT BLACK GAYS AND THE DISABLED
(NORTH CAROLINA LAW)
Craig Graham
Conservative Christian (in this election year) is proving to be the new “white trash poorly educated inept of all things Jesusy” (with nice homes furnished by Big Lots). Sad, a beautiful state as NC is so invested in so much ugly. Then, again, I’m in GA (partner of 21 years died suddenly, so I decided I didn’t want to retire at our cabin in NC, I’d remain in home state) where Bill #757 (additional gay hate) is on the Governor’s desk awaiting his signature—even the entertainment industry has warned they’ll pull their $2 billion worth of revenue should he sign.
Ignorance is self-imposed and for some reason many in my race want it to be disease.
Will Glitzern
Only reason I’d go there is to see Biltmore. Now I’ll just look at pictures.
Christopher Roberts
Uhm….the state of TN did the same thing a few years ago after Nashville passed the same ordinance.
GC1985
@Giandorko86: His party… Little piss ant.
@joeyty: Nobody was talking to you, peanut. Notice how no one responds to your posts.
Daggerman
..there is so much beauty in America and people think ‘Gay’ people are ugly and spoil their country. But they forget it’s not just their country and who made them to be the judge on who’s ugly and who isn’t?? This is an inevitability, silly homophobic humans are wasting valuable time and making it difficult for ALL of us to evolve!! Stop and ditch your religion now!! And face the fact of nature….
Bill Boyd
AND HEADED STRAIGHT TO HELLLLLL.
Giandorko86
@GC1985: you having fun bully?
Brian JC Kneeland
BOYCOTT!!
davenbill
@Richard Weber Jr: Totally agree. If Jenner wants to be a woman so much, someone shove a tampon in that bitch’s mouth. The republican party would be the WORST thing for our LGBT and STRAIGHT nation as a whole. For anyone who considers themselves LGB or T and identify themselves as republican is asinine. Gay/straight, white/black, rich/poor etc etc, if you believe that all people deserve and should be treated equally and respectfully, get out and vote for the candidates that hold your same views; voice your opinions and view to those in power as well as your neighbor. We’ve come too far to be made second class citizens again. If federal laws/rulings grant these rights of equality then state and local can not take this away. Our nation was started and should continue to be based upon the principle that “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”
Blackceo
Ugh….and this is why I will NEVER move anywhere south of northern Virginia. Its like there’s an invisible force field that prevents me from going any further south than Farifax County. I just can’t. Being Blatino and gay??? No. Nope. I haven’t been anywhere in the south for years except for layovers at Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta and to Miami, the only part of Florida I can stand. This is just ridiculous. This is also what happens when you don’t turn out and vote in midterms, as well as the ramifications of redistricting which has allowed so many states to be taken over by Republicans and/or led by Republican legislatures.
dwes09
@Victor Barry: “The entire attack was made possible by the transgender bathroom issue again. Are these losses worth the bathroom/locker room drama?”
How is this any different from those who did not want Jews in their country club, blacks in their schools, or any other group that was different or made them feel uncomfortable? In all cases it is based on fiction and messed up notions of faith.
Allowing others to discriminate based on their unwillingness to extend compassion to those who are different, or on their willingness to believe falsehoods is a slippery slope. If we let the law discriminate against transgender people, the law will eventually discriminate against us again. This is not an issue of “drama” for those whose lives are affected. It is an issue of making backwards thinking people understand they do not have the option to enforce their ignorance. The courts will back us up, and what looks like two steps back will be two steps forward.
In many ways the struggle of transgender people is very different, but in others it is exactly the same.
Richard Lee Zweiben Klein
That’s why the Republican Party is so evil. What happened for liberty and justice persuit of happiness for all? Or is it for Liberty and Justice for some? ð??ºð??¸
joeyty
@Glücklich: The trouble is that I saw how badly North Carolina gay activists acted during the Duke lacrosse case. Can you imagine if a group of black men were (falsely-accused) of raping a white girl and gay activists had marched outside their house carrying “Castrate” signs, attempting to set the house on fire, and giving out the home addresses of each one of the falsely-accused (addresses where families, old folks, children, etc) lived ? And then gay N.C. icon Alan Gurganus writes an op ed for the NY Times about how of COURSE the boys at Duke are guilty of gang rape (no apologies; he hides from that article now). It was doubly creepy because he couldn’t hide his mixed attraction/hatred for Yankee lacrossse players, describing their “Abercrombie” appeal. If the races had been reversed, wouldn’t we still (and rightly so) be outraged ?
