You may remember that our most recent Douche of the Week, New Jersey teacher Viki Knox filled a 36-page Facebook comment thread about her high school’s LGBT History Month display with long-winded rants calling homosexuality a sinful cancer, gay parenting an unnatural immoral behavior, and comparing LGBT History Month to teaching young kids how to masturbate and become hookers. Well she doesn’t have much to say now that she’s suspended from teaching and under investigation.
Mrs. Know It All kept quiet during her exclusive interview with CBS News because her school advised her to STFU (good idea). However, her husband spoke on her behalf and provided one new piece of information: while she doesn’t take back anything she said, she might rethink ever posting it on Facebook again.
Teaching the teacher??! That’s progress!
The school held a hearing recently with parents, activists, and students to decide Mrs. Knox’s fate, but her future remains uncertain. We’d start praying if we were you, Mrs. Cancer.
You notice how the National Organization for Marriage hasn’t made Mrs. Knox their latest victim yet? Is it possible that there are some people too crazy for NOM to promote? Seems hard to believe seeing as they support a rabbi who thinks gay marriage causes earthquakes and murdered children.
Stephen
She’s not really sorry. She is just worried about her job.
christopher di spirito
Heffa should’ve kept her mouth shut.
Ron
the debate is raging over at nj.com – and most of the comments seem to be in her favor
tookietookie
She’s clearly deranged, and obviously not sorry at all.
The world is a scary place.
Mark
She’s becoming a martyr. Whether or not LGBT people like it, millions of people share her opinion because they were taught the same beliefs in their churches. Look at the Catholic Church and Mormon Church. They invested time and energy to pass Prop 8.
As long as this woman didn’t discriminate against anyone at her place of work, why should she be suspended? Where does her right to free speech and religious expression end?
tookietookie
A lot of what tries to pass for “free speech” about homosexuality incites violence and is actually hate speech. She is demonizing and scapegoating gay people, not discussing them in a civil manner. Whether that seems like permissible speech or not to you, I for one am the kind of person who does not want a frothy lunatic like this around innocent children.
Religious expression doesn’t get a complete pass under the Constitution, btw.
John
Shes got the lord jesus on her side, yo!
Cam
“””while she doesn’t take back anything she said, she might rethink ever posting it on Facebook again.”””
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Thats why the people who say “Oh gee, we shouldn’t be doing anything but trying to win the hearts and minds of people” are so far offbase.
You will NEVER convince this woman, HOWEVER, the law can at least stop here from attacking and harassing her students AND keep other students in her class from thinking it is acceptable to bully gay kids.
David Ehrenstein
When you’re gay and black (like I am) you find people like this in your own family.
http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2011/10/19/my-facebook-for-the-world-to-see/
Riker
@Mark: They should be discriminated against because we need to protect our children. Their own kids aren’t falling for this crap, so they need to recruit ours. I wouldn’t want my children anywhere near this predator, who (like a disproportionate number of Christians) probably engages in acts of sexual depravity, including bestiality and pædophilia.
Mark
@David Ehrenstein:
If you’re gay and white or Asian or Latino or Catholic or Mormon, you also find religious people like this in your family, too!
This is about religion. Mainline Christianity teaches that homosexuality is a sin. The Catholic Church and Mormon Church have been documented as working together to pass Prop 8. The Catholic Church is pushing the MN anti-gay marriage amendment. In Illinois, the Catholic Church fired most of its adoption employees as it shutdown its adoption services to avoid placing orphans into gay homes.
People have a right to their religious beliefs. We have a right to ensure that they don’t impose them on us.
Frankly, given the legacy of horrific abuse by some of these religious institutions, it’s amazing people trust them. The people of Spain have rightly pushed aside their Church which happily collaborated with the dictator Franco. (It’s now also been revealed that the Spanish Catholic Church helped to steal 300K children from political dissidents and unwed mothers!) Ireland has woken up to see the Church’s vile cover up of the rape of thousands of children.
Mark
She is not sorry, she is sorry she got caught.
I agree she should have free speech and all BUT as a person in her position she should not made her negative beliefs be made public because it encourages gay bullying. She should know better.
the crustybastard
@Mark: Where does her right to free speech and religious expression end?
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes said, “The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins.”
Hope that clears it up for you.
Joetx
Has anyone read her Facebook rant? Her grammar & spelling is atrocious. From that fact alone, she isn’t fit to teach kids.
If a teacher put racist rants on Facebook, would it be ok to still allow him/her to teach kids?