Glücklich
@Giandorko86:
I hear shit about SF all the time. Some of it we San Franciscans won’t argue.
Daniel-Reader
It is clear these genocidal politicians want to harm LGBT people and their families as much as possible. Under the legislation, however, it is legal to discriminate against the governor, the legislators, and their families in goods and services and employment based on sexual orientation and gender identity (no matter who they are). So whenever the governor, the legislators, or their families cross your path you may legally discriminate against them under the law signed by the governor. It is sad that everyone, including all government officials and their families, can now be discriminated against lawfully based on sexual orientation and gender identity. Being heterosexual provides no immunity.
joeyty
And then, three years later, gay Duke official Frank Lombard is actualy busted trying to sell one of his adopted black children online to others for sex. Mindboggling but true. And suddenly the gay activists fell silent, with no more screaming about racism and classism and sexual abuse that they shrieked all over re. the lacrosse case. .
Randy Bowling
They must be so proud, to be going in the wrong direction. Just because your called the south doesn’t mean you need to be headed in that direction……..
joeyty
@Glücklich: “I hear shit about SF all the time. Some of it we San Franciscans won’t argue”
You’re no dope.
Stached1
@Victor Barry: Exactly this is why the T needs to go from LGB, and even trans people agree that T issues should be completely separate from those of LGB people.
Michael Cumming
Add NC to the list of states to avoid. Money talks…loud!
Stached1
@joeyty: That’s sick.
robho3
Ahhhh the south… Remind me why did we not want them to secede from the union?
1EqualityUSA
Leave no single one behind on the battlefield. We’ll feel better about ourselves when we attain our full rights despite these minor setbacks. In fact, these setbacks eventually turn around and bite bigots in the end. It has been “LGBT” for so long now that even if you did do a T-ectomy, many would still refer to it the old way, before the pant-shitter-fear-biters advocated for the LGBT to turn on each other. We are one block, hated by many. That will never change.
Liam
@Billy Budd: I was eaten alive by the Right Wing.Welcome to the days of “states rights” where there are 50 nations where the USA used to be.
Liam
@Liam: “i” shoujld be “It”.
Liam
@TampaBayTed: And move the f*ck away. I left SC 40 years ago, improved my life 1000%, and never went back.
J.r. Graff
I want to see corporations leaving left & right!!!!!
Guy068
It’s not just us. Read a mainstream site and the wording of this bill allows racism, misogyny, and attacks on non-preferred religions to occur because no one is allowed to claim discrimination or bias. Every group affected needs to wake up and exercise its economic and political clout to undo this in a show of unity that will make the politically strong (but demographically small) hateful Christian Whites’ heads spin!
drivendervish
It’s abundantly clear that Governor Mc Crory has no political ambitions beyond his current position and that he is comfortable with having the entire state of North Carolina becoming a pariah state that no one visits or does business with. His comment that government should get back to important issues only reveals his incompetence. I will enjoy watching NC wither on the vine and either recall their governor or replace him in the next election with a politician with an IQ above 70.
1EqualityUSA
This is Pat McCrory doing it up right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qXY4BrG-I
GG
The next steps are obvious:
1) A gay NC business owner legally fires one or more employees for being heterosexual.
2) Sit back and watch the wretched retch.
3) Win in court.
CWM85
Appalling and sickening. A boycott needs to be in place immediately!
Chuck
This might take some time, but I am a firm believer in KARMA. When KARMA comes back to bite all of them in the ass. They won’t have that big smile on there faces anymore. Then there going to turn around and blame all of this on Obama.
All of these bills that different states are passing. It will definitely have a trickle down effect. Higher unemployment, companies moving out, less tax revenues, and the list goes on.
A similar bill just passed in Kentucky. It’s sad because I use to enjoy going to Kentucky. Not anymore. Now if I buy anything online, I’ll have to research the company to make sure they are not located in any of these states.
DavidThomasCurran
Total farce! Politicians involved probably don’t give a toss one way or another, pandering to the stupid for votes. Eventually will be struck down by SCOTUS (as they well know) while the taxpayer foots the bill for another fisco!
1EqualityUSA
You would think that McCrory would have other worries besides bathrooms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpubEd5gI9w
Glücklich
@Chuck:
The first thing I’m doing is ridding my apartment of all Kentucky bourbon. Just have to stock up on vermouth and bitters.
1EqualityUSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXodLl64OPo
1EqualityUSA
Glucklich, Even your Stagg aged 17 years 134.4 proof unfiltered Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey priced at $55/bottle? It’s really different….peppery….at Tower Mollie’s….limit one per customer…unless you’re gay of course.
Antony Nguyen
Nc its time to remove your idiot governor, the hate law does beat local but federal law beats state law plus who has time and money to go back and forth.
joeyty
@Stached1: It was definitely sick. And showed what hypocrites gays in North Carolina are. But to be fair a lot of NYC gays (from Andy Humm to Andrew Towle) jumped in with the lynchmob, too, but hid from Lombard committing what was pretty much a return to the slave trade.
queerbec
Have any film or television companies pulled out of North Carolina yet? Pressure should be put on them to do so like is happening in Georgia. Also perhaps it is time to start noticing where the furniture and accessories we buy are manufactured and boycott all such businesses, and maybe even boycott all businesses that continue to do business in the state. It is a CHOICE to do business there after all and all adults should be aware of the consequences of their choices.
joeyty
@Chuck: “This might take some time, but I am a firm believer in KARMA. When KARMA comes back to bite all of them in the ass. They won’t have that big smile on there faces anymore.” Maybe THIS is the Karma, or the overdue Karma will be destroying every gay-owned business in that state along with everything else.
Daniel-Reader
Important to remind LGBT youth in North Carolina that their lives matter. And that politicians who fail to protect human rights are accountable.
GG
So much for the “get government out of our lives” crowd.
Kangol
This should be in the article’s headline and again at the top of the article: REPUBLICANS IN NORTH CAROLINA DID THIS TO LGBTQ PEOPLE. THE GOP!
And they stripped away all anti-discrimination laws to be even more hateful. The Republican Party. This is what they do. When will the LGBTQ who blindly follow and suck up to them wake up?
THIS IS NOT CONSERVATISM, IT’S HATE!
Minyassa
On the behalf of North Carolinians who have been voting to try to root out this bullshit for years and are just plain outnumbered, I DEEPLY apologize for my state. I am profoundly embarrassed that the place where I live has anything to do with this crap. It’s disgusting and reprehensible and there is no excuse for it. Some of us are expecting the next bill to make the white robes and hood the official state costume. Only thing that we can do besides continue to try to vote these jackasses out is what Daniel mentioned, remind LGBT youth that their lives matter, and keep trying to teach these mouth-breathing conservatives how to be human. Please wish us luck, some of us are really struggling against the current here.
joeyty
@Minyassa: You already donned the white robes and hoods when you elected Mike Nifong as DA and tried to lynch the Duke lacrosse guys.
1EqualityUSA
Minyassa, Hang in there and vote for Democrats. We’ll turn this around. Sorry you’ve got the blues. That’s how I felt when Prop H8 passed in California, on the very day Obama was elected. We turned it around. These things fire up the youths.
1EqualityUSA
joeyty, don’t rub salt in the wounds of one who obviously is dismayed by political life in the state as it is. c’mon, now. Be cool.
joeyty
@1EqualityUSA: Okay. But…sorry, I can’t help but see this as the wheels of justie finally hitting a state that has long deserved it.
joeyty
@joeyty: “justice”
1EqualityUSA
Minyassa lives there and change doesn’t come easy. What a total drag.
joeyty
@1EqualityUSA: Minyassa could have been one of the lynchmob threatening to set houses on fire for all I know. Or threatening to kill their family’s pets. (But, granted, I don’t know Minyassa).