Pete n SFO
I especially liked when her husband suggested that if people really knew Vicki, that they would never direct such hatred at her.
LOL…
That’s rich, isn’t it? Helloooo, Vicki, irony much?
What makes it worse, is that by her own admission, she calls gay people her friends, and still seems completely unaware of her own bullshiz.
Dumber than a rock, really gives rocks a bad name.
Mark
@the crustybastard:
But she was just having a discussion, right? How many people have sat around and had discussions about controversial topics? She had her discussion online. I think that she’s ignorant but as long as she’s not preaching this at school or discriminating against students or staff, why should she have a right to her opinion?
Making a martyr out of her won’t do anything. Isn’t there a better tactic for engaging someone like this than to demonize her and affect her employment?
The reality is that her views are held by a large percentage of Americans. We can pretend otherwise, but it’s true. People like her see this woman being attacked for being a “Christian.”
JAW
Even anti-gay Governor Chris Christi was not happy with her… He is the darling of the republicans and teabaggers… perhaps there is hope…
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Dave
Yet another example of a vile subhuman bigoted piece of shit trying to claim victim status. I wish that Viki Knox could spend one single day living the experience of a bullied, depressed LGBT kid whose cruel life experience has led her to wish with all her might that she was anything other than who she is–that she was somehow “normal” so that her suffering would go away.
But Viki Knox will never know what that’s like–and obviously she doesn’t give a fuck if kids suffer because of her actions. And that’s why I say with powerful conviction that while I am opposed to violence, if there was any justice in the world Viki Knox would lose a whole lot more than her precious job as a teacher of bigotry. Personally, I’d love the opportunity to spit in her face; I’d only refrain from doing so if she was on fire for fear extinguishing the flames.
Pep, Italy
@ No. 11
“Mainline” North American churches teach this .. as does the Catholic Church.
Despite opposition from an important number of small splinter sects a growing majority of Northern European state and semi-official churches (in particular the Lutheran, Anglican and Dutch Reformed to name but a few) accept LGBT people as being equal members of the congregation, as have done so for some time.
True Christians are not bigoted.
I love the US but so many of the church leaders are just so wacko – and dangerous!
Matt F
It seems like the same bible she espouses from kept her race in slavery for hundreds of years. Go figure! If being “gay” is a big grave sin, why wasn’t it listed as a “Top 10” in the Commandments always puzzled me. Also, Jesus never said one word against gay people.
the crustybastard
@Mark:
Ms Knox is in the business of ideas. She is paid for the product of her intellect. Her employer is the public school district, a subdivision of the state of New Jersey. The state bears an obligation to treat all the people of New Jersey fairly and equitably, without subjecting them to religious harangues &c.
Public sector employment comes with certain benefits as well as certain restrictions. In Ms Knox’s classroom, she is the agent of the state. Any ideas Ms Knox publishes or broadcasts reflect on her professional capacity as an agent of the state.
When Ms Knox publishes her ideas that are loaded with religiously motivated animus toward a discrete and identifiable minority, that’s a problem in the same way a state prosecutor doesn’t deserve a pass for making blog postings about how black people are naturally inclined toward violence and criminality or some such shit.
If Ms Knox confined her religiously motivated discrimination to private discussions in her home or church, no foul. If Ms Knox was a custodian or lunch lady, again, no foul. If Ms Knox had published her thoughts anonymously to distance or avoid associating her prejudice with her government employer, again, no foul.
But that’s not what happened.
ewe
I went to that meeting. Standing near was a feelbe older man that mustered the word “gODD” to himself over and over whenever he felt he needed to defend putting down LGBT people. Cuckoo. Crazy fucking nutjobs. They need to stay out of our public schools. Religion is the deterioration of knowledge and she cannot be allowed to get paid to spew her ignorant hatred.
ewe
@JAW: Christie is all over network television using religion as his excuse to deny LGBT adults the equality he enjoys and can access repeatedly. There must be a liability issue here for him to have said what he said.
the crustybastard
The question that should be asked in Ms Knox’s investigation is whether any LGBT student, or child of an LGBT parent could reasonably expect to be treated fairly by this teacher.
This is a critical issue because Ms Knox is in a position to judge students in ways that have long-term consequences.