1EqualityUSA
mmm.
Daniel-Reader
Another option is to end the rule of law until politicians who have committed genocide are put on trial.
1EqualityUSA
I’ve been dorking around all day on the computer. What a total fuck I am. I must get moving. Even my dogs are lazy today. Have a good one, all.
1EqualityUSA
Daniel-Reader, you make it hard for me to break away. I like your input.
joeyty
@Daniel-Reader: Nifong DID lose his job. But only did one token day in jail. (Those accused guys would still be in prison if N.C. gay activists had had their way).
joeyty
@1EqualityUSA: If you have dogs you shouldn’t be defending anything about N.C. That’s basically the Michael Vick dogfighting capital of the country. The most busts for it, anyway, and hopefully nearing an end. And the Durham NC gays actually defended the dogfights, too, mumbling something about “cultural differences.” As opposed to the falsely-accused whose families were huge ASPCA supporters and had to pull their support because they didn’t know how much they’d need for defense (at least the ones here in Long Island). I’ll try to stop now so as not to hog the thread, but I don’t see that there’s anything about that state that’s worthy of defense in any way, no matter what the sexuality.
Glücklich
@1EqualityUSA:
Shiiiit…I’m trash at heart. Jim Beam, Knob Creek, Jack, and Maker’s are just fiiiine by me. S’what I keep in the house, anyway. I pride myself on being a cheap date.
Robb Grove
Time to boycott N. Carolina
AnneMarie McNeil Rancourt
This is what happens when you let a bunch of banjo pickin inbreds in charge! Shame on you the ” new south”
Nathan Hemperley
William Earnshaw Jr. This is what I was talking about
queenrosered
@Billy Budd: Of course it’s “legal”…States rights, yada yada..You know…that thing right-wingers are always yammering on about UNTIL they NEED the help of the Feds, then they whine like the tiny p*ssy b*tches they are and plead for FEMA or whomever to HELP!
But being LEGAL doesn’t make it moral, as we know. I want to hear Hillary Clinton’s response to this atrocity. Though it took a while for her eyes to open re: same sex marriage, they DID open and she’s always been big on human rights issues. Obviously, this is going to have WIDE repercussions for the LGBT community but even worse for the GOP (as IF things could get worse, lol)
Hang in there NC peeps. As my folks always said, “One monkey don’t stop no show”
1EqualityUSA
Oh, no, Glücklich! Just try the Stagg Jr, 9 years aged, distilled, 64.85% ABV (129.7 proof.) You’ll never go back. I don’t drink, preferring to live vicariously through others. I teaspoon taste and study California Cabernets & Pinot Noirs, but this bourbon whiskey is very special. Neat or with a splash of water. Toffee, peppery, smoky, amazing spirit that will have your taste buds standing up and yelling, “whoopee.” Sorry to say, you’ve been assigned homework.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx7unZ7enYg&list=PLptypuF71uBQvPclhK-TgSyxw_-5auvJP
Glücklich
@1EqualityUSA:
That’s my kind of assignment. Good thing the office is closed tomorrow for Good Friday.
dean089
I guess I’ll have to plan a trip to North Carolina just so I can cancel it. Or maybe I’ll just continue having no interest in going to North Carolina.
Glücklich
Those boycotting NC go in good health but if you want to speak with your wallet, close all of your BofA accounts as they’re HQ’ed in Charlotte.
Those investing with Wells Fargo as their FA’s (why?), yank that, as the bulk of the Wells advisor/retail investor operation is a legacy group from Wachovia and still run from Charlotte.
Part of Wells’ IB ops are also Wachovia legacy but unless you’re planning a big huge M&A deal or issuing bonds you needn’t be concerned.
joeyty
@AnneMarie McNeil Rancourt: I think N.C. is more gangsta than hillbilly.
joeyty
@Glücklich: You know I hate N.C. (including the gays there) but…you’re right as far as that goes. All this blustery talk about boycotting that state is kind of clownish for a whole slew of reasons.
Jesse Blodgett
North Carolina, you suck!
Glücklich
@joeyty:
I have a soft spot for NC and many parts of the South because I cut my career teeth at a DEEPLY southern company and work is everything to me. I was treated extremely well by the company and its people, given HUGE opportunities despite my “strikes.” I wouldn’t be where I am today without that experience. I mean, I was seriously just a *baby* then so I’m more…objective? magnanimous? sentimental? about NC and the South in general.
Trust me, I don’t give pass to fucked up shit like this but fucked up shit happens everywhere.
Isaac Littleton
Vote McCrory and those asinine Republican legislators out of office
GC1985
I thought in 2008 the state was making progress when it went to Obama. But it flipped in 2012 and regressed heavily. Again, my point about Trump and Republicans stands strong. North Carolina is an example of what will happen nationally if you gay republican tools have your way.
girldownunder
I guess this means that NC doesn’t intend to collect any taxes from any self-proclaimed LGBTI citizens, right? No representation, deliberate repeal of equal rights, no reason to expect tax monies.
joeyty
@Glücklich: I understand. I don’t have any problems with the south in general (I like Charleston; Savannah; LOVE New Orleans) but my experiences with North Carolina convinced me it’s a state of contemptible anti-white r a c i s t s and their gay co-conspirators. But I’ll take into account that you report good experiences there and….that has merit. I’ll admit I didn’t meet every single person in N.C. ! Also, the Queerty-posting types who don’t know anything like to pretend they’re superior to southerners (one of the Gay rules), so we get all the tired “inbreed” “hilbilly” jokes (which shows they REALLY don’t know N.C.) and boycott talk (when they weren’t going to visit there anyway). And if they are going to boycott over THIS and didn’t boycott over the more serious crimes out of N.C. to begin with….there’s something wrong with their values.
martinbakman
@Christian Scott Thomas: ….Indiana
joeyty
@martinbakman: Colorado in 1992
BriBri
@Victor Barry: The whole thing with bathrooms and locker rooms…..I don’t know.
Mary C Scohera
boycott
rbernard
Boycotts are feared and can be very effective in in poor southern states.
The “hairy men wearing dresses in the girls bathroom meme” sounds like something the odious Tony Perkins (FRC) had his fingerprints on .
I say ask all of our friends and equality supportive businesses to boycott the state till this law is rescinded.
joeyty
@rbernard: They won’t care. I don’t think N.C.is especially poor either.
joeyty
@Mary C Scohera: Boycott….what ? Nobody smokes anymore.
Sluggo2007
Who cares? It’s North Carolina for God’s sake!
Daniel-Reader
I’m pretty certain politicians who want you to uphold laws wouldn’t use laws to harm people. Clearly, the politicians don’t care if any laws are upheld by the people they harm.
Bob LaBlah
Wow! I always suspected “some one” had an alias and they forgot about that before they hit post comment. I was right all along.
Glücklich
@joeyty:
Oh you and I will get along just fine.
I’ve got my flaws. I do the hillbilly schtick for AL, AR, WV though I’ve never been to any. I stick up for TX and GA, too, in the same NC way – they’re not all “like that.”
My husband’s from rural TN so there’s that, too.
judysdad
Well, the trans people, the vast majority of whom aren’t even gay-identified or want anything to do with the gay community at large, have stirred up a hornet’s nest which has given the right wing another opportunity to go after the 99% of us who ARE gay or lesbian. We had enough problems as it was without this trans shit.
Peter Gay
SOFTIES
1EqualityUSA
judysdad, I hear you, though the “T” is forever welded to us and we may as well be strong enough and magnanimous enough to carry the “T.” We won’t regret it, when all is said and done. Giving flesh too much credence would be my only turn-off, but what a beautiful distraction from psychological pain, to focus on molecules and atoms obsessively. For the spirits, I feel that including them is worthwhile. We just need to understand why we resent them and know why it is frustrating for us to be lumped in with those, so different. If I focus on the spirit behind the shell, it is easier to embrace them. They are our brothers and sisters. They are hated and misunderstood. We will never lose them, as they will be shiny pearls around our necks, socially and politically until the end of time. Daring to be different, in truest authenticity, in a society that gravitates to comfortable norms, is heroic. We would be foolish to slam the door on those willing to live authentic lives under duress.