Since Ms Knox has demonstrated herself to be unrepentantly prejudiced, suspension is not an adequate remedy. She ought to be terminated.
ewe
@the crustybastard: True and she is currently collecting a salary while suspended so i hope they speed up the process of terminating her. There is also the issue of LGBT employees within the public school system. If i had to work with her i would consider getting an attorney to file a harassment charge against the school for keeping an employee on that has proven to be detrimental to workplace expectations.
ewe
When the only groups defending her are right wing christian organizations then we know there must be a separation of church and state as the only remedy. The Alliance Defense Fund is the enemy of LGBT people.
ewe
After the Alliance Defense fund attorney basically threatened the school board with the cost of litigation if they fired Viki Knox, she looked up from her paperhead like George Bush used to look up after reading a speech he did not write. She had the deer in the headlights look that asked “did anyone happen to buy that load of shit lock stock and barrel?” It was interesting to see so many christians were bowing their heads in shame when they left the school compared to the LGBT advocates who held their heads up high. I find it sad that the religious African American groups are rallying around her because the longer everyone sat and listened all the speakers the more this “gODD for one gODD for all” cliche lost its umph.
Hyhybt
At least her nonsense isn’t likely to fool anyone. It’s simply too unbelievable. I mean, really: who ever heard of someone having to be taught to masturbate?
Michael
Psycho bitch CHRISTIAN women like her make me physically ill.Especially considering anti gay religious bigoted hypocrites like this one seem to keep forgetting how subserviant women are supposed to be … well that is based on what her precious holy bible says. Women are supposed to be subserviant to their husbands women are supposed to be silent in the church basically they are supposed to be seen not heard.At least she kept to her precious bible and its misogynistic views on women… in that video way to go hubby im guessing when the video ended she kissed her husbands feet and was at his command every second.
ewe
Their emotional toxicity is only burdened with the toxic food they are both taking in as well. The body is not meant to be that round. gODD told me so on the phone last night and came over today. We had lunch at Whole Foods. I had to pay the bill. Typical.
Michael
@ewe:
Dumbass doesn’t realize that GLUTTONY is ALSO a sin.
ewe
I wonder what all the fools that say they support her have to do to justify their hatred. What a horrible way to behave. And then use gODD as a shield. Their pathetic.
ewe
They are too selfish to realize how much she has hurt the well being of all children. These people are a disgrace. Instead of acting like good people of faith they put everybody in their community and beyond on the hot seat when all she really has to do is grow the fuck up herself.
ewe
@Michael
Yes what do I know. I’m just an old bitter fort with a flat ass.
Michael
@ewe:
WTF? LMAO
Shannon1981
She is a teacher who undoubtedly teaches gay kids. Any one of us could have had to have been in her classroom. Would you want to be in a classroom with a teacher who hates you? I know I wouldn’t. She’s a bigot. The public school system is an arm of the government, where her religious beliefs do not belong. By referencing the bulletin board, she tied school to her religion. That breaks the law.
Schlukitz
@the crustybastard:
One of my fave expressions, Crusty. LOL
Jennifer Shoopman
Her husband stated everyone has an opinion … well, we all know what everyone else has as well, now don’t we. Ask yourself Mrs. Cancer … do you have the right to judge? “Judge NOT lest ye be judged” If homosexuality is wrong then it will be judged by someone with much more authority than you, Miss Lady! You are the cancer in our society that only produces more haters and more violence. Let people live their lives as they will as long as they are not harming anyone else. You are a black woman … I would think you would understand more than most the struggle to be free in this world. We, as gay men and women, are being just as discriminated against as black people were. Was that right then … NO. Neither is your persecution of the gay/lesbian lifestyle. Jesus loves us all … I wonder who I will see in Heaven … might not be you!
Jennifer Shoopman
Her husband stated everyone has an opinion … well, we all know what everyone else has as well, now don’t we. Ask yourself Mrs. Cancer … do you have the right to judge? “Judge NOT lest ye be judged”. If homosexuality is wrong then it will be judged by someone with much more authority than you, Miss Lady! You are the cancer in our society that only produces more haters and more violence. Let people live their lives as they will as long as they are not harming anyone else. You are a black woman … I would think you would understand more than most the struggle to be free in this world. We, as gay men and women, are being just as discriminated against as black people were. Was that right then … NO. Neither is your persecution of the gay/lesbian lifestyle. Jesus loves us all … I wonder who I will see in Heaven … might not be you!
Get a life Viki knox
all i got to say to Viki Knox is;
first off….. you way too old to be posting Stupid [email protected]#$ on Facebook!
How old you say you is?…. 49?
Lady get a life, my 4 year old sister has more brains
Adam
Based on the way her school district apparently assigns email addresses, hers would be [email protected]. Don’t harass her or anything, but feel free to drop her a line and let her know what you thought about her fb statements.