Kangol
@joeyty: Your r@cist, anti-gay comments aren’t fooling anyone. Not all of the South is bad, but Southern Republicans are declaring war on LGBTQ people, and this war is another sign of this.
Why not take ownership of the fact that you support the anti-gay GOP, which just stripped ALL LGBTQ people of hard-earned rights, as well as other civil rights measures that African Americans fought for centuries to gain? You seem to think that all of this is OK because of that mistaken Duke rape case, which affected a handful of rich straight white boys, all of whom are doing just fine today? Give us a break!
And by the way, North Carolina’s demographics are: 70% White American, 21.3% African American, 1.2% American Indian, and 6.5% are Hispanic or Latino (of any race). It historically was mostly rural, so what the h3ll is “gangsta” supposed to mean? White, allegedly Christian Republican legislators passed this law, and the white, allegedly Christian Republican governor signed it. That’s who you support. They hate gays, which presumably includes you.
Stuart Falk
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8c36175bbc/north-carolina-s-anti-gay-tourism-commercial?_cc=__d___&_ccid=58a81df5409509aa
Daniel-Reader
All North Carolina residents lost. The corrupt politicians inserted language into the law that says you cannot use state courts anymore for claims of employment discrimination based on race, religion, gender, et al. You have to use federal courts which have few resources in North Carolina and a shorter window to file claims. So this “bathroom” bill was just a disguise distraction to act the human rights of black people, jews, women, asian people, latino people, and disabled people as well.
GC1985
@Kangol: North Carolina as I said was seemingly making progress in 2008 and was starting to move in the right direction, and then they turn around and elect fools. Same thing applies here as in Indiana. They majority of the state elected fools and now deserve to pay the price. I can’t wait to see majority of businesses start to pack their bags.
GC1985
@judysdad: Shut your damn mouth. You don’t get to decide who is part of the community or not. I am tired of people like you spewing your venom for trans people and playing the blame game. Closeted self hating bigots often project hatred towards others. Many trans people are in fact gay and bi. It is funny some show the same hatred towards trans people that religious fundamentalists show towards gay people.
You simply adopted your own form of bigotry because you think you are better than them. Like Trump you need to hate someone.
joeyty
@Kangol: Sorry, but a gay Duke official, Frank Lombard, adopted black children and then tried to sell one boy online to child molesters That’s slavery and you can’t hide away from that one.
joeyty
@Glücklich: Oh no…your rural TN husband must have to hear their tired mockery all the time. The nasty mockery (not the affectionate mockery I’m sure he gets from you). But what would the gay world be without it’s stock types searching for someone to feel superior to.
joeyty
@Kangol: “You seem to think that all of this is OK because of that mistaken Duke rape case, which affected a handful of rich straight white boys, all of whom are doing just fine today?” Yes. The falsely-accused would still be in prison if NC gays had their way. Just because of their ethnic backgronds. So if the only punishment for the lynchmob NC gays is that they have to carefully choose bathrooms….they’re getting off easy. (BTW : It didn’t only affect a handful of rich straight white boys. It affected their families and everybody who benefits from the ccharities their families support. Do you want to hear a list of the direct harm that was caused by that lynchmob ?)
Chris Lines
When your state is more phobic and bigoted than Texas, you have reached a whole new level of despicable.
surreal33
People bitch and moan about states such as North Carolina and Florida yet continue visit and spend money in the hate states. Blacks, gays, etc. should never set foot in Florida or North Carolina. Problem is blacks and gays still give money to there oppressors. Hate states we never change because it is the right thing do. Hate states will only change when it costs too much money to support hate and intolerance. If blacks, gays, boycott companies based in Florida and North Carolina, stop traveling to Florida and North Carolina, things will change. Money changes everything take it away states will do whatever it takes to win it back ask Arizona.